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Chrysler 300M



  • I feel sorry for DC. Think I'll go out and buy a 2002 Ram 1500.
  • carleton1carleton1 Posts: 560
    How long will it take Honda to copy this idea?
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    The 300M's have no key light. When you open the doors The door, map, and curitesy lights all go on.
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    The Crossfire is built in a specialty plant so the cost is much higher then one built in the Americas. And most of it is MB parts, so the cost is higher, even though it is not at the top of the food chain (automotively speaking).
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    So what are you going to get now?
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    Maybe the name refers to the feeling the driver feels while in the vehicle. You know calm, peaceful, and relaxed (while flying through the curves and speeding down the Hiways). Kind of like how the 300M drives.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    I crawled around in one when I did the product review session this summer. I liked the look from the rear wheels forward, but I didn't like how they finished off the side windows towards the rear. I think they tried to make it look more flowing, but I think it just looks hokey. The way the rear seats and gate work are pretty cool though (if they kept the designs that they showed us). The rear seats disappear to provide an amazing amount of room, and the rear gate (again, in the prototype) actually pivoted about 18 inches forward of the back corner, which was hinged before going down the back window. You would lift the handle up, which would cause a pivot at the front and a folding at the hinge. You would essentially fold the rear window up to where it would almost sit on the roof. The amount of room to load cargo was amazing.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    I gave Big Red a bath today and was horrified at the amount and severity of scratches on my drivers rear quarter panel. No dents, just clusters of scratches all over. My guess is that the neighborhood kids use my car for some purpose when they're playing on our street..something like grabbing onto it to stop their scooters or something. The scratches were on the left side of the trunk, the bumper, and all over the outside of the quarter panel, clustered like each set was some "event" that occurred. It made me sick to my stomach. I decided I had two choices...get it repainted or find a product that would hide the scratches. Z5 was no match for the scratches..even after 4 or 5 localized coats. Dejected I went off to Kragen Auto Parts to see if anyone still sold that colored car polish that's supposed to fix faded and scratched paint. I figured if it messed up the car I would have to paint it anyway, right?

    I came out with a bright red...kinda pinkish looking...bottle of Turtle Wax Color Cure. It even had a waxy lipstick-like device with it for deeper scratches. Interesting stuff. The guy at the store said he tried their black on his car but it was kind of a charcoal color and didn't match well. Didn't sound good, but what the hell. I used the stick on a couple of deeper scratches where I could see the white of the primer under the scratch. It went on like crayon....and was just as attractive. However, surprise! When I buffed it off after a few minutes it did a pretty good job of filling the scratch and blending. Not perfect, but pretty good considering. A couple more layers made it even better.

    Then I tried the Color Cure. Oh my gosh this stuff was nasty. It permanently stained the application rag immediatly, and it took me a while to get the stuff off my hands when I was done. I feared I would have giant fuscia (fuschia?) patches on my quarter panel where I applied the stuff. But, surprise again! It did a darned good job. Three coats made the scratches almost invisible!! I was finally no longer sick to my stomach, and I found a product that was a keeper for me. I finshed it up with a couple coats of Z5 just to give it the zaino touch again and I'll be damned if it doesn't look just super. :)

    Another discovery. You guys know I've been asking about terrible discoloration of my A pillars between the front and rear doors...kind of like terrible, blotchy, dulling hard water stains. I even posted a picture. Well, when i was working with the Z5 I decided to give the pillar one more try. This time I scrubbed at it, and amazingly the "stuff" started to come up a bit. It started to look like some kind of residue instead of plastic discoloration. Once I found that out I went to my "residue removal stuff" section of the garage and tried things like lighter fluid, goo gone and a couple other solvents on small areas. Nothing. Whatever it was (is) it doesn't seem to respond to typical solvents....but the Z5 has an effect on it. So I spent the next 15 minutes scrubbing like hell and got the pillars to a tolerable level of shine. Not a bad car day if you ask me. :)

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  • kosh_2258kosh_2258 Posts: 338
    Karmann has been in the business of lower volume manufacturing for years and is quite good at it. I'm not sure that the Crossfire will pay a penalty in price for being built by them. Remember the VW Scirocco? Those were ALL built by Karmann for VW and while more expensive than a Rabbit/Golf they weren't significantly higher.

