Several members are experiencing similar "clunks" in their Azera's front end, so let's get all the posts together in a dedicated discussion. Come on over: Hyundai Azera - Front End Problems.
Right rear ding, just over the wheel well, about "one o'clock" or so? Me too!! As w/your report, my dealer shrugged shoulders! The paint was not violated, but it's there, & I'm not a detail nut, but thought I'd throw it into the mix.. transport problem on the trailers??
New to this forum, and from Bradenton FL, bought from the biggie dealer in-area. Airbag light on-dash brought me back early for diagnosis; part ordered for something in steering column. Part arrives, another trip in.. calls w/in 20 min. of dropping to report "it's not that part, it's a seatbelt module, come & get your car back" for another week of driving w/no airbag deploy-ability??!
Speaking w/svc. mgr for 1st. time ever, he advised re: policy of "one part at a time" ordering system, to avoid dealers stealing parts into inventory, sent for warranty work. So, if the tech. finds 3 possible items to solve a problem, Hyundai only allows one part ordered at a time, to attend to the problem! Have fun w/that waiting game?!
AND, "I'd never have let you leave the first diagnosis without a loaner vehicle!" He oughto've communicated this policy to his front desk team, who sent me off for a week+, driving the I'state daily 20+ miles one way for work! Imagine a wreck, and the liability to the brand for not providing safe loaner vehicles for safety-related issues on the "safest model on the road" no less!
I'm finding all the input interesting from other folks, thanks! Looking like shopping for dealers who've done their training on this new model may be worth the work!
Only other thing is the glass cleaning; not a detail freak, but having a heck of a time keeping window glass nice! Finally, a hand-held item from LinensNThings for glass cleaning (one of those goofy TV items!), paired up w/a glass wipe product laid onto the hand-held pad, will easily do a great job on the interior of these massive window surfaces! Fold a paper towel into quarters for a finish, after the wet-wiper! Dealer sales guy advises that the interior-plastic/leather exudes a quantity of "stuff" that coats the windows upon new.. I'm still working on this after 6K miles!
All-in-all though, after a long day at a supermarket job, covering 3miles+ on foot all day, to fall into my Venetian Blue/Beige beauty, set the air on cold, the seats on hot, and the classical music on high.. you just can't complain too much, eh?!
I've just driven my car a few times at night so far, and I've noticed that the headlight beam seems to be somewhat obstructed. It looks as if someone was holding a piece of cardboard over the top 20 % of the lamp, with a noticeable "blackness" running horizontally across the lighted area... Any ideas as to what causes this? Is there a remedy for this? It certainly is a strange effect, and I don't find it acceptable...Phil
2 weeks ago I purchased my new Azera. Actually I purchased it about 3.5 weeks ago, but had to wait for my Black on Black to come from the port. During that week while I was waiting, I drove a new Sonata, and was very pleased with that car. Extremely solid, powerful, roomy. And then the dealership called to tell me my Azera was in and ready.
I'm so happy I waited for the color I wanted. The black interior is absolutely gorgeous - really more of a dark charcoal color. The fake wood trim is a lighter maple color and really pops out against the dark interior.
Anyway, this is my first Hyundai and I was a little unsure of owning one. Folks - I am very sure now - this may be my most favorite car ever - and there is usually a new car in the stable every year or two. It's gorgeous, fast, stable, and very luxurious. And is it me or does this car feel giant from behind the wheel? I still have no idea where the back end is - backing into my driveway - I think I am about 8 inches from the garage door. I get out and OPPS! five feet to go.
I am a real estate broker - and I must say - the perfect car for my business. I've already had clients ask me - what is this? Lexus? Or the best yet - yesterday a client is riding with me, were chatting about properties, but she keeps touching the car inside, the dash, the buttons. Then she suddenly kind of jumps up - Is this a HYUNDAI????!! It was great.
Anyway - love the car - and highly recommend.
A few quirks. Rattle from rear sub-woofer. The front seats keep attacking the buttons on my slacks back pocket.
I've had my Azera since the beginning of March and have just over 18,000 miles on it. It has been back to have the clock replaced (within the 1st week) and to have the sunroof adjusted to close flush. I thought there was a problem with the car leaning, but since investigating and asking questions...it's a non-issue. The car has made a few round trips from MD to NC as well as one trip down to FL and back. All trips have been great with no problems to report. I will say this...the trip to FL was 3 adults and 2 kids and the trunk held all of our luggage (we packed for a week's stay). Gas mileage was surprisingly at about 28 mpg, but that was with a very loaded vehicle, A/C running and doing an average of about 80 mph.
Right now, the only thing I have an issue with is the headlights have started flickering while driving. When I'm sitting at a light or parked...they stay constant. As soon as I pull off, am in motion or coming to a stop...they flicker occassionally. Hopefully, the service department will be able to take care of it.
Other than that...I'm VERY happy with my 'Zera and plan on having it for quite some time.
A few quirks. Rattle from rear sub-woofer. The front seats keep attacking the buttons on my slacks back pocket.
Dogbeau...the subwoofer may not be the problem, check the covers to the child seat anchors up on your rear deck. They could be vibrating when the bass hits. Every once in a while I have to reach back there and press them down real good and the problem goes away. My new problem is vibrations coming from the rear doors, so I have to yank the panels and install some dynamat!
I rented a 2006 Azera with 12000 miles on it for a week. I drove 1200 miles and loved driving it so much that I came home to Las Vegas and purchased one. I looked at the 2006 and was offered $5,000 off sticker, (dealer had 25 units on the lot), but opted for a 2007 model. I purchased one with the Ultimate Package for an even $27,000 or $3,340 off sticker. I find that the Azera has a very smooth ride with great acceleration. Loved all the features, only thing missing that my last car a 300M had are; auto dim diver outside mirror and tire monitor. For the money and value it’s a hard car to beat.
Considering what you paid for the Azera, I'm sure you're not missing the auto dimming driver's side mirror. However, a nice fix for that...tinted windows!
