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Tony
You should check the Subaru Crew "Dealers & Pricing" forum. There are a lot of posts from your area. Overall, I'd say that 6% over is neither a bad nor a great deal. Some areas of the country are "hotter" than others in sales. Texas for instance is not Soob land. Better deals have been reported in areas where winter weather is not an issue.
- hutch
Have yet to test drive the WRX, but methinks I'm of the less luxury, more performance sort. Especially since I'm coming from a modified Neon.
-Beanboy
Its Rob Brosen, by the way.
It was a 5-spd sedan.
The price was $23,878 with those options I listed. Damned good price, I think. After taxes and tags and fees, the total came to $25,716.42
Don't know if you should mention a price (that might be pushy). Maybe he'll give you that same deal if you just tell him I sent ya. I'd think that everyone is getting that price, but you never know.
I guess you can just hope that it hasn't gone to someone else yet. I would think that he may have already made some calls to people who were on the waiting list, but you never know. The spoiler seems to be really popular and I didn't want it. I think it looks much cleaner without it.
When I am ready to buy a car (which has to be next year since my lease ends then), I will be going back there.
Let me know what happens.
Good luck.
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I haven't purchased one yet but I'm definitely looking at buying one soon. The best deal I've been quoted so far is 6% over invoice on an order. This was at Carlsen Subaru in Redwood City. I was also quoted 6% over invoice on an order at the Subaru dealer in Santa Cruz. Sorry I don't have their business card with me right now but there's only one in SC so they shouldn't be hard to find. Carlsen might be better because the salesman said they're high volume and would be able to get the car before other dealers in the area. Good luck and let me know if you find anything better.
Tony
What's the recent pricing scene on the WRX? Do you think it's going to go up or down as we head into the summer? Thanks for any and all info.
Can always modify down the road, but turbocharging seems to be the only real way to get a good power increase out of the 2.5L, and much of the aftermarket is expensive.
I'm going for the WRX since I want a wagon and there is no RS in wagon form. Also my first new car and I can easily afford it now, a good feeling. Also looks like getting decent power upgrades will be fairly easy and cheap to do, up to a certain point.
My biggest knock would probably be the need for premium feul. With gas prices now that really makes a dent in my budget.
Did they quote you 22,000 for the invoice or the 22,500 figure. Are they jacking up the price on the options or include all options as invoice and then adding the 6%.
Thanks for the good info. Rob
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Dennis
They're using the 22,500 figure. They're also using the invoice numbers on the options. Some of the numbers they gave me on the options aren't exactly what is listed as invoice on Edmunds but it's not much higher.
Tony
When I started there, I already had a Sube. $20 per year for membership isn't a bad deal though. In that case, it's actually
$20 over dealer invoice. :-)
Dennis
1) is this a decent deal
2) if I own the car for 5 years what are the chances i will need a $1700 dollar repair?
3) did most people pick this up?
thanks, RB
How? My WRX is fast, granted, but it doesn't seem that fast. I have about 3000 miles on it (got in April). I heard that cars change their "personality" and get faster around 10k miles. Is this true? Can I expect my WRX to increase in performance on its own?
Also, I was thinking about buying an APEXi AVC boost controller (around $700 installed). The store says that I can increase boost to around 17psi and expect around 265hp. Has anyone tried something like this? Should I wait until the car has more mileage?
Remember: The WRX is not about drag strip times but more a total package that includes fantastic handling and great tractability.
Stephen
The reason I ask about the 0-60 times is because people like to challenge the car at the stoplight. I won't really be racing people around corners but I would like to win a few stoplight races.
Stephen
I called around to some of the other dealers in the Bay Area last night to get some price quotes. I did find one that was offering the WRX for less than 6% over invoice but with a catch. Downtown Subaru in Oakland is offering $750 over invoice on orders but they can only guarantee the color, type of car (sedan/wagon), and transmission. They salesman said they might be able to guarantee a spoiler but wasn't sure. All other options would have to be what was on the car when they got the order in but they would put on other options once the parts came in. Sounds sort of sketchy but just thought you might like to know.
Tony
thanks bluesubie
ps- are people out there really keeping their wrx under restraint for the majority of its first 800 miles? (note- I said the majority)
Don
-juice
extended warranties are a tough thing to justify but it gives you peace of mind if nothing else, after spending over 2K on various sensors gone wrong and the stupid pneumatic suspension on my 92 Legacy LS I got the warranty on my 98 GT. Have already got 310 back on it when my radio antenna died and some bulb on my a/c burned out. The bulb I could live without the rest of my time with the car, not having Click and Clack to listen to on the radio I can't! I think for a turbo, an extended warranty may be good insurance! They are very expensive to fix when they go bad. And Murphys Law says it will go bad at 60, 100 miles.
