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Subaru Impreza WRX
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Sporin-Don't tell me your one of those people who wonders if published invoice prices are the real thing. Invoice is invoice!
LOL! Nope, I agree with you, I was being facecious. :-)
bedabi: good luck. Hope that dealer doesn't change his tune.
I have a WRX brochure at home. Anyone got one handy now? If not I'll check it tonight.
-juice
PS: I usually have the brochure w/me at work, how sick is that?? :-)
Stephen
hell yeah!
The only thing Im upset about is the LSD... I can have some foglights installed easy and cheap
My parents never had a manual drive car either. I actually learned when I got a motorcycle during grad school. I taught myself how to gear on that, and then transferred the same principle to cars. At the age of 30, I got my first manual car, a 1999 Maxima, since it seemed such a shame to mate that great engine with an automatic. You should find a way to learn, I think you'd really like it, and it truly accentuates your daily driving experience.
Sorry you've had trouble in Texas. Sounds like some people are doing a little better, some worse than I did.
I don't claim to be a master negotiator. I just basically split the difference between what I figured "invoice" would be and sticker. Told the salesman I was trying to avoid the typical back and forth and haggling and wanted us both to feel good about the deal. He only went to the "sales manager" twice. After the second huddle we had a deal.
I'm a little nervous after reading one of the postings regarding the legality or enforceability of these advance orders. For example, what happens if my WRX comes in and the owner's kid decides he likes it? Or someone offers more than the $23K I agreed to? Am I S.O.L.? I did give them a $500 check which they intend to cash.
If it helps those of you who don't live near reasonable dealers, the guy who runs www.subaru.net works for a dealership in Minnetonka, MN, and if I remember correctly he claimed that he could take out of state orders. I never pursued this but it might be worth a try (with him or one of the others mentioned here).
Finally, whatever you end up paying, my guess is you will be glad you bought when you did. Chances are the price of the WRX will only go up. The automotive press was guesstimating $26K or more before SOA set official MSRP.
Steve: I don't have the LSD either, but the AWD still works like a charm. Even in a 10" snow storm, I was plowing through. Also, viscous LSDs are set up for snow, not for the track, so you're not missing out on much if that's what you wanted.
One article on the WRX had prices estimated at a whopping $28 grand!
-juice
After reading reviews before MSRP was announced, and calculating by my own unscientific methods what the price would be, I became absolutely excited that the MSRP is 24K. I would pay 24K and walk away a happy person. But that's not to say that I wouldn't like to save a grand.
All I have to back up what I'm paying for my pre-ordered sedan is some emails and casual phone calls with my dealer. I must have sort of assumed that I'd pay MSRP. Would it be a good idea to contact the dealer, pay them a visit, and suggest a price that is plausibly between Invoice & MSRP? Or at least get SOMETHING in writing?? My dealer's been very helpful and straightforward so far, but I have nothing in writing and not even a receipt for my deposit. Course, if things go sour - I will need to "pre-order" somewhere else and wait longer (and waiting for the WRX has been more excruciating than I expected).
auto dimming mirror
security system upgrade
wheel locks
air filtrations system
armrest extention
premium speakers and subwoofer
In total these add about 1K to the MSRP
What do ya'll think???
Basically, unless you have an agreement in writing and there has been money exchanged, you can't expect a court to enforce it. But remember, this also means a dealership can't enforce it against you! So really, unless you have a price set and ready to be agreed on, it's not a good idea to put anything in writing, IMHO.
I do know that most sales contracts have a space for a car's VIN number to identify which car you've contracted to buy. If the car is not clearly identified, then yes, the dealer could jerk you around saying you've got to wait because his son bought the one earmarked for you (this happened to me once at a Nissan dealership).
Personally, now that we know what the MSRP and invoice prices are on the car (not the options as far as I know), I think it'd be a good idea to start asking for things in writing.
And finally, even if you could enforce a contract in court, the cost of hiring a lawyer and hassle of dealing with a lawsuit will probably not be worth it. Really, it's best to move on to another dealer.
wheel locks: depends on where you live, but they'd be indispensible in urban areas. Those rims are sweet and OE rims are very pricey (even 16" ones).
air filtration system: I have asthma, so this choice was easy. Filters are very easy to access on the Forester/Impreza.
arm rest extension: don't get one without it. This puts the center console at the same height as the door armrest (at least on my Forester). It feels odd without it, and it's more comfortable on trips.
-juice
Serge
The center armrest extension was a must-have for me as well. I don't like it when the center armrest is at a different height than the armrests,plus center console storage is at a premium on the WRX anyhow. I also opted for the auto dimming mirror/compass. I have this on my OB (already installed when I bought car) and have come to depend on it. I also went w/upgraded sec pkg as any prevention is better than none and I couldn't see myself going through the hassle of installing aftermarket. I didn't incl the short shift option after discussing w/my salesguy. He recommended installing aftermarket if it was something I really wanted after driving the WRX. He listed several recommended brands. I passed on the upgraded amp/spkrs as I'm not sure the improvement offered equals the fairly pricey amt Subaru is asking. I will go through Darlene for the cargo net, cross bars and diffy protector. Who knows, maybe I will include the aero pkg and upgraded wheels (not outrageously priced BBS...pluuuuueeeze!!)and tires, etc at a later date. I'm sure I will be able to find some justification. :-)
I have the purchase price of the WRX sportwagon w/options in writing as well as my trade-in price. I'm purchasing at MSRP and consequently am getting a full-value trade-in amount (you know, "apples to apples" thing). I have all the
e-mails that the salesman sent me regarding order allocation and arrival dates. He has been great at keeping in touch w/me and, so far, I highly recommend him for anyone in the NW region (specifically Puget Sound area).
