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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    One more group hug, and I am going to upchuck. I can't take it anymore!!! :)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Good luck to you and your wife. With the price you have the Protege selling for on EBay, I am sure you will have no problems selling it at all. Even with the mileage, it shouldn't be a problem.
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    My fifth month old daughter giggles whenever I sing the zoom-zoom jingle to her. She must be a Mazda girl. Maybe that jingle was written with babies in mind. :-)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    ... is stare into my 11-month-old son Sean's eyes and give out a throaty "ZOOMZOOM," and he lets out quite a giggle. On the infrequent days I pick him up from daycare, we have a great time. I found out last Saturday that he loves swerving from side to side as we go down our neighborhood street. Sure, the new Dunlops might wear a little faster doing that ... but what price childhood happiness, I ask?


    (BTW, now we have 20 Proteges and about 30 people coming to MAPP III! And yes, Sean will be there too!)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Quick question for you all...If you've signed a contract/offer, can you still back out of buying a car? I'm not talking the bill of sale here...just the offer...financing approved through the dealership. Thanks.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I am sure you can, as long as it's not the purchase agreement that is signed.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Since Sean and Tammy are coming to the MAPP, I think I will come too. I have been waiting to see that baby since the last MAPP, when he was too young to come along for the ride. It should be exciting. :)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    What would you consider to be the "purchase agreement?"
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    my daughter compares it to a roller coaster on our slightly hilly roads.....and screams when I take the tight turns....

    talking of tight turns, does anybody have a better idea to fix the child seat so that it does not sway when I take the tight turns?
    my '99 ES does not have the hooks on the rear panel.
    I put the child seat in the centre of the rear bench and lock it up using one seat belt.

    any better ideas?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    any better ideas?

    Bungee cords to the assist handles?

    Slow down?

    Leave the kid @ home?

    Sorry, just one of those days where serious is not in my vocab.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    went for annual state inspection today at my Mazda dealer.

    Service tech calls up and informs me that 2/32" is required and u have 3/32 left on ur front brakes. So he recommends replacing the brake pads and avoid any more worries for the next couple of years.

    cost: $189.99
    mileage: 39,500 miles
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    My 2000 has the tether anchors on the parcel shelf. They really help in that department. Offhand I can't think of another way to secure it so it'll be more stable, other than *trying* to do it on one of the sides (as opposed to the center position) so you can use the shoulder harness. But I did that when Sean was in a rear-facing seat and it didn't really help -- in fact it tended to make the seat sit at an angle toward the center of the car.

    Maybe you can get a tether retrofit kit that lets you install a tether anchor on your parcel shelf? Maybe Mazda has some magic way of doing it; maybe (and this is probably just wishful thinking) they can perform this mod of bringing your car up to current child safety requirements for free or for very little cash? I suggest calling your dealership's service manager and asking if it can be done and for how much before you start drilling holes in your parcel shelf.

    Those tether anchors are great. Now, in my wife's 2002 Protege5, she has the new "latch" system, and we were able to install a seat for Sean in her back seat without using ANY seat belts! Man, that sucker's in there like it's part of the car!

    (Of course, both of these installations will be present and available for inspection at MAPP III, if anyone's interested in seeing how a Protege accommodates the next generation of zoom-zoomers ...)

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421

    That's what they call "highway robbery," my friend!

    It's not hard to do yourself for about 1/4 the price ... but if you just don't want to do it, take it to Meineke if you have one around. As I said a few thousand posts back (last week, was it? ;-) ), Meineke put lifetime brakes on my truck and my wife's car a couple of years ago -- they were just as good as the factory brakes -- and the price was MUCH less than what your dealer's quoting you, and this was for ALL FOUR WHEELS. (Plus you get the lifetime replacement guarantee.)

    Shop around. Don't get that done at the dealership unless you've got money to burn!

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Call mazda's 800 number about the tether anchors. I think I remember something about a retrofit being free. Thanks for jogging the brain meade.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    With the new "latch" system, the baby seat does essentially become part of the car. However, I still would not recommend not using a seatbelt at all with it.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    Not only do they attach really securely, but they're (supposedly) identical across all vehicles that employ them, so you can move your child restraint system from vehicle to vehicle without the nonsense of tightening belts and wedging in supports.

    BTW, my daughter's booster seat also flops over when placed in the center. I place the bottom in one of the seat "wells" on either side position and it stays snugly in place. Of course, your child seat may differ, but try it.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I never put my friend's car seats in the middle of either of my Proteges, so I don't know about that. She had her kids a year apart, so we always had 2 of them to take with us. :) I know it's really easy to put the child seat in and get it out. Her seats are older ones as well, and I don't think they have the provisions for the ISOFIX attachments. At least I never saw if they do.
  • goddigoddi Posts: 2
    I would like to know where I can purchase a Mazda Protege5 Service Manual and what the cost is.
    Also, I'd like to know if anyone has found mud flaps for the Protege5, and where if you did.
    Thanks... Gary
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Re: #12312...