Welcome to the ever-growing Azera family!!! :shades:
Hello out there. I have a question. Does the Azera come with a valet key? I didn't get one. I need the chip from it to put remote start in my car. Does anyone know the cost of a duplicate key. THANKS :confuse:
Bought a new Azera, 2007 in early October, only have 1300 miles on it but so far its fine. My wife loves the car, very comfortable and so far no clunking. Dealer experience in South East WI has been first class, good folks. Spent a weekend in the Copper Country MI ran into 8" of snow and car performed very well. JJTee
I also live in South East WI, a little north of Milwaukee. Going to check out the three Hyundai lots on Sunday. Looking for a 2007 also and if I find one I like will try to get a deal done next week some time. Liked that your dealer experience was first class. Not sure if you can do this or not but what dealer did you go to and can you give me the salesman's name if possible. Glad you like your new ride, hope to do the same soon.
Does 07 have tilt on reverse side view mirrors? Does ignition key have to be inserted before memory seats work? Do power pedals have momory setting? I hope they made those corrections for 07.
I just bought a brand new '06 Azera Limited. The dealer was incredible (Goldsboro Hyundai, NC), and I would shop there again in a heartbeat. Not only was I $1500 under invoice, but I got the rebate on top of that, plus $9,500 for my old 2002 Chrysler Sebring with 92,500 miles. (The Sebring wasn't worth close to that...)
It's everything it's been advertised to be, and I hope it continues to be.
The dealer most likely has to activate the auto-door lack feature ... that was true for my '06 Sonata LX. I'm thinking of trading it for an Azera; my only concerns: the Sonata gets 24 MPG in town, and it has an exceptional safety record. It has a lot of road noise, however, unless the pavement is smooth. Any thoughts, Azera drivers? Yes or no to the trade? :P
I would wait to see if Hyundai corrects any of the issues related to the Azera. You will not get 24 MPG around town in Azera. As there appears to be massive inventories of 2006 models, you probably could make a good deal, if you are willing to live with the shortcomings. I'm fairly certain that the 2006 Azera will not have a great resale value. Percentage wise, the Sonata will most likely be better.
I've had my Azera since the beginning of August and just love this car. I had a couple of issues that were resolve by the dealership.
Make sure you get 3 keys to open the doors. They forgot to give me the valet key so the dealer ended up and had to give me a whole new set of keys. Now I've got 4 keys (total amount the car will accept) Don't lose them as they will be expensive to replace.
The sub woofer would vibrate and I couldn't properly enjoy the 315 watt stereo system. I realized that it was the child latches vibrating. I fixed it by putting double sided padded tape between the metal latch and frame. You can't see a thing.....................Wow did I see a difference and now able to crank up the volume to full capacity of the system.
Impressive car, several times people have pulled me over just to see the Azera and it really turns heads and the comfort level with this car is awesome.
Honestly, I think it's a sporadic problem at best. I've seen those complain about that clunk and then there are owners such as myself that haven't experienced it at all. Even with the new rims and tires on the car...the ride is smooth and quiet until you hit some really sharp bumps, but then it's only a problem if you're going too fast over them.
I truly don't feel it's something worth creating a "Buyer Beware" alert. One thing you have to remember...there's one heck of a warranty backing this car, and if you're dealing with a great service department, it's nothing more than a minor hiccup really.
The overall driving experience more than makes up for the suspension noise, in my opinion. I think you would be hard pressed to find another automobile that offers so much in the way of quality, performance, luxury, warranty and purchase price. Getting behind the wheel and moving it out on the highway is an experience I have had with very few cars and I have had "a few" over the years.
Buyer beware is right. Ridiculous rattle clunk from the front right. I am at 800 miles right now. Wish i had taken a more thorough test drive, then i would have never bought this car.
Without the utterly aggravating clunk/rattle, i could overlook: -the sloppy transmission shifting -the floor it and wait forever to downshift problem -the huge gaps in the door to dash alignment -the silly useless wheel mounted stereo controls on the 06 model -the excessive driveline lash -the horrible traction control that lets the wheels spin and the horrible axle tramp -the electrochromatic mirror that has no adjustments that lets the light from the back shine just a bit to bright in your eyes at night -the noisy suspension (that's right it's noisy before you hear the dreaded azera clunk) -the total lack of lateral support in the seats -the suspension wallow in corners, yes folks it's a white knuckler if you like spirited driving. best of both worlds, feel every bump yet wallow in the corners!! -abysmal gas mileage
I really wanted to love this car. I tried. I sat in the car and adored the aroma of the leather, gazed at the lovely dash layout, but then everytime i tried to love it and justify the ridicously large cash layout for such a poorly operating automobile, then i put it into reverse, drive out to the main road and clunk and rattle my way to work, and wish i had never bought this car.
93 VW Corrado SLC (new) 94 RX7 (new) 94 Acura Legend (used) 97 Grand Prix GTP (new) 97 BMW 540i (new)
All of them were so much better than the Azera at doing what they were intended to do, and for crying out loud the only thing the Azera has better than the worst car on that list (pontiac of course) was nicer leather and a bit more hp.
heck, i didn't list the 2001 dodge dakota quad cab, and even that made me happier than the azera! not to mention the honda civic ex i just got driving for almost 4 years. you would think i would be thrilled going to the azera after a civic ex, but i am so regretting trading that in for this piece of crap.
I've been keeping up with these forums since before I purchased my Azera. I've had it for a few weeks, and it has about 1000 miles on it. I guess I have been fortunate so far, as to not have the "dreaded klunk". I've listened for it, and driven over rough pavement, etc. and have not heard anything. I absolutely love the car. It is very comfortable while driving. I drive approx. 500 miles a week for my job, so I've been able to test that out. It has so many features that are in my opinion a luxury. The rain sensing wipers and auto headlights for instance. Anyway, I think it is a great car for the money, and I am hoping not to experience the klunk. Christy
You seem fairly bitter, cbrturbo. I went from a VW Passat to the Azera and feel the Azera is a MUCH better vehicle. I have relatives that are Lexus and Acura owners and when we have group outings, they prefer to take the Azera to travel. All of them feel that, for the money, the Azera is a great car.
