Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

tomh12

Saved the day for his Dad....
Now saving the day for his Mom....
Good job, Ryan. Only think that could use some work is his fishing. Fish don't care if it's raining...LOL
Happy Mother's day to all you Mothers!
Tom

ryanbab

Raining? I could fish in the rain but not terential downpours. I didnt even buy a fishing license (last yr they were $8.25 this yr they are $14.25 WTF!!!)

Rain stopped but we are still taking on water

What a weekend.

bamatundra

Why does GM insist that new truck engines knocking is normal? Does this mean that any new truck buyer could potentially get a knocker and GM will say "Tough Luck!!"

I would say that this should be a strong deterrent to anyone wishing to buy a new Silverado. If only GM knew how to build a "full size" truck.

tomh12

See what I mean.....
A Tundra owner obviously upset because they bought an underperforming, small, wanna be 1/2 ton Tundra, adding nothing to this discussion.
I understand his disappointment. I almost bought one until I realized the bed was pint sized, the towing rating was minimal, the back seat was a joke, the rear brakes were drums, no snow plows available, no optional V8 engine (4.7 or V6, take it or leave it), could not get factory tow package (1st year), no LSD (1st year), and on and on. Just no work in them now.....but they sure do SHINE!
Good luck on this one, now!
Tom

bamatundra

Gee - I don't think that I ever mentioned a Tundra in this topic - YOU DID.

I know you are angry over buying a GM knocker, but I don't think that Tundras fit in this topic. You might want to check the title of the topic again!

Good Luck on this one now!

mgdvhman

Of Course I have The Hurts/Olds still . Had it out Friday for a spring cruise. Going to use it lots more ....or I'm selling it!.....(been saying that for years...LOL)

- Tim

Kirstie_H

A journalist is looking for someone who bought one "twin" over another where the manufacturer offers two or more vehicles based on the same basic platform. (a Maxima vs. an I35 (or I30) or the TL vs. Accord)
Did you know it was basically the same vehicle as the other?
Why did you choose it over the other?
Please submit your response to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, May 15.

tomh12

Might want to check the spelling of your name....
BamaTUNDRA. LOL

FYI, I am VERY satisfied with my 2001 GMC. Best truck on the road, IMO! Lots of options that I could CHOOSE or not CHOOSE, unlike some manufacturers. Plenty of engine choices with plenty of power. Manual or Auto. 4 wheel disc W/ABS, full sized bed, ROOMY extended cab, runs great, handles great. Thanks for asking.
Tom

bamatundra

I don't remember asking. I am glad that you are happy with your knocker.

I don't think that I can change my logon name depending on what topic I post to. I will ask the moderator about this.

mgdvhman

is F150Rules back......and it will be just like old times!

(No wonder everybody left)

- Tim

whatsachevy

Can't you block someone from a particular thread? If not, may I make a suggestion for your next upgrade. Some folks on these threads use them for a meaningful exchange of useful information. Others, I'm not sure what they are doing. The likes of one recent unnamed poster can add no value to this thread. He seems to enjoy sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Hopefully, you can intervene before he gets another one of our GM sites shut down. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time.

ryanbab

Tim no one left everyone is out enjoying their trucks and living their lives.

26K miles and loving each one. Does everything i need it to do.

hillhound

In spite of the knocking problems on some GM pickups, they still don't appear on the Lemon List:

http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html

...but the Tundra sure does!! In fact, it's the only Toymota vehicle that does. What happened? Toyota used to know how to build quality vehicles!! Is it true Toymota is introducing a new yellow paint scheme for the Tundra? Should be a big seller!

bamatundra

Since the GM lemonado is not on the list - doesn't it mean that it is a few hundred vehicles below the list? Aren't you admitting that the Tundra is a much better than your lemonado? Man! these Chev zealots don't seem to make much sense sometimes!

hillhound

"Since the GM lemonado is not on the list - doesn't it mean that it is a few hundred vehicles below the list? Aren't you admitting that the Tundra is a much better than your lemonado? Man! these Chev zealots don't seem to make much sense sometimes!"

Maybe...I dunno. But then again my simple hillbilly brain seldom comprehends your enlightened logic. Where ever the GM 1500 is listed at-it's lower on the list than than your Tundra, isn't it? Aren't you admitting that the Tundra has had more compliants per unit sold than the Chevy per units sold?

Let's see if I'm getting this straight, Bama. The Tundra sells a fraction as many trucks as GM's 1500s. The little Tundra is outperformed by GM's 1500s in just about every aspect by which 1/2 ton pickups are measued. And the Tundra appears as number 23/25 on a NHTSA lemon list-the only fullsize pickup that does!

Yeah Bama...I'm beginning to see the light! LOL! What's not to love?? Chill out and have some lemonade-you sure paid enough for it!

bamatundra

Aren't you forgetting that the measure is complaints per vehicle produced.

