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  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    I know your comments are in jest. I enjoy your jabs in this forum and in other (Pilot, Trailblazer...) I am sure there are some Axiom owners who will take you up on the 22" rims.

    My comments are mainly aimed at keepontroopin. I don't believe he is just having fun.
  • keepontroopinkeepontroopin Member Posts: 297
    You are right. I have made some mods and I guess I didn't think about it in the same manner. Point taken and there will be no more jabs thrown. Now get that beast off the pavement and into the woods.
  • yonkuyonku Member Posts: 16
    Wow! lot of messages since my last one.

    O.K. guys, here is what the mechanic at the dealer told me about the jiggling feel on the Axiom.

    He said:

    " The ride feel on the Axiom with the ISC is a known and very common concern across Axiom owners. Many owners have complained and asked about the possibility of altering the ISC setup by software or firmware changes. Isuzu is very well aware of the claims but Isuzu engineers have not responded with solutions yet."

    So there you have it.
    Whether Isuzu will make engineering changes to the suspension is not known
    at this time, but if 2002 is the first and last year for the Axiom, I strongly doubt that Isuzu is going to dedicate their resources to address this problem.

    I've decided to try the Tokicos.
    I will post my results in a couple of weeks.
    Wish me luck!
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    Thanks for the comity, and your advice "Now get that beast off the pavement and into the woods" is very good and accepted :)

    Thanks for the update Yonku, I will be interested to hear about your results with the Tokicos.
  • jonajonajonajonajonajona Member Posts: 3
    One question for you guys? Do you really like it?
  • yonkuyonku Member Posts: 16
    I do like the neat functions that it has, like the satellite linked compass feature and the atomic clock feature as well as the fuel consumption computer. I guess the physical design can be worked out a little and I do think they crammed the buttons too close to each other.
  • axiomloveraxiomlover Member Posts: 216
    Guys,

    I would love to be able to take my Axiom off road and use its abilities off pavement. However, the truth is that I live in Chicago and whether I like it or not, 99% of my driving is and will be on expressways, asphalt streets, through pot holes and construction. I need to drive at least two hours to Wisconsin or Indiana to go off road, but I haven't done it yet. It is rather annoying to have your passengers, your own body and everything else in the truck thrown around as soon as you hit a rough asphalt road. There is a short distance of the road on my way to work that had been dug out and then repaired and it is really bumpy. When I used to drive my Ford Contour through that rough road at 40mph, the car would make controlled movement with the shocks taking the majority of beating. With Axiom at 40mph on the same road is like being in a primitive wheelbarrow with wooden wheels. The vehicle is thrown around like a basketball. It is a very unpleasant and even dangerous experience. Call me "soccer dad" or whimpy, but I think that there is nothing wrong with wanting to have an enjoyable, controlled and jiggle-free ride. Remember the commercial for Lexus RX300, where a couple was driving through a dirt road full of small boulders? The passengers are shown having a nice, relaxed ride, whereas the wheels are going up and down like crazy amortizing every inequality in the road. That's what I would like to experience when driving my Axiom! I know what you are thinking. You are probably saying, "he should have bought RX300." The truth is I really, really like the looks of Axiom and that's the primary reason why I bought it. From practical standpoint, I would probably be better off with a true car-based SUV. Honestly, how many of you are going to use your Axioms in real 4X4 requiring, serious off-road situations, in which a car based SUV would fail and need towing?
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    The MID display is convenient, but it did take a while to get used to. I really like it now.

    Axiomlover
    I hear ya. I do believe the Axiom can be improved suspension wise. I do believe Isuzu didn't spend enough time optimizing the ISC, but the solution could be as simple as replacing shocks so I am looking forward to hearing about Yonku's experience with the Tokicos.

    Honestly, I bought my Axiom for the following reasons.

    I do tow, so I wanted a body on frame vehicle and RWD or RWD biased AWD/4x4. I just don't like the idea of towing with FWD unibody vehicles. Options I looked at were the Axiom, GM triplets, Explorer, liberty, 4Runner, Montero Sport. The latter two have less than 200 hp so I ruled them out. I felt the liberty was too small and I have never been a Ford fan, so I ruled them out. So it came down to the GM triplets and the Axiom.

