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I feared my problem might be the leaking antifreeze that some have mentioned (which I believe is caused by a composite part which can warp and allow coolant to leak into the engine), but my service manager said if that been my problem, it would have involved more than one cylinder, and thus I would have gotten a more general misfire code. Just thought I'd pass that along for what it's worth.
Also, a friend suggested running a bottle of STP fuel injector cleaner through every time you change oil to avoid this problem; does anyone else have suggestions as to how frequently to do this, and/or any brand recommendations?
Run it through a tank of gas BEFORE you get your oil changed, as much of the crap that it cleans ends up in your oil.
Another good product is Red Line SI-1, which should also be used before you change your oil.
Those are high end products that probably only need to be used maybe once or twice a year. For routine fuel system cleaning, I use Chevron fuel system cleaner available at Costco for approx. $9 for a box of 4. Big savings over the auto parts store.
I've also heard good things from mechanics about Marvel Mystery Oil, which can be used in the gas tank for fuel system cleaning, and in the crankcase as an oil additive.
I have become a big believer in frequent transmission FLUSHES. I have our trans flushed every 35K miles. This gets out all of the left over transmission fluid which doesn't all drain out in a simple service.
On the cars (FWD) I've done this, I've gone well over 100K with no failures. I currently drive a '95 Olds Aurora with 95K miles(my wife enjoys our '02 Imp LS). I drive it hard with frequent forced downshifts into "go faster" gear without a peep of a problem .. (knocking rapidly on wood). I expect to get another 50K or so out of her.
Just my 2cents. Thought I'd pass along a maintenance tip that I'm a big believer in.
Larry
When you say it felt stuck in 3rd, do you mean it felt like it went through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd normally, but didn't shift to 4th? Or, that it felt like it started in 3rd, and stayed there?
There is a GM TSB regarding sticking transmission solenoids causing delayed shifts. Also, I, and others, have reported engine hesitation that was cured by a PCM software upgrade.
What kind of engine hesitation did you have, or if it's already posted do you know where I can read about it? Thanks very much
I am having the same exact problem with my '01 Impala LS with 18.5K miles on it.
Since just about a month ago, I started to detect a strong coolant smell coming from the engine compartment. There was still coolant in the recovery tank, albeit at or below the COLD mark (This is with a hot engine).
I have never had any overheating problems or any "Low Coolant" warning messages. However, knowing about the tendency of these cars to have warped intake manifolds with low miles, I decided to take the car in for a pressure test.
The pressure test, according to them, did not show any leaks in the system. They sent me home and again today the antifreeze smell has intensified. I checked the recovery tank and the little bit of antifreeze left there is well below the COLD mark (Engine is hot and the coolant should be at the HOT mark or at least halfway between HOT and COLD).
The car is going in tomorrow morning. This will be the second visit for the same problem. I have high suspicions about the gasket or the plastic intake manifold with a slow leak.
I checked the oil and it looks crystal clear and very clean. I have no white smoke coming out the pipe which would suggest coolant leaking into the engine.
Not happy about this, let's see what the dealer has to say.
They detected a slight leak from the intake manifold cooler gasket and fixed it. I was losing about a cup of coolant every 2 months. I also have creaking sounds from the front end of the car but they could not duplicate the problem since it is intermittent.
I just had a nice little chat with my service manager and he has asked me to bring in the car early tomorrow morning. He is aware that a pressure test was already done last month. He says that there is no doubt that a leak is present somewhere in the system. He also says that the strong smell suggests an external leak, not an internal one. Like I said in my previous post, I checked the oil and looks clean and have no white smoke coming out the tailpipe.
I hope the dealer can sort it out soon. Otherwise the car has been terrific and has been truly a pleasure to drive and own. However Coolant leaks and such mean serious reliability problems down the road.
I'll keep the board posted.
-Ryan
I did some research last night on the problem and it appears to be that defective gaskets/plastic manifolds are plaguing every single GM passenger car V6 engine there is (3.1, 3.4 and 3.8) and some V8 Vortec engines in the Full size trucks, Tahoes and Suburban derivatives.
I really like the 3800 V6 and trust its rock solid reliability reputation otherwise, but these gasket/manifold problems stain what is otherwise a very, very good engine.
If keeping yur Impala beyond the limited warranty, I highly recommend purchasing a good extended warranty contract, such as GM's major guard. For what I have read, this gasket can fail at least twice during the life of the car.
Some of you may remember my rants about my car smoking at start up after sitting for a while and about how the Chevy Service Stations of Southern Maryland weren't helping. Well, after nearly seven months and too many phone calls and letters, I recently received a 5 year/100,000 mile warranty from GM via the BBB. The car still smokes a bit and come summer when the temp goes up and the "it's cold outside and that cloud is condensation" excuse vanishes I plan to go for "round 2" with the service station now that I won't be paying for the repairs. Worst case, I spend a little time pressuring GM to admit and fix a problem then sell the car a week before the 5yrs is up.
Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know, you can beat "the man" (GM) if you don't give up.
later,
Nutz
thanks
peter from pgh pa
If a dealer is looking at it, his scanner will tell him exactly what the problem is. His ambiguity is troubling.
In Virginia I think a car that's acting like yours would fail the safety inspection.
I'm pretty sure this is temperature-related, it being -5F to -15F over here; however, I don't know whether it's just a fake warning or if there's a real problem. Is there a way to "reset" the warning code at home and see whether it resurfaces or should I just take it to the local dealer? (Who, btw, have never seen a 200x Impala before, so I wouldn't count on their expertise too much either)
Nevertheless, Happy New Year to everyone!
