Chevrolet Aveo Transmission Problems
Hi. I have the automatic in my 2006 hatchback...it is suppose to have only 4 speeds/gears...mine shifts 5 times! I know when a car shifts and the tach. changes speed as well. I have a 5 speed gearbox! Does anyone else have this in there automatic?
I thought it was a 5sp in the stick shift only. But I hit 5th gear at like 50mph. Do I have an odd model? Or is this in everyone elses automatic? The sticker says 4sp automatic. I sure am not getting a 5sp mpg! Still getting 18mpg if I drive like an old lady. I tried having fun in the car...I got 16mpg on that tank of gas! So..it's old lady driving for me again. but...anyone else notice they have 5 speeds in their automatic? :confuse:
I thought it was a 5sp in the stick shift only. But I hit 5th gear at like 50mph. Do I have an odd model? Or is this in everyone elses automatic? The sticker says 4sp automatic. I sure am not getting a 5sp mpg! Still getting 18mpg if I drive like an old lady. I tried having fun in the car...I got 16mpg on that tank of gas! So..it's old lady driving for me again. but...anyone else notice they have 5 speeds in their automatic? :confuse:
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I would bring the car back to the dealer on the mileage issue. City driving or not, no 2300 lb. car should get only 16-18 mpg. There may be a computer reset procedure that was never done before delivery that needs to be performed.
But it seems nearly eveyone here has poor mileage,even the reviews on the Aveo says it has poor mileage for such a small car. Oh how I miss my shot at a Yaris! Even at $3,000 more!
I thought it was a 5sp in the stick shift only. But I hit 5th gear at like 50mph. Do I have an odd model? Or is this in everyone elses automatic? The sticker says 4sp automatic. I sure am not getting a 5sp mpg! Still getting 18mpg if I drive like an old lady. I tried having fun in the car...I got 16mpg on that tank of gas! So..it's old lady driving for me again. but...anyone else notice they have 5 speeds in their automatic?"
I don't have an answer for your low gas mileage but I do have a theory about your "5th" gear.
The '06 models are equiped with an electronic throttle instead of the throttle-by-wire system found in the '04 and '05 models. This is what I've noticed on my '06: The car actually only has 4 gears but when it reaches a certian speed the ECU or electronic throttle control goes into a kind of cruise state.
As far as your gas mileage issue, I would take the car to a dealer and have them retune/reflash the ECU.
Try tapping the brake lightly once the car is at speed and after that "last shift". If it feels like a downshift, that's the torque convertor unlocking -- they're designed to do that.
It probably won't affect you in FL, but in cold weather, the auto trans won't shift into 4th until the engine reaches a certain temperature. It is a built-in feature to minimize emissions. My parking spot is too far away to start the car and go inside to let it warm up, so it takes about 1 1/2 miles of driving before it'll upshift to 4th when it's below freezing.
If you can feel it on your car, maybe the torque converter is not working properly. If it is slipping too much while you're not locked up, that would explain your poor fuel economy.
Bottom line- have the dealer do a complete inspection of the tranny including torque converter.
Apparently, different people experience this differently. I have ALWAYS felt the lock-up in automatics I have owned or driven in the last 15 years from sub-compacts to full-size vans, from brand-new to very used.
The sensation feels like another shift, but a bit gentler and usually between 40-50 mph unless under hard acceleration to merge from an off-ramp or up a hill, in which case it could be 60+ mph.
Ditto for downshifts, as in climbing a hill -- as the engine loses power, you'll initially feel what seems to be a downshift, while in reality you're still in top gear but the torque convertor has unlocked to allow slippage and more torque for climbing.
when we drive it the transmission wont go in overdrive until you reach 60-62 mph this only happens until it gets warm has anyone else had this problem? the dealership can't find anything wrong with it.
If the temp is below 35-40° F, my car won't upshift to 4th gear and then overdrive for the first mile or so. At sub-freezing temperatures, it's even longer.
If that is what you're referring to, the transmission is supposed to do this.
Make sure to note all the details when the issue occurs so the dealer can recreate those conditions.
Any advice, and help would be greatly appreciated.
thank you Angie
Grinding vibration noise in Aveo
Mine is a 2004 with A/T and it makes a grinding noise and has vibration from barely rolling up to highway speed. It does this ALL the time, though, not just accelerating. My mechanic checked all the wheel bearings twice and found no problem. It started after rotating my rear tires to the front -- he says that there is excessive runout in the tires, but not the wheels.