    I go to the mountains to Ski often in the winter time. The Axiom has the remarkable proactive TOD whereas the GM triplets have a reactive 4WD. Advantage goes to the Axiom. But, the triplets have a better ride and bigger engine.

    I chose the Axiom over one of the Triplets because:
    1. I do intend to go offroad and the Axiom has the advantage.
    2. At the time, and currently, triplet owners have gone through several recalls and there are several quality control issues that still need to worked out. In a year or two, I am sure GM will have the majority of bugs worked out.
    3. Isuzu offered the 10 year 120K mile warranty which is a huge advantage since I keep my vehicles at least that long.
    4. 5 year 0% financing for the Axiom, tough to beat that.
    5. The Axiom's looks are so unique.

    I haven't regretted my decision one bit
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Your kind is the kind that makes Isuzu look bad. See they are trucks and people like you should have a freekin Mini-van. And don't give me the "I will never drive a mini-van" crapolla! Sheesh. :(:(

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    You should probably look into getting some RS9000 shocks that go on the Rodeo for your truck. You can adjust them to setting 1 which is super mooshy and it will ride like a town-car.

    -mike
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Then Isuzu should go back to making "square" trucks, not "styling" vehicles like the Axiom.

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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It can look good but under the skin it's still a truck! :) Just cause someone buys a particular vehicle doesn't mean it's the manufacturer's fault that they bought it for the wrong reasons. This whole arguement would be like me saying that a 4-seat sports car is uncomfortable to sit in the back seat! If I went into the sports car forums after buying a 4-seater sports car and complained about the back seat do you not think I'd be flamed to high heaven?

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    I think Isuzu should fight for the right to produce HPH's (Half price HumVees). Complete boxes to reduce production costs, and they already have the partnership that allows them to use all the pieces.

    Jim
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    Are we still throwing friendly jabs ;)

    The Ranchos would probably be a good idea for Axiomlover if not all of us Axiom owners.

    I read on the Trooper board that you change your settings depending on the condition. I would say your 1 setting is like our comfort mode while your 4 setting is close to our sport mode. You say you use 3 setting for normal everyday driving. The problem with the Axiom is that it doesn't have an equivalent mode to your ranchos 3 setting. I would like, and assume most other Axiom owners as well, an intermediate mode for everyday driving like your 3 setting.
  • axiomloveraxiomlover Member Posts: 216
    Paisan, you have just lost all the respect I had for you that you have built over the last 960 posts. I thought I was dealing with an experienced and respectful member, but it looks like I was wrong! Not everybody likes their potatoes mashed. I do not negate your preferences, rather express my disappointment with certain characteristics of the vehicle I own. I could find as many faults with any other car or truck, RX300 inclusive.
    Anyway, blame Isuzu, not buyers. As an owner of Axiom, I am happy with my purchase, I love the looks, I enjoy the interior and the power of the engine, but suspension simply sucks! The poor suspension was also noted by many official automotive reviewers and although I do not agree with many negative comments they make, they are right about suspension.
    Not everybody lives in the area where a rugged 4X4 is a must. Besides, just as others pointed out, Isuzu marketed Axiom as a luxury SUV to compete with RX300, Toyota Highlander, Acura MDX and even Volvo Wagon CrossCountry. Axiom looks more like a car/Wagon than a truck or even SUV and the interior is also sedan-like. There is nothing wrong with it being truck based, but that does not mean it has to have a jiggly ride. Why are semi-trucks "air-ride equiped?" Does it mean that truck drivers are whimpy and want to drive minivans? What's wrong with having a comfortable and controlled ride? And if people like me make Isuzu look bad, why did I just spend $30,000 on this vehicle and why is my user name "Axiomlover?" In my opinion, Isuzu ought to either compare Axiom to Hummer, Jeep Wrangler and Heavy Duty pickup trucks or make commercials with Axiom going over some serious off-road situations, instead of showing it on the streets and highways.
    Here's a quote from Axiom's website: "A mystery to conventional theorists, the 2002 Axiom redefines high performance, utility and luxury." Let me stress the last word: LUXURY. I do not see how "luxury" and "jiggly" can be used in the same sentence. Unfortunately, Isuzu itself is guilty of creating misconception about Axiom. Enough said!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    By definition, there's no such thing as a "4-seater sports car". Some would limit it to single-occupants.

