Hey carman, You have really helped me over the years. What are the current numbers for a 36 month lease, 15k a year in Florida. I saw your earlier post of 1% rate but the lowest seems to be 1.69%! Residual 58%. Is there $1000 Saturn Owner cash on the Volt? thanks
I know this is an old post, but I'm trying to figure out my own lease offer. I don't see how 411/month is a good deal. NC-driver1 posted the following: 1. MSRP $43,635 2. Negotiated Price $41,060 3. Cash Lease Incentive $2675 - used the cash incentive from your Jan 29 post 4. Refundable Deposit: $197 5. Acquisition Fee: $890 6. Residual value 60% 7. MF 0.00046 or 1.1% interest rate 8. 3% Sales Tax
But what about the $7,500 federal tax rebate. Doesn't the leasing company get that? If so, shouldn't the price of the vehicle be reduced by $7,500, which would lead to substantially lower lease payments (like by half)?
Does this apply to Ally leases on HOV volts in California too? My dealer's lease workup shows the rebate is only ~3600 and has a security deposit in it too. Is this not correct for SoCal this month?
I have been in the market for a Volt and was offered the following deal:
MSRP: 44575 Negotiated Price: 40834.11 Residual: 57% (or 59% with 12k/year) ----Salesperson states that the residual goes down a percent because of navigation. Interest Rate: 2% Tax Rate in State: 7% Aquisition Fee: 795 Miles A year: 15,000
His payements comes to 441/month for 15k year and 416 for 12k/year. I keep running the numbers through a lease calc and it seems like his numbers are off. Additionally, I believe the interest rate is too high. This is a lease through Ally, no money done, no security dep., and first payment waived. Any thoughts?
Hey sheepdog1. I'm glad that I've been able to help you out.
Ally's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 Chevrolet Volt with 15,000 miles per year in Florida are 1.0% and 58%, respectively.
There is a $4,445 cash incentive on leases of this car through Ally. The $1,000 for current Saturn owners is available on top of that.
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Hi mgreenfield. On leases through Ally, the bank pockets the $7,500 cash incentive and it uses it to artificially inflate the Volt's residual value. The realistic residual value for a used Volt several years down the road is nowhere near the percentage that Ally is using.
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Hi vaguy79. I think that you can do better than this on the Volt right now. First of all, Ally's base lease rate on a 36-month lease of a 2012 Volt is only 1%, not 2%. If your credit is in good shape the dealer is marking your rate up on you.
Also, GM is providing a $4,445 cash incentive on non-PCV Volts through Ally right now. You should be able to have that entire incentive deducted from your car's price and then you should be able to eat into part of the $1,500 dealer gross on top of that.
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Hi thematch. Ally's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 Volt HOV without Navigation with 15,000 miles per year are 1.0% and 58%, respectively.
There is a $3,370 cash incentive on leases of this car through Ally.
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Looking this weekend at 2012 volt with premium pkg + nav. 36month lease
MSRP 43030 neg price (TMV) 41316 +dest 850 + aqu fee 795 - incentive 4445 - 1500 (chev owner coupon) total 37016 residule on 15k/yr w nav 57%; 1% interest No sales tax here I run the numbers and get $ 372.76/mo $13419 total cost over 3 years anyone see any errors? I like to have my realistic best deal in my head before I go out to the dealers. Thanks to everyone on this site , always very helpful.
Any ideas when the 2013 Volt is coming out or we can order one from the factory?
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MSRP: 45230 $1072 due at signing (They told me 1000 but in the deal there was $72 left so instead of paying it over 36 months I put it in the cash down) 10,000 miles per year 36 months I added the Bumper to Bumper Warranty... It has a name that I can't remember it. Basically was an additional $625 and they waived the $425 security deposit so a net increase of $200. Base Monthly Payment $410 After Taxes: $435
I went to look at one. The car was fulled loaded with Nav, Leather, carmera Park Assist etc.. and the 'best price' they gave me was $443 plus Tax was $481.00 Same price car. But the kicker was they wanted $2,500 down! I am in California. Is there a way just to get the best price? Do I hire a Car Broker? Car man , what price do I go in with?
