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  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    MAPP is the "Mid-Atlantic Protege Picnic." Seems like you wanted a LAPP: "Larry And Paul Picnic." If you're going to be that way, telling us it ain't no fun without Larry, then so be it. Just a word of warning: After that insult to the rest of us, I'd REALLY keep an eye on that Jetta of yours while you're in the shelter chowin' down. I'd keep the parking brake on, the windows up and the doors locked. The park's boat ramp to the Shenandoah River is only a few hundred feet away ...

    ;-)

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Well, I (as doomsayer) am back again. This morning's Wall Street Journal says car insurance rates have risen 8 percent overall since last year, and State Farm has announced a big rate increase for its customers to bring them back in line with the industry -- they had kept their rates "artificially low" for the past few years to attract new customers.

    You'll be finding a surprise in your mailbox when your policy renews!

    Meade
  • snagy1snagy1 Posts: 55
    your right, my insurance went up on my protege from 503 per year to 585 per year for full coverage. whats wierd is that my ford expedition went down and both are 2001's
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Boys and girls, we're really breaking records this time. Here are the latest stats on our May 18 get-together:

    28 people
    18 Proteges
    1 whitewater-bound Jetta

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Go check out the Yahoo! group's homepage pic this morning. I think you'll enjoy it.

    (Snicker, snicker.)

    Meade
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Is it true that the old VW bugs could float? I wonder if VW built that feature into their new cars?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    That was just plain mean. And you could have at least gotten the wheels on the car right. :)

    About State Farm, my policy just renewed for May 2002 until November, and my rates did not go up. I have the house insurance with them as well, so maybe that helps some. But thanks for the warning.
  • snagy1snagy1 Posts: 55
    can anyone recommend a good set of lights, i live in the country, and need a set of lights that will still look nice on my LX Protege.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I just added your pic to that pic.

    ;-)

    Meade
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    No, I meant to put the :) in the post about you being mean. I know it's all in good fun. And then you threw me in the river with the car? Oh good lord! That is funny though. :)
  • alternatoralternator IndianaPosts: 628
    on Consumer Reports' truly weird "Auto Issue" click here:


    http://www.forbes.com/home/2002/03/25/0325flint.html

  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Now that's not right. ;-)

    Just for that, I'm coming to MAPP, but not in the Pro - I'm taking the wife's Grand Prix GTP so Paul and I can do smoky burn-outs around your Pros until our "poorly built, unreliable" cars fall apart. With any luck, mine will die right behind Meade's car, trapping it on the lot. ;-)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Smoky burn-outs? I am not trying to burn up a set of $340 tires to do spin-outs, sorry dude. :) It does sound like alot of fun though... :)
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Well, at least we have that option. Ha! ;-)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Never thought about it like that. :) I used to be able to burn out a little tiny bit in my Protege ES when I had it (but never the DX). I would have to be turning the wheel though, with the AC off and no one in the car but me. :(
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    My insurance went from $642 to $700 in January! And my house insurance went up, too. I started to get AARP car insurance,advertised as LOW for seniors, what a rip-off, it's even higher than State Farm at $900 a year.

    fowler3
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    smokey burnouts in my Pro. I've never done it, but it can be done. If I still had my stang, I'd do smokey burnouts around your GTP until my wheels fell off....in second gear.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Yeah, my Protege did that too on those crappy Bridgestone Poortenzas -- until I purchased a set of REAL tires and now my power gets transferred to the pavement instead of into noise and foul-smelling smoke.

    Pontiac? Hmmm. We had one. A 1980 Grand Le Mans. The only four-door sedan I've ever encountered whose rear windows were fixed -- i.e. no cranks, didn't roll down. By the time we got rid of that heap at the ripe "old" age of 66,000 miles, it was burning/leaking/eating about three quarts of 20W50 motor oil every 1,000 miles. We used to joke about taking it to the gas station to "fill up the oil, and -- uh -- check the gas while you're at it." In fact, that thing caused my dad to have to resurface our driveway from all the oil/coolant/tranny fluid leaks it had. And to think that was my mom's car and she babied it. Oh well, I will admit that cars weren't built as well in the '80s as they are today.

    OK, now I've got to go back into Photoshop and add a Pontiac to the river ... gee you guys keep me busy!!!

    Meade
  • jbolltjbollt Posts: 737
    Hi all, wife and I just back(to AZ)from an extended weekend in Detroit to help our daughter replace her 96 Pro LX automatic. She bought a Sand Mica(she agreed with me that the Emerald Green was too dark) 2002 LX automatic with alarm, wheel locks, floor mats, alloys/moonroof for $100 over invoice, PLUS got $2000 in rebates...(recent college grad)Price paid=$13778 (MSRP $16855) Trade allowance was $4500. The best news? She qualified for her loan on her own! She just graduated college in Dec. (Mom and Dad would have co-signed,if needed, but we are proud of her for having established and maintained credit on her own while in college.

    BTW, her old 96 was bought 1 year old (former Hertz rental!) for $10,800 with 14,000 miles, and other than replacing spark plug wires twice, the car was faultless...well...a little underpowered..heheh
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Yeah, what ever. And if I still had that vette ..., blah blah blah. Point is, if you got it (low end torque) you can use it, or not, as you see fit. If you don't got it, sorry - better luck next time (as those other cars go wizzing by on the freeway on ramp, etc.).

    By the way, the GTP was my car, until I passed it off on to the wife so I could have my Pro (with a stop in her chevy in between until the funds were in place). Even with the difference in low end torque, the Pro is still easily a better car, even before the $10,000 difference in cost.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    If you really do come to MAPP III, you WILL, without a doubt, win the door prize (and there will be one) for the farthest traveled.

    Now, my only concern is how to award the door prize for real ... do we count AIR MILES, or just those who sweated out the trip in their cars?

    (I'm waiting, Dale ....)

    ;-)

    Meade
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    That sounds like your daughter got a great deal! Congrats.
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    ... won't be able to make it, but I've been thinking about trying to get one together for folks out here - Colorado front range area. Anyone interested?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Make it close to the Canadian Border and I'd probably show :D
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    In Edmunds future cars section, they have the redesigned Pro (the more ford-like pro with the new 2.3 inline 4) down as a possibly a 2003 model. 2003 model year seems quite a bit "optimistic" to me, even as an 03 model in 03.

    (optimism in quotes because I'm not sure optimism would be appropriate with respect to a more Ford-like Pro, but we shall see - I'll try to keep an open mind).
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    The Pro does have a lot of low end torque compared to others in it's class. Sure it doesn't have as much as an SE-R or a Jetta 1.8T, but I wouldn't say it has no low end torque. It's all relative. Your GTP has an unusual amount of low end torque for it's class. My point is that it is silly to say your going to bring your GTP and show the Pros "how it's done". That's why I brought up my Stang...

    FWD burnouts are weak by the way.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My 1996 Cavalier would spin its wheels easier than my Protege DX would though. And the ES was not much better. I test drove a Golf 2.0 automatic and spun wheels in it before. That's not hard.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Maybe if it were a bit closer to CA, but I can't do CO. Seems like there aren't many west coasters on this topic anymore.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I'm talking about manual transmission cars. Although I've never done it, and probably never will, I guarantee you I could burn the tires completely off my rims if I wanted to in my Protege. Almost any manual transmission car could.
  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Afterall, comparing the two is a daily event for me 'cause I own them both, just as you have owned a Pro and a Stang. Yes, it is all relative, from car to car and person to person. Besides, the real point of bringing it up was to try to even up the sides a bit with all of the ganging up on Paul and his Jetta. :-)
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