I've had this warning come on twice. Both times it was after I stepped on the gas, the wheels started spinning, and TC kicked in at almost the exact same instant as I pulled my foot off the gas. Immediately the "Trac Off" light, Service TC light, and another light (I think it was the brake light) came on. Kind of a christmas tree dash. Both times all I had to do was pull over, turn off the car and restart after a few seconds. Everything reset both times without issue. Both times were clearly just a weird software fluke.
I've been making hard use of both TC and ABS, including last night on my way home from work on very icy roads. Everything is working flawlessly.
Happy New Year everyone!
Brad
I took it to my local dealer several weeks ago but they could not find anything wrong with it.
The car stalled again and I brought it in yesterday and they replaced the fuel pump(under warranty). Hope this will fix it.
I picked up my car a couple of days ago and guess what! The shop put a 2001-03 bumper cover on my 2000 Impala. I like the 2000 cover much better than the new one. I don't like that trim. They told me that they couldn't get a 2000 cover. GM didn't make replacements. What!?
I have found many places on the web that have the 2000 cover.
Has anyone else heard of this?
Thanks in advance.
Since the Imp engine only holds 4.5 qts. with the filter if you're dumping the whole fifth qt. you may be burning more than you think??
If you are outside of warranty, expect to pay $800 for the warped manifold and gasket replacement. Mine was done under warranty and the repair took about 5 hours to complete, so you need to plan ahead and leave the car at the dealership for at least 1 day.
Believe it or not, it is cheaper to pay $800 now for a new manifold than $4K+ for a new engine. My service manager told me that I had brought the car in in the "Nick of time". Never leave it with a manifold intake coolant leak...It is a serious fault that needs to be remedied as soon as possible.
Good luck.
PS: My "Low Coolant" warning message never came on either. So don't think that everything is all right if the light never comes on.
My suggestion is just to keep the single car key attached to your remote entry keyfob and out all other unrelated keys and keychains elsewhere.
If you have experienced this problem in 2 separate cars, that tells me right away that you are using a very heavy keychain thus causing damage to your cylinder key lock.
-DN
I took a chance by not buying an extended warranty on this vehicle, primarily because I felt the drivetrain was pretty much "bullet proof"; having proven itself over the years. Even with this repair, I probably spent less than I would have initially for the warranty - I'm not sure how long the extension on the warranty would have run, but hopefully this is my last "big" issue (having already dealt with the warped brake rotors, and clunky steering shaft a couple of years ago). No guarantee the replacement manifold won't warp as well, but hopefully it will A) be another 47k miles from now, and be covered by a recall notice.
However, it's pretty annoying that GM has seen fit to use this plastic piece instead of a stronger metal (aluminum?) piece - either as a means of saving weight, money, or both. I limited my GM search to vehicles with the 3.8 engine; had I known this manifold problem existed, it is doubtful I would have chosen the Impala. Knowing about it now, I've got my doubts about ultimately replacing it with another GM vehicle.
I do know my wife is in the market for a new car to replace her '95 Geo Prizm, and based on her experience with that vehicle, my previous Toyota Celica experience, and my Impala experience; she's looking at Camrys - period.
1) "clunking" steering shaft (ISS) - fixed once under warranty; now in the early stages again.
2) "creaking" engine cradle - never addressed this; problem seems to have gone away.
3) Poor response from radio amp (the early "bad" amp which some folks went to the trouble to bypass; mine has not been replaced or bypassed).
4) Warped front rotors (resurfaced at my expense).
5) Intermittent air bag warning light; dealer can't replicate problem, or find any stored codes (guess I won't know until I actually have an accident if they'll work or not).
6) Loose seat back ( pops regularly, as if something is broken/loose - dealership says operation is "normal").
7) Warped intake manifold/gasket leak (repaired at my expense - hoping a recall occurs so I might get reimbursed).
About the only thing I haven't had happen to mine, which was a common problem with some others, is the rain channel trim coming loose.
The thing is, many of these things are "1st year" problems; which are to be expected to a degree. Most have simply been annoying. But the intake mainfold thing REALLY bothers me - the 3.8 engine was the primary reason for picking this particular vehicle. And the only known fix for the problem is to put a new copy of the exact same part back on - what's to keep it from failing as well?
If this group is any indication, GM has a big problem with this manifold part. I am going to start agitating through Chevrolet to get this addressed. Any other ideas?
My mechanic says the DexCool should never be allowed to stay in the car for more than 2 years despite what Chevrolet says.
As I understand it, there is a recall on the 3.8 engine, but only going up to the year 2000 (I don't remember the beginning year), and not including the Impala. But based on the reports here, I suspect (hope) it will get added to the list soon.
The repair was covered under warranty. The original factory manifold lasted for 21 months and 17K miles.
There is no recall on the plastic intake manifold and I doubt there will ever be one. The current TSB only applies to GM midsize sedans built between 1995-99 with the 3800 Series II engine. The TSB only suggests to replace the original plastic manifold in these cars with the current manifold part number which also happens to be warping in our current day Impalas!!!!
In 1995, GM released the Series II engine and one of the changes made to it was the switch from the aluminum intake to the current thermo plastic intake design/part. This is a big problem in the 3800 (Despite of what other claim to the contrary) and other V6 GM pushrod engines such as the 3.1 and the 3.4.
I am in the process of selling my car and the decision was partly influenced by the premature failure of the manifold intake. Great car, no doubt, but this manifold problems mars the otherwise reliable and smooth 3800 V6 engine.