Mazda Protegé

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  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    ... is that they always leave a film of dirt behind on your paint. They may get rid of much of the dirt, but not all of it ...

    Now, I haven't visited one in a couple of years. But if they've improved, then that means they've improved whatever chemical they're shooting at your car to remove the dirt. And if those chemicals really can remove all the grease and grime from your car without the assistance of a brush or cloth, can you imagine how harsh they must be?

    Here's an analogy -- would you fill your hose's insecticide attachment with Cascade and take a hands-free shower, just so you don't have to use a washcloth or your hand? Methinks 'twould sting a bit ...

    Meade
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    it was the next best 'alternative' to driveway washing didn't I?

    what I do when I use those DIY carwashes is, I only use it to soap and rinse the car, and after I finish washing, I park it on the side and dry it off with towels right away, to prevent any streaking.

    the wheels will never get cleaned by these 'wands' and 'foaming brushes', so after I finish washing the body I use an extra bucket of water and a rag and give it a good ol hand wash and wipedown.

    washing the car semi-clean is still better than not washing at all, isn't it?
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    My car looks semi-clean most of the time, unless the bugs take over the front end. That's the beauty of having white, it hardly ever gets dirty. And most of the dirt gets around the bottom at that.

    I will be going to one of those gas station brush car washes because I want my car to be clean for get-together this Saturday, and I can't wash it myself. It does a pretty good job, and I don't have any visible scratches yet. So that's cool.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I took the liberty (since no one else has lately) and did a tally of what kinds of Proteges are coming to MAPP IV so far. Here we go:

    7 first-generation (1991-94)
    2 second-generation (1995-98)
    9 third-generation (1999-2002)
    14 Protege5
    8 MP3
    1 Sport20

    Total: 41 Proteges!

    Meade
  • townhall9townhall9 Member Posts: 78
    While driving home yesterday, I came upon a section of road where it narrows from two lanes to one. As I slowed, in the right lane, next to a Mitsubishi 3000 GT, I noticed that he was not inclined to let someone in front of him (he was close to the car in front of him). I was resigned to pulling in back of him (or the car behind him), when he looked over at my spotless 02 ES. He immediately slowed, and motioned for me to pull in front of him. I waved my thanks. A few intersections later, when it was my time to turn right (he went straight), I again showed my appreciation by letting him see that his car is not the only one that stays flat, when zipping through a turn. Zoooom.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Since tomorrow is the one-year anniversary of the terrorist attacks, what is everyone doing to commemorate the loss? Here at work, they are having a vigil and silence at the times when the planes hit the WTC. The VP of the US put us on high alert, and said to be careful and vigilant.

    It's been a year already, and I still can't believe those things happend. I still remember driving down 495 in my Pro ES to work (I had it then), hearing that a plane hit the WTC and even saying out loud in the car, "what a terrible accident".
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    As usual. Lame.

    I was in one of those knee-flexing machines. I was shocked. Still can't think about it.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I have a 2001 and just got a brochure from Mazda for the 03:

    Changes so far the 03s are getting on ES trim:

    1. Std. ABS w/EBD
    2. Std. 16" alloys
    3. Std, side blinkers like on Euro cars
    4. Std. leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
    5. Optional Manumatic tranny
    6. New blus colour added (looks like the MP3 blue).

    Get them while you can. For 2004 Ford will take care of some aspects of production apparently, so now is a good time to get one of the few TRUE 100% Japanese cars left on the market.

    Dinu

    These only apply to CDN models.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Price?
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I don't think this (TH) is the place to discuss it, although I would like to. Especially to see what you guys from the US have to say about Iraq, future attacks and the readiness of the "civilized world" as Bush calls it for another one.

    Apparently there are different views in Canada than in the US on the Iraq question and truth be told, the Greater Toronto Area is the 3rd largest urban centre in NA, so Torontonians are more than quite aware of the dangers that looms. I mean we have a nuclear central 50kms from downtown and that really is our main problem since if they wanna strike, we all know, no amount of security will aid, b/c it will happen. Question is not if, but rather when and where. Sad reality, but these are the times we live in.

