Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

obyone

and why do you want to know? Enquiring mind?

87lion

Got the notice a week or two ago. Haven't been to the dealer yet. I've gotta get it done before I drive cross country.

ryanbab

Obyone i posted a bunch of questions.

Forget it guys i think ill go buy an dodge instead

mledtje

Inquiring minds want to know ----

My engineering mind also is unhappy with the shocks hanging down so low. But, in looking at other trucks, they all do it. My best guess is the shock length is required to get enough travel and keep the bed as low as it is.

More travel requires more shock length, if the bed is fixed then you can either go down, or reduce the travel.

It looks really bad on a 1500. On a 2500 the differential housing is so large that the shocks don't look like they hang down as much.

Mike L

eric2001

By positioning them lower on the axle, they have a longer body, allowing for a longer piston, i.e. longer travel (as mledtje already stated). This is why they are slanted, also, not mounted straight up & down. Just so you know...

n75v111

You ever have a chance to check out Wallgreens in your area for that model PU like you got for X-mas???

Store here was out!!! (:-(

75v

quadcab4x4

That's one of my GM pet peeve's..That 3" of extra travel is BS..Poor excuse, they should be mounted on top of the axle..Look at any Toyota truck, they even figured out how to do it right...

Allen-

ryanbab

Sold out here too.

Try

http://www.chevymall.com

They have a small scale silverado model

vince4

I agree about the shock mounts. My 2500 also has an annoying cross member under the transmission that looks like an afterthought. It is attached UNDER the frame rails so it hangs down low and has caught some rocks.

vince4

Warm up those flare stories fellas!

Welcome back dude.

jpals1

I have a 2000 LS extended cab with 12000 miles. I have been experiencing a slight "shudder" (maybe not the best description)in turns, most pronounced when turning from a stop. My dealer said the front end needed lubrication, which has been done at regular intervals. Needless to say, the "shudder" is still there. It is slight but still annoying. Anyone else have this problem, and if so, a better description for my service advisor?

BTW, took mine in for the recall yesterday. They kept it for five hours and then said they would have to order a bracket. I would have expected this to be a one stop deal, with parts on hand if needed.

dustyone

Recall work took 10 minutes from the time the tech started the job. Total time at dealer was 30 minutes with an appointment. Asked at time of making the appointment if parts were available. Service Advisor checked with parts department and sure enough there were none. When the parts came in (bracket and screw), they put my name on a set. Therefore one should check for the availability of parts before going in to have this work done because of the large number of trucks involved nation wide.

bco

if you've got to go back for the brake tsp...might want to consider having them look at your intermediate steering shaft.

unfortunately, i can't access the chevy tsb page i usually do to get the #, but someone around here will chime in with it in the next day or so. if you notice the "shudder" at low speeds, while turning, and especially over uneven terrain, this is prob'ly your fix.

if you're noticing a "shudder" at low speeds, while turning, while in auto-trac or 4wd - this is normal.

bco

jpals1

Thanks for the info, should have added that my truck is 2WD. I will certainly mention the intermediate steering shaft to the service advisor.

Made an appointment 1 week in advance for the brake recall, guess my dealer may not be the most prepared. At least he is convienient!

obyone

Clunking Noise Under Hood/Felt In Steering Wheel (Replace Upper Strg Shaft Assm) #00-02-35-003
Clunking Noise Under the Hood and can be felt in the Steering Wheel (Replace the Upper Intermediate Steering Shaft Assembly)
1999-2000 Chevrolet and GMC C2/K1/K2 Pickup Models (Silverado and Sierra)

2000 Chevrolet and GMC C/K Utility Models (Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, Yukon XL)

With Recirculating Ball-Type Steering

Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from under the hood that also can be felt in the steering wheel. These conditions may be more noticeable when turning at low speeds on rough road surfaces.

Correction
A new upper intermediate steering shaft assembly has been developed to correct these conditions. Replace the upper intermediate steering shaft assembly on affected vehicles with the new upper intermediate steering shaft assembly P/N 26085548. Use the following service procedure and part number listed below.

Set the front wheels in the straight-ahead position.
Set the steering wheel in the LOCK position.


From inside the vehicle, remove the upper bolt from the upper intermediate steering shaft (1) to the steering column connection.


From under the hood, remove the lower bolt that connects the upper intermediate shaft to the steering gear coupling shaft.
Remove the upper intermediate steering shaft assembly.
From inside the vehicle, slide the shaft down and off the steering column shaft.
From under the hood, slide the shaft towards the dash in order to disengage the shaft from the steering gear coupling shaft.
From inside the vehicle, slide the upper intermediate shaft through the dash boot seal and remove the shaft.
Install the upper intermediate steering shaft through the dash boot seal and slide the lower end into the steering gear coupling shaft.
Raise the upper end of the intermediate steering shaft and install into the steering column shaft.
Install the upper bolt and nut. Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 47 N.m (35 lb ft).

