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After reading many posts from you, I have concluded that you have many different personalities, kind of like the Pacifica...........
rodut, keep posting, I always enjoy them.............
Brooks
'04 FWD Pacifica
22,000 miles
A little mention of 2006 improvements in the Pacifica would have been appropriate and nice........It certainly wouldn't hurt anything, especially when you know that there will be newer crossover vehicles coming out every 6 months from who knows where........... :confuse:
Anyway ... shutting down Pacifica would be the worst joke in the car business history. The value of these cars would go to zero, and we won't have parts to fix them. It would be like we put in garbage CAN$40,000. And how Chrysler would recover the US$1,000,000,000 spent in Pacifica development costs ?! No way ... it's too bad to be true. Why shut down the nicest car on the planet ???
By the way, tomorrow I get a brand new left headlight ! The service manager (with a very happy voice) let me know it was waiting for me. And he was sure it was already recalled !
So, turbanski, Pacifica has a future. A bright one !
Driving it on the highway this sunny morning was a bliss ...
Cheers
Cheers from the USA
Dealers are the absolute worst source of information on something like this. They are the very lowest on the chain of communication in the auto industry. You would read it on the net long before a dealer would ever know anything.
All that said, I can't believe that DC would dump the PAC at this point. It wouldn't make sense.
Most of these guys are losers who bounce from dealer to dealer fairly quickly. They have no real product knowledge. Their only aim is to separate you from as much of your money as possible.
I do know a few really decent, knowledgable sales people in the business. They have loyal clientele and know their product inside and out. I'm 30 now and since I was 12 I have been dealing with a guy at my local Dodge dealer. I used to ride my bike down there and he'd talk to me with respect, and even slip me brochures and pre-release product info. Well, my father was so impressed with him that we have always gone back there to buy cars. Today that salesman is part-owner of the dealership and in the past year I got my Grand Caravan SXT from him and my dad got his Magnum RT AWD from him as well. It pays to be a knowledgeable professional, as people remember you and will want to deal with you. As long as he is there I will probably buy cars from him.
The only explanation I can find is that the mechanic who damaged my headlight also damaged other headlights on other brand new Pacificas on the lot, when performing the recall on them. Then, they found out how to disassemble the sealed headlights (probably by using hot water to dilate the lens, to be able to remove it, and bend the reflector back to its normal position). That caused the dirty water residues inside the units. So they replaced my headlight with a "reconditioned one" from one of the brand new Pacificas on their lot. This hot water based dilatation is my theory - obviously I have no proof. What I know for sure (because I saw it with my own eyes) is that one of the brand new Pacificas on their lot had the left headlight missing the morning when they replaced mine. I never saw any missing headlights on their lot Pacs before.
This headlight is definitely safe, I just have a thing with people lying to me ...
As you can see in my previous messages (2046 and 2051), for this headlight wiring harness recall I already was 4 times to my beloved dealer. I am rather tired of going back there. My wife says to drop it. Any advice ?
For Canadians, this is the Cyrville Chrysler dealership in Ottawa, Ontario.
Another thing: I filled the Chrysler survey and I'd like to change the answers I gave. Is there a Chrysler phone number where I could call to ask for another survey form ? I don't even have the address where I sent it.
You deserve to have your car repaired correctly at the dealership - and you deserve to be treated honestly. Your wife sounds like my husband did with our car!
If you are unhappy, you need to let the appropriate people know of your unhappiness. Call Chrysler Customer Service and report this situation to them. Documentation is important.
Our Pacifica was sold to us without an Owner's Manual (have a feeling it was lifted to give to someone else who purchased a Pacifica before us.) After numerous requests to our salesperson, sales manager, anyone we could get on the phone there, we called Chrysler Customer Service AND sent a certified letter. I actually had the District Manager call me personally and he took care of the entire situation. He urged me to keep his number and to call him if anything else came up. It did, I called, and he continued to follow through. He provided the best customer service we received from Chrysler!
I just spoke with the service manager. He said he was not aware the headlight had water traces inside and switched my headlight with the other one just to make me happy quickly (he was polite - he didn't say to get rid of me quickly !). He said the other Pac was not subject to this recall, so nobody touched it. I guess only God knows why it had water inside.
Well, he will order a new one and it will take a few weeks to get it because there is none of them available in Canada. By the way, it costs CAN$400 (CAN$1 = US$0.8). It's so big and beautiful that I was afraid it would cost more.
It looks like my 5th visit to the dealer for that recall will be the last one ! Or perhaps ...
Just kidding.
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Laurheis, except the recall and two "Pacifica normal" barely perceptible noises, we had absolutely no trouble with this car, so we are tempted to leave Chrysler out of this.
