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The good news spreads across Europe, Asia, and North America, as we reckon that six of the top eight automotive OEMs saw decreasing warranty expenses in their most recently completed fiscal years.
1) all of the European OEMs plus Ford and Toyota managed to successfully reduce their warranty expense rates in their most recent fiscal years, 2) Honda is back over $250 per vehicle for the first time in five years, though it still has the lowest vehicle warranty expense rate in the world, 3) Ford has the second-lowest vehicle warranty expense rate in the world, 4) Fiat once again has its warranty expenses under control, and 5) Toyota is now fifth out of eight, after holding second place from fiscal 2002 to 2006, but continues to recover from the massive recalls of 2009 and 2010."
Warranty Week
I would fully expect if I bought a new Mercedes or VW that I'd be in for warranty work of some kind in short order. I don't mean "break-down" but some niggling thing or another.
Sounds like all the Big 3 are doing pretty good with their claims.
Wish we could see Nissan's accrual rates.
That same thought crossed my mind, too...
Pretty amazing since the transmissions keep blowing up all the time according to some posters. :P
and there is a difference between "good will" and technically under warranty.
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No doubt Germans like complexity for the sake of complexity, and my car needed a couple of fettling visits, but on the forums I read, there aren't any real horror stories, or issues greater than mine.
Yes, forgot about those, too.
As I recall the MB claims were well more than 2x the D3. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Perhaps related to that spate of poor quality earlier in the 00's?
The Aztek looks like Maria Sharapova compared to a Cube or a Juke, although few here will actually admit it.
Uh...oby...GM's warranty costs are apparently higher than Ford's. It would be Ford most-likely denying them.
And Ford has had lots o'problems with their new vehicles in the past couple years.
Taste is in the eye of the beholder. I would much rather look at a Juke or a Cube than an Aztek.
I can only speak from experience. Between the '99 vette, '00 Silverado, '00 Yukon Denali, '02 Yukon Denali, and '10 Acadia you can believe that I've heard my share of can't duplicate. so much so that I insist on a test drive with either or both the tech and service advisor. That's when you find out little details like the dealer's balancer can't balance 20" rims.
Boy, apparently.
Warranty work? A recall that was a non issue with my car.
Even for simple jobs too, if you have to replace some little thing like a loose handle or fitting, I am certain it will cost 2x+ as much in an imported premium car than in others.
There must be somewhere that money goes. Perhaps some 1%-ers in Germany? :P
That could be where the problem lies. My most problematic vehicle was the '00 Silverado however knowing one of the dealership principals had everything expedited in fact they went to bat for me on a buyback under the lemon law. I had invested too much time and money customizing the truck and had settled for an extended warranty from GM in lieu of the buyback.
The most problematic dealerships has and still is the "Professional Grade" dealers meaning GMC. I noticed you don't have any experience with those Professional Grade Service Advisors. You might, just might change your tune once dealing with them.
Some tunes were never meant to change, apparently.
The Chevy dealer is a throwback from the '60's and reminds me of a chop shop!"
I can tell you the local Honda dealer service is so much better organized than the GMC dealer 1/2 mile from each other. As for Mazda, I can't know since the CX-9 has not a single issue since inception. :shades:
2013 Nissan Cube-this look is quickly growing on me!
With sales slow and this bodystyle sort of down and out I have a feeling Nissan dealers would dicker down a grand or two. The 1.8L 128 horsepower 4-cyl. with the 6-speed manual transmission is going for $19,740 at a Nissan dealer about 150 miles east of me here in Alamogordo, NM. That is a dealer called Permian Nissan in Hobbs, NM, right by the Texas border. My offer would be at least $2,000 less than that. Nissan is offering $500 cash to the financing pot now for this car. I like it's funky styling and what is said to be a large, cavernous interior, along with it's unusual rear hatch door that opens from the right and swings towards the left. Unusual and Nissan says it is to make the urban load-in and load-out experience easier for people. I also like the front "mini-bulldog" look and, the look in the rear with those thin horizontal taillights. Really a cool-looking CUV to me.
Since trading in the '08 Lancer GTS would be necessary for us a deal anytime soon is not very likely at all, but the little rolling box remains a source of leisure time study pleasure for me. But that's just me.
2013 Nissan Cube 1.8L S - rear view...nice!
Estimates for mpg are 24 in the city and 30 on the highway. Not great but definitely acceptable numbers as far as I'm concerned. I think I could beat those numbers, though.
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However, they had a used '09 on the lot that didn't give me a good vibe. The coloring on the top of the dash, where the defroster vents are, was peeling off. I think it was simply painted, rather than dyed, I guess. A minor thing actually, but it just made me wonder where else they might have cheaped out, in building this car.
Plus, it was kind of a hot day, I was tired, and a bit aggravated from driving my Park Ave with no brakes, in rush hour traffic, to the mechanic to get it fixed. So I wasn't really in a good mood to look favorably at cars in general. And, with all the plastics and stuff in modern cars, when their interiors heat up, they really don't smell that good in my opinion. Hate to disagree with the movie (and novel) "Christine", but that is NOT the finest smell in the world!
I know that everyone comes to the table with their personal biases, myself included, but I simply cannot think of an uglier rear end than that, and I include the Aztek. I am always reminded of a '98 Taurus with a box..literally...placed on the decklid.
Nothing uglier that was actually produced.
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I think the Aztek got that split window idea from the 2nd-gen Honda CRX.
As far as driving, the Cube's suspension is set to absorb urban bumpiness, and here in Alamogordo, NM, the streets they are a bumpy. So I like that fit. The Cube has speed-assisted-power assisted steering, which adjusts steering help for speed. I wouldn't know about that until test drive day.
I am going to continue to study and tuck away knowledge on the Nissan Cube and who knows, one day I may go test drive one.
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PJuke.The '08 Lancer GTS is a tad over 108,000 miles and showing no signs of slowing down. Plus, it's paid off - so trading it in now would really be sillyness cubed. I mean silliness squared.
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I'd say dealership quality has a direct input on perceived quality/owner satisfaction for any make, even if the vehicle build quality is mediocre.
There are 2 Chevy dealers located relatively near me, both about the same distance away. Dealer #1 is a modern dealer, much as the dealership described above. Dealer #2 would find it challenging to change the wheel on a push mower, IMO (and, I might add, in my own experience, as well). However, if you want to talk NASCAR, that's the place to go. It's the one thing they can do relatively well there.
I put it at 75% Honda accounts for goodwill costs under the same ledger number of warranty costs.
I could be wrong, 25% of the time. :P
I think the point people are making is that while Honda's have issues, the problems are rare, even when they get mentioned a lot.
1 - Ford is selling more vehicles at the coasts, and especially in California. People are liking what they are making.
2 - The Cruze redesign is being delayed for a year because the current model is selling so well and GM doesn't want to botch the new model a la the Malibu.
3 - Detroit is the biggest city in the US to go insolvent. I guess the UAW didn't bring prosperity to the area after all.
I don't see your point that the UAW was responsible for maintaining solvency of the City of Detroit. I believe their financial problems go to the problems they built into their city starting in the 60s and 70s along with poor fiscal mismanagement including selling bonds to pay off current spending and overspending. Couple this with city leaders who felt they were above the laws, legal as well as fiscal management laws, and you have collapse. Amusing is that the president claimed to have saved Detroit from financial ruin in 2012. Some blame white flight for the current plight of Detroit, but that is a paper tiger question. Proper management would have a city still operating. But Detroit was not the perfect city.
The UAW is still operating.
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