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BMW 3-Series Tires and Wheels



  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850

    That won't work... the 323i had smaller rotors than the 330's, 328's, and I think even the 325's. If you go to tirerack and put in the 330, only one sixteen inch wheel shows up. If you put in the 323, there are 9 choices.

    When I got my 330Ci, I wanted to go with a 16" winter setup. At that time, there was also only one 16" wheel that would fit over the rotors (ATA brand if I remember correctly). It was different from the one that's currently there so there may be other choices available elsewhere.
  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    If you decide to go with 17's, I would probably try to find a set of the 7-spoke BMW wheels that came on the sport-pack 323's and 325's. They're 8" wide and will support either 225's or 235's on all corners. There was a guy who used to hang around these boards (braveheart1) who did a lot of track work and swore by his 235 setup.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    You're right, I didn't even think about the rotors being bigger on the later E46's.

    BTW, the rotors would have been "ATE", not "ATA." Other than that grievous error, you're completely correct. :blush:
  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    Grieve no more... I was talking about the brand of the 16" wheels that fit over the rotors... but I think I got it wrong anyway... ASA, not ATA, was the brand, I believe.
  • My apologies for being away from the boards (its tax time of year!)
    And thanks for the generous responses and opinions to my questions about the wheel size and tire for summer sport driving.

    It sounds like finding the right size 16" wheel is a challenge ... I do have 17" x 7 now - what would be the adv/disadv of using the 7" width vs the 17x8" widths ?
    And what size tire would fit the wheels?
    One fellow told me that 17s would be great with 225s ... but I don't know what wheel width he was considering....

    I hate the idea of going to a tire store and buying what they want to sell me vs what I determine I need! But I need to define those needs better!
    Comments/ help????
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 9,462
    I hate the idea of going to a tire store and buying what they want to sell me vs what I determine I need! But I need to define those needs better!
    Comments/ help????

    I strongly suggest calling Tire Rack and speaking with one of their sales advisors. I'd be willing to bet that fewer than one in twenty tire store salespeople know anything about selecting the right tire for a true performance car. I've used Tire Rack exclusively since 1992 with zero complaints.
    Call 'em.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2004 X3 2.5i Son's: 2009 328i

  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    I agree... call Tire Rack! They're extremely helpful and will be able to tell you your options.
  • Thanks for the endorsements. I will talk to Tire Rack.

    It appears that the recommended wheel sizes for my 330ci are 8 x 8.5, with a less expensive but recommended alternative as 7 x 8.5 [not staggered, same sizes all around]... my stock wheels are 7 x 7.0. the larger wheels would be for summer driving schools and around town use.

    Anybody have experience with these?
  • kathyc2kathyc2 Posts: 159
    Love my 2002 325 manual convertible. I've had it for 2 years, and haven't driven it much in snow- live in Northern IN. My son will be needing the Gran Prix I've been driving in the winter. Will snow tires make it similar to getting around in snow as my front wheel car?
    I'd really rather not add a 3rd vehicle. My division doesn't always get plowed out early, and I would be need to drive thru a few inches of snow on a semi-regular basis. Any one out there who has experience doing this? Suggestions?
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,833
    There's a discussion called BMW 3 Series Tires & Wheels -- hit the link above for BMW 3-series & run down the list of topics until you find it. It contains several hundred posts & what you'll find is that good cold-weather tires on a RWD car make a world of difference -- all good.

    Buy the tires & a set of cheap wheels for use in the winter.

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Good suggestion, cdnpinhead, I moved the posts here. :)
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    "Will snow tires make it similar to getting around in snow as my front wheel car? "

  • kathyc2kathyc2 Posts: 159
    Help! I'm feeling like a dumb blonde here, never a clue there was all this difference in tires. Obviously, my mechanic is no help, since he just told me I have all season tires on my 325 convertible now. I also have the sport package on it.
    Currently I have Bridgestone Turanza E30 225 45ZR17 91W, which Tire Rack lists as summer touring tires. These tires do need to be replaced because of tread wear, so I have to get some kind of new tires now.
    Do I buy summer tires now and then winter tires when it snows, or would replacing them w/ all season get me thru the snow?
    I love the way the car handles now. Would the all season reduce the crisp handling? I wouldn't say I drive it hard, but I do like to take the curvy, twisty roads.
    I wouldn't mind feeling every bump on the road a little less ;-)
    It would be nice to not have to find room in my garage to store extra tires, and ask someone with a pick-up to transport them for me twice a year.
    I've never really driven this car in the winter, but on the couple occasions I got caught in unexpected snow, it wasn't fun. Situation has changed, and I want to make the car my year round primary vehicle now.
    Any help from you guru's is much appreciated.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    It depends on where you live and just how often and how much snow/ice you expect to drive through.
  • kathyc2kathyc2 Posts: 159
    Northern Indiana. It's not unusual to have to drive thru 3-4 inches, since the county doesn't always get around real early. Also, my drive is sloped, not steep but sloped enough to notice it. I've driven my Gran Prix 7 years in this weather and only had a couple problems. Looking for something that will get me close to that snow-ability.
    I thought if I get all-season and they don't cut it, I could always then go w/ winter after the snow starts. But I don't know how much handling I would loose w/ an all season over a summer tire in the summer months?
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    The summer tires you currently have are not known for high performance. They are designed for a smooth and quiet ride (and they're one of the best tires in that category).

    If you go with a high-performance all-season, your handling will actually improve, but you'll sacrifice some quietness. All-season tires are basically a year-round compromise - they aren't the best at anything, but they are solid performers in all areas.

