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Stephen
I might order it from Vanbortel Subaru and I'll take the fly to NY and drive back my bebe......wow
...BTW- I have ever been to NY.may be I should take a vacation.
I'll get back to this forum in about a month.
bye!
My question is this:
I keep reading some people telling others to wait for the STi version.
So, currently there is no plans to ship it stateside... are there contradictory plans?
Are they reconsidering?
Any information would be great.. thanks.
Drew
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Everybody likes to save money, but when you are talking about a $25K+ vehicle, even $1000 is a relatively small amount whether you pay cash or finance (especially if you finance). Another thing to think about is when you buy a car from a particular dealer, you are building a relationship for not only future purchases, but for service as well. Even though any dealer is suppose to happily do warranty and other service on the car, they sometimes don't look at it the same way when it wasn't bought from them. I've seen it happen. They end up thinking, "they weren't willing to buy the car from us, but now they want us to service his car/help them with this problem?" I know it shouldn't matter, but that is a reality in some cases in my experience. Just my $0.02.
Dtech
You should either make a scene, or if that's not your style, politely tell them to go to hell. When I am trying to get jipped, I tend give them a few stinging words (without cursing).
They are taking your money, they should be waiting on you hand and foot. It not only shouldn't matter, it doesn't matter whether or not you bought a car from them. You should go somewhere else. Specialty shops can also provide good service.
I did my research and then did it again. Then, this past weekend, drove up to Lewisville, Texas and put a deposit on a silver WAX sedan. The options that come with the car are key less entry, alarm and the upgraded rear-view mirror. I guess it auto-dims and has a compass built into it. What it really needs to have is a message bar that says "Slow Down NOW. Police Car Approaching."
The dealership is asking (and getting) MSRP. They admit that they have heard of some dealers taking less and many taking more. They invite buyers to find dealers that take less and shop there.
They are also afflicted with Cob Engineering, which specializes in Subaru performance upgrades. I was impressed that they sell new cars on the showroom that have already been given the upgrades (suspension, short shift, improved intake, etc.). They come with full warranties.
Mine should be available in two weeks. Can't wait. Now, if I can just sell the VW GTI VR6 in time.
Mark
Just wanted to make sure that you were aware of a couple of things. First of all, the keyless entry is std but the alarm is part of the sec pkg upgrade (car is pre-wired for this). Second of all, SOA does not warrant any of the aftermarket items offered through STI and, in fact, won't allow Subaru dealers to install. I read the actual notification to dealers from SOA. I think that this is actually posted on www.new-impreza.com. I'm sure SOA doesn't warrant anything from Cobb either. The only warranties would be that offered by tuner or parts mfg. Certain modifications may void your SOA warranty if it's proven that they caused or contributed to the malfunction in question.
I have the auto dimming mirror w/compass on my 00' OB Ltd and have come to really appreciate it. I am getting this along w/extended center armrest (check out std armrest, it's really shallow and low), and sec pkg upgrade on my silver WRX sportwagon due in the first allocation.
Stephen
i'm debating to get a WRX but do not know about subarus or any other cars in general. i first wanted to get a jeep wrangler sahara for the fun college student in me. but then decided on a honda accord ex v-6 for the soon to graduate wanting a comfortable ride engineer in me. in trying to find a middle ground between the two, the only one i could find was the WRX. practical yet powerful and not all luxurious where i would be afraid to take it to the snow. however, what i want to know and this doesn't necessarily deal with WRX's but subarus in general, is are they long lasting/reliable like hondas or toyotas? any insight anyone? also, in debating between the automatic or stick, the lazy person in me wants to get an automatic since bay area traffic can get ugly, but some of my friends have said that it would be a waste to get such a car in an automatic. anyone know if performance wise is it close to the stick or ...... ? lastly, i've heard the size of the WRX is comparable to the honda civic. i'm 6'3" and would like to have some room and then some for the person sitting behind me. will it be a tight squeeze? any input would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome aboard,
-wdb
With a gasoline turbo switch to synthetic
oil right away, My 1986 Toyota 4x4 Turbo ate it's turbo probably because of this. Took it a while though. You're supposed to allow the engine to cool down so that the oil in the Turbo doesn't crack from the heat.