I would have an independent mechanic check the entire suspension, axles, CV-joints and wheels to find the problem and then have the dealer fix it if you have any type of warranty with this car. Also, check for a broken motor mount.
i paided $2000 for a clutch at 8800m now 31000m later i'm putting in a new clutch
for $1200 agin chevrolet say's that its my falt for it. now look i know how to drive my boss at my construstion job lats me drive the 7speed bom truck and u have to doulbe clutch it just to go from 1st to 2nd and on top of that i got the warrenty and extended warrenty but nope it my fault so y did i by this car oh ya becus the computer over the weeked say'ed i can have a ues'ed metro for $150a month so they call me in to force me into a new aveo that it will last... not!!! :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
I am very disappointed with the service I have been getting. There is apparently something wrong with my car; yet, I am always treated like I am crazy. My car has become the car that cried check engine. When something seriously wrong actually does happen with the engine; I'm never going to know because the light is always on and the only response I get is to drive it more.
Yeah, thanks for that.
It sounds like the service department/person you're taking it to just doesn't want to bother doing anything with it. If you can't get any joy from them, don't hesitate to call GM.
It sounds like this "may" be an issue with the brake/park interlock. You have to have the brake pedal depressed for the transmission to "unlock" and allow you to shift out of park. It's a safety feature on almost every auto trans made these days.
I don't know about the 04, but I know the new ones have a 5 year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. I wonder if this would be covered?
I doubt that stepping too lightly on the brake is a factor at all. Either the interlock is disengaged or not -- it's not on a gradient scale where pressing harder on the brake pedal will produce a better result.
BTW, while I've had my issues with my 04 A/T, no problems at all with the transmission, either in operation or shifting from Park to Drive. It's Japanese-made, the same brand (Aisin) that Toyota uses on their ECHO/Yaris models and probably others.
warranty. They charged me $100.00 deduction fee. They said they ran a diagnostic on it and number 2 and 4 valves were bad. GM sent someone up to the
dealership to look at the car, he could not find out why the valves went bad. Then got mean and told me it was my fault bad driving. I have had one ticket in my life
when I was 17 teen. I am now 53. He said they would repair it but never again. I thanked him for being such a nice man (ha ha) and that he did not know what he was talking about. The clock keeps loosing time they can't seem to fix that.
The thermostat had to be replaced 3 times which caused the car to overheat. The hatchback handle broke. The heater motor gave out. When I had the valve job done they kept the car for 2 weeks. They called me and said it was ready. It was riding hard as I drove out of their parking lot. I took it for a test drive around the block the car died. They had to tow it back. The guy got testy with me because I asked him if they replaced the plugs. He said if you know so much about cars why
don't you fix it yourself. I said I would if I could but I don't have the tools for a nissan
engine and you should have pick that up if you did a diagnostic on it like you said.
They had the car 29 days plus 18 teen hours just 6 hours to go to lemon law.
When I got the car back all they did was replace the number 2 plug, 2 weeks to do
this. The day light driving lights stay on for a while then go out for a while. The engine light is on a lot. So I had to replace all 4 plugs because the car was misfiring when I left the garage. I only get 27 miles in town, 31 on the highway since day number 1. I have always had a chevy car. I will never buy another one,
I will never go back to this chevy dealer. GM was no help at all. On a 1 to 10 scale, I rate this car a 1. None of the chevy dealers carry the parts you need. One
time I needed a part and it was 6 hours away. I have vibration since day number 1.
But they keep telling me I don't. I hate this little car, they made it with parts that
are hard to find. The heater blower is located inside the car under the glove box I could not believe it. I said I would replace it myself I am sick of them wanting a $100 dollars every time I drive in to a Chevy garage. They said $140.00 out the door. I told them to keep it. I found it on the internet for $37.00 and $15.50 for shipping. I've got to find a different car this one has given me one big headache.
Never again.
I feel (felt) your pain. I had similar issues with a 2005 hatchback...For example, after the moonroof went out the 2nd time, I was told by the dealer that it must be my fault. So, I know where you are in this issue.
I was always treated like the red-headed stepchild on this car, and I can only guess is that the dealers don't make much cash on the Aveo, so they consider it a "necessary problem" they have to deal with. AVeo's are not pushed at any dealership in my area that I know of...
On the bright side, however, I was able to fix my clock from losing time...in my case, it was a poor grounding issue that was resolved when I had the Rostra cruise control installed. It required the removal of the battery and battery box, and after the cruise was installed and the battery reconnected, my clock kept perfect time from that point onward. However, in your case, I think the clock is the least of your problems...
cracked in a v shape so now I have to worry about them freezing.
Thanks for the email
Yupper1
engine light comes on. So I go to Auto Zone. 3 codes. P0300 engine misfire.
Po700 transmission control system (MIL Request).