    Couldn't have said it better myself :)

  • theparallaxtheparallax Posts: 361
    $189.99 for only the FRONT pads?!?!?! That is a rip off!!! I got mine done at Midas for $89 for the fronts. Even that is high, but your dealer must be smoking crack.

    That reminds me about the time when I was sitting in the lobby at my dealership when the service manager was explaining to this elderly lady that she needed new wipers and it would cost about $40...of course she said alright. I was like...oh my God...
  • curt3curt3 Posts: 101
    It is hard to understand anyone's intentions and I enjoy bantering (is that the word?) with the best of them. It is quite possible that I totally misunderstood the intent of the poster who criticized my decision to both recommend a Protege and turn around and try to sell it 3 days later.

    Nonetheless, I tried to be very candid about my reason for selling the car when I referred to my wife's health--maybe I should have saved this information for Dear Abby instead of Edmund's.

    I do appreciate the best wishes for my better half--she has been quite a trooper in life and amazingly, she continues to work full time. She asked me way back in 1999 to buy the automatic Protege but I was too proud to give up the last bastion of masculinity (the shifter). Marriage is funny, we guys give up the remote control within a few weeks and exchange it for a vacuum cleaner handle.

    Anyway, thanks for the input on the advertisement, Vocus. I got a pretty good offer for the car here in my home town so I chose to pull the car from EBAY since nobody had placed a bid yet--I did notice that it did have 150 or hits while it was out on the web. This is not bad coverage for $ 40.00. Had somebody placed a bid, I would have left it on Ebay. It was a thrill while it lasted.
  • alternatoralternator IndianaPosts: 628
    check out this piece of bloated puffery (along with four nice enlargeable photos):

  • jamhjamh Posts: 11
    I have contacted that dealer in Charlette and he agreed to give me that deal--$100 over invoice and take the rebate off. But instead of ordering the car, he suggested to get the car for me from another dealer. The deal is really good I think. But another dealer closer to me has a red ES and he offered me a slightly better deal. The problem is that the car already has 200 miles on it. And I wasn't sure if it is a demo car or not. I am kind of afraid to get a demo car since probably 20 people already tried their best to test/ruin the car in God knows how many month when it sits on the lot. The dealer told me that the car is transferred from anothe dealer. That may explain the milage on the car a little bit. But, first of all, I don't know if that is true. Secondly, if it is true, why the person requested it to be transfer doesn't want it anymore. Anybody can comment on demo cars or New cars with 200 or more miles on it would be really helpful. Thanks.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Thanks for the link...great pics!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    So quiet in's like a Kinko's on a Thursday night... :D

    Jamh: Sorry I don't know anything about demo cars. My car had just over 4 miles on it when I got it.

    How far away was the other dealer? To get that many miles, they would have to be more than an hour away.

    In terms of it being driven hard by "demo-ers" I don't think too much damage can be done in 200 miles. Check it out thoroughly for any kind of damage.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    What person in their right mind would go there on a Thursday night? Probably some internet addict.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    I heard that!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    You really should make sure you know what you're talking about before you make recommendations in a public forum about the installation of child safety seats.

    This from IHS' website:

    "The ISOFIX or LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) system:

    "Effective September 1, 2002, this new standardized child safety seat system will simplify child safety seat installation and enhance child safety. This system is known as the LATCH system, an acronym for Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children. The LATCH system calls for vehicles to be equipped with one upper (tether) and two lower anchorage points. The upper (tether) anchorage will be a ring-like object permanently attached to the vehicle. Depending on the vehicle, the anchorage (a rigid, round rod) may be located on the shelf or back of the seat, on the floor, or on the ceiling. Child seats will attach to the vehicle seat via these anchorages instead of being held by the vehicle's seat belts."

    The ISOFIX/LATCH system is a better-working REPLACEMENT for using the seat belts to secure a child seat. You do not use it in combination with the seat belts. In fact, there was a warning notice in our child seat's manual to NOT use the belts when you're using the LATCH system -- they can interfere with each other.

    We have the LATCH seat installed in the Protege5, and a seat belt-mounted seat in my 2000 ES (which doesn't have LATCH). Both will be at MAPP III, and I'll show them to you. Even with the seat in my car snugged down with the seat belts, it still moves a little when you push on it. The LATCH-mounted seat in my wife's P5 is rock-solid and feels like part of the car.

    Here's some more info and some pics of the LATCH system:

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Sorry, but I would think using both would make for an even safer install.

    About MAPP, I don't know about coming now. My friend's 30th surprise birthday party is the same day, so I will have to maybe come then leave early. I will let you know though.
  • jbolltjbollt Posts: 737
    or is the TH not responding?
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