My 1993 Legacy has 171,000 miles on it and still gets up to 80 or 85 (AT, it was loaded). It's amazing in snow, especially when my wife is driving it, we got it stuck twice, once was when I piled snow up at the start of the driveway to prevent her from comming up while I plowed down. She took it as a challenge. The only sad parts were the air suspention which was something like $400 per shock - we replaced it with a non air suspention (used). The most major expense was the steering rack.
The funnest part is learning to heel-and-toe and to double clutch.
As for back seat room, it will probably be a tight fit for people sitting behind you. But you can always move up.
I just finished reading a couple of reviews of the US-spec car. It looks like this car is easy to oversteer. The first thing I'm going to do when I break-in the car is execute a few spins.
Stephen
Nobody has tested the automatic's performance yet, but it is sure to be a bit slower then the manual if your are willing to really launch the stick hard. Otherwise I don't think you'd be missing much.
The new chasis on the Impreza WRX is 150% stiffer than the last generation, and the last gen could really take a beating... This car is going to be one of the most rugged and reliable cars on the road, easily on par with Honda in terms of reliablity (rated #2 out of all manufacturers by JD Power I believe)
There are alot of people over at www.i-club.com who are 6 feet Plus getting WRX's... And everyone whose been in one has said they fit, including some folks over 6'5"
The Automatic in the WRX has VTD (Variable Torque Distribution) as well as a 45/55 power distribution (front/back)... The manual trans does not have VTD and its a 50/50 split power wise. So you might actually get better handling out of the Automatic... No one knows quite yet.
ladychaos:
Check out www.new-impreza.com they have some pictures of wagons. www.i-club.com has some as well in the gallery section.
BTW, 90% of the people who hate the pictures of it turn out to really like it when they see it in real life. Perhaps you should wait until you see it in person before you judge it, no?
Czarina: Great name! Anyhow, I've ordered a silver 5-spd wagon. I like the added versatility of the wagon, plus the rear seat is roomier. I too preferred this wagon over getting a 6cyl OB. I currently own a 00'OB Ltd w/auto so I'm looking forward to some ACCELERATION! I second what Steve said about checking out www.new-impreza.com for pictures of the wagon. You'll need to go into the US/CA tab then the Detroit2001 pictures of the WRX. They have a black wagon on display. There are also pics under the Archive tab, Area 51. Hope this helps.
Stephen
I have some questions to you because you mentioned about "heel-and-toe" and "double clutch". I once owned Carola GT (RWD + 1.6 DOHC) and learned how to handle RWD cars. I also learned those things you mentioned. I definitely agree "heel-and-toe" is a must, but I was always wondering whether the double cluch was really necessary (I was doing it anyway). These days, I got little older and I am not using the double cluch anymore with my Jettar VR6. I often experience my shift stuck between 3 and 2nd gear. I thought this is due to the damn VW geat box. So, could you tell me why I still should use the double clutch?
BTW, I have Impreza wagon and once I brought it to a big empty space when it was snowing (There is no chance that the 2.2L can win the awsome AWD traction under dry condition). I found that the Subaru AWD behaves very similar to RWD but I thought it was not exactly the same. I am not sure why I felt in that way, but probably the turning circle when it is under oversteer seemded little larger... Since then, I was a little bit scared to push the car anymore under slippery conditions. Does anyone have any experience of sport driving with AWD?
as well as different hmm I read it somewhere that WRX has different piston or piston setting....or something like that...:) I forgot what exactly it is..
does the tailpipe also different? maybe...
well, hopefully anyone can have more accurate list of the difference
Not sure about suspension. It has smaller brakes too. err... no rear LSD.
I dunno what else. Oh yes, no leather MOMO steering wheel. In the case of CDN RS, no leather steering at all. =(
No free SCCA membership.
Head over to www.subaru.ca to see the full list of features b/t the models.
cheerio.
2.0 DOHC Turbo engine
aerodynamics side ground effects molding-black
aluminum alloy hood
6 disc CD changer and 6 speakers
fog lights
side air bags
hood scoop
keyless entry system
limited slip rear differential
map lights
momo steering wheel
sport tail pipe, dual outlet
WRX floor mats
VTD all wheel drive on automatics
aluminum pedal covers on manual transmissions
that is all the upgrades right out of the ordering guide. Hope that helps. That means the RS has the same suspention and seats I guess. I think it is just easier to build them that way. The fog lights and the keyless you can get as options on the RS but none of the rest of it.