P0781 1-2 shift. Does anyone understand these codes?
Thank You
Yupper1 :sick:
Make : CHEVROLET Model : AVEO Year : 2004
Manufacturer : GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
Service Bulletin Num : 070730007 Date of Bulletin: APR 01, 2007
NHTSA Item Number: 10022265
Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Summary:
AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE/TRANSMISSION SHIFT LEVER MAY NOT SHIFT OUT OF PARK (REPLACE BRAKE TRANSAXLE SHIFT INTERLOCK (BTSI) SOLENOID). *KB
Take that bulletin number to your dealer and see if they can help with that problem.
You can look up information on any car at:
NHTSA - Safety Problems and Issues
Thank You very much for your input. Will put it to good use.
Yupper1
Thanks for the input. Will put it to good use.
Yupper1
My car, today, would not get out of park and I'm taking it in tomorrow to get it fixed.
Safety Problems and Issues. This help me with the code P0781 1-2 shift. Serivice Bulletin Num: 070730007. NHTSA Item Num: 10022265. Component: Power Train:Automatic Transmission: Summary: Automatic Transaxle/Transmission shift lever may not shift out of park (Replace Brake Transzaxle shift interlock (BTSI) Solenoid). *KB. I have a 2004 Chevy Aveo Hatchback. My day light running lights go on and off. It is using gas as if it was water. It is riding very rough. It is misfiring. I also found another site: www.diyautotech.com/technical service buklletins/Chevrolet/2004/Aveo. My heater is also acting up. I found : Component Name: 060000 Engine and Engine Cooling
NHTSA# 01744 Summary: Poor Heating performance/insufficient heat during Low
ambient temperatures. Component Name: 061000 Engine and Engine coooling engine NHTSA# 050601030 Summary: intermittent misfire cold during deceleration or steady state highway driving with diagnostic trouble codes (DTCS)
P0300. Component Name: 0610000 Engine and engine cooling: Engine NHTSA# 3064 Summary: Service engine soon light and rough running with diagnostic trouble codes P0700, P1781 and possibly a po300. *TT. Component Name: 061000 Engine and engine cooling Engine NHTSA# 01653 Summary: Diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P1781 diagnostix is not in Si Yet. Poor Fuel Economy and/or harsh transmission shifts. Sit Bulletin 1413084. *MN. I can't wait Friday I am going to Lakeshore Transmission and getting a diagnostic done, then taking that and all the recalls (the only recall I ever received was the one about the back seat belts) to the Chevey Dealer. I am going to demand that every recall be
checked. If I here it is my fault again, I think I will loose it. Then I will have to contact GM which I have done in the past and they were not to helpful. I will get a
attorney. I hope this was helpful to some of you. Will keep you posted.
One point to note, for those who don't know, TSBs are not the same as recalls. They are basically guides for the dealership for certain trouble-spots on the car. I've had cars with lots of TSBs and never had a problem with any of the issues listed. They don't have to fix them and you might have to pay for any repairs that aren't under warranty.
Stem Seals). The reason I went to a transmission shop was that when my Aveo died in July 2007 I had it towed to the nearest Chevy dealer. 2 and 4 valves were
bad. GM was called in. When he showed up he said it was reckless driving. He was very rude. I had the timing chain change 10,000 miles early to avoid this problem. Have not had a ticket in many years. Boy did he make me mad. He said they would replace them this time but never again. I have an extended warranty. I said you can see the timing chain is good you just can't find the problem. I asked him if he got out of bed on the wrong side. They kept my car for 2 weeks, they did not have a loaner car so I had to rent one. I pick up the car road it around the block and was back at the chevy dealer. This time they gave me
a loaner. They kept the car 13 days and 18 hours, 6 hours short of being a lemon.