    As a last aside, I know there are people linked to terrorist organizations living in Toronto and Montreal. It must be. That's another one of my problems.

    As for tomorow, I have school, so I don't know if there will be a ceremony, but I'm sure the profs will say something about it.

    Dinu
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Good question. You know they don't list that in the brochures and teh mazda.ca site is not always the most accurate. I believe it will stay the same as it were in 2001 when we got ours.

    Dinu
  • justdriftingjustdrifting Member Posts: 18
    I'm going to sell my 2000 Protege ES in a few months and I'm wondering what advertising methods people recommend. I gotta do a private deal, so trade-in is not an option :(

    I live in the DC area and was thinking about advertising on Cars.com or CarsDirect.com.

    Anyone have any experience with one or the other?

    Thanks in advance.
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I always sell using the local paper The Toronto Star. Sold 3 cars this way in 3-4 days very quickly. Advertise it for 1 weekend and then wait until the next if it doesn't sell to advertise it again. I get the most $ this way. I would NEVER sell/trade to a dealer: rip-off!

    Q: Why are you selling it?

    Dinu
  • jeffy729jeffy729 Member Posts: 45
    Congrats Parallax! Your Pro looks great. My '99 was that color and it looks classy and hides dirt very well! My '02 is dark red and while I love it, it's a bear to keep clean. Hope you have many more happy miles!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Zoomster and I just got in from hanging one 8-by-15 American flag on Richmond's Downtown Expressway, and 36 2-by-3s on our toll plazas all over Richmond. Been up since 3 a.m. and started work today at 4. Nice to see all the patriotism this morning -- in addition to the gazillion flags flying everywhere, the Virginia Power skyscraper downtown has the lights in its windows arranged to say "USA - 9-11." Nice touch.

    Maybe I'll get to go home early today and watch some of the stuff on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc., etc., etc.

    God Bless America!

    Meade

    P.S. Three years old and 42,500 miles? Wow! I'm at two years and four months with 42,800!
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    I saluted the flag in front of our building on the way in.

    At least the township I live in has smaller flags mounted on light posts and have flags flown at half-staff at civic buildings today. The flags look nice.
  • snagy1snagy1 Member Posts: 55
    with regard to your magnet bra, i have had it for about 6 months and like it alot. just be careful when you wash the car to clean under it from time to time. otherwise, our company is having a mini-company picnic for our employees to reflect on the day's history.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Do you live in Canada or the U.S.? Your profile says "Ontario USA" -- which is it?

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I advertised the one car I ever sold privately on Autotrader.com for free, and it sold within 2 weeks. Of course, now AutoTrader doesn't offer any type of free ad on their site (this was almost 2 years ago I did it).

    I would put an ad in the newspaper, a sale sign in the window, and also something on cars.com about the car.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    As far as your mileage (42,800), I could beat that. If I still had my 2001 Protege, it would have an estimated 47K on it right now. (20K when sold, the 22K from this car, and 5K from loaners in the past couple of months). :)
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Congrats on your anniversary. Only 2 more years until it's totally paid off and yours. :)
  • townhall9townhall9 Member Posts: 78
    Some people find comfort, when feeling grief, by talking about it. Some try to block the pain out, by hiding behind gruffness or indifference. I held a private minute of silence. I am trying to forgive. Remember the wives, husbands, children, parents, etc that lost loved ones. Punish the criminals - yes. Do everything possible to prevent a reoccurence - yes. Forget - no. Fight for freedom of speech, press and religion - yes.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I still remember standing in front of the TV here at work a year ago at about this time, looking in disbelief. I didn't believe it until I went to NY and saw the buildings missing from the skyline that this really happend.

    I remember people in my office, grown executives, crying like children last year. Everyone was. It was awful. But what showed through was the circle of about 20 people, all with cell phones, passing them around to each other so their calls could go through to their loved ones. My secretary telling me I could stay at her home as long as I needed to, since all the roads from DC to Baltimore were shut down and I couldn't get home. Worrying about my dad at work, because he works in a State office building. Thinking about 3 friends who worked in the towers (they are all ok).

    This day just awakens all those feelings again. It also shows how strong the USA is, uniting together to be strong.