    The MB parts will be hard to get used to. But it was probably the availability of those parts that made it possible to get the Crossfire in production so quickly. Chrysler's lack of a RWD car to adapt the parts from probably dictated the use of the MB drivetrain.

    I see the Crossfire as a sneak peek at what the LX cars will have in store for us.
  • ed12ed12 Posts: 100

    I have on order an AWD Town and Country. I saw a 300M special, but the versatility, comfort and refinement of the T&C made it a simple choice for me.

  • I wonder how long that look will last. Is that stuff permanent or will it wash off with a high pressure car wash? I also have a few deep scratches on my silver M. Do they make a silver color as well. Let us know how durable it is. I just might give that stuff a try myself.
  • I used the same stuff on my 67 Galaxie XL Convertible, the paint is getting kind of old. I have to say it worked wonderfully on the painted surfaces. I would not used the colored wax on nonpainted surfaces.

    I used the regular clear wax on all the chrome, polished alluminum (there is a ton on a 67 Ford). The car's paint looked better.

    I found the lipstick stuff kind of hard to use unless it was warmed up a little. But the Galaxie never sees rain, snow, and anything other than a gentle hand wash, so it worked for me.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Here's a link to an on-line store that sells the stuff. They have silver. I think I paid less than this at Kragen, but at least it confirms its existence in your color. Give it a shot. Even if it only lasts a couple of washes (it seems more resilient than that) I can always re-apply it when I wax Big Red.

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Anyone here try this contraption? Look like a big car squeegie. If it works without scratching I'd be all over it. Big Red collects dew all night and I could use some help getting her dry.
  • scotianscotian Posts: 1,064
    I have one. I like it.
  • just thought i`d mention i visited the 5* yesterday.
    they replaced the input sensor on trans due to the limp mode,fixed problem.cost..100.00
    i had a trans line leaking at cooler.they fixed it too.cost..117.00
    also had a bad lower rad hose from trans leak(rebbing,and deteriated due to fluid,never seen that before,was like hose started to melt and turned gooey!) cost...96.00
    went ahead and done a trans service since it had never been done,and wife wanted it,cost 90.00.
    now i have an anti freeze leak!,guess its going back!
    also my dealer informed me that they do have a transmission software update for the car.cost is 76.00.i will let them do that too when it goes back in.
    i got no warrenty left,so thats almost 550.00 outa the pocket.that hurts!
    o`well,another car repair,another reason to raise our rents! haha
    i`ll post later,the part #`s and trans info

    have a wonderful day!

    P.S. just watched bush take off from our deck here in Hamilton!Ohio,from the school i graduated from!i can look down onto city from where i live.
    he flew right over my house at about 200 feet!

    later all!
  • blondablonda Posts: 542
    I just bought one last week. Works pretty good, but you still have to go over it with a towel to get the leftovers (saved about 15 minutes of drying time though). My slate clear coat scratches very easy and I didn't notice any marks.(Even those "touchless" car washes will sometimes leave fine scratches across my hood by their drying towels--grrrrr). I also am a daily user of the "California Car Duster" which is a godsend for dark colored cars like mine.

    Speaking of scratches on the quarter panel/bumper. I have used that Color Cure with pretty good results also, but I absolutely cannot get off a few paint marks on my rear bumperleft by other inconsiderate drivers in parking lots. Any ideas? Clay bar didn't do a thing.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Thanks for the info on the water blade. Sounds like I need one. You might try a mildly abrasive car polish like Simonize. Not sure how the plastic bumper will handle it though.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    I thought you guys would get a kick out of this. I had an old zoom camera that quit working and was beyond repair so I took it apart just to see what made it tick. Just for fun I put it on eBay. heh.

