Chrysler 300M

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  • russklassrussklass Member Posts: 389
    P.T. Barnum was right!
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Scotian - at least the e-ram is grounded in engine physics that we know and understand. My real problem with the tornado is they don't explain WHY it works. They show little spinners to show the air is circulating, they show some dyno readings, they have testamonials...but not once do they say anything more about the WHY other than to say "it improves the air/fuel mixture". Maybe they don't know why. Maybe it's magic. Maybe they think we're too stupid to understand. Maybe it doesn't work. I just wish they'd try to explain it.
  • splattsplatt Member Posts: 328
    I'm in complete agreement with you. I'd get it in a second if they could tell me why it works...

    Reminds me of a funny story - my father-in-law worked in car parts for a lot of years. The chrysler transmission, that was used on the 3L-V6 had a habbit of up and dying - a known problem (happened on my 94 caravan as well). Well this guy he knew created some chemical that when you pour it in would fix the tranny. Problem is no one knew why - and therefore chrysler refused to use it (there's a lot of liability there if it did something nasty as well - they didn't know).

    Maybe it's the same thing. They know it works, and you could probably duplicate the thing with some engineering and car skills, but they don't know why, so they come up with this BS infomercial that no one really believes. Who knows? :D

    Fuzzywuzzy - you call it junk - why? Again, I don't know either way, but if I could have proof one way or the other (worked or didn't) I'd be done with it... a $75 mod that would increase mpg and potentially hp is a good and cheap invenstment, but only if it works ;)
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Sorry I should have said IMHO it is JUNK!!! PERIOD!!

    I know people who have tried it, & it did nothing. Maybe on a pure stock car, & maybe one that has a big air restriction would it work, & then only a little. Yes I have no facts. Yes it might work on the M. But it wouldn't justify the cost. I could get the same increase in gas milage with a better air filter, or better spark plugs.
  • scotianscotian Member Posts: 1,064
    Did the faulty light switches ever turn on the door open dash light with the dome light?
  • intrepidspiritintrepidspirit Member Posts: 662
    I don't think so...
  • phases78phases78 Member Posts: 471
    ok ok ok so everyone has different feelings on this thing, but, i think, for the good of the group, SOMEONE ought to test it out, who knows, and if it is in fact a fuelsaver, at the least, then maybe itll be worth it, it would for me. sadly, unless noone trys it out for a few months, i wouldnt be the test rat. yeah i know its sad, dont have 75 bucks to spare right now, but hey, what can ya do.....


    phases78


    http://phases78.homestead.com/300m.html

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    I have an idea. I know that 300michael has already installed a fridge in his car, maybe he can also install a little shop vac set to BLOW and combine the two to his intake and ram cold air into the throttle body. That ought to be good for about 5mpg and 20hp...and a few laughs. ;)
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Ok, I just got done doing a lot of reading in the internet about this thing. 95% of the independent posts say that the device is a complete waste of money and a complete marketing ripoff..just like fuel line magnets, gas tank "miracle pills" and other stuff. 4% weren't sure and were asking, and about 1% were advertising female jello wresetling. Several of the posts came from true automotive guys who also claim that there is no basis in physics for what they claim. Several came from people who have tried and returned the device...and were embarassed to have "fallen for it". Several posts were from people who suggested that people make their own instead of spending $75. And more than a few suggested that that money would be better spent on really necessary car enhancements....like egyptian-made velvet elvis seat covers that play "amal shukkup" when you sit on them. Several made a good point...the EPA is all over the car makers to improve gas mileage and they spend millions in research to improve it. If a tuna can with fins or fuel line magnets could improve fuel economy even the smallest amount these things would be standard in every US car made.
  • drpixeldrpixel Member Posts: 256
    Ah, oh learned one...wise in the ways of the Internet.....destroyer of hopes for better gas mileage by using a tuna can with fins......I yield to your superior intellect and amazing feats of internet surfing...{sob}...I am not worthy to even lie in your shadow...(snivel..).I supplicate myself before you and ask for 30 lashes..no--(gulp..)- 75 lashes for being so foolish --one for each dollar-less S & H--I would have foolishly spent.....
    THERE: are you all HAPPY now, hmmmmm? ....sheesh...grumble....grumble........{SLAM}
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  • valhsvalhs Member Posts: 63
    In a previous post sdmike2 implies that by running premium unleaded and applying vaseline to yourself you can become invisible. I have the police report to the contrary. Now if this works for 300M drivers only and not LHS drivers he should have been more specific in his instructions. At best sdmike2 is forgetful...at worst he's a liar head. Signed a concerned, incarcerated but extremely slippery LHS driver.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Sorry if I offended, sir. I'm just a believer in gathering as much information as possible before making a $75 decision. There are a lot of people that say that a K&N filter and Bosch +4 plugs don't help either....but I put those on MY car. ;)
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    I meant put the vaseline on the THROTTLE body...not YOUR body! (snicker). The good news is that I saw some LHS seats for sale on eBay. Might be cheaper than cleaning yours.
  • splattsplatt Member Posts: 328
    Boy, leave for a couple hours and look what I miss :-D

    sdmike, thanks for the research. I hadn't been saying I thought it worked or not, I just didn't know (and I hate infomercials - they give me a creepy feeling ;) And as for the K&N and Bosch, they are already shipped for me (got the notice today as a matter of fact...)