    ;-)

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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Ok so then I'm gonna go over to the porsche 911 boards and complain about how the back seats are too small to fit my 2 paisanos. Afterall they do have 4 seats and 4 seatbelts, should it not be able to carry them? C'mon we are talking about a freekin truck here. No matter what Isuzu's marketing deptartment bills it as, it's a truck truck truck!!!!!

    Axiomlover I call em as I see em, and I see you as whining about how it doesn't ride like a car, if you wanted the ride of a car you should have bought one. End of story.

    K2m: Yep it would be nice to have that intermediate setting from the factory, but the Rancho 9000s may be your best bet just like the troopa owners had to upgrade their shocks as well.

    -mike
  • drmpdrmp Member Posts: 187
    If you are desperate for more absorbent ride, why don't you gamble your 80 bucks and mail-order Monroe matic shocks (same dimension as 2nd gen Rodeos). If you don't like them, you'll hurt your ego more than your pocket. I bet you'll like it better than the fancy but crappy ISC. Just my 2 cents.
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    What does it take to change the settings?

    I guess my main complaint with the suspension is going over rough roads with a full load. I heard before that the Axiom has pretty soft springs so I wonder if Coil-rites would work well. They seem to be designed to essentially increase the spring constant of the suspension for heavy loads. That way, I could still have the ISC for dampening but the Coil-Rites would increase the spring constant depending on load. Maybe it could even mimic an intermediate setting with the ISC in comfort mode.

    http://www.macsspring.com/website/catalogs/firestonecatalog.pdf
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Can either be adjusted manually via knobs on each shock. Or via in-cab controlers (one for each axle) If I were getting it on an Axiom I'd get the in-cab controller, which gives you infinite adjustments, rather than the click settings the on-shock knobs provide.

    Upgraded springs are also a distinct possibility, except that the only ones I know of are the OME ones for the trooper which actually would go in the Axiom, but you'd get a 2" lift as well as being a bit stiffer.

    -mike
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Nope, those rear seat belts are to keep the golf clubs from flying out on the bumps.

    It is nice to see a few helpful comments about improving one's ride. Does a truck have to ride like one?

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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    By the nature of suspensions, if you have good offroad capability it will have poor on-road/ride qualities. Hence 4wheel indy suspensions are horrid off-road, but provide excellent on-road feel. They are like Ying and Yang, Hot-Cold, left-right.

    -mike
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, I did go rafting yesterday and ran shuttle with my buddy in his 4wd pickup. Did make me appreciate my van for the ride back home :-)

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  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    Isuzu tried to put the intelligence in the ISC. Seems like they could have given a similar setup as what you describe with the Ranchos. The difference is a computer determining the dampening instead of humans. The problem is that computers just aren't that intelligent. By trying to change the dampening inflight instead of keeping it static, the computer actually makes things worse on rough roads.

    I will look into the ranchos, it sounds like it could be a great upgrade. The Coil-rites are basically air springs that go into the center of the exhisting springs to increase the spring constant. They have been around for a while so I will probably look into those as well.

    Thanks Paisan, this is useful stuff.

    Oh, keepontroopin, if you are still reading this board, I noticed you ran off and hid in the Trooper board so you could talk about us Axiom owners behind our back. Awfully big of you :) You must have been the type in school that was only tough if you were surrounded by your friends. I call them how I see them too ;)
  • axiomloveraxiomlover Member Posts: 216
    If you are saying that Axiom is so good off-road and that's why it is so bad on-road, why is it not the off-road truck of the year? 4-Wheeler magazine made some positive comments about Axiom's off-road capabilities, but it was very far from being impressed by it especially compared to other trucks. You are plainly wrong, Paisan! Other brands make trucks, yes trucks, that behave very good both on-road and off-road. Besides, you don't even own an Axiom, so how can you have an opinion about it???!!!