  • blondablonda Posts: 542
    We need to find you a job!
  • I have a 2001 300M with the upgraded Chrysler/Infinity 11-speaker stereo system. Though I don't really crank my music too high (I'm a 40-something geezer), I'm bothered by the buzziness that I encounter when playing any music with appreciable bass. In playing with the balance and fader, I've figured out that one of the speakers in the front passenger door is shot. However, even taking that into consideration, I'm less than blown away by the low-frequency sound.

    I don't want to go the subwoofer route, but I would be interested in hearing your opinions on replacement speakers for the factory units. Would you replace everything (the front center speaker seems like it would be a pain to get to) or could I realize an improvement by replacing just certain speakers? If so, which ones? What brands give quality sound without breaking the bank?

    I don't want to spend a huge amount of money, but if there's an approach that would give me an appreciable bump in quality for a couple hundred dollars, I'd go for it. If it's much more than that, I'll likely get the bum speaker replaced and live with the limitations of the factory system.

    Thanks for your help.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    Don't worry, I don't plan to make a living $1.99 at a time. heh. Hey, now that I have time we should make plans to meet for coffee or something. If I sell the camera parts I'll treat! :p
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    I've found the infinity speakers to be pretty good, in general. neither the head unit or the speakers handle bass real well, so I'm not sure how much of an improvement you'd get by upgrading the speakers. With my last three cars I kept the stock speakers and replaced the head unit (stereo) with something better and the system improved dramatically. If I were you I'd spend that couple of hundred on a basslink and have the bum speaker replaced by the dealer. Just my opinion. :)
  • I believe a lot of us have complained about buzzing in front door speakers--I think something is vibrating in the door. I brought my to my negative 2* and complained about blown speakers in the front area and they ordered a new set of door speakers. I'll let you know how it works out. If you want more bass I think the infinity subwoofer for about $200 is a great deal.

    SDMike---someone could make a nice collage out of all those small parts---I see someone is willing to give you 95 cents for the parts. Thats more than I would be willing to spend. I have enough junk as is. I guess it would be a good deal for someone in the camera repair business. Good Luck.

  • saw a really nice M&M racing jacket worn by someone at Dunkin Donuts where I am a frequent customer. Had the piks of the candy on it and big M&M letters. Would be perfect for one of our members who has 2 300M's. Probably could find it in a sports apparel store.
  • blondablonda Posts: 542
    I dunno..$1.99 isn't going to cut it. A Grande Latte is going to take you back $3.50. Maybe you can sell your empty Zaino bottles. Someone might be willing to cut them open and scrape out enough for one coat.
  • hmk123hmk123 Posts: 122
    After washing my 300M today I noticed that I have quite a few paint chips on the front of the hood. Guess I should have gotten a bra. Has anyone used touch up paint for those? Or is it not wise to use it on those small chips? I assume waxing won't help on those, or does it?

  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    rstilp,kosh_2258- hey beer store stop before and after.Forget the Labatts, real Canadians drink Molson Canadian.

    sel714 - there are many seams . No way to list them all

    DC sure has some nice stuff coming out in the near future. That Pacifica sure is nice if a minivan is just not your style. I like the crossfire also ,and even with its 215 H.P it will be nice. Bet they raise the power the next year. they always do.Lets just hope they can top all this when the new LX cars come out.
  • jona57jona57 Posts: 192
    I have a 2001 M with the Infinity II system also. I thought I had a blown front speaker, but it turned out to be a loose grill cover. Snapped it back in place & no more buzz. Regarding the lack of bass, I think adding a sub like the Basslink may be the only way to go. I think I get a bit better bass by adjusting the fader to favor the rear (the 6x9's) about 1/4 turn on the dial, and putting the equalizer in a "u"-shaped setting (i.e. bass & treble up, midrange down a bit). Those lower bass octive are still just not there without a sub! I'll prob. add a basslink this spring.

  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    If anyone in southern california wants to see/hear what a basslink sounds like in an M just let me know. I'll be glad to show ya. Maybe if I can organize a vegas meet....
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