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total isolation, no road feedback, vague steering response, slow steering response...of course that was just my experience. Others may mean something else. fwiw, only a miata has ever come close to how I felt a car's steering wheel should feel.
Right now, how negotiable is this price? Can I get it for 32 flat? Lower? Or am I stuck paying sticker?
All pricing info will be appreciated. Thanks :shades:
Toyota use to manufacture all their vehicles with an adjustable crotch vent (loved it). To reduce production costs (I assume), they took them out with the introduction of new models. To my knowledge they have all disappeared. That's too bad.
Adding a DVD Navigation System
Can a Navigation System be added by my Lexus Dealer if my car was not built with one?
No. The Lexus Navigation System is only installed in Lexus vehicles by the factory. The Navigation System installed in Lexus vehicles at the factory is not available for purchase as an after-market dealer-installed option.
Looking for a white, nearly every package, 6 speed IS250 with the silver leather. Factory XM.
By fully loaded:
ML included.
Sports Package
NAV
Pre Collision System
18 in tires
3000+ miles though
Apparently it was used by the Corporate Lexus Office
Do a search for Lexus IS 350. Space between IS and 350.
I really don't think this is the car for you. It's amazing how the debate rages on whether the size of the car is too small or is adequate. There is really nothing subjective here. The car is a sub-compact with a 34 cubic foot back seat, which is the smallest back seat in the field of eight (8) cars comparison-tested by C&D in their October issue. It is really difficult to believe claims by those taller or more portly folk or even those of average size that the back seat is comfortable or even adequate but if you can somehow shoehorn yourselves in and rationalize that you are in fact comfortable, more power to ya.
This may well be a commendable car in some respects but it is a commendable car designed for little people. Think MiniMe.
The Acura TL interior is almost what I would consider perfect, but car lacks in performance
Exactly how does the car "lack in performance??" In the same C&D article referenced above, the TL in fact ranked first with 20 out of 20 points in the chassis performance category compared to the IS 350's 17 points while in the powertrain performance category it ranked second in a tie with three other vehicles with 17 out of 20 points while the IS 350 ranked first with 20 points. If you add the powertrain and chassis performance points together, the TL and the IS 350 tied for first place with a total of 37 points each! It is noteworthy that this total bettered the BMW's by 1 point. Of course, the BMW should have failed or been kicked out of the comparison altogether due to its faults and brake failure.
The TL ranked second (tied with the G35) behind the IS 350 in acceleration 0-60 and quarter-mile times.
But as regards comfort of both the front and rear seats, the TL was awarded first place with 14 out of 14 possible points compared to the IS 350's 11. No contest here.
Yes, you are right, it really is!
"There is really nothing subjective here."
Wrong! This is really all a matter of what we are comfortable with and I believe that some people might be in denial of whether they are obese or not. I repeat, I am 5'11", 195 lbs, size 13 shoes, and I fit perfectly fine in the backseat with somebody of equal size sitting in front.
This car is either for people who:
A) Don't need too much backseat space
"The car is a sub-compact with a 34 cubic foot back seat, which is the smallest back seat in the field of eight (8) cars comparison-tested by C&D in their October issue."
I test drove an 06' 325i and found the backseat room to be comparable to the IS.
"It is really difficult to believe claims by those taller or more portly folk or even those of average size that the back seat is comfortable or even adequate but if you can somehow shoehorn yourselves in and rationalize that you are in fact comfortable, more power to ya."
I have absolutely no reason to lie. I find the backseat comfortable even though I will have rare use for it. I don't feel like having friends make a mess of my future new car! I will be buying this car for myself.
"This may well be a commendable car in some respects but it is a commendable car designed for little people. Think MiniMe."
Not MiniMe, but think "Me".
You do not need to be a midget to drive a car with a relatively small backseat. See, I agree with you that the backseat is not big, but it is not exactly small to the extents that you make it out to be. This whole issue is subjective, not objective. Comfort and size are all relative based on what you are used to. What is not relative or subjective is the actual measurements of the interior space. How can it be objective if I find it comfortable... ? :confuse:
"Exactly how does the car "lack in performance??" In the same C&D article referenced above, the TL in fact ranked first with 20 out of 20 points in the chassis performance"
Maybe the car lacks in performance in his opinion. Not everyone thinks the TL performs top-notch ya know.