    I've basically been looking for relatively inexpensive and easily installable mods... So far so good...
  • guesswho1guesswho1 Member Posts: 209
  • russklassrussklass Member Posts: 389
    Mike makes a good point...If ANY auto manufacturer could eak out a 1% fuel mileage increase by using one of these "miracle" gadgets they would trample anyone that got in their way getting to it.
    The pressure from the EPA and others to increase CAFE is intense.
    Look at the expense of cutting off a .01cD in the wind tunnel, variable cam timing, tuned intake and exhaust ports etc.
    A "mracle" gadget would be snapped up instantly...IF it worked!
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    You are a guy after my own heart (LOL). I can cool down my air intake and cook veg dogs at the same time. My shop vac is very small, I will have to get one of those big industral ones and try it. I will also have to purchase one of those 100 megawatt inverters to power it. I have room in the engine bay for it. My tuna can did nothing for my power or gas mileage. Maybe a bean can would have done better (more gas, LOL),you think????????? :)
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    that tornado device is basically creating extra restriction in the air flow. I don't see how an extra restriction can improve things. Everyone seems to be trying to smooth out airflow restrictions in order to improve performance not create more of them.
  • radtechradtech Member Posts: 10
    Hey team I've a quick question about brake shudder in my M. Has anybody else noticed this?
    New rotors? Pads? or both?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    howdy. What year? How many miles? What kind of tires?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Hey, you might have something there! I wonder if some bean fumes might increase the octane or improve the infamous "gas to air mixture". lol! Hell, maybe you can somehow combine the shop vac, fridge, beans (with can) and some weenies to not only improve performance but also make a good picnic lunch!
  • nmifr300mnmifr300m Member Posts: 28
    Boy am I lucky. The just put in the one and only Dyno in New Mexico here in Albuquerque, not surprising since over half the population in the state is in the greater area. They charge $50 a "Pull", $65 for two and $75 for three. If you have a older car where you can adjust various paramenters easy. I'm going to take my 2001 300M PHP in for a "Pull" either tomorrow or Friday. Just can't resist. Computer has programs to correct the curves for altitude, temperature, humidity, back to the SAE standard. So you get the information on the actual parameters for your location and also the corrected curve back to SAE standard. Now I know in general we don't like Rice Burners but I went by a speed shop to get estimate on makeing the standard Mods. There was a kid there, he must put every dollar he earns into his car, a Eclipse that has been tricked out to the Max. The owner of the store says the kid has now put over $5000 into his engine alone. A big turbo on the 2.2L and the dam thing made 440HP corrected. The sad thing for us at high altitude is his horse power up here is only 330HP, ie you lose 25% power at 5000 feet. I always wondered if turbo presurres was relative to actuall pressure or was it absolute pressure. I guess I now know.

    Also go to the Chrysler (US) home page, they have updated there adds and talk about the 300M and 300M Special. (Do I hear every one leaving to get on the Chrysler page?)
  • jona57jona57 Member Posts: 194
    My 1st estimate from my 5* included only $160 for my tire (I have an 01 M with PHG). I told the body shop I had the PHG & was assured that was the right price for my tire. From the discussions on this board I knew this price was WRONG!! I had to convince them that my M did NOT have the Michelin Energy (std tire), but rather the more expensive Pilot HX MXM4's (PHG). Had I not been a nut about my car, they would have given me a base tire. I can only guess what other slip-ups will threaten my M.

    -No one cares 'bout my baby like I do!!!!!!!!!
  • radtechradtech Member Posts: 10
    2000M, 25K miles, Chrome aluminum wheels, Just bought it 5K miles ago and have had this brake problem since I got it, should I replace the rotors and\or the pads? Where else should I look?
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    You guys put down infomercials, but I bet a lot of you have purchased an infomercial product that works just as advertised----The George Foreman "Lean, Mean, Fat Reducing Grilling Machine." I have to admit I bought one after seeing that infomercial and it works just as advertised. Quickest breast of chicken griller in the country.