I am interested in possibly purchasing a pacifica but was wondering if anyone though that they may come out with a seven passenger model in the future? Could this be a possibility or no? Thanks for any responses.
I'm looking to buy a 2005 Pacifica but I've been reading about reliability issues like rattling and smelly seat belts. Consumer Reports even states that although the PAC is a good vehicle it was prone to mechanical glitches in the 2004 production runs. I hear that 2005 has the bugs worked out. True? Is the 2006 about to be released? Should I wait?
To be fair, the yes' seem to outweigh the no's for PAC satisfaction from my research. I want to ask you all about your thoughts as current owners. I realize no car is perfect and there may be issue that come up. I just don't need a new vehicle going to the shop in a few months for things that should work in general.
Your feedback would be most appreciated as I'm currently contacting several dealers for pricing and my wife and I will be buying something in the next few days. We want it to be a PAC. Admittedly I've been a consumer of Japanese models and I'm a bit spoiled by the reliability I've experience from both used and new japanese models.
Thanks all in advance for your valuable feedback. We are looking at getting the Limited fully loaded. :-)
Rear visibility is also marginal.
I get 19 MPG mixed driving on my FWD. The AWD has extra friction (especially in cold weather) and has more fluids to be replaced.
Yes, my 2005 is OK. Me too I am a Japanese car owner since 1993. Buy it from a good reputation dealership though. That's the key to happiness. Turbanski's collision shop gets the parts overnight ... my dealer gets the headlight in "a couple of weeks".
Red is very nice.
How can you say that with a straight face? Xerogravity, Go read the problems forum and then see if that statement holds water. If you expect anything resembling Japanese reliability you will be very disappointed.
Anyhow, I couldn't ask for a better vehicle right now. Very pleased with "Goldie," however, if Chrysler decides to put in a Hemi for 2006, then it might be bye-bye Goldie and "Hello Sunshine 2006!"
8-10 mpg?
It would get up an move though....
8-10 mpg?"
Your post seems to ignore the fact that the 300C only gets 2 mpg less than the 300 Limited which has the exact same engine as the Pacifica. My guess is that a Hemi Pacifica would probably get 15/20 mpg City/Highway.
Best Regards,
Shipo
20-21 highway
300C Hemi RWD -- 4,046 lbs. -- 17/25 mpg -- City/Highway
300 Limited RWD -- 3,767 lbs. -- 19/27 mpg -- City/Highway
Pacifica FWD -- 4,383 lbs. -- 18/25 mpg -- City/Highway
300C Hemi AWD -- 4,251 lbs. -- 17/24 mpg -- City/Highway
300 Limited AWD -- 4,041 lbs. -- 17/24 mpg -- City/Highway
Pacifica AWD -- 4,774 lbs. -- 17/22 mpg -- City/Highway
This is actually more information that I had when I made my guess as to 15/20, and oddly enough, this new information seems to indicate that as the weight and drivetrain complexity increase, the mileage of the 3.5 liter mill suffers much more than does the Hemi. So, would that mean that a Hemi Pacifica might would well get 16/22. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
Best Regards,
Shipo
I did get my chance to give Chrysler some negative feedback on their silence regarding marketing the Pacifica. They might be waiting for some improvements to actually hit the dealership before they toot their Pacifica horn again...........
The dealer has been excellent, although we have only been there for the original purchase, and the free oil changes every 3000 miles.
Well steelydan ... actually I think I have two personalities only : happy, and pissed off ! From now on I plan to concentrate more on driving it and enjoying it, rather than criticizing it. It's a beautiful toy. I had installed the Mopar hitch on it (looks very sturdy, pipe style, 4 big screws on each side), and every weekend I put 4 bicycles on it, and go ride them around beautiful places. The kids love Pacifica a lot more since.
Thanks for the invitation turbanski. I was close to move in US because of the job. It could still happen. Life is not predictable. Canada is the 3rd country I lived in. US would be the 4th one.
Cheers
My wife and I bought a new 04 Pac w/ AWD and put just over 10000 miles. No glitches or mechanically problems. We have a two children so the size is perfect. Get the DVD player and what is great the screen does not block the drivers view looking back through the rear view mirror. I am a car guy and the Pac handles and drives like a car, a must with me. Powertrain well before the Pac I owned a 00 Dodge Intrepid 3.2L w/ 4 speed autostick and put over one hundred thousands miles with no problems. Chrysler has improved their fit and finish to be put up against imports and the best compared to its american competitor. Go test drive one and check out the bells and whistles. Also winter driving is great and fun specially with the AWD.