Hi Everyone - I've been a reader for a while and I'm about to take the plunge I think. I was offered the following deal - not sure of specifics like what they are calculating for residual etc. but here's what I received:
36 Month Lease MSRP 44,625 Zero Down 15k Miles Per Year $417 / Month including sales tax (7%) So I suppose the base monthly rate would be $390.
From what I can see, this seems like a good deal - am I missing something? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I live in GA - not sure if that matters. Thanks!
I haven't looked at recent lease deals since I got my Volt back in March, but these seems like a better deal then I got back in March.
I pay about $417 after taxes (6%) but I also had to put $1000 down and I only had 10k miles per year on my lease.
I think my total price might have been a little higher though. I think my MSRP was around $45300. It was fully loaded and included a cargo net (not that I wanted it).
Thanks for the super fast reply! I feel pretty good about it - I just hope my credit score is high enough to qualify. I've never made late payments on anything but I think my score is only in the low 700s. I've tried to hold off on any dealership pulling my credit until I score a decent deal on paper.
I'm in Illinois and have starting doing the research on leasing a 2012 Volt. I would like to know if if this is a good deal or not. I personally think I can do better. This lease is for 10K a year and we only drive about 8K!
MSRP is 42,085 with premium pkg and camera, no nav Residual is 25,671 (61%) Interest Rate is 2.0% Rebate is $4445 Sales Tax is 3215 (7.75% I think) Amt. Down is $906 and my monthly payment would be $474
I think I need to negotiate the price a little better maybe down to 40500 and also the interest rate down too.
This newbie needs help but I'm learning tons of things on this board! Thanks!
Hello all - it looks like Chevy is currently promoting a Volt lease with the following terms:
$369 per month $0 down 12K miles per year Tax, title, and dealer fees excluded
Can anyone who leased under these terms share their experience? I'm interested in finding out what my all in cost would be. I'm in California so I know a high sales tax will apply, but not sure what I should pay for dealer fees, for example.
We did lease a new Volt last Saturday and ours was only $345 per month since we got a 10K lease for 36 months. However, our dealer included the tax, title, and dealer fees with that.
We leased at Castle Chevy on Villa Park, IL and are super happy with everything they did. The car has the premium package the rear camera and sensors and the upgraded wheels.
I just returned from my local Chevy dealer in Orlando. I stopped in to buy 2 Volts, one for me and one for the misses. I saw all the ads online first about the Ally special. We picked out 2 with a MSRP of around $45k.
Once I got into financing things went way wrong. They came back with a lease of $1k down & $625 per month for just 1 Volt (12k miles) without credit history. I laughed and said you must think I'm stupid.. I asked what happened to the Ally special, the reply was "oh that's just for the base model".. So $5k in options adds 75% more to they payment? Yep was the answer. Needless to say we stood up and walked out. Oh.. and plus they were giving us 20% less than KBB on our trade.
What happen to fair - not at Courtsey Chevy on West Colonial Dr.
Anyways can someone recommend a fair Chevy dealer in Central Florida that would honor rates discussed on here?
Sorry you had a bad experience. We leased a Volt $45,655 msrp - terms printed on card in window, great dealership but you have to drive to No. Georgia for it. 36 month / 10,000 miles per year, No down with Ally top tier credit, but we did buy the Lease Damage Insurance up to 5K in damage for an extra $500 cash. Probably didn't need it, but it's peace of mind.
$412/month including 6% sales tax and $0 down Amount advertised on their sale card in window, no gimmicks.
From another Volt forum (http://gm-volt.com/forum), Stingray Chevrolet in Tampa has great deals on Volts and people in that forum seem to like their experience with that dealer.
GM/Ally gets the Fed Clean Air tax break (goes to you and I if purchased) but not the whole amount I was told. That's where the $4700 in Ally incentives/rebate called "Cash Received" on the lease contract comes from.
Mine was fully loaded and w/no down the pymt is around $400. Can't beat that for a loaded new car and haven't bought any gasoline yet. The full charge at .12 cents/kwh is about a buck and a half, but if you drive less miles, it doesn't require a full charge. There are retailers starting to put EV fast charge units in the parking lots here in Kennesaw and Marietta, GA which provides free charging - pretty cool.