    To others, specifically Axiom owners: Your opinions are very valuable. If there was a better ride possible simply by changing shocks, I would do it regardless of the cost.
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    I have said that in general the Axiom has a great ride, very carlike, the problem of course is when it encounters rough roads, the Axiom feels unstable. I believe that the ride and stability on rough roads will be improved by different shocks or a different shock setting. That said, the ride will probably become a little more "truckish" on normal smooth asphault. Don't look for a cure all shock out there to make it more smooth. If I do replace my shocks, I expect that the ride will be a little rougher than what we currently have, I am just hoping the stability will be better on rough roads.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    How long have you owned your Axiom? How long have I owned, worked on and off-roaded Isuzus?

    Name a truck that is $30K that is better off-road and onroad than the Axiom?

    4-wheeler of the year? C'mon you know that magazines sell those awards for advertising don't you?

    Backup your statements about other makes Trucks that are good on-road and off-road!!!! And to add to that why didn't you buy one of those that is good and and off-road? hmmm hmm?

    No offense but the Axiom is just a cross between a Rodeo and a Trooper with the ISC supension added (which was/is available on the Rodeo) and the body lowered down.

    -mike
  • troop2shostroop2shos Member Posts: 235
    For better rough on-road stability then, you might want to check to see if Bilstein makes a shock for the Axiom. The ride will be more firm / harsh w/ this shock but the jounce / rebound control is outstanding - just my experience in running Bilsteins on my Saab in the past. If they are available, you may need a second jack to compress the shock upon installation unless you are strong. The 100 #'s of nitrogen pre-load per shock will test your strength upon compression. This pre-load will effectively increase your spring rates, as well.
    The SARC (Semi Active Ride Control) struts on my Gen III SHO do a decent job via the computer in being able to handle a variety of on-road surface conditions & stress loadings...BUT, it's still a compromise! Personally, I'd take the higher degree of control & harshness over the mush luxo settings anyday. However, your AWA (audible warning alarm in the passenger seat) tastes may differ! :)
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    That's great I haven't heard that one before :) My AWA doesn't go off unless I need to merge quickly into traffic :) Thanks for the advice and laugh. It is great that we are getting good advice today as Steve mentioned.
  • drmpdrmp Member Posts: 187
    The ride is great if the road surface is smooth or something close to it. When you hit a sharp bump, the shocks doesn't seem to fully absorb it thus jolting the cabin. However, once the going gets rough and you encounter successive bumps, the shocks seems to quit or lose it damping capability and sends the SUV bouncing up and down.
  • g159g159 Member Posts: 23
    Our local paper had some 2002 Axiom 4wds,new, for 22,500 and Troopers for 23 or 24k. I assume they are base models, probably with no factory options, but the Axiom in base version has everything functionally and most luxury items standard. I don't know if these were totally new, demos or others. Just wondered what the going price seems to be. Has anyone driven there Axiom in snow yet? How does it do with the stock tires. One of the things I like is the 10 year warranty, but will Isuzu or Isuzu dealers be here in 10 years? I hope so, but there aren't a lot of dealers and I don't want the local dealers to drop the line, of course.
  • parallaxiomparallaxiom Member Posts: 4
    After reading your posts, I felt so ashamed! I can't believe that I had expected more from my "truck". What a fool I was. But you set me straight. Never again will I think outside the box. I will conform to the point of view that my truck will always ride like a truck. What was i thinking?

    Axiomlover...K2rm....listen up! I have changed my ways and so should you. Do what I did....I have removed the tires on my beautiful luxurious axiom and am now driving on the wheels alone just so I can get even more of that "truck" like ride! I also took out the seats and replaced them with milk crates. It's wonderful...I now feel every bump in the road with such intensity! As a special bonus, the migraines are a constant reminder that I am now one of the elite "truck" owners. I'm one of the big boys now! I owe it all to you paisan!

