Acura CL

mrdeeeno

i think the clutch is gonna be a lot lower than the parking brake, unless they really mess the design of the clutch.

and people don't complain that the accelerator is right next to the brake pedal either.

i used to have a 5spd daytona with a foot brake and it was never a problem...the foot brake was at least twice as high as the clutch, and the foot brake on the cl is also really high.

canadiancl

In addition to what mdaniel said, 4 pedals would be too many functions for 2 feet

crownking2000

Does anybody have Lo/Jack installed on the cl-s?
The finance lady told me that the insurance company will give a discount if the cops can track my missing car within minutes if it ever gets stolen. I got talked into buying it. Should I return it or is it really worth the $595? Thanks for any input.

fastdriver

crownking2000-

I have Lojack on my CL-S. FIRST of all, contact your police department to see if their cars are equipped to track Lojack. SECOND, call your insurance company to see if they offer a discount for this added feature and not JUST the regular discount for the alarm that comes with the car. I believe that it's a 5% discount off the comprehensive part of your coverage. Also, the Lojack is a PASSIVE device, meaning that you do not have to do ANYTHING to activate it.

This reminds me that I have to call MY insurance company because I'm still not sure if I am getting this discount. There seems to be some major confusion over at AIG as to whether or not this discount is applicable to residents of CT! I got 3 different answers the 3 times I had to call them about something else.

fastdriver

phatnastycat

Have you called your ins. co. to verify that they will give you a discount? Also, I have heard that it is important to make sure that all police depts in your area use the Lo Jack system.
As far as the price, I can't say if that is a good deal or not. I think it comes down to a sense of security. If you sleep better at night knowing your car has the added "security" then it's worth it.

cyranno99

so I finally got my hands dirty to buff up the exhausts. They look nice and shiny now Almost boy-racer image, yikes!

fastdriver

Photopoint.com is up and running again. However, I found a site that is FREE(http://www.cartogra.com) AND has SmashCast movies like photopoint USED to have! Take a look at my Zaino movie here!

fastdriver

pbk77

I know most of you have seen the SEMA acura CL. I was wondering if anyone knew of an update regarding the body kit. I am so interested in it, but it seems any info about it is just speculations. Anyone have news on it?

crownking2000

Thanks for the advise on lojack. They came to my work today and installed for me today.Insurance company do offer discount when you have lojack (5%-25%), the installation guy told me. My agent told me I will have a discount too, but not sure exactly how much, will check back later. Most if not all police station have the tracking computers for cars equipped with lojack. Even though I went ahead and got the system, I still hope I will never use it in the future, same to y'all.

cyranno99

fastdriver - your new multimedia presentation is better than the old one

pbk77 - it is weird that the TL has all those ground effects and all. I've not seen anything available specifically for the CL.

fastdriver

cyranno99-

Thanks. I'm going to make another one in a few minutes with some pics I took in NH on the 4th of July. I'll post the link.

fastdriver

joechicago

It really disappoints me that Acura did not consider making a body kit for the CL! Why does the TL and the new RSX have the option of adding a body kit and the CL doesn't? Is Acura saying that people who buy CL's wouldn't be interested? I would naturally assume that people who buy the CL would be inclined towards the body kit than someone who buys a TL. I've asked the parts manager, my sales rep, the sales manager, and I have also emailed Acura and no one seems to be able to give me a definite answer as to why a body kit hasn't been made for the CL. Acura's response was that there hasn't been customer demand for a CL body kit option. Also, the CL is more of a luxury coupe and not many people would add additional things to it. I say this is a bunch of bs! Sure, we won't make a body kit for the CL but hey, let's make it for the TL instead. Someone at Acura needs to be fired!

lanning

I think part of the problem is the low CL sales. The TL outsells the CL 4-1, and CL sales nationwide are only ruuning about 1300/mo., pretty poor.

blackdog01

I just got my black CLS two weeks ago. Driving the car is really enjoyable. I already put 800 miles on it.

FastDriver. I like your movie and pictures. Your car is REALLY shine.