Go buy or lease one. It's a very cool car and everyone who sees/rides in it loves it. Of course there are always the questions - what happens when... which were the same ones my dealership patiently answered before I took the plunge.
OK folks. I am supposed to go Saturday to sign papers, but this lease deal is starting to seem fishy, especially comparing to others, please offer input!
MSRP - $45740 PRICE - $43982 Money Factor - 1.5% (I thought it was 1% but he said that's only for the advertised $39995 model) Residual - Approx $28542 (when I did the math it came out to 62.4%) VA charges 3.19% sale tax (off of sale price of $43982 - about $1410) Acquisition fee of $795 (where did this come from??) Security Deposit of $400 Dealership processing fee - $379 DMV fees - approx $60 Capital Cost Reduction of $5045
I qualified for top tier credit.
I am putting about $2600 down on the lease and the payment came out to $393/mo.
I know this is the top of the line model (with an extra $1k for paint...it's the only color they have that I like), but $393 AFTER $2600 down seems like a bit much to me.
Blk w/pol. wheels, mylink,bose,leather,camera/park assist 43275 msrp 40775 sale price -4445 ally cap reduction -60% residual 1% apr $375 down (lic and title fees) $327/month for 35 months No sales tax here in OR. Woop! Woop!
Thanks ya'll for the info share...saved me about $1700 from dealer's first pitch...and I love this car!! I'll be back in 2015 to buy gen 2.
I see Chevy is offering a 24 month lease now. Car_man do you know what cap reduction Ally is kicking in, the lease rate, and residual is for a 24 months lease?
I am looking at a 2012 Volt with an MSRP of $43K from a dealer in Dallas. I am confident that I can get him down to $41K. Any feedback on what kind of lease I can negotiate if buying in the next 7 days given these variables? My credit score is > 800 if it makes a difference.
Did you trade in your current vehicle? Not doubting your numbers but they just don't jibe with what I've seen in TX. I have friends that are savvy car buyers that have leased here and in LA and none have seen the sub-$400 deals referenced on this form. Even if I plug in 60+% residuals and 1% APR - neither of which are currently available in TX via Ally - the numbers are well higher than what is referenced here. Just curious where you live and how you are getting such an incredible deal.
Hey there fellow Orygonian! Can you direct me to where you got this deal? I have been looking around near the PDX area and I have received some really varying quotes - differences came from dealer costs and add-ons.
good to know my deal is still decent 3 wks later. more time will tell though as it seems likely the deals are really going to sweeten up come aug-sept as the model year closes out after a slow start to yearly sales goals and now a spluttering economy. July's 24 month lease may be a taste of what will come... I'll call shenanigans when Ally roles out a 12 month lease with the tax credit applied such that some of us get to drive a Volt free for one year. :sick: So, stay dispasionate and don't settle with less than a great deal now.
while the variation in deals between local lots at any given time is small relative to level shifts that might occur over the next two months, which local dealer will deal best varies as a function of current and pipelined inventory, where the sales staff is wrt end of month/quarter sold unit goals, etc.
my dealer is in pdx area, so you should do at least as well by pitching to the one with the highest inventory in the fourth week of the month. be willing to walk away and if they don't later call you back with acceptance, I'd just repeat at end of Aug and again in Sept. given the dark clouds on the economic horizon.
Does anyone have credit score info about the cut-offs for the best Volt lease offers (through Ally), and their minimum credit scores to secure a Volt lease?
Residual: 59% Money Factor: 1% Lease Fee: $695 Tag Fee: $118 Doc Fee: $200 Cap Cost Reduction From Ally: -$5,045 Money Down: $0 (I paid $847 to cover a refundable deposit and first payment)
Monthly Payment: $386 ($422 with Virginia sales taxes rolled in)
I love the car and my commute is about 30 miles round trip so I will buy hardly any gas for three years. Also, came with three years of Onstar and 6 months of sat radio free. Be sure to call your utility company as well as SPX Home Charging (https://homecharging.spx.com/portal/) to see if there are incentives in your area. I was able to get the charging station completely free including installation.