Here is a pop quiz for you - If the Lemonado sells five times as many trucks, but has five times as many problems per truck as the Tundra - Which is the better truck?

Be careful - this is a trick question for GM zealots!

hillhound

"The complaint index is based on a ratio of the number of complaints for each vehicle to the sales of that vehicle."

#complaints/#Tundras sold=Lemonundras

#complaints/#GMs sold=GMs not on top 25 lemon list

That's why they factored in sales and not just complaints. The Tundra had more complaints per truck sold (not produced as you claim) than any other fullsize pickup.

bamatundra

Where did the Lemonado wind up on the list. You seem to conveniently forget this. Didn't the Tundra finish higher than your lemonado? Man, sometimes you have to hit these GM zealots over the head with the facts!

hillhound

Forget what? That the Silverado didn't end up on a top 25 lemon list that ranks vehicles based on a ratio of the number of complaints for each vehicle to the sales of that vehicle.

Stop it already-you nearly made me choke on my TV dinner with these last few futile posts!!

mgdvhman

Tundra fans favorite things to hear are....

"cuz them yuppy's be thinkin' them be full sized......truth is.....Tundra = less truck for more buck"

Good luck on this one now!

- Rube Tim

bamatundra

The F150 ended up on the top of the list. Where did the Lemonado end up? This is a trick question for Lemonado zealots.

Is this too painful for you? This is a simple question.

PF_Flyer

This is stopping NOW...

If you need to post insulting nicknames for the other guys truck to make your point, you need to find another way to make your point or take it someplace else.

Notes making reference to Lemonado, Tindra, Shakerado, etc... are not approriate.

Disagree all you want about the trucks, but keep it civil.

tomh12

You seem to have overlooked closing this topic. I'm sure you did not overlook this one just because there is only ONE out of line poster here and therefore you can't protect him by directing your comments at a GROUP of users.
I, for one am disappointed with your performance as moderator. You do not distinguish between posts made in lively disagreement within a topic and posts made solely (and obviously, to most of us) to cause turmoil.
One person has posted 7 of the last 22 posts in THIS topic and you say NOTHING? To me, it seems your bias is obvious.
Instead of closing useful and interesting topics, why not address the problem?
Tom
editing....

PS. You posted your comments in post 6373 while I was typing. Glad you spotted the problem, but be consistent.

whatsachevy

for finally taking action to get control back of these threads. I apologize if I offended anyone with my comments. Perhaps, we can now get back to talking about "real" issues with our trucks. Thanks again!

quadrunner500

I agree.

bamatundra

Well said! I hope that everyone can continue to post here in a civil manner.

Thankyou for closing down the "Tundra Problems" topic. It became a playground fot GM owners. Any Tundra owner reading the topic would get no useful information.

I applaud your long overdue efforts to enforce the Edmund's rules of conduct. Good Job!

mpalombo

when some bashing is going on before you enter the message board.... 20 new posts in one day. lol.

If Bama is still here I would like to ask him a SERIOUS question...I am not going to get into a pissing match with you, I realize that you (as well as everybody) is entitled to their opinion and who the hell am I to try to change it? Ok so here is the question....

Why do you think the Silverado outsells the Tundra by such a wide margin?

No, I don't know the sales figures off the top of my head and I'm not going to portray myself as a know it all chevy freak. I own a Silverado and I love it. I would never consider buying a CURRENT Tundra. I say CURRENT because before 1997 or so I would have never considered buying a FORD but I would now. I almost did when I bought my Silverado it was stricktly a financial decision to go with the Silverado but now I am glad I went that way.

Ok, let's see if we can have an adult conversation about this...

-Mark

bamatundra

I am glad that you want to have an adult conversation. I am afraid that the Silverado owners in this topic really do not want to know the facts about Tundra vs. Chev. I don't want to start a flame war, so why don't you start a new topic? Something like "Tundra vs. Silverado" I would be glad to give you my opinion in an appropriate topic.
Thanks.

PF_Flyer

That is a good idea for a topic... as long as it doesn't deteriorate into the pissing contest.

Sometimes at the end of the day you'll have to agree to disagree and move on.

PF Flyer

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quadrunner500

Silverado owners already have ALL the facts on Tundra.

Time to move on, as PF states, unless he wants to see inmates running the asylum yet again.

mgdvhman

...a topic goes fine with a group of people....one person comes in and suddenly a problem......hmmmmm..perhaps just rid the problem PF?.........as opposed to shutting down the topic........

it's been said before..and I'll say it again......damn we need a live get together around a keg and a fire and settle this crap once and for all......all the talks....all the "put up or shut up" with the trucks themselves..........

but it will never happen...........

