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Mazda Protegé



  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    It'll help you get under your car w/o scuffing your back-side. Wear safety glasses too as dirt and oil will probably fall on you when you remove the filter.

    I can just get to the oil filter from the top on my 1.6L engine. Got a pair of steel ramps for the next time so I can see if it's easier to do from underneath. At least it'll make it easier to shove my catch basin underneath the drain outlet.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I prefer not to work with a creeper(or dolly as mazdafun stated). I find that a large piece of cardboard works much better as it's disposable if soiled and gives you more clearance. Also, you can slide around easier, don't have to fuss with the crazy caster wheels and you won't roll away on an uneven surface.

  • nematodenematode Posts: 448
    You wrote: "So, if we take into account that we paid $1,335 LESS for our Proteges, the Civic retains only about $565 in trade-in value or $765 average retail after 8 years. I don't think that's such a big difference in depreciation..."

    Even that does not tell the whole story. For example: $1335 invested at 5% interest for 8 years becomes $2000. Thats what I did. I invested the differnce in a FDIC insured 5 year CD at 5.5%. One could also use the $1335 to pay of credit card debt at 9-22% and then its worth even more. $1335 used to make 1-2 house payments is worth even more over 20-30 years. So the $765 basically shrinks to nothing.

    The moral: Good residual values are not a good reason to buy or not buy a car IF the car costs less (5-10%) to begin with AND you are careful with your money.
  • unmarkedcarunmarkedcar Posts: 162
    Hey guys...its been a while since I wrote. I was thinking of tinting my windows. Has anyone done this. I took it to a place that wanted $130.00. They only garuntee it for 5 years. I can do it myself for about $40.00. I was going to get the supplies from AUTOZONE. They sell GILA window film. I was just going to tint upper part of the back window and not the whole rear window. I have heard that you can damage the defoster if you ever have to remove the tint. What do you guys think. I also think that I can take my time and do a better job. I think that some of these places like to rush job it. The guy told me it would take 90 minutes. How can you do a good job in 90 minutes.
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    re:"..some of these places like to rush job it."
    I agree. Makes me bloody nervous. Initially I'll do a few oil changes, warranty required checks at dealer I got it from. I'm not sure how many folks, esp. the younger folks are aware of this but it always pays to put all car repairs, and servicing on a credit card. If you have any hassles w/ the work or parts it gives you legal recourse to with hold payment 'til the work issue is resolved. You pay cash, you have Jack! Didn't mean to wax geezerly good folks.. Dennis MI
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    Cardboard's much cheaper too! Appeals to me. :)

    BTW, thanks for the technical term. The name escaped me at the time.
  • like what yooper said, its on the rear of the block. the old filter was black in color. You'll need to roll your Pro on a ramp, that's what I did. I used those oil filter wrench to unscrew the old filter because you kind of have to reach for it.

    9050 mi. and still zoomin'
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Creeper races! For those who change their own oil.

  • hboydhboyd Posts: 98
    Hey people... long time since I last posted!

    My '01 ES is holding up okay: I still have to go back to the dealer to have the morning exhaust buzz fixed and now the engine begins to "tick" under moderate acceleration. Otherwise the ES is solid at 6,000 miles -- no rattles/squeeks -- and/or breakdowns. Power and braking are very good. A/C is fair at idle but cools very well when the engine is at cruising RPMs. I have noticed one "small" glaring cheapout in the new ES: the black carpeting is very thin and appears bald in a couple places -- especially under drivers mat. Anyone else notice it? :) Maybe I'll bring it to the dealer's attention next week.

    Maltb: Yep, cardboard is great for working under the car!! The tiny Mazda oil filter is a "pain!" to remove... Dealers always install it too tightly.

  • bondobobbondobob Posts: 34
    My MP3 just came into the dealer and I pick it up next week. I've seen the reviews (Grassroots Motorsports had a decent write-up) and have driven the car. While I am a bit older than the intended audience, I wanted a little rice-burner without having to built the thing from scratch. I think it will do nicely for some local autocross, too.

    Question: The First Drive review online here mentions the Kenwood MP3 stereo has being hissy and heavy bass. Understanding that the younger driver likes to boom boom (rather than zoom zoom!) does the unit come with EQ? Are there adjustments on the subwoofer? Just curious.
  • tomcivilettitomciviletti Posts: 207
    I while back there was a post stating that the pro is not a good long trip car. I disagree. I find my '99es comfy and competent on trips of several hundred miles. [with one sticking point... as jstandefer wrote, 5th gear is TOO short. I would like a substantially longer gear or 6th speed]
  • mhallackmhallack Posts: 32
    I haven't found what I would consider an EQ, but there are NUMEROUS ways to adjust the subwoofer. I've been fairly impressed with the stereo, but it will take a little while to figure out how to best adjust it: you do have to have a special degree to read the instruction booklet. ;^)

    It's funny, but the car seems most fun to me with the windows down at 45-55 mph. One of the reasons being that the sound system is fantastic at drowning the wind noise out. Maybe thats what it was designed for?