    I have a device that should save you at least 10% on your gas useage. It is egg-shaped and you mount it under your gas peddle. When you accelerate, you must push just lightly on the accelerator pedal to avoid breaking the egg. If you press too hard the egg will break and you will have a major mess to clean up. You will quickly learn not to accerate too rapidly and will save big bucks on your gas bill. For the lowly price of $69.95 I will supply you with 3 gas saver eggs. And if you order by Friday, I will include 3 more eggs for only $10 more. Please include $9.99 for shipping and handling. Express shipping is only 14.95. Satisfaction guaranteed. Limited supply, so order today!
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    How come you don't give the bonus pack of handy wipes (just incase) for the lead footed. And doesn't the egg go ontop of the gas pedal??
    I did not buy the George Forman Grill (there are soo many now) as I am vegan (thats a vegetarian that doesn't eat dairy or fish eather).
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    usually gets within a couple of hp in comparison to a dyno. You just don't get the details (how and when) just the HP.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    no, the egg goes under the pedal---and it comes with a full instruction manual---"Using the Gas Saving Egg for Dummies"---
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    It sounds like the problem exists only under braking. Take your car to your dealer and have them check the pads and turn the rotors. Many people in here have had rotor warping issues with their Ms. If turning the rotors fixes the problem, great. If afterwards the problem comes back quickly you might have bad rotors (I had bad ones on my Galant). Bad rotors may have inconsistent metal and experience soft or hard spots that cause uniformity issues. You might have to fight them pretty hard to get replacment rotors under warranty. If turning the rotors doesn't fix the problem you'll want to start looking at front suspension components, and possibly uneven wear on your front tires (especially if you have Goodyears). Based on what you said, however, it sounds like the rotors.

    Good luck, and let us know.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Best 1/2 hour I ever watched on TV :)
    Great product!! Have 2 of them!
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    I would say warped rotors. Have them turned, & slap some new pads on. I would not go to a dealer. They will charge you alot more for the work. You could make a big stink about how a $30K car should not have warped rotors at only 25K miles. If they would fix them for free, then that's great. But if not go somewhere else. Should go away if it is brake related.
  • cmyers300mcmyers300m Member Posts: 206
    Well, it appears I'm having my first problem with my 01M. My auto dimming rearview mirror seems to be working intermittently. I believe someone else on this site was having the same problem. I want to say maybe the photo cell is bad? I do have a rear spoiler that does come in line with part of the mirror but I don't believe it is the problem. Next time i go in my 5* I'm going to push for a replacement! Anyone have input on this problemo?
  • herrmdoggherrmdogg Member Posts: 69
    What's up guys?


    Anyone know where I can get some nice big shiny cross drilled rotors?


    Thanx in advance.


    http://members.cardomain.com/herrmdogg


    HerrmDogg

  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Not bigger, but same size. I haven't found any place that makes them bigger.

    I have a set of these on my M

    Cross drilled rotors

    http://www.kvrperformance.com


    I have a set of these on my Explorer

    Slotted rotors

    http://www.appliedrotortechnology.com


    I also think powerstop makes them for the M, but not sure.

    http://www.powerstopbrakes.com

  • rstilprstilp Member Posts: 105
    Just installed some Tire Minders on my M. They let you know if your tire pressure is below 28 pounds without checking with a gauge. Pretty slick.If anybody is interested go to minderresearch.com and click on Tire Minder. Rick/Geezer300M
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    I suggested that he go to the dealer just in case he needed some history with them on the issue if the rotors turned out to be bad. While they're unlikely to replace them under warranty without a fight, a local brake shop most certainly won't. :) I took my Galant to my dealer 5 times in the first 15,000 miles with rotor/brake issues, and once they got everything solved (new rotors and some recalled suspension fixes) I eventually had to go in for a "regular" brake pad replacement. They did it for free. Hated the car, loved the dealer. SImilarly I took my wife's van to Brake Depot for their $99 brake pad replacement and the first thing they told me was that I needed NEW rotors and NEW CALIPERS!! I got out of there as fast as possible and went to my dealer who turned the rotors and replaced the pads like normal. I agree, their rates will be higher, but they're less likely to spring crap like Brake Depot did, especially since BAD rotors and calipers would be covered under warranty.