- Tim

bamatundra

Remember - this is a GM topic. There is no reason to post insults. I sense a lot of anguish from you.

Now - what has GM done recently to fix their knocking engines? Do they still claim that a brand new knocking engine is "normal"?

Does this mean that anyone buying a new GM truck can expect their engine to knock and GM will claim it is "normal"?

cowboyjohn1

Can't you just remove a name and password from your list of users? Just seems like a simple way to end this unnecessary abuse of a good topic. Seems like "bamatundra" just can't let it go.....
cowboyjohn

ryanbab

Tim

Very logical solution. But these days no one does anything the easy way.

Also ill buy the keg (maybe 2)

hillhound

ryanbab May 14, 2002 2:47pm

Better make it three-I'll bring lots of friends!!

bamatundra

I don't understand - you, Quad and Oby have posted thousands of posts to Tundra topics (more than all of the Tundra owners posts combined) for the last couple of years. Now you are outraged that one Tundra owner is posting here? I don't get it!

I am not posting about how great my Tundra is. I am not posting about Tundras at all. What is the deal?

ryanbab

How am i outraged?

I could care less if you hung out here. If i bought the 2 kegs i would gladly give you a cup.

hillhound

After reading alot of information from various sorces I decided to remove my K&N drop-in filter which I've been using for the past year or so. Mainly the concerns were that it allows too much dirt into the engine. I just replaced it with the heavy duty filter that comes with the Z71 package. I'll be keeping the K&N in case I decide to use it later.

I can't notice any difference in acceleration and there is less engine noise. Guess I'm weird since I like my truck quiet! The extra mileage from the K&N was almost nil. This weekend I'm goint to do some towing so I'll be anxious to see if I can notice any difference there.

hillhound

Speaking of towing-how much experience do you have towing with your Tundra? You seemed speak pretty authoritatively on this subject in other threads and I'd like to hear what you've pulled with your Tundra and your own personal experiences. Mileage, going up hills, etc??

bamatundra

Hillhound keeps wanting to change the topic. Remember - this topic is Chevy Silveradoa.

What does the Tundra towing capability have to do with this topic?

I know that the knocking Chevies (that GM refuses to repair) is a painful topic, but can we stick to the topic? Thanks.

kg11

You KNOW the only thing bama has pulled is his xxxx(and ours)

kip

bamatundra

We are not talking about Tundras. We are talking about knocking GM engines!

hillhound

Tell us how much practical experience you personally have with Chevy pickups. I'm curious as to why you not only seem to categorically hate GM products in general but also the people who own them. C'mon-tell us.

Sorry but I can't talk about knocking engines since mine does not knock. Nor does the engines of three other 99+ GM 1500s and one 2500 6.0L owned by friends/family. When mine knocks I'll let you know Bama. The only knocking I do hear are Tundra owning neighbors at my door who like to borrow my Chevy when they need a fullsize pickup to use.

mpalombo

It sounds just like my sons pre-school class in here.

-Mark

bamatundra

"It sounds just like my sons pre-school class in here."

You admit that you are still attending preschool? And with your son???

I know that Chev keeps raising them younger and younger!

Hillhound: When Chev is able to build a quality, reliable 1/2 ton pickup, I will consider them. Right now, I consider the Silverado 1/2 ton to be a cruel joke!

But remember = We are not talking about Tundras! If you compare the GM to other domestic pickups - it only comes out third behind Ford and Dodge.

blackmax200

and here I thought the engine was supposed to make noise when it is working... hmmmmmmm

matthew

tomh12

Obviously, the person who made post #'s 6383, 6391, and 6393, is only trying to INTERFERE WITH MY ABILITY TO ENJOY TOWN HALL and only repeating those questions and statements to be DISRUPTIVE. Can you think of any other reason to keep posting them over and over and over again?
Tom

tonyy

I only have about 2K miles on my 02 1500HD; I love this truck so far, what a great ride. My wife takes it any chance she can because it rides better than her 96 explorer. No vehicle I have ever owned has yet to surpass the dependability/durability of my 84 Toyota. Toyota quality was for the most part the result of a understanding and management of process variation. Everyone has a opinion but only passing of time tells the truth.

mgdvhman

....Tundra equals less truck for more buck.....good luck on this one now!

.......any more..come to my site or the truck bash...

- Tim

catam

I doubt I'll get any.

Anyway here goes, I am in the market for a used full size chevy/GMC. I am looking at around a 94-95 ext-cab. I would prefer 4wd but it is not necessary, and 1/2 or 3/4 ton would be acceptable.

I was just wondering if there is anything specific I should watch out for in these years, and check out when test driving. Thanks.

Also, some advice from a parent, if you ignore a child that is crying just to get attention eventually they will stop crying. I hope you all get my meaning.