    As far as being older than the demographic, I understand that it is supposed to be 19-25, but I'm 32 (and have chatted online with some MP3 owners who I believe are older). Maybe Mazda was shooting for the wrong demo?

    There are quite a few MP3 owners over at's forum. You might try there for a better answer to your stereo question.
  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    My cdplayer just ate Lynyrd Skynyrd (circa late '70s)There's no "disc in" indication light, no eject function, no vol, not even am/fm. Hate to go to the dealer unless I have to. Any ideas?? Thanks Dennis MI
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Have any of you had the tranny jerk as you accelerate? It's happened twice in my 2001 LX 2.0 when accelerating from 40mph. There's a sudden jerking motion,rpm's drop, and a loud Klunking sound. Then everything runs smoothly.

  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    Jeez, that don't sound good. If it was me I'd be standing tall at the dealer serv. dept. @0730 tomorrow. Keep us posted. Dennis MI
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Try disconnecting the battery cables. Then reconnect them to the battery and start the car. This might reset the CD player. I saw this done at Lancaster Mazda Toyota, where I purchased my Protege's. It worked for a guy with a Toyota Camry Solara. He had a CD stuck in the player and the guy who drives the dealerships shuttle bus, suggested this fix. Bingo!! It worked perfectly.

    Good Luck,
  • bondobobbondobob Posts: 34
    Thanks, MHallack for the reply. I'm 41 (so way outside the target demo), and would never have bought a run-of-the-mill Protege. However, as I couldn't buy the PT Cruiser with the Touring Options and a five speed, I started looking for something interesting. I bought a 2001 Durango a year ago, but my wife drives that all the trip except for trips. I figured I'd get something that scats and doesn't suck up quite as much ga$.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Take the heel of your hand and whack the dashboard above the CD player (between the radio and the hazard light switch) to get the CD out. My 1999 DX CD player used to do that, and would give back the CD after a good whack or two with the old heel. :)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My 2001 Protege ES would not start on Saturday morning. I was driving Friday evening with the radio blasting and the windows and sunroof open, and the music all of a sudden stopped. I was a little worried, thinking I blew something out. When I went back to the car on Saturday morning, it did not start! I called roadside assistance, and they said it would be about an hour. But some nice person at the hotel I was staying in (company affair) gave me a jumpstart. I drove it right to my dealer after that and left it. They turned it off and restarted it like 3 times, and it turned right back over. They will call tomorrow and tell me if there is anything wrong with it.

    What gets me is that I bought a second Protege (I had a 1999 DX model) because the first was so reliable. This one seems to be a little troublesome (alignment issues, steering wheel was installed crooked but fixed under TSB, and brake rotors warped). I am starting to think I could have got my second choice, the Jetta, and had the same or less problems with it. I still do like the car, but am just a little disappointed with it, especially since I only have 9800 miles.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Thinking about the jerking problem, I recall that both times it was when I was accelerating from 40mph and then let up on the gas pedal momentarily. It could have been due to that, right at the shift point from 3rd gear to 4th gear I let up, and the tranny jerked when I gave it more gas.You can't speed up and slow down at the same time at a shift point. ;)

    Dennis, when you disconnect the battery to get the CD out, you will have to reset the clock and all radio stations. But try it! Better than having the dealer's service people take the whole thing apart.

  • draymond2draymond2 Posts: 134
    Anyone know the new rebate/financing info??
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Last Friday I took my '99 ES in for a four-wheel alignment and tire rotation. With the 0.0% financing available again (and not wanting to spend $2,000 in maintenance and repairs over the next 10,000 miles), I decided to "play" with the numbers and see if it was feasible to trade the '99 in for a 2001 ES.

    They appraised the car for trade-in. Needless to say, I still have $4,100 negative equity even though the loan is half-way paid off. Unfortunately, my car can only retail (realistically, not Kelley Blue Book) for about $8,500, so you can imagine trade-in value. I figure I will be at the 3.5 year mark into the loan before I catch up with depreciation. But this is about right since Mazda predicts 39-42mos before a loan catches up with depreciation on a Protege ES.