Stephen
weight- 3124pds
0-60- 5.8
0-100- 17.5
1/4 mile 14.7 sec 93mph
Top Speed- 5th gear 140mph 5600 rpm
5-60- rolling start 6.8 ugh!
skid pad 0.82 they said it was the tires! 16"
gas mileage- as if it matters! 24mpg
Really runs out of gas after 60mph with a rather slow et in the quarter. They loved everything about it except the turbo lag, under 3000 rpm, and its looks. Maybe and STI is worth the wait cause I can't afford one now!
From the pictures it looks similar in size to the Subie and is not quite as aesthetically challenged. The current price in Japan is $25K
But when I double clutch, downshifting into any gear is much easier. If I get it exactly right, there is no resistance at all. I am sure that I am extending the life of my truck's old synchros when I double clutch. So I think double clutching will help your Jetta to downshift easier. I do know why this works, do you want me to tell you?
I also wondered if double clutching is as harmful as helpful. So I thought about it, and I figured that even though you are using the clutch more, you are not slipping it much (not like when you start from a stop sign), so it is also not extra harmful to the clutch. The thrust bearing will get more wear by double clutching, but it is durable enough to last until you replace the clutch.
But whether or not it is necessary to do it with the WRX depends on Subaru. They may have designed the synchromeshes to take the abuse of not double-clutching. But until I know for sure, I think double-clutching will extend the synchros' life while downshifting. It is obvious my truck's synchros were not designed for it.
I can't wait to double clutch my way into a corner!
Competition is always a good thing and can only stand to make the marketplace better.
I am also 99% sure that the seats are different. (No blue color stuff, its black I believe, and theres no Side Impact air bags)
That poor skidpad number is cause of the RE92 tires on the WRX... Same sucky tires on the current RS! SOA is insane to put such totally crappy tires on such a good car! ARG!
I suggest anyone who gets the WRX replace these tires as soon as your break in period is over... It will make a world of difference.
Bob
On another note, the Car & Driver article on the WRX was great. They also have a test between the OB VDC, Audi Avant 1.8T, BMW 325 AWD wagon, & Passat GLX 4-motion wagon. At the end of the article they mention the need for a re-match w/the WRX sportwagon, hinting that it may dethrone the Audi Advant 1.8T (the #1 pick of the group).
Stephen
Turning circle (feet): 35.4 - (2.5 RS, OB, WRX); 33.5 - (2.5 TS)
Anybody knows why the difference?
Brakes: Front - 10.7 disks (2.5 RS, 2.5 TS, OB)
11.4 disks (WRX)
BTW, I'm in Seattle too and ordered in 1st allocation... who's your dealer? I'm purchasing from Melody Subaru in Kirkland (despite overwhelming praise of Joe at Carter Sube) and I'm wondering if all dealerships in Wstrn WA can expect 1st allocation at around the same time? I haven't heard from the dealer regarding a VIN yet either.
Anybody want a yellow WRX???????????????????? I guess people will sell anything
(P.S this is not my ebay ad)
-juice
Hey, yeah I think that they should all be coming in around the same time in Seattle for first allocation. I ordered mine through Joe Spitz @ Carter Subaru. He's a real car guy and knows his product (can't be said for most salespeople I've encountered). I bought my 00'OB Ltd from Melody's when it was still Kirkland/Nissan (back in Feb 00'). I got a good price but, honestly, the svc dept sucks! Plus the additional drive for me from Greenwood/Phinney where I live is a little much. Additionally, they're only open Sat. on the weekends. You really have to book early if you want to get in then or you're stuck on the weekdays. Carter is just up the road from me. They have been selling Soobs since 76' and their svc dept is open 7 days a week plus free loaner cars. I was told by reliable sources that the customer satisfaction index is really low @ Melody's. In fact, SOA was toying w/the idea of holding back their matching adv funds until the index # showed improvement. Anyhow, I don't want to rain on your parade. Besides, you can take your new WRX to any Soob dealer for svc. Let me know what you ordered (color, options, etc) and when you get it. Check my profile for my home e-mail.
Thanks,
Stephen
I used the VIP program to order my Blue WRX Sedan w/ spoiler, short shifter and guage pack. I checked into it as soon as they unveiled the car at the auto show and was told yes the WRX was covered under VIP. The VIP plan entitles you to dealer cost (at least that's what my company's internal posting says.)Invoice for the sedan is $22,048. Mine should be in the week of 3/17. Just have to test drive and check into a sunroof...and get rid of a car or two I'm currently paying on!
Regards,
Bob