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I've had the Aiwa, and Kenwood, and they have PLENTY of flaws compared to the JVC.
You can get it for like $250 off ebay right now.
Pat, OK, enough is enough! I'll keep lurking over there and keep the commentary (over there, that is) to a relatively low roar. This is the Protege topic, and Proteges we shall discuss. But it is nice to see my friends here having some fun reading posts on other topics.
Oh Lord -- if we can't talk about Daewoos here, and we can't talk about Proteges over there, maybe we need to resurrect the "Daewoo vs. Protege" topic ...
As Mr. Bill used to say, "No! NO! NOOOOOOOO!!!!"
;-)
Meade
P.S. Pat, please, please forgive me for this ... but I can't help it. This from the "Daewoo Bankruptcy" topic:
"a NUBIRA? Sounds like a Klingon warrior woman."
HA HA HA HA HA!!!
OK, I promise I'll be good now.
What can one say about the Daewoo board? I won't post anything about it but it's pretty funny what's going on on that board. Let's just leave it at that as Meade said.
So with this discussion done, we need a new topic/polls. Anyone? It's too early for any ideas from me.
Later.
Q. What's the most fun you've ever had in your Protege? (Let's keep our comments to the FRONT SEAT, please!)
A. For me, it definitely would have to be taking my little 5-speed onto the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virginia last fall. The car begs to be tossed around the twisties, and this two-lane, limited-access road is full of 'em. (The views ain't bad either.)
Meade
Extra credit: How long will Paul keep this Protege?
;-)
Meade
(YOU get ragged on? What about me? Chasing sharks into the water with my tartar sauce and lemon wedge ...)
While I'm at it, let me say that I cannot BELIEVE I found you on the Cavalier topic, telling everyone you are considering buying one for your dad. Are you not the one who flamed Cavaliers up one side and down the other not a year ago, after all the trouble you had with yours? And now you're gonna consider unloading one of these things on your own father? What family love you're displaying! You know, my wife's 1995 Cav is still in the driveway, and I can't WAIT until we can get rid of it! Geesh, only 52,000 miles and it's on its THIRD head gasket, SECOND alternator, THIRD factory stereo ... need I go on?
Do you really love your dad, or is it more of a Hannibal Lecter/Mason Verger relationship?
("Is this Vocus? Well, hello, Vocus.")
Meade
On a side (and very fun) note, I went to the bank just now to make a deposit. On the way back, I had to get off the Capital Beltway onto Route 50 to come back to work. It's one of those up and to the left curve ramps that's rated at 35 mph I think. This guy in a Saturn SL2 (about 1993 or so) came beside me and just though he was going to pass. Not so. I rounded the corner at about 60 mph and clicked the OD off button as I went into it. Clicked again mid-turn, and hit it. What a fun time of ZOOM ZOOM that was!
(Better performance, plus I saved $800! Hee hee hee ...)
ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM
Meade
(yeah zoomzoomzoom)
I manually shift it (but only up, NEVER down) sometimes, but not very often as I am scared of damaging the car. I hit 7000 rpm once by accident, and have to be careful not to do that as it's past the redline. I scared myself, and this funny smell came outta the engine for a little bit too. I hope I didn't damage anything inside the engine. But that was like 2 weeks ago, and I haven't had any problems.
W/O Cruise 0000-88-C07_-KT
Either part should run you about $165 and are guaranteed to give you 5-10% HP increase due to the high performance yellow paint.
I have swampland in FL for sale too.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 01V024000
Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:LINES:HOSE:NON-METALLIC
Manufacturer: MAZDA (NORTH AMERICA),INC.
Year: 2001 Make: MAZDA Model: PROTEGE Recall Date: 02/07/2001
Type of Report: Vehicle
Potential Number of Units Affected: 13000
Manufactured: 07/2000 - 12/2000
Defect Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. SOME LEFT SIDE REAR BRAKE HOSES WERE DAMAGED DURING ASSEMBLY. BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE COULD OCCUR.
