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Acura CL



  • I noticed on the Acura web site that they are "bragging" about their paint process. Interesting to see how my car will hold up after 8 years.

    I am so used to be surrounded by 4x4 on the road that I just make it a point to zoom pass most of them. Then again, you'll see some crazy drivers in those trucks that would love to tailgate.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    I'm sorry I did not get back to the questions asked about my post on the 2002 prices, changes and on-sale date.

    This info came from Acura's own press release dated 9/5 (the day the cars went on sale). This release can be viewed at (click on industry news, then automotive).

  • I read in the October issue of Car and Driver that the CL will be offered with a 6 speed manual gearbox. Does anyone know when this will be offered and what effects it has on the performance of the car? Will the redline still be at 6800 rpm or will it go to 8000 rpm like the RSX type S?
  • Manual transmission usually means a reduction in weight. I'd guess that the performance increase won't be dramatic, but the fun of shifting will be more for those who want more "control" of their car. I doubt that the redline will change. The RSX Type S is a different car.... Inline 4 and DOHC.
  • Anyone have comments or intel on some of the differences between the NSX's V6 and the one in the new CL-S and TL-S? Very similar? Very different?
  • Well... the Type S is a SOHC engine. A little more fuel efficient because it is less powerful. The oil requirement is about 2 quarts less than the NSX engine. It seems that Acura will make the NSX with V8 in the future. I can't imagine trying to squeeze more power from a six cylinder without resorting to turbo or stressing out the existing components... thereby reducing durability and reliability. Who knows... I want to see a CL with RWD and sporting DOHC. Of course, the i-Vtec would definitely be the future for most Acuras if not all.
  • 64626462 Posts: 14
    I've seen lots of cars drop their 0-60 times considerably when comparing the manual version to the automatic. I bet the manual version of the Type S will be able to hit it in under 6 seconds.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 857
    Good to hear that the 2002 Acura CL is in the showroom. sez they'll get back to me on a six-speed manual shift. Apparently, they have a link to a Bay Area (N CA) dealer.

    Anyone out there have anything additional on the long-awaited six speed?
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    I found carsdirect to have pretty lousy pricing on Acuras. I got my base 2001 CL at Stevens Creek Acura in San Jose for under $26K, which was under invoice, back in April. Cheryl Kaiser at Sunnyvale Acura also seems eager to work with price. I was looking at a TL-S there.
    You may want to check out one of those joints, before clicking "buy now" at carsdirect.
  • another reason manual tranny cars are usually faster than their automatic counterparts is because there is less power loss to the wheels (ie more power gets from the engine to the ground).
  • Now for a real crystal ball question -- Stick shift versions of the Hondas and Toyotas I've looked at are almost $1K less than the automatics. Do you think the same would happen here or that there would be so much demand that it would be higher?
  • since a demand for stick on a CL will be small, I doubt that it would be significantly cheaper than the auto... just a guess though. As I recalled, the six-speed version for the Legend was more expensive... then again, I think they extracted a little more power for that version.
  • According to a member on who owned a 95 Legend 6 speed, he had to special order the thing. They didn't make many of them. Someone said the whole state of Hawaii got 6 manuals.
  • I am interested in a CL-S. Is the rear seat large enough for 2 adults, especially if one seat was all the way back. I am a little concerned about the size of this vehicle. According to the the specifications this car is in line with others but it just seems small. I am coming out of an SUV so I guess anything would seem small.
  • There is plenty of seating room in the rear of the CL-S, but leg room may be a problem if the front seat is all the way back.

    The TL would provide much more comfortable seating if you intend to have four people in the car very often.
  • Its not clear to me that demand for a manual version of the CL would be small. Here in No. VA. manual transmission Maximas (and new Altimas) seem to sell very well. I would think that many of those buyers would consider a CL as well with a manual. There are a whole group of drivers out there (me being one of them) who won't buy an automatic. And we are not all kids. I am 53.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    I don't think that age has anything to do with manual vs automatic per se. Many of the young want it for sure, but I think it all depends on where you live. Being in or near a busy city, would not seem to me to be very attractive for a manual shift.

