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Acura CL



  • drrobertdrrobert Posts: 8
    I'm considering a 2001 CL-S and have a few questions.
    Any help would be very appreciated.

    1- Price - I was quoted $28,200 w/out nav. (NY area)I didn't even haggle yet. But since this is late in model year, I should be able to do better, what with 2002's coming soon. Anyone agree?

    2- Transmission - I test drove the car yesterday and I noticed the same transmission characteristics as I did with my '93 Legend, and also '88 Civic. I floored the car at about 10 mph and no surge in acceleration, like there's a "dead spot" in the tranny. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

    But the sport shift cures that. The thing is, can you use the sport shift 100% of the time? Can the tranny take hard use on a consistent basis?
    I test drove the Solara SLE-V6 and the auto cranny was super smooth and always ready to rumble. Not sure the CL's tranny is as good.

    3- Handling - The steering seemed a little light.
    I though my '93 Legend handled great, perhaps better than the CL-S, but maybe because of the feel of the steering, which is heavier on the Legend. Any thoughts? Also, I now have '96 RL, (lease is up in a mo.) The car gets a little ponderous over 90 mph. Not so with the Legend.
    How is the high speed handling/stability on the CL-S?

    4- Stereo - The stereo sounded ok, but not quite as clear and powerful as I expected. I would expect something better for a car in this price range. (But it did sound better than the Solara's
    JBL.) Am I right about this?

    Thanks a lot for any advice.
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    You must have driven a defective car. If I floor it at 10mph in either sportshift or full auto, it will downsift to 1st if its not already there. Then it accelerates so hard the front wheels almost come off the ground. And if I keep it floored during the 1-2 shift at redline, the tires will chirp. I have a CL type S.
  • drrobertdrrobert Posts: 8
    Thanks mdaniel

    Yeah, maybe the car was defective. Good to hear that you haven't had a problem. Before I buy the car, I'll check it out carefully.

    What about the handling, is it as good as I've read?
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    I think the handling is very good. My previous car was a 92 Integra GS hatchback. My initial impressions were that the CL has much less understeer than the Integra. Compared to the Integra, the CL turns like its on rails. I've never done any real high speed runs, but it cruises geat at 80. Feels more like 60. I've done 100 a couple of times and it felt fine. My dad has a 94 Legend sedan. My CL blows it away in every respect but one: He can make a U turn in a residential street. I cannot.
  • drrobertdrrobert Posts: 8
    Yeah, I've read about the large turning radius.
    But you cant have everything, I guess.

    Well, the dealer just called me a minute ago to see if i was ready to buy. This may mean I can negotitate the price down. He said dealer invoice was 28,000, and he wanted 200 over that but I checked and it is 27,700. Also, a 2001 should be discounted as it is late in the model year. I'll maybe offer 27,200 and start from there.

    By the way, what color should I go with?
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    I got silver. The choices for the Type S were white, black, silver, red, or gold. I just had a white car for 8 years, so I was ready for something different. Black is too hard to keep clean. Red and gold aren't me. So I got silver.
  • It has been reported on that you can get a Type S in Blue, though most dealer salespeople aren't aware of this.

    I recommend checking out this site, as it has been a world of info to me (someone who is also looking at the CL for my next car).
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    Yes, the Type S is now available in blue. But I think its a 2002. So if you're looking to get a deal on a 2001 because its last year's model, blue won't work. You can have my silver 2001 Type S with navi and 23,000 miles if the 6 speed ever shows up. :)
  • mb710327mb710327 Posts: 9
    Having had both a silver and black colored honda. Silver is elegant and easier to maintain than nighthawk black. But the choice is yours. Can't wait till the 6-speed CL Type S comes out. Can you say 0-60 in just under 6 seconds. Yeah babe.
  • Not every 6 speed is faster than the automatic!

    If the CL Type S has a 0-60 time of 6.7 seconds, then a 6 speed will most likely do it in about 6.0 to 6.1 flat. Just an opinion, but I would put money on.

    I have heard that some auto Vettes are faster then their 6 speed counterparts!

    1990 BMW M3 Alpinweiss II
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    What would make an auto faster 0-60 than a stick? Do you think maybe it only applies to high HP, high torque cars where manually controlling all that power is difficult. Either that, or they blew it designing the gear ratios on the manual.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Well, the automatic that claimed to be faster than a manual comes from Audi. They are saying that their new CVT will be more efficient and better performance than your standard manual transmission. Yup, some 4-speed auto Vettes are almost as fast to 60, but the 6-speed is still better overall.