BlackDog

fastdriver

cyranno99-

I didn't forget that movie I was going to make. I got tied up this afternoon. I'll do it as soon as I finish reading my bookmarks here.

lanning-

People just don't know what they're missing!

blackdog01-

I hear you! I just got mine on 3/28/01 and I already have 6,400+ miles! I can't stop driving it! The shine is courtesy of Zaino! It would look awesome on the black! Click on my name above and you can see more of the Zaino shine on the CL and my previous ride.

fastdriver

cyranno99

I bet that you hold the record for the most info in the TH's user profile

fastdriver

cyranno99-

Not looking to break any records. I just love cars. Always have. I think it's genetic! LOL... It ran in my whole family- aunts, uncles, cousins etc.

Never did that new movie yet because the new site that uses SmashCast only lets ME upload 3 pics at a time. That's a royal PIA. IF I had a PC and not a MAC, then there is software to download to speed up the process and upload more then 3 pics at a time. Glad I have DSL and not 56k! I'd never get anything done.

fastdriver

cyranno99

I kinda notice that - I bet you were born with a steering wheel in your hands

I know what you mean about the upload speed. It took me a while to upload 20MB using DSL to Yahoo.

fastdriver

cyranno99-

What can I say? Some people are born with a silver spoon, I had a steering wheel! ;-))

fastdriver

mdaniel

Here's a link to a thread on Acura-cl.com. Woo Hoo!

http://www.acura-cl.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008631

mdaniel

Here's a link to a thread on Acura-cl.com. Woo Hoo!

http://www.acura-cl.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008631

cyranno99

calm down - you might wet something We can see that you are ecstatic by posting the link twice

fastdriver - I hear ya. That's why I am getting help from the group therapy... too many issues and too little time

ribew

I'm looking into buying either a -

BMW 325ci
Mercedes C230
Lexus IS300
Acura CL Type S

Any idea how much the maunal tranny will cost compared to the automatic? I'd guess $1300 or so?

Just curious...

mdaniel

cyranno99- Well, I am pretty excited but I don't know how it got posted twice. I saw the updated page right after I posted and there was only 1 copy. Maybe my evil twin snuck into my computer when I went out.

cyranno99

mdaniel - yeah.. I am sure that it is a software glitch or the post decided to spawn itself I'd say that the manual would make the car a little lighter so it would shave about .5 of second (max) for 0 to 60. That would be a blast for some peole.

mdaniel

Getting a few pounds off the nose will also help the weight balance. I like manuals for the control more than the speed. I work on Windows PC's all day long. After dealing with the flakey [non-permissible content removed] they pull, I prefer a car that does what I tell it, when I tell it. I don't like having to outthink a transmission to get the result I want.

flwolve9

I own a black 2001 3.2CL Type S. A friend of mine recently told me about a turbochip that modifies something in the exhaust system. He said that it would greatly increase horsepower and only costs around $400 to buy and install. Has anyone heard of this? Also, would the installation of this chip harm the car a few years down the road? My car is fast, but it could be rocket fast with this chip.

mdaniel

I've got a bridge for sale? Interested? There are companies doing chips for the CL, but it just reprograms the computer with more agressive settings. It gives a few HP, but nothing spectacular. I was at a meet last Sunday. I CL-S with intake and chip got smoked by a 1st gen 3.0 CL with intake, exhaust, and a 50 shot NOS. The chip is no big deal.

tomsr

I have 57000 miles on my 98 CL and an extended
warranty to 100,000 MILES. Can I count it being
trouble free? What is your miles? I change my
oil every 3000 miles but I am considering going
to 5000 because some mechanics say that's good
enough.At 90,000 a major service is due and it is
$900 at the dealer. Has anybody used independent
garages for this service and what do they charge?
The only things I would change about my car is
shorten the turning radius and make the rear seat
back drop down for hauling large objects.

cyranno99

Yes, you could extend your oil change interval, but you will have to check your oil more often. Most engines will consume a fair amount of oil by the time they reach the 5000 miles mark. If you want to do this then you might want to use synthetic oil or a synthetic blend.