We are looking at buying a 2013 Volt and I went in and test drove one. Love it. Spoke to the dealer about leasing options. I drive around a 100 miles for work each day and am looking for around a 35000 mile/ year high mileage lease. one of the dealers mentioned "impossible" and i should opt for buying the car. Since I'm pretty sure I will be looking for a new car in 3-4 years I'm thinking a lease would be a better option. Do we have any high mileage lease options in Southern California for a Volt? or is this just not possible?
Just leased a Volt with the help of this forum and thought I'd also share what I experienced (A smooth process at Selman Chevy at Orange, CA.)
Model: 2013 Black with Premium Package, Bose audio.
MSRP: $42480 Price offered: $40498 $ up front (including 1st lease payment and security deposit): $ 1200 Residual: 67% Lease Term: 36 months @ 12,000 miles/yr. Interest rate: 1.35%
Monthly payment: $366/mo + tax
I did the initial negotiations via email with their internet fleet manager. The offered price (almost 2K off MSRP) got me in the dealer door. Of course when they found out I wanted to lease, they offered up the monthly payments (low $400's) without showing me the other relevant numbers at first. I Was able to get the payments down as soon as I asked for the residual and the money factor numbers behind their calculations.
Love the car so far, Build quality is indistinguishable from import, and the thing has some zip.
2012 Chevy Volt Loaded with Premium Leather Trim, Navigation, Bose, Rear Park Assist, polished wheels...
36 months; 15,000 miles/yr. $2500 down. $320/mo. including FL tax
Don't really care what they valued the residual at as I have no plans to purchase at lease end. Only downside was having to suck up the vehicle's red accents.
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MSRP: 44170
Miles 20k / year
w/o navigation?
vs.
MSRP: 45215
Miles: 20k / year
with navigation
Would either of these qualify for the waiving of the first months payment, or because of the high miles, is this not an option?
Thanks.
1. MSRP $43,635
2. Negotiated Price $41,060
3. Cash Lease Incentive $2675 - used the cash incentive from your Jan 29 post
4. Refundable Deposit: $197
5. Acquisition Fee: $890
6. Residual value 60%
7. MF 0.00046 or 1.1% interest rate
8. 3% Sales Tax
But what about the $7,500 federal tax rebate. Doesn't the leasing company get that? If so, shouldn't the price of the vehicle be reduced by $7,500, which would lead to substantially lower lease payments (like by half)?
Does this apply to Ally leases on HOV volts in California too? My dealer's lease workup shows the rebate is only ~3600 and has a security deposit in it too. Is this not correct for SoCal this month?
Thanks!
MSRP: 44575
Negotiated Price: 40834.11
Residual: 57% (or 59% with 12k/year)
----Salesperson states that the residual goes down a percent because of navigation.
Interest Rate: 2%
Tax Rate in State: 7%
Aquisition Fee: 795
Miles A year: 15,000
His payements comes to 441/month for 15k year and 416 for 12k/year. I keep running the numbers through a lease calc and it seems like his numbers are off. Additionally, I believe the interest rate is too high. This is a lease through Ally, no money done, no security dep., and first payment waived. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
I was hoping to know what the current purchase price, residual, money factor, money down and mileage is.
Thanks.
Ally's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 Chevrolet Volt with 15,000 miles per year in Florida are 1.0% and 58%, respectively.
There is a $4,445 cash incentive on leases of this car through Ally. The $1,000 for current Saturn owners is available on top of that.
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Also, GM is providing a $4,445 cash incentive on non-PCV Volts through Ally right now. You should be able to have that entire incentive deducted from your car's price and then you should be able to eat into part of the $1,500 dealer gross on top of that.
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There is a $3,370 cash incentive on leases of this car through Ally.
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MSRP 43030
neg price (TMV) 41316
+dest 850
+ aqu fee 795
- incentive 4445
- 1500 (chev owner coupon)
total 37016
residule on 15k/yr w nav 57%; 1% interest
No sales tax here
I run the numbers and get $ 372.76/mo
$13419 total cost over 3 years
anyone see any errors?