Ok a car cannot be perfect, so one of the down falls to a all-wheel-drive 4800lb SUV is the gas mileage which is between 16-19 city/highway. I do drive some-what aggressive but it is still less than what is stated on the window sticker. They should have put a 5 speed auto which would have make it more like a car when accelerating and get better highway mileage with that extra gear. You will read/hear a lot about the view backing up but what SUV has good views backing up. Newer models have seniors, so get them if you need them.
I have read about Chrysler cars/trucks and owning them myself, one thing I do as a must is run synthetic motor oil. Also read the manual about the trans fluid and have the dealership do the transmission work if needed.
Thanks all for your prior feedback.
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In problems forums you're going to see mostly those with the problems. There are problems for Camry and call. Search in Browse by Topic and look at all the Problems discussions.
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If you look at the latest Consumer Reports the Japanese still lead the quality parade. American makes have made progress but still do not have the quality ratings of foreign autos.
DC is a great example of where the American makers are failing (yes I realize they are now German owned but they are still making all the cars in the Chrysler factories). Chrysler has had some very winning designs and ideas in the last year or so. The Crossfire, 300, Magnum and PAC are all very well styled. But the quality has lagged behind and continues to be an issue across the board for Chrysler. And if they are serious about positioning Chrysler as a luxury brand then the quality of the cars and the service at the dealers has to change drastically!
I am looking to buy a hitchstep/rear bumper guard for the 2005 Pacifica but it requires a 2" hitch receiver to be installed. I see that you have installed the Mopar hitch receiver. Can you describe all the parts (i.e. hitch, balls, etc.) that need to be ordered to install the receiver and how difficult was the actual installation?
I called the dealer and they estimated all the necessary parts to be around $5-600 since the hitch is $200 alone. Any suggestions on where to purchase the parts would be greatly appreciated also.
Thank you very much.
I called the dealer and they estimated all the necessary parts to be around $5-600 since the hitch is $200 alone. Any suggestions on where to purchase the parts would be greatly appreciated also.
Please let me know if anyone is aware of any other chrome rear bumper guards for the '05 PAC that do not disrupt the rear backup sensors.
Thank you very much.
The Mopar hitch looks sturdier than the other ones.
Actually I paid one hour of labor just to get the papers, not for the installation. If it ever flies in somebody's windshield, I will show the papers to the police. It's worth $80, trust me. Don't do it.
Just a friendly advice.
Is there something they improved on in the later models? Does anyone know of a fix that won't void warranty?
Other than the poor MPG, car has been flawless over 20K miles. Except of course for the poor visibility rearward, but that's to be expected...
Thanks!
Frankly , I have my doubts as to whether you can actually get a loaded Pacifica for $25,000 (new), but hey, if they are desparate enough, then it's your lucky day...........
My experiences with this early model have been good, I have some minor issues that have or have not been resolved, and the one remaining issue (squeak in dashboard), is actually improving with age..........I have not had anywhere near the issues brought up on this website, frankly, I wonder some days if we are talking about the same car .........
I will say that there were a couple of recall notices that potentially effect drivability that were done on the early models, they were done either before or after I picked the car up, but I never had any problems with drivability.
I had the "squeaky dashboard " looked at, I think this is just an annoyance, and as I said, is actually decreasing over time. It seems to be temperature related, as it goes away in hotter weather.
I did have some slightly loose bolts (apparently not torqued down enough), that resulted in an intermittent "clunking " sound upon harder braking or accelerating, and intermittently at that. That was taken care of easily by the dealer
I bought this car new because I thought I could break it in properly, I change the oil, filters often, and I drive it like I will keep it for a long time.....I really liked the Pacifica, I still do, I think this is an idea whose time has come. The SUV craze is over.
Crossover vehicles like the Pacifica are an idea whose time has come. Are there improvements to be made? Absolutely. But I like looking at at the car inside and out , and I have not tired of it. It really looks cool :shades: , particularly the white one I have with the beige leather (great leather seats, by the way).
I think this care will easily go 100,000 miles or more, with 3,000 mile oil changes, and yes , I would buy another one. I just passed 23,000 miles in 17 months of ownership. I have taken care of it, and it has taken care of me..........
Hope this helped..........
I drove in a Cadillac for one loaner (squeaky dashboard) and a new Dodge Durango for my only other loaner experience (paint chip on door) , and they took care of that by putting cool black door edge guards on all doors............
I put mud flaps on myself, a chrome exhaust tip, and a Mopar bug deflector that works great in the Texas bug season............
Nice car, this is one early production run that the pluses far outweigh the minuses, and the dealership, DeMontrond Cadillac/Dodge /Jeep/Chrysler in Conroe, Tx , never failed to satisfy.............and the coffee and pastries to boot.................YeeHaaaaa...............