The 90k service is a little too steep. I'd consider asking around for a reputable Honda/Acura shop. You'd probably just want to change your belts and make sure your CV joints are still good. Of course, brakes and tires should be checked more often....

mayzcraze

I'm in the market for a new car... was leaning towards the CL Type-S, which sounded like a dream. However, these horror stories of poor paint finish (read: chipping) and shoddy panel fitting are making me think twice. I'm also interested in the Accord EX as well as the Solara SLE, both of which are at least 4G's cheaper. Overall, any suggestions... which is the better bang for your buck (I know performance-wise, the CL wins hands-down). Any advice would be much appreciated...thanks!!!

mdaniel

Yes, the paint is thinner than I'd like, but I don't lose any sleep over it. I have 24,000 miles and it still looks great. And for the body panels, just make sure you get a chance to inspect the extact car you get before you sign on the dotted line. If things aren't aligned to your standards, tell the salesman to find one that is.

fastdriver

mayzcraze-

All the cars you mention are winners. Just depends on your needs and how much room you need. I have a 2001 CL-S that I leased on March 28, 2001. I now have 6,600 miles on the car! Way more then I usually have so soon! I have to say that this is the BEST car I have EVER owned! I look for any excuse to get in and drive! I have had NO problems with my paint. No chips. After 4 months with my previous car, I had a ton of chips on my hood and strange scratches here and there on the car that mysteriously appeared. Not so with this car. Some of the horror stories scare me too, but I think if you drive it like you would any other car and don't mod it to the max or look to race every car you see, I don't think you'll have a problem. I could be all wrong, but so far, so good. I have also been to those wand car washes when I first got the car and have not had any problems with the paint peeling off. I have used those same car washes for all the cars you see in my profile and never had paint peel off! That story sounds very suspect to me. Probably someone from the BMW group spreading that rumor! ;-))

Click on my name above and you'll find links to my pics. Here is a road test that Edmunds did on the CL-S-

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/roadtest/44346/article.html

I guess your best bet is to drive them all and see what you think. BTW, I have never gotten less then 300 miles per tank or less then 20 MPG in all kinds of driving. Good luck.

fastdriver

cyranno99

You think that we have thin paints.... just don't ask my brother about his '99 Camry. He got sick looking at the thinning paint on it that he sold it last year. My car's paint is doing ok for almost a year now. Barely any swirl marks... considering that I have not waxed it in three months??

Oh yeah, I've been getting around 25mpg lately. I usually redline it a couple times per tank

canadiancl

As mdaniel said, just make sure you inspect the car before you sign. That was my mistake. I guess I had been spoiled by the usually high quality in fit and finish of Japanese cars. The CL-S was the first made-in-America Honda that I've bought, and I just didn't anticipate that there would be that much difference in workmanship. Well, you live and learn! (But mechanically, it's been flawless so far)

jettson

I just bought a 2001 Accord-EX-V6, beautiful car, fully loaded, but now I'm thinking I may have bought too fast. I didn't even look at Acura's, because I thought they would be out of my price range, but now I see that there is only a few thousand dollars difference between the top-of-the-line Accord Coupe and the Acura CL. Bummer.

I guess I'll wait until the redesigned Acura CL is introduced (does anyone know what year that will be?). In the meantime, I'll enjoy my Honda as best I can and try not to look too longingly at the gorgeous Acuras I see driving by.

P.S. If anyone else has had an experience like this, what did you do?

tomsr

My 98 CL with 57K miles has developed a problem
which disappoints me.The brake light is on but the fluid level is fine.At first it was
intermitent now it is on constant.Guess I'll have
to take it in to the dealer.So much for trouble free Acuras.Anybody else had this problem?

cyranno99

don't feel bad. There are people who didn't think there would be a TL type S and they either missed the boat or trade in the premium model. There are those who would give an arm for a manual transmission and they will take a hit if and when the 6-speed transmission comes out. Yeah, I guess if you are happy with the Accord and the service then stick with it until you feel that you can afford a new ride.

cyranno99

some troubleshooting questions.