I like to have my realistic best deal in my head before I go out to the dealers. Thanks to everyone on this site , always very helpful.
************** I saw this from Magic Boy....
MSRP: 45230
$1072 due at signing (They told me 1000 but in the deal there was $72 left so instead of paying it over 36 months I put it in the cash down)
10,000 miles per year
36 months
I added the Bumper to Bumper Warranty... It has a name that I can't remember it. Basically was an additional $625 and they waived the $425 security deposit so a net increase of $200.
Base Monthly Payment $410
After Taxes: $435
I went to look at one. The car was fulled loaded with Nav, Leather, carmera Park Assist etc.. and the 'best price' they gave me was $443 plus Tax was $481.00 Same price car. But the kicker was they wanted $2,500 down! I am in California. Is there a way just to get the best price? Do I hire a Car Broker? Car man , what price do I go in with?
Do you know if the lease includes or excludes the security deposit like the posted lease special for non-HOV.
Also, if the dealer is only giving me a $2,900 CCR, I'm guessing he's pocketing the $470 difference, correct?
36 Month Lease
MSRP 44,625
Zero Down
15k Miles Per Year
$417 / Month including sales tax (7%)
So I suppose the base monthly rate would be $390.
From what I can see, this seems like a good deal - am I missing something? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I live in GA - not sure if that matters. Thanks!
I pay about $417 after taxes (6%) but I also had to put $1000 down and I only had 10k miles per year on my lease.
I think my total price might have been a little higher though. I think my MSRP was around $45300. It was fully loaded and included a cargo net (not that I wanted it).
MSRP is 42,085 with premium pkg and camera, no nav
Residual is 25,671 (61%)
Interest Rate is 2.0%
Rebate is $4445
Sales Tax is 3215 (7.75% I think)
Amt. Down is $906
and my monthly payment would be $474
I think I need to negotiate the price a little better maybe down to 40500 and also the interest rate down too.
This newbie needs help but I'm learning tons of things on this board! Thanks!
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$369 per month
$0 down
12K miles per year
Tax, title, and dealer fees excluded
Can anyone who leased under these terms share their experience? I'm interested in finding out what my all in cost would be. I'm in California so I know a high sales tax will apply, but not sure what I should pay for dealer fees, for example.
Thanks much.
We leased at Castle Chevy on Villa Park, IL and are super happy with everything they did. The car has the premium package the rear camera and sensors and the upgraded wheels.
Once I got into financing things went way wrong. They came back with a lease of $1k down & $625 per month for just 1 Volt (12k miles) without credit history. I laughed and said you must think I'm stupid.. I asked what happened to the Ally special, the reply was "oh that's just for the base model".. So $5k in options adds 75% more to they payment? Yep was the answer. Needless to say we stood up and walked out. Oh.. and plus they were giving us 20% less than KBB on our trade.
What happen to fair - not at Courtsey Chevy on West Colonial Dr.
Anyways can someone recommend a fair Chevy dealer in Central Florida that would honor rates discussed on here?
Thanks
36 month / 10,000 miles per year, No down with Ally top tier credit, but we did buy the Lease Damage Insurance up to 5K in damage for an extra $500 cash. Probably didn't need it, but it's peace of mind.
$412/month including 6% sales tax and $0 down
Amount advertised on their sale card in window, no gimmicks.
Good luck - they had 4 available yesterday.
2012 Volt with premium pkg and rearview cam pkg
MSRP $42085
15k/yr
0 down
$364/mo + taxes, which brings it to $389.50/month.
Tax, title, dealership fee, destination / acquisition fee all included !
Residual $24409
I live in GA.
$17676 - 13104 = 4572. Where is the other $4572 coming from??? I know about $1500-2000 is price above invoice...what about the rest??
Mine was fully loaded and w/no down the pymt is around $400. Can't beat that for a loaded new car and haven't bought any gasoline yet. The full charge at .12 cents/kwh is about a buck and a half, but if you drive less miles, it doesn't require a full charge. There are retailers starting to put EV fast charge units in the parking lots here in Kennesaw and Marietta, GA which provides free charging - pretty cool.