Consequence Summary:
BRAKE PERFORMANCE WOULD BE DEGRADED, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Corrective Summary:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE BRAKE HOSE AND, IF NECESSARY, REPLACE THE HOSE.
Pro_fan
'duh'
I believe it refers to all trims of '01's, Duh. Has anybody on this message board been affected by this recall?
PF
I do occasionally hear a slight rattle coming from my fold-down cupholder. Seems the spring has gotten a little weak and doesn't hold it closed with much pressure -- allowing it to vibrate sometimes. I may have to put a little felt pad under it to keep it from happening.
That recall, by the way, has been posted since 2000 and applied to late 2000 and early 2001 models in only a certain VIN range. You would have received a notice in the mail if yours was affected. My 2000 ES (purchased in May 2000) was built in March 2000 and wasn't affected either.
Meade
Meade
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4250&sid=180&n=157
For a better picture of the Mazda 6's interior.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2001/tokyo/preview/mazda-atenza/index.html
This third one shows the 2004 Miata. Now this is a really super looking car! Comparable to the Lexus SC 430 in styling. And check those 17" wheels!
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=3701
fowler3
Meade
Meade
Kinda brought a tear to me eye. ;-)
Then, for fun, I checked out the "Daewoo vs. Protege" topic. I happened to enter it right in the middle of all that debate over "gaps." Remember those crazy times? I had a good laugh. Hey -- there's no need to keep Pat and others upset by rehashing the Daewoo stuff -- it's all been said already, dozens of times over. Just go over to that archived topic and read a few posts whenever you need a good laugh.
Meade
Does Mazda have an AWD system either in production or in development?
All my personal opnion:
The MP3 is nice exercise but it just does not cut it for me. The current street racer out-of-the-box benchmark is the Subaru WRX. AWD, 227hp, 0-60 sub 6 sec range. Its also well below $25k. Its only problem is that, in my opnion again, it looks like the [non-permissible content removed] child of a 1996 Dodge Neon and a late 80s Renault Alliance that had a butt tuck. BUT in terms of performance thats what I'm looking for in the MPS. Anything more than 10% short of that from Mazda would be a dissappointment. Its gotta have RWD or AWD too. I think any more than 160hp/160ft/lb in the current FWD chassis is a recipe for torque steer unless they convert it to RWD/AWD which would solve the problem either way. I just like cars that are balanced during take off and in the curves. Having trouble as to what exactly what I'm getting at: Just imgine your Protege ES just as it is with RWD and 200-220hp. Now that warrants the (S) Sport badge. Any thoughts?
Incidentally, did anyone notice the pieces of carpet that were being used as floor mats. I can't believe someone would pay for the leather seats, and be too cheap to spring for the floormats.
'duh'
Thanks.
Pro_fan
The difference is about $5k between the WRX and MP3. For that $5k you get AWD, ABS, cruise, and close to 3 seconds faster to 60mph while maintaining similar fuel economy and reliability (probably). I think that easily covers the $5k difference. The WRX is a lot of things but I dont think its overpriced for what you get. I decided on the Protege ES over the WRX simply because the WRX is ugly to my eyes in just about every way possible. The difference between the ES and the WRX on the other hand is about $8000. Now thats a chunk of change that gets my attention.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2001/tokyo/preview/toyota-ist/index.html
Except for the ugly dash and Echo-style instrument placement, it's a really nice concept ready for production.
You can view larger pics by clicking the photos, and download them. On PC's right-click, on Macs hold the pointer over the image, a pop-up appears, click Save this image.
fowler3
BTW I (mostly) like the way the WRX looks. The headlights are a little "buggy," but I'll bet the ride is amazing.
I'll bet that the RX-8 will be way too much when it comes to Canada.
fowler3
The ~160 hp 2.3 litre I4 from the Mazda 6 would make a nice protege engine....
We call the folks we're mentoring "tyros".
They hate it.
Which means we love it.
How about the Mazda Tyro?
twist
3700 miles on my Protege and it's doing great although there are a few sporadic rattles but turning up the stereo takes care of those