However, I DO agree with some of your points. The shifting is still not comfortable. I think the Passat had a great transmission and VERY predictable shifts which could be easily manipulated. The Azera is what I would term a "tricky" shifter. It's hard to get a handle on.
I have lag problems on shifting when the vehicle is cold -- especially with "wide open throttle". I know there's a service bulletin on this, but I haven't had the time to take it in yet.
No alignment problems with my car. I don't mind the steering wheel controls.
There is a little "hopping" with the tires on hard acceleration, but it smooths out very quickly.
The gas mileage is lower than my Passat by about 2 miles per gallon. I'm averaging 18 city and 28 highway. The Passat averaged 20 city and about 30 highway. But with that loss of 2 MPG, I am getting about 75 more horsepower. Okay tradeoff in my book.
There is also a little clanking over rough roads. I have learned to avoid potholes and other rough surfaces because of it.
Overall, I've been pleased with the Azera. The ride on smooth roads is excellent and the features for the price are very good. It's been the best car I've owned to date (Toyota Celica, Chevrolet Spectrum, Ford Taurus, VW Passat).
I too have owned many other new cars, from Cads, to BMW to Infiniti. The Azera is a good car, but would be so much better if the company would listen to the few repeating issues of owners and at least respond. They always deny any knowledge of other similar complaints and send you back to yhe local dealer. The Consumer Affairs people state that they are not allowed to speak or contact "engineering" and if they have technical questions they are instrucyed to contact your local dealer. It appears to be backward. The dealer should be contacting corporate for assistance. Keep complaining. Maybe they will get the message.
turbo, I've had 6 Acura TL's (2 car family), Legend, Sterling, Maxima, Diamante and a bunch of Buick Electras to name a few. I am a senior citizen now and I don't expect the Azzy to respond to flooring the throttle. If I wanted a "hot rod" I would have looked at a Corvette or the like. This car performs exactly as "advertised" a sensible touring sedan with all the features of entry level luxury. Granted that the suspension is a nagging problem to many but that doesn't mean one has to "dismantle" this car as if it were a hunk of junk. I suggest that you purchased the wrong type of car because if it was a "muscle" car you were hoping for this is not it. Hope you can adjust in time or you may need to consider trading out to save your sanity. Good luck.
Sounds to me like you were caught up in the romance of a new vehicle without being thorough in your approach.
The transmission shifts according to a pattern it learns from the way you drive...could be sloppy driving habits. Mine shifts fine. Only point I'll agree on is the lag in shift when you press the gas pedal down, however...easily overcome by switching to manual mode.
If huge gaps were a problem, you should have pointed it out and asked to see another car to see if it had the same problem.
The steering wheel remote for the radio seems to have been an afterthought, but it's not the end of the world. Again...something you defintely knew about before purchasing.
Not sure what you mean about driveline lash.
The traction control kicks in to stop excessive spin.
If headlights are too bright even with the electrochromatic feature turned on on the rearview mirror (you do know you have to turn it on, right), then raise your rear window screen to diffuse the light, or...get tinted windows.
The suspension on my Azera is quiet and well mannered until you go over extremely sharp bumps faster than you should.
Lateral support is for sports cars, the Azera is Korean luxury, seems you're tryin to make a work horse our of a show horse.
As far as the suspension goes, it's more than capable of handling spirited driving on curvy roads. One way to enhance handling performance is to get some tires that are made for that type of driving. The Michelins that come standard on the Azera...well, they just aren't the best for that. I've changed to 20" wheels with 245/35-20 tires and body roll is almost eliminated since there's no more tire lean available when I turn.
Gas mileage isn't the greatest, I'll agree...but with everything you get for the price, it was enough to get me to look the other way on that issue.
Have you addressed any of the suspension issues with your service department? Have you bothered driving another Azera to see if you came across the same issues? You claim a large cash layout and yet...FULLY loaded, you can get the Azera for around $26K. Seems to me you were expecting quality in the terms of Lexus or Infinity. The reality of it is...it's still Hyundai. While not in the top echelon of luxury quality, they've made huge strides from where they used to be.
From the list of cars you've had there...they've all been SPORT oriented vehicles. The Azera is NOT a sport sedan...if that's the case...you should have been looking at the Nissan Maxima. Got a buddy that has one and his complaint is the ride is so rough, you almost feel beat up when you're done! LOL
Yeah...you messed up thinking you could go from a race horse to a pony ride and get the same thing. Just admit you shopped the wrong vehicle. However...you can invest a lil money and correct some of the things you feel are wrong. Since the manufacturer didn't make it as you desired it to be, why don't YOU make it that way!!! New struts, better tires and maybe reprogram the transmission???
Im happy that some people are satisfied with their cars. I am in the VERY large group that isn't.
As far as not being sport oriented, you are mistaken.
Hyundai touts this car as "Hyundai Azera offers an unprecedented combination of comfort, safety, perfomance and quality"
Hyundai also DIRECTLY compares this car to the following: Jaguar XJ Mercedes S Class (!!!) BMW 530 (!!!) Avalon BMW 760i (!!!)
I was unfortunate to not have discoverd the clunking before I bought it. I drove it 3 separate times before buying. Perhaps the one I drove the most did not suffer from the issue? I also took the demo up to 100mph on the test drive. I did not navigate any corners at that speed, wish I had.
I realized that i was buying a car that stickered for 30k, 25k after discounts. Heck I even discussed it with my Father who owns an M5 that it was a nice car FOR THE MONEY.
That's why I said I could overlook the other shortcomings. But with the clunking and rattling, it makes the other issues glaring.
I hate to say this, but performance isn't always sport oriented. Hyundai compares the Azera to those other cars when it comes to interior space (don't you pay attention to the ads???) There is no mention of the Hyundai competing with ANY of those cars (except for the Avalon) in any type of street performance. Trust me...Hyundai isn't that crazy.