Go buy or lease one. It's a very cool car and everyone who sees/rides in it loves it. Of course there are always the questions - what happens when... which were the same ones my dealership patiently answered before I took the plunge.
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MSRP - $45740
PRICE - $43982
Money Factor - 1.5% (I thought it was 1% but he said that's only for the advertised $39995 model)
Residual - Approx $28542 (when I did the math it came out to 62.4%)
VA charges 3.19% sale tax (off of sale price of $43982 - about $1410)
Acquisition fee of $795 (where did this come from??)
Security Deposit of $400
Dealership processing fee - $379
DMV fees - approx $60
Capital Cost Reduction of $5045
I qualified for top tier credit.
I am putting about $2600 down on the lease and the payment came out to $393/mo.
I know this is the top of the line model (with an extra $1k for paint...it's the only color they have that I like), but $393 AFTER $2600 down seems like a bit much to me.
Thanks in advance for any input!
Thanks
43275 msrp
40775 sale price
-4445 ally cap reduction
-60% residual
1% apr
$375 down (lic and title fees)
$327/month for 35 months
No sales tax here in OR. Woop! Woop!
Thanks ya'll for the info share...saved me about $1700 from dealer's first pitch...and I love this car!! I'll be back in 2015 to buy gen 2.
Thx
Zero out of pocket $324 per Month for 36 months.
Thanks!
I have been offered:
$1,200 down incl title, plate, and reg)
$306 incl taxes per month
24 months
15,000 miles per year
I was told the money factor was 1%
Residual 67%
What do you think?
while the variation in deals between local lots at any given time is small relative to level shifts that might occur over the next two months, which local dealer will deal best varies as a function of current and pipelined inventory, where the sales staff is wrt end of month/quarter sold unit goals, etc.
my dealer is in pdx area, so you should do at least as well by pitching to the one with the highest inventory in the fourth week of the month. be willing to walk away and if they don't later call you back with acceptance, I'd just repeat at end of Aug and again in Sept. given the dark clouds on the economic horizon.
Volt includes 36 months premium onstar - which is a nice value.
2012 Volt with Navigation, Park Assist/back up cam, and Premium trim package
36 month 12,000/year lease
MSRP on my options: $45,683
Actual Purchase Price: $43, 124 (Total Confidence Price per https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/ip-vpp/ )
Residual: 59%
Money Factor: 1%
Lease Fee: $695
Tag Fee: $118
Doc Fee: $200
Cap Cost Reduction From Ally: -$5,045
Money Down: $0 (I paid $847 to cover a refundable deposit and first payment)
Monthly Payment: $386 ($422 with Virginia sales taxes rolled in)
I love the car and my commute is about 30 miles round trip so I will buy hardly any gas for three years. Also, came with three years of Onstar and 6 months of sat radio free. Be sure to call your utility company as well as SPX Home Charging (https://homecharging.spx.com/portal/) to see if there are incentives in your area. I was able to get the charging station completely free including installation.
Many thanks!
Jonny
Just leased a Volt with the help of this forum and thought I'd also share what I experienced (A smooth process at Selman Chevy at Orange, CA.)
Model: 2013 Black with Premium Package, Bose audio.
MSRP: $42480
Price offered: $40498
$ up front (including 1st lease payment and security deposit): $ 1200
Residual: 67%
Lease Term: 36 months @ 12,000 miles/yr.
Interest rate: 1.35%
Monthly payment: $366/mo + tax
I did the initial negotiations via email with their internet fleet manager. The offered price (almost 2K off MSRP) got me in the dealer door. Of course when they found out I wanted to lease, they offered up the monthly payments (low $400's) without showing me the other relevant numbers at first. I Was able to get the payments down as soon as I asked for the residual and the money factor numbers behind their calculations.
Love the car so far, Build quality is indistinguishable from import, and the thing has some zip.
2012 Chevy Volt Loaded with Premium Leather Trim, Navigation, Bose, Rear Park Assist, polished wheels...
36 months; 15,000 miles/yr.
$2500 down.
$320/mo. including FL tax
Don't really care what they valued the residual at as I have no plans to purchase at lease end. Only downside was having to suck up the vehicle's red accents.