    (just another friendly jab)

    btw...driving down a wash at 30 - 40 mph in my full size GMC pick up with 60 psi in the tires and worn out shocks runs smoother than the axiom with 26 psi.....i guess my GMC is not a real truck like the axiom.
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    The bashing of axiom drivers by those that love and drive troopers is getting a little silly and so are the responses. by the axiom drivers. We are both very much alike and we should focus on that and trying to help each other enjoy our vehicles. Trooper drivers that post to this forum have made numerous changes to theri trooper suspensions. They most vocal have made the most changes. I have even seen them talk about the improved ride on pavement with each of the changes they have made. I've owned two troopers and think they are great trucks. I changed the shocks on both to get a better ride on pavement. When I did all that nobody here bashed me. I switched to an Axiom because it was a better fit for me while keeping all the Isuzu features that I liked. I now want to improve the ride of the Axiom like I did the Trooper and all of a sudden I bought the wrong vehicle and shouldn't be in a "truck" at all. A little ironic!! Let's stop all this and go back to finding ways to improve all Isuzus. Our population is dwindling and there wil be fewer of us as Isuzus become history.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The only bashing I did in earnest was when Axiomlover said that their CONTOUR took the bumps smoother than their Axiom, and that it should ride like a uni-body RX300! This would be like me flaming a porsche 911 because it can't hold adults in the back seat. Answer this, would I not be Flamed to no end if I were to make such a ridiculous statement?

    I'm all for improved ride, but let's face it it's not gonna get to RX300 or Sedan-like ride. :)

    -mike
  • keepontroopinkeepontroopin Member Posts: 297
    and I am not hiding in the Trooper room, but rather I just got sick of hearing a bunch of school girls whining. Have fun at the INSYNC concert this weekend and my friend told me Billy has a crush on you. K2rm has a boy friend...K2rm has a boyfriend :o)
  • axiomloveraxiomlover Member Posts: 216
    Yes, I would like my Axiom to ride like a uni-body vehicle. If that never happens, oh well, we all have our wishes. I will just have to get used to the jiggly ride. I love almost everything else about this T-R-U-C-K.

    Parallaxiom: I like what you did with your Axiom. To be more like Paisan says we should be, I am going to put these huge tractor-like tires, I will take the bumpers down, I will put a big "Off Road King" flaming sign on both sides of my Axiom, I am going to take out the shocks (I will not feel any difference, anyway) and most importantly, I will throw dirty mud all over my truck every morning before I head for work downtown Chicago, wearing a suit and polished dress shoes. I think it will go hand in hand with my "Off-road" truck. Also, I almost forgot about putting a sign on the back of my Axiom that says: "Do not follow, vehicle may jiggle and bounce unexpectedly."

    Now seriously, Axiom is a great truck/car/wagon/SUV/crossover vehicle, or whatever you want to call it. I enjoy it very much.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hey no hard feelings. Enjoy your truck. And just an FYI, I drive my truck into Manhattan (Wall Street to be exact) on the rare occasion that I have to drive into work. Just so you don't think I'm some gun-toting hill-billy! :)

    -mike
  • scoobyaxscoobyax Member Posts: 51
    Step away for a few days and all hell breaks loose!

    First off, in defense of Paisan, he has given us Axiom owners some useful insite and his opinion here, yes even though he doesn't own an Axiom, is appreciated, at least by me.

    Next, face it for any truck out there you are bound to find something that needs improvement. For the Axiom the ISC settings is one of them. I find it great 90% of the time, it's when things get rough that it becomes a little uninspiring.

    In terms of a bang-for-your-buck truck, I still think the Axiom is best deal out there and I am thrilled with mine. So for any people following these boards who are considering the Axiom, don't rule it out just yet. Frankly I would rather "whine" about something like shocks than have to deal with numerous recalls. Which I believe certain "award winning" truck owners are doing right now, so much for awards!

    As for the AWA (Audible Warning Alarm), I've noticed that as I rapidly increase my speed, it gets QUIETER, sort of like the air is getting sucked out of it. Strange. ;)
  • axiomloveraxiomlover Member Posts: 216
    No hard feelings is right.

    Wouldn't it be cool for all Axiom owners to get together and drive some place as a long convoy? Imagine the looks we would be getting! If Jeep GC owners did the same thing, I don't think anyone would notice, they are so common.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    They have an Annual Isuzu convetion of sorts in Moab Utah. The guys in the NE get together in NJ usually 1x a month, and the East Coast usually has a camping/wheeling weekend 2-3x a year in North Carolina.