Most folks don't navigate corners at 100 mph (even with 20" low profile tires...I won't), not in an Azera. Again, even I know this car isn't geared for that. The fact you did drive one that didn't have that issue would suggest that you need to address the issue with the service department and have it taken care of...there is a fix.
The fact that the Koreans landed this car in our laps, speaks volumes as nobody expected it. Did Lexus get it right on the first try...I don't think so. However, first crack at entry level luxury and they did better than a single, heck...they ALMOST hit an in park homer. They address the few minor issues and this car will be one to beat. Also, you gotta remember one thing as well...most 1st year models end up with issues like this and they get smoothed out.
In short, if you buy this car expecting entry level luxury...you get that. Granted, there are shortcomings, but...when it comes to bang for the buck...there's no other car that can compete! Honestly, I think you're being too critical in your expectations. In the end...it's not a Lexus, Acura or Infinity. Give them a few years and I guarantee folks won't laugh at the Hyundai brand any more.
I don't think allmet said to have low expectations. I read his post, and that isn't what it sounded like to me. But, obviously, don't expect a Lexus or Infinity when you buy a Hyundai. I mean, if you want that, then pay the $60,000 for a Lexus. I test drove numerous cars before buying the Azera, and I have to say that it has the best fit and finish and the most luxurious feel to it of any car in it's price range. I mean, we have to compare apples to apples. I really did enjoy reading this forum, but not so much anymore. Everyone is just bashing the Azera and bashing the ones who love their car and are trying to defend it. But, in the end, we each have to be happy with our purchase, and if anyone is not, then they should try to trade it in on something that will make them happier. My mother bought a Scion and within one month, she HATED that car. It had less than 600 miles on it, and she traded it in on a Corolla. (Both were new). She did take a depriciation hit, but she is much happier, and the loss of money is worth it to her peace of mind. I wish everyone who hates the Azera would do the same, and this forum might be enjoyable again. I'm not saying we shouldn't be able to voice our opinions, and ask for help if we have a problem, and even vent occasionally, but constantly trying to convince others that the Azera is a piece of junk is not fun. I love this car, and believe it was money well spent. If I have problems with it, then I'll post here and hopefully someone can advise me. The klunk has obviously made some very upset. I haven't heard it, or if I have, it must not be enough to get my attention. I'm too busy listening to the awesome sound system, and enjoying the smooth ride, I guess.
If you are unhappy reading the thoughts of other Azera owners, you are not forced to read them. The purpose of a forum is to discuss issues regarding your car. It is great that you love your car, but don't bury your head in the sand. If some method is possible to correct these issues they should be discussed. I, as well as many other owners are generally satisfied with the car, but would like the company to acknowledge the deficiencies and take some action to correct them. By the way, not all Lexus models are $60,000.00
Floridabob1...hardly my point. Christy7 seems to have understood exactly what I was getting at. If you're looking at a car that's in a certain price range then have realistic expectations. Come on now, just looking at the Azera evokes a positive emotion in almost everyone that looks at it, so to even think you'll low ball your expectations of this car is crazy.
If you go back to turbo's list of cars, you'll see where he got HIS comparisons from. Comparing sport coupes and sedans to an entry level luxury car is like comparing a dump truck to a pick up truck. Nowhere in any Hyundai literature do they state anything about sport tuned suspension. It may not have the same smooth ride of the Avalon, however...it certainly doesn't match the harshness of the Maxima either. Granted, it seems that they are having a few problems and I'm sure with enough complaints...a fix will be brought forth to satisfy all those with that very problem.
Also, for him to make a claim that a great number of folks have the same problem...I've seen a handful of posts from various owners mentioning it, but compared to the total number sold...I'm sure it's a small percentage. So...just because you see 10 different folks with a similar problem, don't assume that it's a widespread epidemic.
If your dealer is interested in keeping you as a valued customer, then he/she will do everything in their power to make sure your problem is corrected. If not, take your business to another dealership and explain how the 1st dealer treated you as if you were nuisance, I'm sure they'll want to impress you and receive your business. However, simply getting on the internet and complaining about it to all who will listen will only make your problem seem that much greater to YOU.
Oh yeah...I did read one article that talked about the tire pressure being one culprit. Try lowering the tire pressure to 30 psi and see if that brings you any better results.
I know that there are Lexus models available for less than $60,000. I didn't drive a Lexus before purchasing my car, because I knew that I didn't want to go up any higher than $30,000. I'm sure that even their entry level car would end up being higher than 30,000, if equipped the way I wanted it. But, the point of my post was to compare apples to apples when discussing the deficiencies and positives of the different cars.
Good posts/points allmet. While no car is perfect, and I do experience the "klunk" which sounds more like a worn bushing, overall the car has been excellent. No squeaks or rattles, nothing. I did have a couple of diodes in my tail light go out, but my dealer has a new unit ready to install. Turbo, buyers remorse is a mutha, but try to see the glass as half full. Hyundai should resolve these issues in time. Like someone said, first year cars will have issues and once Hyundai smoothes these out, this car will really be excellent.
Great posts. When I purchased the Azera, I went into it accepting the fact that it was a first year run and that I may experince some problems. Am happy to report none yet and it will be a year in Dec. I took a chance on it after test driving a couple of Avalons, mind you this was a second year run for them, and both hesitated on take off and exhibited rattles and one also had a squeek. Road and suspension noise were about equal to me in both the Azera and Avalon. At least we are not experiencing the kinds of problems I have been reading about in the 2007 Camry forums. And how right you are about comparing apples to apples. I too enjoy the incredible sound system, so if there were any klunks or rattles I wouldn't hear them anyway.
I have never stated that I hate my car. It has some great looks and features. But unlike the Scion that you said your mom bought and hated, the Azera was touted as a luxury car. The press releases used Lexus as a comparison. My main gripe is that the corporate Consumer Affairs department has done little or nothing to work with engineering to iron out the problems. I am always told by the representative that they are not technically knowledgeable, but yet they can not go to engineering, and must ask their, or your questions of your local dealer, The dealers are frustrated because they are not getting enough information from the company. The circle keeps going on. The dramatic discounts offered on the Azera seem to indicate the buyers are wary. I don't believe that one could get anything near the percentage discounts from MSRP on any of the competition. I have no idea what the sale or trade in value is for the 06 Azera.