    As for actual snow traction, I've gotten by with all-seasons during our infrequent snow storms here in Seattle, but they are not confident in the snow. If you are careful and don't try to go up/down too steep hills, you will be OK. Probably.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 53,725
    but... when did you get this car? If you had it last year, did you drive it on the summer tires in the winter?


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  • kathyc2kathyc2 Posts: 159
    I've had the 325 for 2 years. I have my Gran Prix that I would drive in the winter, and the Bimmer in the summer. My son is going to be needing the GP this winter, and I don't want to add a third car. So, I'm seeing what I need to do the make the 325 a year round car. Getting caught in an unexpected snow storm on the interstate last Thanksgiving was not fun! But it sounds like with the correct tires I'll be okay.
    I'm heading out to the tire store, and hope with what I've learned here and what they tell me, I'll be able to make a good choice.

    Thanks all.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 9,462
    You really should check Tire Rack.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2004 X3 2.5i Son's: 2009 328i

  • kathyc2kathyc2 Posts: 159
    I only live about 40 minutes from Tire Rack headquarters, so I went there and they put me in a set of Turanga Serenity. So far, they feel very good on the car, a lot quieter than what I had before.

    Hope they work on the white stuff this winter.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 9,462
    A good choice; they should work fine.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2004 X3 2.5i Son's: 2009 328i

  • mmcviemmcvie Posts: 1
    I'm very close to purchasing a 335xi.. However the model in stock has the Sport Package with the optional 18" Performance wheel/tires. While I love the looks of this wheel, I live in Colorado and a "summer only" tire is not for me. And as you all know, they don't make an 18" RFT all-season. So I would have to go with Non-RFT All Season and carry a sealant/inflator kit. My gut tells me to go with the 17" all season tire/wheel package that's standard with the Sport Package. Can anyone tell me if the 18" wheel has any other benefits (other than it's looks or cornering) that would warrant going with it? Thanks
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 9,462
    Can anyone tell me if the 18" wheel has any other benefits (other than it's looks or cornering) that would warrant going with it? Thanks

    If the car isn't going to see the track or autocross course I would go with the 17" wheels. You might also find the ride to be a bit more compliant and the 17" wheels will be less prone to damage from potholes and such.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2004 X3 2.5i Son's: 2009 328i

  • gordonwdgordonwd Posts: 337
    I put a set of snows on my '04 325i for the first time this winter (Dunlop WinterSport). Good thing, too, as we had a much snowier season than the first years that I owned the car.

    I would have to say that my 325 with the full set of snow tires was better in the snow than my previous Audi A4 with all-wheel drive and the OEM all-season tires.

    Just my experience. I also had them mounted at a shop that stores my alternate set of tires, so I just take the car there twice a year to have them swapped. Unfortunately, the price seems to go up every time, but for now it beats trying to store them at home.
  • gogonowgogonow Posts: 5
    Was really educated by the folks on this site.

    Like JingleJill...have a 2003 BMW 330ci (sports package with 17 ZR) south Texas....Austin.....between this website and TONS of reading and research....settled on the GENERAL Exclaim UHP....380/91W/AA/A them for $80 a a $50 dollar rebate back from Continental/General.......for 360$ at my door....50 bucks to come via rebate....and add $80 for 4 installed......ANYWAY, replaced OEM MIcheline only has 35K......

    The GENERAL tires are awesome!!!!!!!! Like JingleJill...we obviously have no snow....HOTTER than heck....and then when there is the occasional ICE....we stay home because of the steep hills......

    The tires HUG the road and are super quiet in their first 2500K......should be relative to the 35K Michelins, right!!!!

    We drive aggressively of twisty roads here every holds the road like we are riding on rails.

    Had previously replaced the back 2 with Michelins....for 210$ EACH!!!!! at 80 bucks each AND THE VERY HIGH RATINGS FROM USERS AT the TIRERACK site.....figure at $80 dollars each.....we can afford to have them wear out early!

    Here is a separate question for SHIPO and the what spec would you replace your rear rotors? Have multiple maintenance or extended warranties on this replaced pads last week but NOT the rotors!


    the student
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    He replaced the pads and not the rotors? :confuse: That's the first I've heard of a dealer doing that.

    FWIW, rotors for your car aren't all that expensive, however, unless you start feeling a pulsing in the brake pedal I'd leave them alone and run them until they're gone.

    Best Regards,
  • gogonowgogonow Posts: 5
    Thanks for your note! All of the work was covered by warranty. Here is what the invoice said..."rear rotors at 20.0 and 20.85MM and rear sensors were touching the rotors. Front breaks at 6MM. Removed and replaced the rear brake pads and sensor."

    What the service rep could not tell me....what is the minimum on the rotor before they'll replace it! He did not know and I was late so I had to leave ASAP. Was wondering if they were trying to avoid doing work that is covered by my extended maintenance plan. Can NOT find minimum rotor specs any where!


  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I don't have the number off-hand, however, the minimum thickness is stamped on all rotors.

    Best regards,
  • gogonowgogonow Posts: 5
    Will check it out!

    Thanks again for your valuable contribution to this site!

    Cheers from AUSTIN!
  • manybmwsmanybmws Posts: 347
    Yes the speed limiter is increased to 150 MPH if that means anything to you. I will be pickig up my 335xi Coupe in Gernmay in August and went with the 18s in addition to the Sports Package. I will get another set of 17" rims (prolly style 188s you are referring to with winter RFTs). There has also been some discussion that going with the 18s also gets an oil cooler added but not positive about this since some say they all come with oil coolers now.
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