    God Bless...
  • shriqueshrique Member Posts: 338
    I work at a defense contractor (doing normal everyday tech support) so I suppose in that respect I'm helping out just by keeping this place running. I also decided to wear all black today. It's small I know but it's not for other people it's for me.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I wore kinda faded blue jean shorts and a red t-shirt. About as close to red/white/blue that I have in my current wardrobe. :)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Red polo shirt, blue khakis and white tennis shoes.

    (I was able to get away with a "casual Wednesday" since I was out hanging flags in the wee hours this morning.)

    Been watching the BBC's website all morning. They have live feeds for free, unlike CNN and MSN which have gone to subscription-only feeds since 9-11-01.

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I didn't know CNN and MSN charged for feeds. That's pretty messed up. I work in a sector of PR (news monitoring) so I have been around the news all day, and am every day.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    ... just informed me that CSPAN has no-charge feeds as well.

    Now, back to Proteges before Pat's wick burns too short ... ;-)

    I had an interesting experience over the last week. Many of you know I traveled from my hometown (Richmond, VA) to the Outer Banks of North Carolina for a vacation last week.

    While there, I had to fill up my 2000 ES. I filled up with Texaco regular unleaded, 87 octane -- the same octane I use regularly and the recommended octane for my car.

    On the way home Saturday, I found the need (or is that "urge") for a high-speed takeover of a moron hogging the left lane in a less roadworthy vehicle. I dropped it into fourth and accelerated, and was astonished to hear my engine PINGING!!! (Keep in mind that my '00 is an ES whose engine was not included in the recall of the MAF sensor that caused pinging in the 1.6-liter models.)

    I heard several more instances of pinging -- not at part-throttle but at full-throttle -- over the last few days. Until, that is, I filled up again last night with my usual Citgo 87 here in Richmond.

    After doing a little research, I think I might have discovered what was up. Because of the EPA and their so-called pollution concerns, Richmond, like most of eastern and northern Virginia, uses RFG (ReFormulated Gasoline) -- the stuff with either MBFE or ethanol in it. North Carolina does not. I read yesterday that ethanol-enhanced gasoline has a slightly higher octane rating than what's on the label. This begs a theory -- and I'm awaiting responses from people like maltb, but don't worry, my finger's off the "ban" key now ;-) -- is it possible that my car's computer, which has become "used" to digesting information based on the RFG here in Richmond, could have had a slight case of octane "hiccups" from its probably first-ever tankful of non-RFG, slightly lower-octane-rated gasoline?

    Like I said, the problem seems to be gone now that I've got Zoomster back on his normal diet of RFG again. Just for fun at 3:45 this morning, I got up to about 80 on the expressway and floored it. No pinging. Weird huh? What do you guys think of this?

    Interesting sidebar -- the car got the best gas mileage it's ever gotten using the non-RFG. A flat 30 mpg of mixed highway (with a lot of high revs) and city driving, all of it using the a/c and with the car packed to the ceiling -- literally -- plus 270-pound me, my wife, and my son. This noticeable increase in gas mileage supports the fact that RFG is supposed to cause MPG to drop 3 to 5 percent. Never realized the few extra miles I was missing! (Hmmm, of course, I did switch to synthetic motor oil just before this trip too ...)

    So when we all compare gas mileages the next time that interesting topic comes up, those of us living in RFG localities need to take the EPA-caused reduction into account! (The list of cities using RFG is available on the EPA's website. I saw it somewhere during my research, but unfortunately didn't copy the URL.)

    Sorry for the long post. But oh, was it on-topic!!!

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Neither one of my Proteges "liked" Texaco gas for some reason. My Bonneville and my Jetta never ran right on it either. I never use that brand.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Route 50 goes past my office in the back, and the direction going into Washington, DC is closed for some reason. No one knows why, but it is. You can come out of DC, but can't go in. Our office is about 15 mins. from DC via 50. I hope everything is ok...
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I'm talking about the differences between RFG and "normal" gasoline used in different areas of the country.

    (I think you realized that, but I'm just trying to clarify my point before someone else takes off on a which-brand-is-best tangent.)