Christy...it's funny because here in the MD/DC area, the problem seems to be techs that don't know much and they always have to call into Corporate to get any answers. There is one service dept. I go to that has one of Hyundai's top techs as it's manager and he's VERY knowledgable.
While Hyundai's products have gotten much better than in the past, it seems their next overhaul would need to be customer service. In some cases, it depends on which dealership you happen to go to. Some just seem to "get it" and realize that the customer is their reason for being. They treat you like they want your repeat business. On the other hand, you have those that want to treat you like you're a problem and a waste of time. I believe Hyundai Corporate needs to step up and get out to all their dealers and make sure that ALL of them are on the same page.
I know one thing, if they plan on dropping the Equus (step above the Azera) on the American consumer, they had better get their ducks lined up. It's taken a minute for consumers to digest paying $26K for a Hyundai (considering their past). I'm sure when the Equus hits...it's going to go for just over $30K. All I can say is...if they want to be respected as a maker that can put out a luxury product, then they better start making sure the consumer is respected when it comes to issues and problems.
First of all, I do want to clarify I'm not from Goldsboro Hyundai. I promise! LOL
Floridabob1, to add to what allmet33 and Christy7 said you have to remember that it's generally only people who are in love with their cars or who have problems with them that go posting on the web. I promise you there is an overwhelming silent majority that are more than satisfied with their purchase. And that's for ANY car, not just the Azera.
Before this car, I had a Chrysler Sebring that I had bought used and was on the web within a week because the rear window was coming apart from the convertable top. Prior to that I had an Acura TL which I loved and raved on and on about. I wish I still had it, but hey... divorce sucks. But other than that, I hadn't had the desire to post about my other rides, although they were more than adequate (Galant), and even enjoyable (Montero Sport).
I guess what I'm rambling on too much about is we do understand your frustrations and empathize. But at this point in time, we don't buy into your notion that the car is a POS, or even anything less than advertised...
I'm part of the "overwhelming silent majority" that really loves the Azera. I have owned my 2007 Azera for 3 weeks and purchased it after renting one on a one week vacation. The car has performed excellently with no problems to report. I really love the; power, handling, ride, quietness, stereo, styling, etc. from this car. Yesterday, I found out that if you have the two driver selection button, then the key fob can be programmed to adjust 16 functions unique to each driver such as; tilting mirror, moving seat, one click open all doors, etc. I plan on having the dealer program my key fob on my first oil change. So far a great car at an excellent price.
If the key fob memory settings has been introduced in the 07, it would be a great improvement. Hyundai did have that feature in the XL350 prior to 05, but for some strange reason eliminated it in the 05 350, and did not include it on the 06 Azera. Let us know if your dealer is able to acomplish this feat. Do any other 07 owners have any input on this topic?
Epikac...Floridabob1 may have a couple issues with his Azera, but I don't think he feels that it's a POS. The poster behind that notion was Cbrturbo...he's the one stating that a "Buyer Beware" alert should be created concerning the Azera.
I can honestly say, in the 7 months of ownership, what you get for the money more than makes up for the few shortcomings the Azera may have. Considering the price you pay...there is no way you can expect to find anything, by any other maker that will give you what the Azera gives you for the price.
Hey...they may not have hit a bullseye with this first shot, but they got awfully close. With a few refinements...this car will set a benchmark for what the auto world can expect in the sense of value luxury.
Personally, I was biased about the Azera after my 4 years of owning an '02 Sonata with not one single problem. I put 105K miles on that car before trading it in and by then...my mind had been made up concerning Hyundai quality. Like I said earlier, they're not quite there, but they are certainly making the other manufacturers nervous!!!
Oh, and one more thing..even ricwhite who seemed to HATE his car early on states that it is the best car he has ever owned.
Hate? I wouldn't go that far. The biggest problem I had with the Azera was with crash test results. I thought the 4-star frontal rating and test numbers were WAY too poor for a new model engineered to be one of the safest on the road and tauted as "class leading" in safety. Even my 1990 Ford Taurus had better frontal crash test numbers than the Azera.
However, overall -- frontal, side, and rear crash numbers-- as well as other safety features make the Azera a fairly safe automobile.
I got into a lot of debate over the crash numbers especially since Hyundai itself advertised the Azera as a "five-star" crash test vehicle. It turned out differently and I was quite upset. Still am to some degree.
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New to this forum, and from Bradenton FL, bought from the biggie dealer in-area. Airbag light on-dash brought me back early for diagnosis; part ordered for something in steering column. Part arrives, another trip in.. calls w/in 20 min. of dropping to report "it's not that part, it's a seatbelt module, come & get your car back" for another week of driving w/no airbag deploy-ability??!
Speaking w/svc. mgr for 1st. time ever, he advised re: policy of "one part at a time" ordering system, to avoid dealers stealing parts into inventory, sent for warranty work. So, if the tech. finds 3 possible items to solve a problem, Hyundai only allows one part ordered at a time, to attend to the problem! Have fun w/that waiting game?!
AND, "I'd never have let you leave the first diagnosis without a loaner vehicle!" He oughto've communicated this policy to his front desk team, who sent me off for a week+, driving the I'state daily 20+ miles one way for work! Imagine a wreck, and the liability to the brand for not providing safe loaner vehicles for safety-related issues on the "safest model on the road" no less!
I'm finding all the input interesting from other folks, thanks! Looking like shopping for dealers who've done their training on this new model may be worth the work!
Only other thing is the glass cleaning; not a detail freak, but having a heck of a time keeping window glass nice! Finally, a hand-held item from LinensNThings for glass cleaning (one of those goofy TV items!), paired up w/a glass wipe product laid onto the hand-held pad, will easily do a great job on the interior of these massive window surfaces! Fold a paper towel into quarters for a finish, after the wet-wiper! Dealer sales guy advises that the interior-plastic/leather exudes a quantity of "stuff" that coats the windows upon new.. I'm still working on this after 6K miles!