    -mike
  • axiomloveraxiomlover Member Posts: 216
    I now have 2,900 miles on my Axiom and I just added about 1/3 quart of oil to the engine. It consumed 3/4 of the distance between max. and min. marks on the dipstick. I presume this is normal.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I burned 1Q every 1.2K miles for the first 10K miles on my 00 Trooper 3.5l, after 10K I went to synthetic and now burn about 1Q ever 3500-4K miles. So that is right in line.

    -mike
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    Who is Insync and who is Billy? I guess I am not up on my pop culture like you are. Was that an insult? Did you sleep on it all night and all you could come up with that one. Come on, you can do better than that. Where are those witty jabs? Oh that's right, that was Paisan :)

    Seriously, have you not read the useful comments by many Axiom and Trooper owners. Are you still refusing to believe that there just might be a problem with the ISC shocks on the Axiom? What will it take to get you from stop insulting people and start offering suggestions like other knowledgable Trooper owners?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Some more thought on this, perhaps there really is a problem with the programming or the ECU on a few of them? Maybe it's not a design problem but needs a software update of sorts?

    -mike
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    I think the problem is that "intelligent" in ISC is a farce. I believe the ISC software or firmware is programmed for the occasional road bump or irregularity, but when the going gets rough, we would be better off without the computer feedback. Maybe a simple switch to put the shocks on an intermiate setting without feedback from the computer so the dampening is constant is all we need for continuous rough roads. Any electrical engineers out ther?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It's by build date? maybe it's an error on *some* axioms but not all?

    -mike
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    The Axiom is still being discounted big time. I think Isuzu is currently offering the Axiom at 0% financing for 48 months with $750 cash back. That said, you should expect to pay invoice or less. I am not sure how much below to expect since the Axiom is selling better than when I bought mine six months ago. As a reference, I bought mine (XS 4WD) for $29,000 with 0% APR for 60 months.

    I have driven mine in snow many times and the Axiom handled beautifully. One of the main reasons I got the Axiom was from what I read about TOD and I do have to say TOD is amazing. On one of my trips I was plowing through about a foot of fresh snow covering hardpacked snow and got further in than what a 4WD suburban could locked in 4Hi.

    It may be true that some dealers may discontinue the Isuzu line, but from what I have heard, you won't have to use that great warranty often.

    Good luck, the Axiom is a great vehicle. Definitely the best value out there for what you get.
  • slockoslocko Member Posts: 111
    edmunds list dealer cash back of $3000 at participating dealers. So you should be able to easily get it below invoice. it ends July 2nd though.

    i am amazed by how much you guys love this car. i am also surprised that isuzu has a reputation for reliability. i didn't know that.

    i am giving it serious consideration. my local dealer doesn't have the high end version. i'm sure if i got to test drive that one i would have been sold already.
  • k2rmk2rm Member Posts: 205
    Yeah, Isuzu owners seem to be pretty pasionate about their vehicles which has obviously lead to some of the infighting on this board recently. I guess I can't fault people like keepontroopin too much :)

    Can we burry the hatchet?

    I wasn't a big Isuzu fan until I test drove an Axiom. I was impressed and surprised Isuzu could have offered such a great product. I don't think I had ever been in an Isuzu before that. Its a good thing their advertising is so poor otherwise I wouldn't have gotten such a great deal on mine.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I was amazed by Isuzus reliability when I bought my '97 Rodeo. It was my first japanese vehicle and I drove it 120K miles in less than 3 years. During that time I did 5K interval oil changes, 1 set of replacement tires, and 2 sets of brake pads, and 1 battery. Zero other maintenance (other than washing) was put into it. And when I got rid of it it still felt like the day I drove it off the lot, and I had put it through a ton of abuse! After that I was sold on the Isuzu products along with the reliability ratings in CR and JD Power & his Associates. :)

    Happy Zuzuing!

    -mike

    PS: We can burry the hatchet if we go offroad to go burry it! ;)
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