Install the lower bolt and nut. Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 50 N.m (37 lb ft).

Parts Information
Part Number Description Qty
26085548 Shaft Asm., Upr Inter Strg 1

Parts are expected to be available 6-16-00 from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation Description Labor Time
E7700 Shaft, Steering Intermediate - Replace Use published time

© Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

ryanbab

No one knows about flares

They need to be edumacated

87lion

ruin a beautiful Indigo Blue Metallic Silverado by installing cheapo black plastic flairs? LOL

ryanbab

I didnt install them the factory (GM) did

Look at this beautiful truck!!!

ricsch

laughed when I received this notice in the mail, filled it out "Truck returned to GM, manufacturer buyback!!" and sent it back.

erikheiker

Hey Ryan, what's with the 'roo bar. Been watching too much Survivor II?!!! No kangaroos in this country to worry about! I sure did see them on a lot of cars and trucks when I was in Australia. But I guess it does look kind of kool.

87lion

there called cow catchers. Teehee!

ryanbab

hmmm no cows withing 100 miles of where i am at.

Its for these dumb city drivers.

Basically it serves no purpose i admit that. It looks real good though. Might eventually add lights to piss off those people who complain about fog lights and drls. Think they will like some offroad lights, fog lights, and regular headlights on at the same time?

Ryan

mgdvhman

2500 Burb...Indigo with Black flares...8.1....Nice truck.
Was on dealers lot....was gonna drive it...but the guy wouldn't get out of it..turns out he bought it!

- Tim

hknoepfle

I am needing to replace the rear diff fluid in my 2000 3/4 ton Silver ado. The dealer wants to charge me $28.00 @ quart for the GM diff fluid! Four quarts and $100.00 later - fresh fluid. I am wondering if I can use 'other' synthetic fluids like Mobil 1?? Mobil 1 does not have the GM specs on the label. I do not want to void my warranty. Any suggestions?

erikheiker

If my dealer thinks I'm going to pay $100 for fluid alone he's crazy! I'm going with Mobil 1 and I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. I'll be doing my own change anyway.

doverarjim

I saw a 2001 CC going down the road today, in the all popular Indigo Blue Met. but the one thing that really stood out on it was the fact that it had a two tone paint job the bottom was pewter with pewter flares and it did look sharp. I checked at my local dealer and he said that two tone was not a factory option. I could not catch the guy and ask him if he did it or had it done, but it was neat looking if Gm would only see one and let them leave the factory like that.

trucks4me2

About 5-6 months ago, someone posted a web site that listed a replacement switch that allows the low beams to stay on when the high beams were selected. Anyone out there remember the web site??? Thanks in advance.

Stan

tex6

I need to purchase a grease gun to do my own lubes. Would appreciate recommendation of best type and where to buy. I went by the local dealer and asked the "technician" who does lubrication how many fittings (Zerks) were on a 2000 Z71. He thought for a minute and said "10?" I started to give him bco's url where he can see the photos. I was afraid to ask if he put oil in the new filter when doing an oil change.

The latest issue of Consumer Reports has their annual vehicle ratings. GM is at the bottom of the list for reliability. Do you think that is really warranted or do we just complain too much?

Good to see you back, Ryan!

obyone

tex6 said,"I started to give him bco's url where he can see the photos. I was afraid to ask if he put oil in the new filter when doing an oil change."

You suffering from the same affliction as bama?

wight1

GM Goodwrench motor oils and gear fluids are made by Mobil, so you can use Mobil 1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in the rear diff with no problem. I've changed mine twice now and haven't had any problem.
$6.50 a quart or so at the parts house beats $28 at the dealer.

I didn't dream this up on my own. 2 different dealers told me the same thing about the GM/Mobil oil deal.

wight1

One other note I forgot. I've seen several posts on this board in the past about folks being charged for 4 quarts of rear miff fluid when they had it changed at the dealer. The 2000 year model 3/4 ton only holds 2.7 quarts, so the most they should charge you for is 3 quarts, not 4. I believe the 2001 model ID models hold more judging by the size of the miff case in comparison to the 2000.

wight1

gotta use spell check. That should be miff, not miff.

mgdvhman

..better try it one more time!

LOL

- Tim

blacksilver

I ran "miff" through my spell checker, and it passed, but pukes on "diff".

erikheiker

Last time I checked there were 11 fittings on the 4WD 1500. As for grease guns, I prefer an air operated one. If that's not an option for you, go for a hand squeezed one as opposed to the lever operated one. That way only one hand has to be on the unit itself. I also use a 12 inch hose so I can maneuver more easily.

markbuck

Grease guns - I like Lincoln brand, with the added flex hose type tip. Got mine mail order from Northerntools or HarborFreight. Much higher quality than Plews junk.... My latest grease of choice is Ski-Doo synthetic. Good for low temps and I can use it on anything.