    Meade
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    is supplied all year round by the Sunoco gas station near me. my ES does not like it. It does not ping, but it does not accelerate well. It kind of does not feel happy, ie sluggish while getting off and also when going above 70mph.

    Now the Texaco gas station does not do so. The regualar 87 works great and zooms great into 80mph with little effort and lots of pep.

    go figure ;)
  • boggseboggse Member Posts: 1,048
    Interestingly, when I lived in Charlottesville, my 1998 Cherokee pinged on 87 with MTBE or ethanol, but likes straight 87 from rural NC/SC. In the Triangle, NC we are supposed to get RFG, but BJ's Warehouse Club sells non-RFG, so that is where I fill up the Jeep. Whenever I go to visit my friends in DC or Charlottesville, the Jeep pings, so I try to avoid taking it unless winter weather is likely.

    I find that my 2001 Pro ES feels a little more powerful with RFG vs. BJ's generic 87, but it is barely perceivable. However, I did notice a slight increase in fuel economy with generic gas.
  • townhall9townhall9 Member Posts: 78
    I bought Amoco gas not too long ago, and had to put up with a rotten egg/high sulfur smell. Anyone notice this problem before?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    My ES HATES Amoco gas -- which I find funny since it's touted as such good stuff. All my other cars have always liked Amoco.

    Of all I've tried down here in RFG-land, Citgo regular unleaded makes Zoomster happiest. And to think I used to think Citgo was second-rate -- hey, Citgo is one of the most used -- if not THE most used -- jet fuel provider to commercial and military aircraft! I did some research and discovered that the Citgo gas at your neighborhood 7-11 is just as premo as your Amocos and Chevrons! And it's sometimes cheaper too! So Zoomster's happy, and I'm happy! Life is good!

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Since I've been at work for two minutes shy of 10 hours now (following a 13-hour day yesterday) -- I know, I know, quit whining, Meade -- I'm outta here. Time to go home and relax, maybe with a little CNN or MSN thrown in from time to time. Y'all have a safe and quiet rest of this infamous day.

    Time to saddle up Zoomster and go find some twisties!!!

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    My Proteges (both of them) used to suck down Amaco like crazy, and stink like crazy as well. My VW hates Amoco as well. I use this gas station called "America's Best" or something like that, chesp stuff. The car runs the best on it though. :)
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    I use. getting 5% rebate with Shell credit card I am, hmmmm?
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    I used to use this same deal as well - but recently there was a huge hue and cry over the quality of Shell gas, and the additives, and settling of something, etc. ANyone remember? I'll try to hunt the article down.

    In any case, I now use Exxon/Mobil, 'only' 3% rebate, but I can use the ultra-convenient Speedpass (Shell will come out with something similar soon)
  • justdriftingjustdrifting Member Posts: 18
    Selling because I am tired of driving a stick (especially in DC rush hour) and I'm looking for something more fuel efficient as well. Also more cargo room.

    Although I loved my 323 sedan and my Protege, it's time to move on...
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    this is why Route 50 was closed in the afternoon, in case you haven't heard already:


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3433-2002Sep11.html

  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Where the crap is everyone today?

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I was 2 hours late for work because I hit the snooze button this morning... :(
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    My snooze only gives me nine minutes!

    ;-)
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Ha, ha. Anyway, I hit the snooze button, then turned off the alarm somehow by accident. I woke up and it was 2 hours later. Also, there was bad traffic on 295 this morning, because of the road being closed for paving. So that didn't help me any either.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    ... I've started using a computer-based alarm (cron, for you UNIX geeks) to launch my winamp (actually xmms on Linux) to play a set of MP3s on auto repeat. And my computer and speakers are too far away for me to reach for them and hit any kind of snooze-equivalent ;)

    For those who use windows, you could probably rig something up, like your scheduler or winamp to launch a music file at your wake-up time.
  • snagy1snagy1 Member Posts: 55
    thanks, i'm in ohio, near cleveland area, profile is changed now.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    They have a new "Performance" sub-site with lots of historical and technical tidbits about various Mazda vehicles (6, Pro, RX-8) past and present.

    Just came across it today. Check it out. :)
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