    If you have a shop you trust, great. Take it there. If not, try your dealer.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    What did those things cost?
  • mikeyjohnmikeyjohn Member Posts: 365
    Interesting that this company is located in Brampton Ont. So you guys and gals planning on going for the DC factory tour might want to attend this company en mass and you might get deal. I will have to attend my local Canadian Tire and find out the price, as I am to far to attend the tour. Also do us poor cousins up north get a break on membership in the club? Or am I just a whiney cheap SOB. LOL Remember our Cdn paper money might look pretty, but it could also be used in the JOHN for you know what!!!!!!!!
  • drpixeldrpixel Member Posts: 256
    First..radtech: I'm going to be sending you another clingy/sticker. It will be coming in one of those cardboard floppy disk mailers,plainly marked "Suspicious Package", so don't get spooked when it arrives, okay?
    sdmike2: not to worry, I am not offended...just janking a chain or two, is all...
    Others:..go ahead, make fun of the tool/automotive-challenged....I can take it..hey, I bet if you put the George forman grill UNDER the gas pedal, you mileage DEFINITELY would go up..that thing is huge!

    1/2 star dealer sent me my check for $600+ so I can go to my OWN autobody guy to get eMily's sullied passenger doors fixed.... they still owe me a couple of free erl changes.....

    Light crowd in the chatroom last night, but was good the 'see' those of youse who were there...
    Noo Yawk News.....not blocks away from da Fed, the terorists who blew up the embassy in africa are being sentenced today..hmmmm..wonder what they'll get?...other news: a tanker truck was stolen from a company's lot in Parsippany, NJ loaded with fertilizer...wonder where that went?

    WHAT is this world coming to?.....
    D O C
  • mikeyjohnmikeyjohn Member Posts: 365
    The cost of the Tireminder for a package of two here in Canada is $9.99, so for 20 bucks it is not a bad deal. It also appears to come in different tire pressure sequences, so I guess one would have to figure out what tire pressures you like in your car. If anyone wants to check out the Canadian Tire web page, go to www.canadiantire.ca and follow the links.
  • drpixeldrpixel Member Posts: 256
    The sticker is in the mail....end of coded message>
    Doc
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Some company in my building got a letter from Kuwait this morning. The guy who it was too never heard of the sender, so he called the cops. A hazmat crew & like 5 cops cars showed up! Turned out to be nothing! I also sent a package today to someone who bought a subwoofer off me from ebay. I just used a box I found that lying around because it fit. It had these little blue stickers on it. I didn't know what they were or meant & just packaged it normaly. Got to the post office. The clerk said wait a minute. Went to the back, & got a cop who was stationed there. And the clerk with thick yellow rubber gloves, opened the package to see what was in it. I was like what are you doing, I hope your going to seal it back up. Looking at the cop who's hand was on his gun just waiting to pull it out! They found nothing. It seems those little blue stickers indicated chemicals were in the box. I had to take them off before they would take it. Gees!!!
  • splattsplatt Member Posts: 328
    yeah, we all know what you're shipping :-D

    Seriously though, that's a bit scary. OTOH, better safe than sorry...
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Doc - hopefully those guys that stole the fertilizer truck just wanted to have an extra green lawn this winter. Sheesh. I also read that a signficant amount of small pox stuff has been missing from Russia for years. Unlike anthrax it's highly contageous, and there are very few bottles of vaccine in the country because the disease was wiped out years ago. They say as few as a hundred cases could start a pandemic. It just keeps getting more and more interesting. I just keep trying my best to plug away as normal.

    -M
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    What's the paint code for 2000 Bright silver metallic???

    Thanks
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    I forgot that I had two sets of these that I purchased a long time ago. Made in Taiwan, but the company is in Brampton. The ones I have are for 28-34 PSI's. They do come with a one year warranty. There's no price on them. I don't remember where I got them, but most likely- K-Mart, Auto Zone or Walmart. Thanks for mentioning these. I knew right where I put them, but just forgot about them.

    fastdriver
  • silverbullet4silverbullet4 Member Posts: 449
    I'm meeting my local Zaino Bros. distributor tomorrow to score a couple of bottles of Z-7 car wash and some terry cloth applicator pads. He has a Viper with about 30 coats. (Do you think he gets to write it off as a demonstrator?) ;>)

    Silver
  • splattsplatt Member Posts: 328
    it's PS2 for the 01 and 02. I'd imagine it's the same for the 00?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Here is a pdf of every DC code that I found. I couldn't find the government PDF that I posted a link to a little while back that had the color plates and codes shown.


    http://starnetworkc.extra.daimlerchrysler.com/starlibrary/reference_docs/salescode.pdf

  • russklassrussklass Member Posts: 389
    The car should have come with at least SOME warranty! Try to get the seller to fix it, if no go, try a Chrysler dealer.
    Front rotors are a weak item on all US cars. I think resurfacing is a waste of time and money. Go for new rotors.
    Also: Be sure the wheel nuts are hand-torqued evenly. Improper torque can cause rotor warping.
    I had the front rotors replaced by Chrysler at no charge on both "99 and '01 300Ms.
    Good luck.
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