    Anyways, they wanted $3,500 down since most finance companies will only finance 120% of the vehicle (tax, title, and license here in California is about 10%). The car I was looking at was a black 2001 Protege ES 2.0 5-spd with the power moonroof, 6-disc changer, perimeter alarm, painted mirrors, wheel locks, and carpeted floor mats. It was a nice looking car, but after taking an extended test drive, I determined it was not worth all that extra money since it really wasn't much of an up-grade (more on that later).

    So I was seriously looking at leasing a 2001 626 ES-V6 5-spd. That was definitely worth paying extra money for with it's V6, leather, wood, Bose sound system, smooth ride, and much quieter interior. Plus, the $2,500 rebate eats up a lot of the negative equity on my car. However, I decided the keep my car until I am nearly caught up the depreciation, and then it's bye-bye Protege. My serious hold-up right now is that Mazda will be doing a product blitz in the next three years with an all-new Protege, all-new 626 replacement, all-new Miata, all-new RX-8, and an all-new replacement for the Millenia.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I've had a similar issue when I am at very low speed (i.e. when turning a corner and going over a speed bump at the same time). When I turn the corner I am in second, but then if I have to go slower, I'll put it into first. At that point, I will let up on the clutch, and when I go to touch the gas the car jerks forward 3 or 4 times. If I depress the clutch it stops. Perhaps this is just driving error, but I never experienced this in my g/f's '91 Jetta GL. I hope it's nothing...let me know what you find out Fowler!

    Also, I took the Pro on a road-trip this past weekend. First, I have to say that I found the Pro to be very fun and comfortable for the trip. Handled great and had lots of passing power.
    Now onto my problem: I was intending to drive the entire trip, but the g/f said she was bored so I let her drive. 30 minutes later, I've got a nice paint chip out of the middle of my hood!!! Where the chip is, there is now way a hood deflector of bra would have helped out at all. Anywho, does anybody have any advice in regards to fixing the chip? Is it best just to put some touch-up paint on? Any advice on using touch-up paint? The chip is fairly small...maybe only a few millimeters across, but it is fairly noticeable. Any advice is appreciated.

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    What is the replacement that is planned for the Millenia? I thought it was dead unless you are reffereing to the Nextourer concept that was shown recently.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    With all of the hype Mazda is putting on the improvements for 2001, I was a bit disappointed.

    Here's what's better on the 2001 compared to the 1999:
    - Quieter (not by much, but it is a very slight-bit quieter)
    - Higher gearing (about 500rpm less at 80mph)
    - Nicer interior
    - Better brake feel

    Here's what I like about the 1999 compared to the 2001:
    - Quicker throttle response
    - Quicker handling response
    - Better sound system (2001 sounds flat no matter how adjusted)

    Basically, the 2001 went through some slight refinement. However, the 1999 fits the zoom-zoom motto much better than the 2001. The 1999 just feels quicker and more nimble. The 2001 has much lighter controls (throttle, clutch, brake), but it always feels like their is a lag time between driver input and the car's reaction.

    In my opinion, the 1.8L has more of a sporty growl, where the 2.0L seems to have more of a groan. I think the 2001 has grown a bit too heavy on the scales. The unibody's extra reinforcement, the extra sound insulation, the larger wheels, the larger brakes, the standard fog lamps, and the standard spoiler all add up and it just sounds and feels like the engine, although larger, is struggling with the weight.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    The Millenia is dead after the 2002 model year, but most analysts are calling for a near-luxury cross-over vehicle for 2004, similar to the Nextourer concept (but hopefully much better looking!). Mercury is also supposed to receive a version of it.

    BTW, thanks for your extremely quick response on Friday. Although I ended up not needing it, I certainly appreciate your help!! Thanks again!!
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    For a paint chip that small (a few mm) some touch-up paint should do the job. It's not going to be perfect, but it'll make the chip less noticeable. The key thing when applying touch-up paint is NEVER USE THE BRUSH ON THE BOTTLE CAP, it's too big for detail application. I've used toothpicks and fine bristle paintbrushs and they do a much better job.

    And if you messed up the touch-up and want to start over, some nail polish remover will easily wipe it off.
  • duntulmduntulm Posts: 4
    Same thing happened to my 01 ES. Just pop the radio/player fuse then re-insert it and the disk should eject. Dealer did this for me without embarrassment. It happened with 2 hrs left on a (boring) road trip. Good luck.
  • mileagemileage Posts: 9
    please recommend tires for a 99 protege
  • momgraymomgray Posts: 18
    Okay, I keep hearing about 0.0% financing, but I can't find details here at Edmunds (they show that the 1.9 for up to 36 and 4.9 for 48-60 has been extended). Can someone else tell me the scoop? What is the term? How long is this offer good for (expiration date?) I even looked on the Mazda site and couldn't find anything. It is in the paper, but you know how informative those adds are.

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