    8,500+ miles on my 2001 CL-S since 3/28/01 and loving every minute of it. Two dealer visits for oil/filter changes and a tire rotation! That's it! So far, the best car I have EVER owned!

  • you cracked me up... I've never known anyone so happy about a car like you. Let's hope that your car will only required maintenance :) Sometimes I like this car's styling because it doesn't look fast, but you know that it is fast enough.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    I got a letter from my dealer today advising me that I would soon receive the Owner's Survey from Acura. They then hinted that it would be "helpful" if I graded them a certain way. Then the kicker is at the end of the letter they offered me 20 bucks if I brought in my completed survey to them! I'm not really offended by this slightly shady offer. I find it kinda comical.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    High CSI scores equal cash to the dealer.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    If YOU had a 99 Chrysler 300M and went through what I did for the 33 months that I had that car, you'd be THRILLED too with my current car! I know you've been in TH for some time, but I don't know if you ever read my "soap opera" story of the 300M. If you want just a SLIGHT view of the crap I went through for 33 months, click on my name above, sit back and put your feet up and start reading. Then you'll really understand how I feel. Keep in mind, that's just a "partial history" of what I went through with those "award-winning 5-STAR" Chrysler dealers!

    I've had this CL-S for 6 months now with 2 dealer visits. I can't tell you how many visits I had with the 300M during its first 6 months!

  • fastdriver - s'alright, I am glad that you got out of a frustrating experience... or rather experiences with the kind of quality and service from the previous car. BTW, you don't have any rattles? I have some... off and on - not a big deal for me.

    canadiancl - yeah, that's what my dealer kinda told me when I purchased the car. They said... blah blah.. almost like bribing me ... hahaha. I had to rip them since they are the only dealer in town so they have to get better since they don't have any competition. I just want them to be the best dealer in the city... period :)
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    Rattles? My car is as quiet as a church mouse! Try taking everything out of the trunk, glove compartments and door panel storage areas and see what happens. You don't have the sunrood "rattle", do you? They solve that with some kind of tape.

    Turned 8,600 miles last night. Seems to get faster everyday.

  • no problem with my moonroof. This car is just about as quiet as my bro's BMW 528i. I love my car. I don't get tired driving on long distance trips, not like some previous cars that I had.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    I hear you! That's why I have 8,600+ miles on mine in 6 months!

  • Can someone give me a elementary explanation of the differences between rear wheel drive cars and front wheel drive cars. I hear so much that rear wheel drive cars are better handling cars. Why is that? Also, what is torque steer? If rear wheel drive cars are better at handling, why aren't all cars that way? What are the virtues of front wheel drive cars? Thanks for any responses.
  • here's a brief and incomplete list of

    FWD advantages over RWD ( big enough for most car buyers)
    - better traction on slippery surfaces
    - more trunk/rear seat space

    FWD disavantages compared to RWD
    - relatively poor handling
    - not equality distributed weight

    Actually, most cars were RWD before the 80's ( at least, in the US). However, the better control in the wet helped convinced more buyers to consider FWD cars. Of course, you don't see real trucks with FWD. Minivan is another story. So the market dictated the use of FWD.

    I think there are other discussions around TH that go into more details. You might want to do a search.
  • Acura had to refinsh the rear bumper .The bumper started to turn yellow. It was repainted by Acura and now there is a green tint to the white paint.The service rep. told me it is because of the type of plastic that is used in the bumpe. Dont wash the car at a coin machine washer the pressure of the water wand could rip the paint off the bumper. This is an on going problem
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    It's not a lousy paint job, it's a problem with the paint and the compounds in the rubber bumpers. This is a common problem, especially with white, in cars across the board. This has been discussed in the Toyota Solara topic area as well.

    As for the wand washes, I have been using them for years here in CT with no problems on any of my cars for as long as I can remember. Maybe some are more harmful than others? I've never lost any paint on any car from these car washes.

  • I'd never consider washing a new car at an automated washer. High pressure washers are bad for any car...
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