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Dennis
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I just wanted to check what the situation is with this car. I recently bought a lemon, which the company I bought it from is going to take back, and relieve me of the headaches. Then, I thought of the WRX.
I went to a dealer, who immediately said, "I do not play games. I do not add to the top of the price. My price is 24,995, plus the features, like the spoiler, the armrest, destination, etc."
Now, I have seen people posting comments on this about %'s over the invoice. My question is, what have people received as a "Monthly" payment deal? I mean, what is a good range? 400-425? Less? or is that avg?
My only curiousity otherwise, is the doors that this car has. To me, they seemed a little "flimsy" if you will, but maybe that is becuase I was crammed between the car, and another. Therefore, I managed to some how wiggle my way in, without touching door to door. That was not nice!
Nonetheless, the doors just felt like they did not have much "substance" to them. I mean, I know they have the steel door beams...but the door did not feel solid!
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I haven't much time to decide what to do, but yet, I do not want to feel rushed either. I am just weighing my options, and this seemed to be a fairly educated crowd of people. See ya! Happy driving.
phatride01.
The doors felt flimsy because they're frameless (no frame around the door glass). I wasn't aware before I went for my test drive that the doors are this way. A frameless door's top edge is basically two pieces of metal, outer skin and inner frame, attached only at the front end (where the mirror pod attaches) whereas framed doors are joined at the front end by the mirror pod and at the rear edge by the anchoring of that end of the glass frame.
EG: Neon doors are frameless, and mine don't THUNK when they're shut; they sorta CLANG-RATTLE. It's made worse because mine is a 2 door, so the doors are very long (meaning lotsa flex) while my sister's Neon is a 4 door, and those doors shut much more solidly.
DjB
The bottom line in any negotiation should always be the final purchase price. If the amount of the monthly payment is important to you, there are plenty of loan calculators available on the web that you can use to determine how much car you can afford.
The other reason you don't see anyone posting monthly payment info is because that figure is almost useless for comparison purposes. This is because there are so many variables involved. I.e. interest rate on loan, length of loan, trade-in or down payment amount and sales price.
-Frank P.
Note: Dukes of Hazzard Theme song can be installed as well. Check with your local redneck truck owner.
The quote that this particular dealer provided, was for a WRX, with the armrest, upgraded sound, and a spoiler. The total price he provided was 25.5K for all this. However, I know the place in Rochester that is selling WRX models for 22.5K (goodness knows how).
However, I am still in the arena. I will not make any promises, or leave deposits, etc. til I know that I am sure that this would be wise for me.
Regarding the frameless doors, well, the current vechicle that I have has frameless doors. What I meant to imply that they do not feel "heavy" for some apparent reason. I wonder what the side crash rating would be, if and when it is done? I mean, I have a family to support, but I also love to be the "free-sprited me" when I am driving to and from places where my family isn't. Can anyone say "work?" Yet, I would like to know that the car is fairly safe, and I am sure that the side air-bags would help tremendously.
Nonetheless, I would still like to drive the car, as a test. I figure the manual transmission is something that I will be looking into, since it just seems like second nature, at this point. The spoiler, well, if it's there it is...but I have hardly ever been a fan of "stock" spoilers.
Nonetheless, what would people say a good deal is for this vehicle? To me, around 24K seems reasonable. What would you all say?
later
phatride01
Final note: If you find a Rolex at a yard sale for $50 bucks, how much would you sell it for--$55, or as much as you could get a willing buyer to pay?
BTW, Rolex is a different product, with a different value. Can't compare a rare watch to some car.
I'd like a WRX, but I'm not willing to pay over 23k for it.
Every single business survives on profit margin. There is a cost associated with running a car dealership, and customers must pay that cost or the dealership doesn't stay open. No dealership, then you've got nowhere to look at cars. Nowhere to get factory service performed.
$400 profit on a $23,000 car isn't going to cut it, maybe not even if you sold a whole bunch of 'em. And guess what, the dealers that can sell a whole bunch of WRXs don't have them (in desirable configurations at least, i.e. manual tranny) and those that do have them are asking MSRP and possibly some ADM on top of that.
This has all been debated in the internet car purchasing topics before so I'll shut up... but just look at how well those internet car sellers are doing. You know, the ones that are still around. ;-)
That's the way I see it at least.
-Colin