All-in-all though, after a long day at a supermarket job, covering 3miles+ on foot all day, to fall into my Venetian Blue/Beige beauty, set the air on cold, the seats on hot, and the classical music on high.. you just can't complain too much, eh?!
It's called "headlight cutoff". You might search the forum or Google for "headlight cutoff".
2 weeks ago I purchased my new Azera. Actually I purchased it about 3.5 weeks ago, but had to wait for my Black on Black to come from the port. During that week while I was waiting, I drove a new Sonata, and was very pleased with that car. Extremely solid, powerful, roomy. And then the dealership called to tell me my Azera was in and ready.
I'm so happy I waited for the color I wanted. The black interior is absolutely gorgeous - really more of a dark charcoal color. The fake wood trim is a lighter maple color and really pops out against the dark interior.
Anyway, this is my first Hyundai and I was a little unsure of owning one. Folks - I am very sure now - this may be my most favorite car ever - and there is usually a new car in the stable every year or two. It's gorgeous, fast, stable, and very luxurious. And is it me or does this car feel giant from behind the wheel? I still have no idea where the back end is - backing into my driveway - I think I am about 8 inches from the garage door. I get out and OPPS! five feet to go.
I am a real estate broker - and I must say - the perfect car for my business. I've already had clients ask me - what is this? Lexus? Or the best yet - yesterday a client is riding with me, were chatting about properties, but she keeps touching the car inside, the dash, the buttons. Then she suddenly kind of jumps up - Is this a HYUNDAI????!! It was great.
Anyway - love the car - and highly recommend.
A few quirks. Rattle from rear sub-woofer. The front seats keep attacking the buttons on my slacks back pocket.
Right now, the only thing I have an issue with is the headlights have started flickering while driving. When I'm sitting at a light or parked...they stay constant. As soon as I pull off, am in motion or coming to a stop...they flicker occassionally. Hopefully, the service department will be able to take care of it.
Other than that...I'm VERY happy with my 'Zera and plan on having it for quite some time.
Dogbeau...the subwoofer may not be the problem, check the covers to the child seat anchors up on your rear deck. They could be vibrating when the bass hits. Every once in a while I have to reach back there and press them down real good and the problem goes away. My new problem is vibrations coming from the rear doors, so I have to yank the panels and install some dynamat!
Welcome to the ever-growing Azera family!!! :shades:
JJTee
wa40
Does ignition key have to be inserted before memory seats work?
Do power pedals have momory setting?
I hope they made those corrections for 07.
It's everything it's been advertised to be, and I hope it continues to be.
Anyway, just saying hi!
The dealer most likely has to activate the auto-door lack feature ... that was true for my '06 Sonata LX. I'm thinking of trading it for an Azera; my only concerns: the Sonata gets 24 MPG in town, and it has an exceptional safety record. It has a lot of road noise, however, unless the pavement is smooth. Any thoughts, Azera drivers? Yes or no to the trade? :P
Make sure you get 3 keys to open the doors. They forgot to give me the valet key so the dealer ended up and had to give me a whole new set of keys. Now I've got 4 keys (total amount the car will accept) Don't lose them as they will be expensive to replace.
The sub woofer would vibrate and I couldn't properly enjoy the 315 watt stereo system. I realized that it was the child latches vibrating. I fixed it by putting double sided padded tape between the metal latch and frame. You can't see a thing.....................Wow did I see a difference and now able to crank up the volume to full capacity of the system.
Impressive car, several times people have pulled me over just to see the Azera and it really turns heads and the comfort level with this car is awesome.
I truly don't feel it's something worth creating a "Buyer Beware" alert. One thing you have to remember...there's one heck of a warranty backing this car, and if you're dealing with a great service department, it's nothing more than a minor hiccup really.
Without the utterly aggravating clunk/rattle, i could overlook:
-the sloppy transmission shifting
-the floor it and wait forever to downshift problem
-the huge gaps in the door to dash alignment
-the silly useless wheel mounted stereo controls on the 06 model
-the excessive driveline lash
-the horrible traction control that lets the wheels spin and the horrible axle tramp
-the electrochromatic mirror that has no adjustments that lets the light from the back shine just a bit to bright in your eyes at night
-the noisy suspension (that's right it's noisy before you hear the dreaded azera clunk)
-the total lack of lateral support in the seats
-the suspension wallow in corners, yes folks it's a white knuckler if you like spirited driving. best of both worlds, feel every bump yet wallow in the corners!!
-abysmal gas mileage
I really wanted to love this car. I tried. I sat in the car and adored the aroma of the leather, gazed at the lovely dash layout, but then everytime i tried to love it and justify the ridicously large cash layout for such a poorly operating automobile, then i put it into reverse, drive out to the main road and clunk and rattle my way to work, and wish i had never bought this car.
mine include:
93 VW Corrado SLC (new)
94 RX7 (new)
94 Acura Legend (used)
97 Grand Prix GTP (new)
97 BMW 540i (new)
All of them were so much better than the Azera at doing what they were intended to do, and for crying out loud the only thing the Azera has better than the worst car on that list (pontiac of course) was nicer leather and a bit more hp.
heck, i didn't list the 2001 dodge dakota quad cab, and even that made me happier than the azera! not to mention the honda civic ex i just got driving for almost 4 years. you would think i would be thrilled going to the azera after a civic ex, but i am so regretting trading that in for this piece of crap.
I absolutely love the car. It is very comfortable while driving. I drive approx. 500 miles a week for my job, so I've been able to test that out. It has so many features that are in my opinion a luxury. The rain sensing wipers and auto headlights for instance.
Anyway, I think it is a great car for the money, and I am hoping not to experience the klunk.
Christy
You seem fairly bitter, cbrturbo. I went from a VW Passat to the Azera and feel the Azera is a MUCH better vehicle. I have relatives that are Lexus and Acura owners and when we have group outings, they prefer to take the Azera to travel. All of them feel that, for the money, the Azera is a great car.