    But the time of 6.7 sec is not carved in stone - conditions vary.
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    The CVT makes sense since it can hold the engine at max torque and let the car catch up. How much power are they pushing? Honda's cvt is limited to something like 120hp which makes it useless in most cars with decent performance.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Sorry, I can't remember, but someone gave me a link to an Audi website, somewhere on their site, that stated the CVT will be mated to the V-6 in the A4 that will come out next year. We'll see.

    Yeah, Subaru used to have CVTs on their 4-bangers as well.
  • I'd rather have a 5 or 6 speed myself. Just feel like you are more in control of the vehicle.

  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    Obi, I feel the same way. I miss the control and fun of the manual. I can't wait till the 2002 CL-S shows up with the 6 speed. Assuming the rumors are true of course.
  • drrobertdrrobert Posts: 8
    Too bad the blue is not out until 2002 or I would have gone with it.

    From what I've read, the CL-S paint quality is not as good as it should be, and that it chips easily. Is this correct? If so, another reason to stay away from black. What about the stuff I've been reading about, from Zaino? Should I get this?
  • mrdeeenomrdeeeno Posts: 53
    the blue is out for the cl-s. i think it was the replacement color for the pimpgold.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    would diminish the fun of having a manual, IMHO
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    The stories about the paint are true. It is pretty thin. Zaino is good stuff. I use it on my silver CL-S. No wax will deflect stones, but it will make it shine. Silver is a neutral color. It never looks terrible, but it never looks as good as say black or red. See my web site at for some pictures. I've noted which cars have Zaino. That includes my silver on page 3.

    The CL handles well for a big car so I still think a stick would be fun. Not in the same class as an RSX-S or S2000, but still better than what we've got.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    The blue is out now and has been for several months. Finding a 2001 model in this color could be a problem, but the dealer can do a search for one. OR you could get the red.

    Click on my name above to see my CL-S AND that ZAINO shine!!

    As for the paint, I find it 1,000 times better then what was on my 99 Chrysler 300M! I had chips on that THING the first week!

    You'll love this CL. I already have 6,200 miles on my car and I JUST got it on 3/28/01!! Just can't stop driving it! Also, have never gotten less then 20 MPG in all kinds of driving- mostly around town.

    You're better off getting a 2002 model because the 2001 models are already a year old and have depreciated. The BARGAIN you THINK you're getting now, isn't really a bargain. You most likely can do just as well with a 2002 model.

  • drrobertdrrobert Posts: 8

    Thanks for all the advice.

    About the depreciation, this is true, the deal I get on the 2001 is front ended, I'll lose on the back end as the car is worth less when I sell it.

    For me, I'm maybe ok with that, because I plan to keep the car for a while, and money now may be worth more than money later (I hope!).

    Unless you think I can get the same kind of deal on the 2002?
  • How much does the CL-S weigh? That will definately make a difference in how the 6 speed will mate with it.

    If it is too heavy, it will be like driving an 850i with manual (which I have heard is like controlling a whale with a stick!).

    Just my 2 cents.

  • bc01clsbc01cls Posts: 44
    Really no heavier than a Mustang Cobra. Acura CL-S is around 3500# and change. After owning mine for a year though, I think the 5spd auto suits the character of the car. Not a "slot racer" by any means; with the Comptech sways it does very well. I won't be running out to buy a 6 spd version CL for the '02 year since they'll probably be harder to sell in this kind of a car.
    Would be a tick faster though.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    I wouldn't have bought a manual CL-S even if it was available for '01. The CL-S is more a grand tourer than a street racer. The sportshift works just fine for the type of car the CL-S is. I'm not saying a manual is not fun, but it has to be in a smaller/lighter car, something no bigger than a Bimmer 3-series or a Prelude.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Well, I just hope that they could trim the weigh a little more so that they can stick a 3.5L engine without making it as heavy as a Caddy :)
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    have to relocate the parking brake if they put in a 6-speed?
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    Besides the 6-speed manual transmission, that I've already heard about and don't want, what else will be new for 2002?
  • mrdeeenomrdeeeno Posts: 53
    why would they ahve to move the parking brake?

    mercedes has a foot parking brake for their manual cars, except the slk which has a hand brake for auto and manual.
  • mdanielmdaniel Posts: 47
    I'd feel safer if the parking brake wasn't a few inches away from the clutch. I don't have eyes on the bottom of my shoe. I'd hate to accidently catch the corner of the e-brake with the left edge of my left shoe.
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