Stephen
PS. For some reason, I got un-auto logged-in and couldn't remember my password to re-log on. I am now using barresa62 for work posts (shhhhh, keep it secret now!!!) and barresa11 for home.
In my opinion, I think the rear spoiler makes the slight sporty look and reduce the 'cheap' sedan look of wrx..for $399 it's a bit pricey though I must admit..:)
They charge $200 for the security system..I live in a pretty secure areas in Milwaukee...so the basic factory installed system would be enough for me...
I felt that the std sec system wasn't enough...it isn't much really. Check out the specs on what's std. Just a friendly FYI (maybe my pessimistic self coming through), no place is safe from auto theft. I feel that $200 is a small price to pay for (admittedly small) extra piece of mind.
Stephen in Seattle
That ought to save you about $100 per month in speeding tickets, reducing the overall cost of the vehicle significantly! :-)
Actually - no joke - this worked for me last fall in the Outer Banks. I had the baby in the car, and we had actually been to the Food Lion for groceries. I pointed to the milk, the baby, mentioned "Station Wagon" and before I could finish my apology he handed me back my license and told me to have a nice day!
-juice
Here comes OBX cop on his megaphone - heck, HE didn't want to get out in the rain! - making me the spectacle of the shopping strip.
Okay, fine, I'll just circle for another minute, what in the heck is the problem here? The strip mall was deserted at the time, off-season, raining, what did he care?
(uh, sorry, I guess this has nothing to do with the WRX!! But you know what, I think that was indeed a Food Lion!)
:-)
Pat
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Hmm, you weren't driving a station wagon were you? Goes to prove my point!
-juice
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but they;re in UK..which means it will cost almost a hundred dollar to pay the shipping alone..
Beside getting them from the dealers...anybody know any good subaru apparel online store?
thanks..
http://www.qsubaru.homepage.com/
They carry everything Subaru sells, including the entire lifestyles catalog:
http://www.qsubaru.homepage.com/lifestyles/index.html
The page can be slow but hang in there, or call her at 800-287-1281.
It's quality stuff. I have the T-shirt, hat, sunglasses, pen, 2 different keychains (leather and silver plated), jean oxford shift, and even stuffed animals for our little one.
Highly recommended. At local Subaru club events the folks are green with envy (though I usually try to get sponsorship to hand out freebies).
-juice
You can certainly call for prices on specific items.
Another tip - depending on where you live, look into clubs in your area. Quite often events are sponsored and freebies are handed out. I've given out T-shirts, hats, keychains, and sunglasses. Someone gave me a Subaru car wash kit, with a bucket and sponges, etc.
-juice
Is this accurate? Is it straight forward to install this oneself?
Thanks
Ditto for the center armrest extension.
And did I mention front heated seats? Yeah! Bun warmers...
Though I looked closely at one and took photos, and it looked like only two screws held it in place. Unless the other two are hidden. Photos are here:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1400062&Auth=false
It's photos 11 and 12 in the WRX album. I knew these would come in handy some day! :-)
I'm sure the armrest extension is a lot easier than the spoiler. Make sure to order grey or beige to match your interior.
Personally, I'd wait to see what aftermarket spoilers look like. I'm not too into the boomerang style on the current WRX sedan.
-juice
TAke care.
Joe W>
It's like telling a Fritos lover than Tostitos are better.
I mean, c'mon. We all know Fritos are better! ;-)
I'd take a wagon anyway!
-juice
But the fact remains - Doritos have 30% superior texture, 45% better taste, and 98% more superiority over the second best. 98%! That's incredible!
the WRX is 88% better than anything else.
WRX spoiler: it's probably an age thing. I know it's not for me. The WRX looks like it is going to appeal to a wide enough audience that making the spoiler optional is a smart choice. I think the car is so cool, so much fun to drive, and such a great value that whether or not it has a spoiler is not going to change my opinion. It looks okay, if you like spoilers. I just wouldn't buy one, that's all.
I looked high and low for a spoiler-free Legacy GT, and I'm glad every day that I found one. The car looks classy in my greybearded opinion. I've heard the arguments that it actually has some positive effect, and I can certainly believe that those arguments have merit; but for some odd reason I have serious doubts that I'll ever regret not having gotten a spoiler whilst the back of my car loses traction in an off-camber 100MPH sweeper. Other things will give out long before the traction does. Things like my nerve ;-)
Cheers,
-wdb
These "aero" kits on street cars are just for looks, they don't help a bit with downforce (actually I think the audi TT did need some kind of modification to keep it from trying to take off). That said I prefer the spoiler look most of the time. No company will ever top the HUGE wing and front nose cone used on the 70 Superbird or 69 Daytona although a few Civic owners have attempted it for themselves.
Cheers,
-wdb
The Audi TT now has a ducktail spoiler because it kills rear lift; the rear was getting light at high speed. But I don't think the WRX would make as much lift as fastbacks or cars with a smooth rear profile. The airflow probably somewhat separates at the top of the back window, so it wouldn't make a lot of lift in the back.
I'm not getting one on my WRX, because it'll hurt the already not-so-good fuel economy and it definitely won't do $395 worth of good.
Stephen
If I can only make it through the next couple weeks...
Take care.
Joe W>
Stephen