However, I DO agree with some of your points. The shifting is still not comfortable. I think the Passat had a great transmission and VERY predictable shifts which could be easily manipulated. The Azera is what I would term a "tricky" shifter. It's hard to get a handle on.
I have lag problems on shifting when the vehicle is cold -- especially with "wide open throttle". I know there's a service bulletin on this, but I haven't had the time to take it in yet.
No alignment problems with my car. I don't mind the steering wheel controls.
There is a little "hopping" with the tires on hard acceleration, but it smooths out very quickly.
The gas mileage is lower than my Passat by about 2 miles per gallon. I'm averaging 18 city and 28 highway. The Passat averaged 20 city and about 30 highway. But with that loss of 2 MPG, I am getting about 75 more horsepower. Okay tradeoff in my book.
There is also a little clanking over rough roads. I have learned to avoid potholes and other rough surfaces because of it.
Overall, I've been pleased with the Azera. The ride on smooth roads is excellent and the features for the price are very good. It's been the best car I've owned to date (Toyota Celica, Chevrolet Spectrum, Ford Taurus, VW Passat).
The only obvious issue is a shimmy in the steering wheel at 60+ MPH. The dealer already scheduled an appt for me this Saturday.
I promise to follow up; stay tuned.
The Azera is a good car, but would be so much better if the company would listen to the few repeating issues of owners and at least respond. They always deny any knowledge of other similar complaints and send you back to yhe local dealer. The Consumer Affairs people state that they are not allowed to speak or contact "engineering" and if they have technical questions they are instrucyed to contact your local dealer. It appears to be backward. The dealer should be contacting corporate for assistance.
Keep complaining. Maybe they will get the message.
I've had 6 Acura TL's (2 car family), Legend, Sterling, Maxima, Diamante and a bunch of Buick Electras to name a few.
I am a senior citizen now and I don't expect the Azzy to respond to flooring the throttle. If I wanted a "hot rod" I would have looked at a Corvette or the like. This car performs exactly as "advertised" a sensible touring sedan with all the features of entry level luxury. Granted that the suspension is a nagging problem to many but that doesn't mean one has to "dismantle" this car as if it were a hunk of junk. I suggest that you purchased the wrong type of car because if it was a "muscle" car you were hoping for this is not it.
Hope you can adjust in time or you may need to consider trading out to save your sanity. Good luck.
Sounds to me like you were caught up in the romance of a new vehicle without being thorough in your approach.
The transmission shifts according to a pattern it learns from the way you drive...could be sloppy driving habits. Mine shifts fine. Only point I'll agree on is the lag in shift when you press the gas pedal down, however...easily overcome by switching to manual mode.
If huge gaps were a problem, you should have pointed it out and asked to see another car to see if it had the same problem.
The steering wheel remote for the radio seems to have been an afterthought, but it's not the end of the world. Again...something you defintely knew about before purchasing.
Not sure what you mean about driveline lash.
The traction control kicks in to stop excessive spin.
If headlights are too bright even with the electrochromatic feature turned on on the rearview mirror (you do know you have to turn it on, right), then raise your rear window screen to diffuse the light, or...get tinted windows.
The suspension on my Azera is quiet and well mannered until you go over extremely sharp bumps faster than you should.
Lateral support is for sports cars, the Azera is Korean luxury, seems you're tryin to make a work horse our of a show horse.
As far as the suspension goes, it's more than capable of handling spirited driving on curvy roads. One way to enhance handling performance is to get some tires that are made for that type of driving. The Michelins that come standard on the Azera...well, they just aren't the best for that. I've changed to 20" wheels with 245/35-20 tires and body roll is almost eliminated since there's no more tire lean available when I turn.
Gas mileage isn't the greatest, I'll agree...but with everything you get for the price, it was enough to get me to look the other way on that issue.
Have you addressed any of the suspension issues with your service department? Have you bothered driving another Azera to see if you came across the same issues? You claim a large cash layout and yet...FULLY loaded, you can get the Azera for around $26K. Seems to me you were expecting quality in the terms of Lexus or Infinity. The reality of it is...it's still Hyundai. While not in the top echelon of luxury quality, they've made huge strides from where they used to be.
Yeah...you messed up thinking you could go from a race horse to a pony ride and get the same thing. Just admit you shopped the wrong vehicle. However...you can invest a lil money and correct some of the things you feel are wrong. Since the manufacturer didn't make it as you desired it to be, why don't YOU make it that way!!! New struts, better tires and maybe reprogram the transmission???
As far as not being sport oriented, you are mistaken.
Hyundai touts this car as "Hyundai Azera offers an unprecedented combination of comfort, safety, perfomance and quality"
Hyundai also DIRECTLY compares this car to the following:
Jaguar XJ
Mercedes S Class (!!!)
BMW 530 (!!!)
Avalon
BMW 760i (!!!)
I was unfortunate to not have discoverd the clunking before I bought it. I drove it 3 separate times before buying. Perhaps the one I drove the most did not suffer from the issue? I also took the demo up to 100mph on the test drive. I did not navigate any corners at that speed, wish I had.
I realized that i was buying a car that stickered for 30k, 25k after discounts. Heck I even discussed it with my Father who owns an M5 that it was a nice car FOR THE MONEY.
That's why I said I could overlook the other shortcomings. But with the clunking and rattling, it makes the other issues glaring.
Most folks don't navigate corners at 100 mph (even with 20" low profile tires...I won't), not in an Azera. Again, even I know this car isn't geared for that. The fact you did drive one that didn't have that issue would suggest that you need to address the issue with the service department and have it taken care of...there is a fix.
The fact that the Koreans landed this car in our laps, speaks volumes as nobody expected it. Did Lexus get it right on the first try...I don't think so. However, first crack at entry level luxury and they did better than a single, heck...they ALMOST hit an in park homer. They address the few minor issues and this car will be one to beat. Also, you gotta remember one thing as well...most 1st year models end up with issues like this and they get smoothed out.