Rear Diff - I bought 4 qts of synth 75W140 thru my old parts buddy at the Chev place at around $17 a quart - discounted from the mid $20's. Mobil no longer markets this grade in their synth diff formulations. I do use Mobil in the front diff and Mobil synth ATF in my manual trans case. I use GM lube in my Manual tranny as it is "special". If I had an auto trans case, I would buy the GM blue stuff.

87lion

I've lived in the Mid-Atlantic region my whole life but am now moving to the Phoenix area. Does anyone have any tips or caveats concerning care and feeding of vehicles in a desert climate. Unfortunately my vehicles are Indigo and burgundy so they will be heat magnets.

erikheiker

My advice...move to North Dakota.

blacksilver

Get an electric one -- the kind that use the same style battery packs as electric drills. DeWalt, etc., make them.

87lion

Isn't North Dakota the desert with snow instead of sand? Not many engineering jobs there either.

bco

i KNEW zerks would come around again! yeah! for the next two weeks, ya'll will have to tolerate me posting pics of the zerks again! LOL!

yes, 11 is the correct number for a y2k 1500 z71. you can see pics by clicking here.

rear diff: my dealer's service center recommended the mobil on 75w90 to me. if i remember right it was 2.3 quarts. much cheaper than the gm stuff and easier to change than your engine oil.

bco

tex6

"same affliction as bama" I am not aware of bama, but prefer to put oil in the new filter when changing oil.

What is your opinion of Consumer Reports Ratings? I can't believe they have Dodges rated higher than GM for reliability!

mledtje

Try R&D truck accessories at:

http://www.truckautoaccessories.com/

Mike L

michgndr

Just looked at your pics on line. What brand/model is the bug deflector on your hood?

bco

it's called the "Bugflector II". not sure if that's the brand, the model, or both. got it at pep boys for $40. comes with five plastic inserts and screws and lines up with the five existing holes in the underside of the hood. no, it doesn't flex far enough to touch the paint. yes, it allows you enough room to get a sponge under there when washing. no, you cannot see it from the driver's seat (if you're 5'9" anyways).

hmmm, what else. oh yeah, in many peoples' first experience with a bug deflector on these new model 'rados, after putting it on, a slight "rippling" sound was heard from around the windshield area at speeds greater than 65 mph. this is the rubber gasket on each side (from hood to roof) of your windshield. a bead of silicone between the rubber and glass makes that sound go away.

bco

michgndr

Thanks. How the heck did you figure out I was 5' 9"???

Rippling sound from windshield: Doesn't happen without the deflector? Is it a result of the altered slipstream? Curious. Will see if that happens when I get my rig, now scheduled for production week of 2 Apr.

doverarjim

lion87, I liked living out there. But it was a long time ago spent from 72 to 83 in the Phoenix area. Park your Trucks in the afternoon shade, they be in the sun in the mornings but a little shade in the pm goes a long way. Depending where you go in the Valley of the Sun you can see and do alot, the north side is where all the yuppies were living when I was there, the West side out to Sun City has most of the old, and I mean OLD people living there. The East side of the Valley is where I lived but it is the winter home of more OLD, OLD people. You can see more new trucks and all sorts of strange things when the snow birds come south for the winter. Another neat thing about the East Valley is the GM Desert Proving Grounds if you are on the roads in the Mesa area you can see all sorts of things before you can buy them. I saw the S10 three years before it was sold to the public, and also when I was on vacation there 2 years ago I saw early designs of the HD's going down the road.

gmarkham

I realize you can probably start ordering 2002s by months end, but I dont need mine tell early October. Based on this when should I place my order with dealer. My timing is based on CD maturing but don't want them dragging their feet after 1st week in October. This is when I want to take delivery.

gmarkham

When does Chevy and GMC release 2002 info on their truck line up? Is info already out? any changes? Maybe I should post this message in another month or two but I'm anxious to put my 94 rado out to pasture(keep for work) and grab the latest one at years end.

tucsonjwt

Why not check out the Arizona Republic on line to get a flavor for the current Phoenix scene - very well done on line newspaper.
I live in Tucson (no surprise) and there is supposed to be animosity between Phoenix and Tucson residents. (Phoenix gets Tucson's tax money and spends it on Phoenix projects.) My only complaint is that I get stuck in traffic jams on the expressway every time I go to Phoenix. Also, Phoenix has a brown cloud like LA, only not so bad.
Phoenix is surrounded by many small communities, where most of the people live. As always, it usually pays in the long run to live in the best (read most expensive) community you can afford to get long term housing appreciation. One interesting tip, make your home to the east of your place of work. That way, you will have the sun at your back (not in your eyes) when you drive to work in the morning, and the sun will be at your back when your drive home in the afternoon. Also, avoid swamp coolers - you'll find out about them when you get there.
Stay out of the sun - skin cancer is a problem in the desert, plus you look old sooner with the dry climate. Also, pools are over rated - unless you have a very expensive house and can afford the constant maintenance and repairs. My $.02, and worth every penny.
Good luck.