The BMW 325i lacked in performance in my opinion; too much body-roll.
I am by no means trying to get people to agree with me. All I am doing is trying to stay away from all of these difinitives! Practically everything is subjective when buying cars besides the specs and the price.
G35s are fun but watch out, they bite back.
I've got an IS350 in this color coming soon.
This is an amazing statement. While I do not disbelieve you, I am quite unable to fit in the backseat with anything approaching a reasonable degree of comfort. And I am smaller than you at 5'11" and 175 lb. and have a shoe size of 11.5.
I test drove an 06' 325i and found the backseat room to be comparable to the IS.
The back seat of the 325i (2006 model) is in fact 20.5% bigger at 41 cubic feet than that of the IS at 34 cubic feet. As regards the front seat, the Lexus is 1 cubic foot bigger than the BMW but, of course, 4 cubic feet smaller than the TL which had the most commodious front seat of all the cars in the test. Again, these figures are totally objective, NOT subjective. Draw your own conclusions about which car is the most comfortable but C&D gave their nod to the TL for total front and back seat comfort.
Maybe the car lacks in performance in his opinion. Not everyone thinks the TL performs top-notch ya know.
Opinions are valid to the extent they are based on facts. The facts as they pertain to the TL include the previous acceleration times as stated, a braking distance of 170 ft. from 70-0 with a test average of 175 ft., a roadholding figure, 300-foot skidpad of 0.91 g (best in test) and a lane change speed of 62.5 mph, again the best in the test. Incidentally, both of these last two figures were substantially better than the IS 350 and even better than the BMW 330i with the Lexus being hamstrung, of course, by the obligatory electronic nanny. These objective measurements (NOT opinions) unequivocally indicate that the TL more than held its own against all other cars in the test. Lacking in performance? I don't think so and neither do the numbers.
http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2004_12_07.html
On a related note, XM put out a press release yesterday saying they will start factory-installing XM in Nissans/Infinitis beginning with 2008 models.
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Good talking to everyone!
I have a good deal being offered on an Acura TL with a manual transmission. While I believe the lexus is better in just about all categories, I feel like the TL is more fun to drive with its smooth shifting manual.
Has anyone drive both? I would love to hear your opinions on which you prefer.
Kind Regards,
Akshay
-- Pop in a good DVD, give them a couple of those drinks with the little unbrellas...
Amen, I say...AMEN to that. I'm lusting over the convertible, and i haven't even seen it yet. After driving the AWD 250, I conclude that the ride was not the slightest bit thrilling. As i said before, I can't tell if it's the lack of a Manual Transmission, or lack of power in it, or maybe even lack of grunt. But if i were to take a wild guess, i would say the manual tranny because I have more fun in my 5 speed accord. The paddle shifters didn't really have an authoritative feel to them. Maybe this is different in the 350. And as for the coupe/convert, hopefully they are sleeker/sexier than the sedan a la G35. Nonetheless, If i'm paying top dollar for a vehicle, i want to feel some sort of control (manual tranny), and if i have to settle for an auto/paddle, I at least want to not be bored with the styling right away (and mark my words, the styling of the IS sedan will appear bland soon). Coupe/Convertible me, please. Sux tho because I know they won't put the convertible out there until just before the New SC drops.
P.s. what's the deal with the upcoming SC460? Will it be a hardtop convertible? Will Lexus even bother with a 250 convertible?
Just an opinion - but that's what someone asked for a few messages ago!
I'm in your camp on which one, though. I like a sportier look than birdseye in particular can impart to this kind of car, and I also think it's a much cleaner and frankly more sophisticated presentation, a la the S4. Just opinion.
What I appreciate from Lexus is that the correct packages were trimmed differently. I want more sport, and the metal is the accent for the sport package; win/win. Bravo Lexus. Now, if they could just eschew the cheapo route and rather trim the sport in a brushed titanium laminate...
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The sad fact is that manual transmissions in cars of this category are available at all only because they can be sold (in quantity) in Europe.
That's where they tax displacement to a fare-thee-well. The 2.5 litre engine w/ a manual works -- the 3.5 doesn't.
Dream on.
Hmmmm...
I go with prevailing sentiment that they have blown an image indicator, as well as incremental sales. Whether they care or not, who knows?