I asked what was wrong. Fuel injecter was plugged and put a plug on the number
2 valve. They charged me $6.15 for the plug. The towing, car rental and plug came
out of my pocket when it was under warrenty. I said when you ran the diagnostics
you could not tell that the plug was bad? He said if you know so much about cars
why don't you fix it? I said because I don't have the tools for a Nissen engine. I work 1 hour away from my house so I stop in at the Chevy dealer there. I showed
him the diagnostics papers and he said he would love to do the job but I had to call
the warrenty people and they said I had to go to the other dealer because they have
been paid once already for this and there is a 12 month warrenty on the job. The
Chevy dealer were I work said when I brought the car back the 2nd time they should have checked the technical service bulletin there is no excuse for not doing
this. So I called the other dealer told him I had a diagnostic run on my car and the
number is---I don't need the number. So I have to wait another week until they can
look at it. Then they will probably have to order the parts. He was very rude. This is a 5 star garage and they did not do it right in the first place and I have to go back
there. Well I quess I will wait and see what they do. I drive 45 minutes to work, so 90 miles a day and it is using 8 galllons of gas. When it is all said and done I will
be calling Chevy to register a complaint and if they won't do anything about it, I am
telling them I drive a yellow aveo and I am going to get some black tape and all around my car it is going to say my chevy aveo is a lemon and chevy refuses to do
anything about it and then contact the news and a attorney. Amen. Hope most of you don't have the same problem I have. :sick:
first. Then they told me I could go to the small transmission place. They don't have loaners, so I had to call them back again. Since I was getting so many different answers I ask them if there was any one there that was a mechanic and had been with the company for a long period of time. So low and behold I get this mechanic that use to work for GM his job was to create TSB. I told him I was getting all these different answers and he laughed and said, we are training many new people and they are suppose to check with there team leaders first. He said
I am so sorry, how can I help you? I thought warranty companies were suppose to
please the customer. That is correct. So I told him I did not want to go back to
the Chevy Dealer that did the valve job. So he pulled up the work order. The car was in the shop for 2 weeks then they called me and said it was ready. I had to rent a car because they did not have a loaner. I drove the call around the block and
brought it right back to the dealer. I told them the call is still driving real rough.
They kept the car for 13 more days to change the number 2 plug and to clean the
fuel injection. So the car at the warranty company says I don't blame you for being
upset. First off they should of called us to see if we would pay for a rental, they should of told you this. Also they charge you for a plug that was under warranty.
They did not check to see if there were any TSB out on this, so they broke GM
standard of work. So they only did half of the job. He then told me to take it to a
different Chevy Dealer and he would waive the deductible. Everything is covered under the warranty. They still have to send a inspector out just for the simple fact that anything over a $1000 this is required. So I go to the dealer and the service advisor says are you sure the warranty company said you could come here? I said yes they want you to give them a call anyway and they will fax you the first work order from the other dealer so you have a starting point. He wants you to write up
this work order as a dispute, so GM can get this company honest again. The service advisor says I have been working here for 25 years and never heard of this
happening. How can I dispute when it is not GM car anymore. I said call the warranty company. She calls me back 1 hour later and says wow you were right.
The warranty company says I have the right to sue this dealership. For fraud, for misinformation and not doing the job right. If she disputes it, it will give the warranty permission and they will contact GM so GM can straighten them out. I don't think they will be a 5 star dealer anymore. I want to thank this forum it sure
help me out.
I don't know what state you are in, but I know in California, they have some kind of law that says that you have a right to take the car back if the repair isn't done right the first time. And, I think if they don't fix it after a certain number of times, you can either get a refund on the car (of course, you have to turn the car in), or you get the problem fixed for free for the life of the car. :lemon:
Someone else might be able to clarify that.
Yes the check engine light comes and goes. Riding real rough, eating gas like it was water. Misfires. The first two times I had transmission problems this is what they did: Change valve 2 and 4. Still had problems they said it was the number 2 plug and fuel injector was plugged. I had a diagnostic run on it. They came up
TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) 1.6L L91 Intermittent Misfire During Deceleration or Steady State Highway Driving After Cold Start with DTCs P0300, P0700, P1781
Replace Valves and Valve Stem Seals) Cause: the engine misfire may be experienced due to a valve sealing concern. You can go to www. NHTSA.gov.
this site will give you all the recalls and all of the TSB. Reference Number:
05-06-01-030c. This is covered under my warranty. It is $1000 to $1200 the job will
take about 8 hrs. If you are still under warranty I would call them and check it out.
Good Luck, drop us a note when you get it checked out.
Was the engine replaced by the dealer or a 3rd party shop? If the dealer did the work, was it his suggestion or your desire to have the work done?
I ask these questions because the average trade-in price on a 2004 Aveo is around 4200-4500 with regular mileage (not like the high mileage you reported), maybe less depending on the model traded for. $2500 is a lot to put into a car that doesn't have much value to begin with, and no warranty to speak of after engine repair, other than maybe on the engine itself. So, if it was your suggestion, then you felt it was worth it, but if you were led by the dealer to invest that kind of cash on the car, I would think he has an obligation to make it right.
If it was dealer replaced, it should have come with some type of warranty, which the dealer is obligated to honor.
So, if it were me under these circumstances, I would lean on the dealer to send the car to another GM shop for advanced diagnosis...after all, its their obligation to you for your $2500 "contribution".
However, if it was a non-dealer install, you could be in for an expensive time in search of the eroneous code explanation.