The fluid level might look ok, but does your brake pedal feels lighter in certain situation? It might be an internal leak. No such thing as a completely trouble free car, is there? How about your brake pads? Have they been replaced recently?

yhippa

Is the leasing offer put out by Honda Finance on the CL a good deal? It hurts my brain to think about all the factors?

canadiancl

Don't feel bad. The Accord V6 coupe is one fine car. Actually there are times when I wondered if I should have saved a few thousand dollars and gone for the Accord instead of the CL-S. The extra power and features of the CL-S is nice, but I mean, how often does one really fully utilize all of that?

punkoz

I've been shopping around for the CL- Type S. And the cheapest offer I received so far was $28,200 after destination charge. I am in NYC. I was wondering if anyone found a better price (within the tri-state area) and if so, with which dealer? Thanks a bunch.

tomsr

Took my 98 CL in to dealer and they confirmed my suspicions.The switch in the brake fluid reservoir
is bad. Of course it wasn't in stock.Seems like
all the Honda products I have owned over the years
developed electrical problems after 60k miles.
Maybe that's normal for all cars.The plus side
is I got to drive my wife's 2001 TL because she
took the CL in for service. What a difference
75 horses make.

cyranno99

glad you got that issue fixed. I had something like that happened with my old Integra - too much hard braking, I think I had a minor electrical problem with that Integra as well.
You have a four cylinder CL, right?

jettson

Thanks for the words of encouragement. My Accord is nice, but those CL's are absolutely beautiful. Oh well, live and learn...

drrobert

To Punkoz

Did you talk to Park Ave Acura in Maywood, NJ
(near Paramus)

Dave Barysh, a salesman there, quoted me at $28,200. I didn't haggle with him too much, but he said he might go a little lower if it would close the deal.

201-587-9000 ext 211

paducci

my brother just picked up his pre-owned 99 3.2TL with 12k miles on it today. before he picked it up he wanted me to check it out, so i did, and i talked to the dealer that he dealt with. it so happens that i was looking for a car too and i let him know. well, nothing came of it, and so i went on with life.
so today my bro comes back with his car, which is quite nice btw, and tells me that the dealer told him to tell me that he is willing 'to make a deal' on a 3.2CL-S demo that he has. i don't know the mileage, but considering its a demo and assuming it has a spoiler, what kind of prices should i be looking for?

other cars i'm looking at:
02 subara impreza wrx
02 nissan altima
-or-
96 maxima gxe with 110k miles (bro's old car before he got the 99 3.2TL with 12k miles)

any other comments or anything would be only helpful

ribew

Hello -

I'm seriously considering a 2001 or 2002 CALL Type S. How are the maintanece costs on the Aura? Are they similar to the Accord, as I own one and I'm familiar with those costs.

Also, what am I responsible for duing the warranty period? What do the 15K, etc. scheduled manitanence checkups cost me, on average?

Thanks

cyranno99

jettson - maybe a few years from now, you'll have a better looking CL than I do !

paducci - I'd take the Maxima as long as it is still fairly trouble-free. As a recent grad, you should save your money until you have a large enough account to fall back in bad times. The WRX would be fun in the short term, but consider when you have to do maintenance on the AWD and the turbo. The new Altima might be a good choice, but it is a "first year" model. Notice how the old Altimas have evolved through the years. As for your brother, I'd tell him to stay away from demos.

ribew - I'd say that the maintenance costs for the Acura would be a little higher than an Accord. Cost for new tires would set you back more than the ones on the Accord. I'd be careful when doing scheduled maintenance. You don't have to get everything done in the book - my service advisor even told me this. Regular oil change is a must. For example, the 7500 maintenance would have cost me several hundreds, but I know that I don't need some of those things done for a while so I just did the tire rotation and oil change (things that I could have done by myself).

s852

Several hundred dollars for 7500 mile service? I don't think so.