In short, if you buy this car expecting entry level luxury...you get that. Granted, there are shortcomings, but...when it comes to bang for the buck...there's no other car that can compete! Honestly, I think you're being too critical in your expectations. In the end...it's not a Lexus, Acura or Infinity. Give them a few years and I guarantee folks won't laugh at the Hyundai brand any more.
Hardly a great marketing strategy.
I love this car, and believe it was money well spent. If I have problems with it, then I'll post here and hopefully someone can advise me.
The klunk has obviously made some very upset. I haven't heard it, or if I have, it must not be enough to get my attention. I'm too busy listening to the awesome sound system, and enjoying the smooth ride, I guess.
By the way, not all Lexus models are $60,000.00
If you go back to turbo's list of cars, you'll see where he got HIS comparisons from. Comparing sport coupes and sedans to an entry level luxury car is like comparing a dump truck to a pick up truck. Nowhere in any Hyundai literature do they state anything about sport tuned suspension. It may not have the same smooth ride of the Avalon, however...it certainly doesn't match the harshness of the Maxima either. Granted, it seems that they are having a few problems and I'm sure with enough complaints...a fix will be brought forth to satisfy all those with that very problem.
Also, for him to make a claim that a great number of folks have the same problem...I've seen a handful of posts from various owners mentioning it, but compared to the total number sold...I'm sure it's a small percentage. So...just because you see 10 different folks with a similar problem, don't assume that it's a widespread epidemic.
If your dealer is interested in keeping you as a valued customer, then he/she will do everything in their power to make sure your problem is corrected. If not, take your business to another dealership and explain how the 1st dealer treated you as if you were nuisance, I'm sure they'll want to impress you and receive your business. However, simply getting on the internet and complaining about it to all who will listen will only make your problem seem that much greater to YOU.
Oh yeah...I did read one article that talked about the tire pressure being one culprit. Try lowering the tire pressure to 30 psi and see if that brings you any better results.
My main gripe is that the corporate Consumer Affairs department has done little or nothing to work with engineering to iron out the problems. I am always told by the representative that they are not technically knowledgeable, but yet they can not go to engineering, and must ask their, or your questions of your local dealer,
The dealers are frustrated because they are not getting enough information from the company. The circle keeps going on. The dramatic discounts offered on the Azera seem to indicate the buyers are wary. I don't believe that one could get anything near the percentage discounts from MSRP on any of the competition. I have no idea what the sale or trade in value is for the 06 Azera.
While Hyundai's products have gotten much better than in the past, it seems their next overhaul would need to be customer service. In some cases, it depends on which dealership you happen to go to. Some just seem to "get it" and realize that the customer is their reason for being. They treat you like they want your repeat business. On the other hand, you have those that want to treat you like you're a problem and a waste of time. I believe Hyundai Corporate needs to step up and get out to all their dealers and make sure that ALL of them are on the same page.
I know one thing, if they plan on dropping the Equus (step above the Azera) on the American consumer, they had better get their ducks lined up. It's taken a minute for consumers to digest paying $26K for a Hyundai (considering their past). I'm sure when the Equus hits...it's going to go for just over $30K. All I can say is...if they want to be respected as a maker that can put out a luxury product, then they better start making sure the consumer is respected when it comes to issues and problems.
Floridabob1, to add to what allmet33 and Christy7 said you have to remember that it's generally only people who are in love with their cars or who have problems with them that go posting on the web. I promise you there is an overwhelming silent majority that are more than satisfied with their purchase. And that's for ANY car, not just the Azera.
Before this car, I had a Chrysler Sebring that I had bought used and was on the web within a week because the rear window was coming apart from the convertable top. Prior to that I had an Acura TL which I loved and raved on and on about. I wish I still had it, but hey... divorce sucks. But other than that, I hadn't had the desire to post about my other rides, although they were more than adequate (Galant), and even enjoyable (Montero Sport).
I guess what I'm rambling on too much about is we do understand your frustrations and empathize. But at this point in time, we don't buy into your notion that the car is a POS, or even anything less than advertised...
Let us know if your dealer is able to acomplish this feat.
Do any other 07 owners have any input on this topic?
BTW, I'm also a part of that 'silent majority'
I can honestly say, in the 7 months of ownership, what you get for the money more than makes up for the few shortcomings the Azera may have. Considering the price you pay...there is no way you can expect to find anything, by any other maker that will give you what the Azera gives you for the price.
Hey...they may not have hit a bullseye with this first shot, but they got awfully close. With a few refinements...this car will set a benchmark for what the auto world can expect in the sense of value luxury.
Personally, I was biased about the Azera after my 4 years of owning an '02 Sonata with not one single problem. I put 105K miles on that car before trading it in and by then...my mind had been made up concerning Hyundai quality. Like I said earlier, they're not quite there, but they are certainly making the other manufacturers nervous!!!
Oh, and one more thing..even ricwhite who seemed to HATE his car early on states that it is the best car he has ever owned.
Hate? I wouldn't go that far. The biggest problem I had with the Azera was with crash test results. I thought the 4-star frontal rating and test numbers were WAY too poor for a new model engineered to be one of the safest on the road and tauted as "class leading" in safety. Even my 1990 Ford Taurus had better frontal crash test numbers than the Azera.
However, overall -- frontal, side, and rear crash numbers-- as well as other safety features make the Azera a fairly safe automobile.
I got into a lot of debate over the crash numbers especially since Hyundai itself advertised the Azera as a "five-star" crash test vehicle. It turned out differently and I was quite upset. Still am to some degree.
some mileage data. A trip to Calf.-- about 1500
hundred miles.
68 miles=13.3 (in town). The rest of the miles listed are on the road.
359 miles=25.6
344 miles=29.9
323 miles=31.3
337 miles=32.1
1432 miles used 51.5 gallons for an average of
27.8. This was about 60 miles an hour average.
Not to bad for a big car!!
Cannot seem to be able to lock doors from inside.Manually or using the switch.Any suggestions?
Car ran perfect on the trip!!