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Which dealers were you working with in SoCal and which one did you go with? It appears you were able to bring the MSRP price down by +/- 15%. Nice work. I'm not too familiar with the one pay lease option and was planning on purchasing the vehicle. Thanks for posting your details.
Do members of this forum believe 10%-15% off MSRP is reasonable for the E250 as well?? At this point with the imminent release of the E250 and increased demand, I don't believe that kind of reduction is out there but perhaps by winter when inventory builds it might seem like a reasonable price point. Thoughts?
Many thanks.
What are the discounts being offered on a 2013? Thanks again for all the input!
also did you work with their internet dept?
if lease, 2014 would be the way to go usually
I just returned a 2011 E350 Bluetec this past Sunday to MB of Long Beach and leased a 2014 E350. The Bluetec is white with tan MB-tex, sport, P1, parktronic, split folding seats, etc. And it has <20K miles on it.
I recommend you call or email my salesperson with initials DD.
Cheers!
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee9c851/44139#MSG44139
regards,
kyfdx
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Thanks for posting this information. Can you tell me what dealer in SD? Have you purchased in OC or LA before? I'm surprised they are deducting > 10k off sticker for purchase on the E250's in the SD area. I live close to Hoehn and I doubt they would do this. I think FJ, Keyes, Ontario, Silver Star, etc. have a better chance at discounting new purchases at that price point from their inventory given their larger volumes but I may be wrong?? Personally, I was considering waiting until the winter sales event however 10k off MSRP at this point sounds great!
I also called Mercedes of Long Beach, CA.. I spoke to a salesman with the initials DD, Desmond?? He gave me complete information, exact discounted pricing, (which was in the discount range stated in my last email) lease payments. He told me that he would email me the info today. There are more incentives for purchasing than leasing, however the payments with just up fronts on a 36 month lease, 12k were in the mid 600's plus tax.
As you probably know, what a salesman says on the phone and reality can be night and day. This salesman sounded very knowledgeable, quoted me purchase and lease pricing without having to go to a supervisor, and seemed forthright. These new vehicles are out of my price point, however I hope this information helps you.
I'm in San Diego as well, and I've interacted with all three local dealerships with their sales directors (decision makers) on multiple occasions over the past 7 years. Based on my experience, I would be hard pressed to see any of them, particularly, MB of SD and Hoehn, offering $10k discount on an E250. Neither could even come close to the lease deal I got from Dez at MB of Long Beach on a 2014 E350 (see my posts in leasing). Frankly, both those dealers were rude and condescending and seemed aghast that I could actually do high school math.
MB of Escondido, particularly RR and MS, were quite nice. They ordered an E250 for me (P1, sport, Keyless go pkg, park assist, etc.), but the best that they could offer was $3K off list ($58+K list). Dez had ordered one for me as well ($59+K list) and offered a good discount and included MSDs, but it simply made more financial sense to go with the E350.
My two rupees.
Cheers!
BTW. I am a Dewars guy, but on the rocks. Enjoy your new car.
Appreciate your feedback on these boards.
Dewarsandsoda,
Did you work with any other dealerships in LA/OC? Is there anyone else you recommend locally? I am also reluctant to deal with any of the SD dealerships. Seems like DD in LB is an excellent option. Is your E250 from their inventory or a factory build?
Pingpong30,
You scored a great deal. That over 10k off MSRP! Is this through DD at LB with a car in their inventory? What kind of packages/options did you end up getting?
Thanks guys.
Sir
Sorry about the typo in your name. hopefully I have it right now. I did get in touch with my used car manager. We did not purchase the 2011 E350 bluetec. It was sent back to Mercedes Benz Fiancial. Apparently their asking price was more than the cars actual market value. With regards to the 2014 E-Class we talked about, here is an accurate quote valid until the end of September:
2014 E250 bleutec polar white ext, silk beige int, premium package p1, lane tracking package, lane tracking package, comfort box, rear spoiler
MSRP 59090
Invoice 55716
Price 48716 plus tax and license
2014 E350 sedan (gas engine) polar white ext, black int, premium package p1, sports package, split folding rear seats, elec trunk closer, keyless go, chrome door handle inserts, accessory styling package, comfort box
MSRP 59375
Invoice 55981
Price 48681
Please consider this sample pricing as I have many too chose from. I can pass on the same discount for any E350 or E250 in stock.
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Not just money factors - they also can mark up buy rate interest on auto financing. If the interest rate on financing through MBFS is 3.9%, there is a 1% mark up included in that rate which means the dealerships buy rate for that loan would be 2.9%.
Additionally on loans from MBFS, if you use direct withdrawals on your loan from your bank, you can save an additional 1/2 %.
2021 Genesis G90
I like your strategy of getting the lowest documented discount from the internet staff at LB and then basically letting the dealers fight over the giving you the best deal. I try to do the same myself and like you said it keeps the consumer from getting screwed.
Can you let us know who ended up beating you quote (dealership and initials of salesman)? Many thanks. I hope to use the same strategy and will share my findings with the forum as well. Thanks again!
MSRP: $59,200.00
Cash Price: $47,370.00
My email to the salesman below. And he answered "Looks Correct" "Yes"
So on a 2014 E 350 with a MSRP of $59,200.00, you will sell me the car for $47,370.00? If purchased out of your stock? Please confirm
MB of Encino - Internet manager- Pat I would not make a trip into the dealership without something in writing signed by the general manager, or emailed paper work, ready to sign, with all of the numbers and disclosures right in front of you. I just don't trust anyone in auto sales, especially this Pat. Otherwise, House of Imports was $750 more and MB of Long Beach a bit higher.
2012 E350 Luxury with 25k miles for sale by a non-MB dealer is asking $35,989. - AutoCheck shows the following:
1. Titled or Registered as a Rental Vehicle, or Part of A Rental Fleet.
2. Left Front Impact Collision Accident Reported - Police Report. 02/2013 (no other information is provided regarding this accident report)
No title issues. Title shows as clean.
I test drove the vehicle, on highway and residential area, and the ride was smooth. The inside of the vehicle looks pristine. I observed the left front and no sign of damage to vehicle. Dealer did not have additional information regarding the accident but the "manager" informed me that it was at least 1k of damage.
I'm uncertain if he knew that b/c that is the minimum amount needed to be reported on Autocheck, or something else. I did not push the issue since my intent, for the day, was to test drive only. I plotted to hammer the accident report at the time of negotiation so I did not push the issue.
The vehicle has been on their lot for over three months. I've seen the price drop from $40,000 down to $35,998. I was going to offer them $34,000 including all "doc fees" etc., but not including tax.
Side note: Carfax does NOT show the accident that Autocheck shows.
Thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
from what i gather, most dealer would do this kind of deal if you purchase/finance, NOT lease
wait, NVM, just saw it is a 2013 model
Here are the prices I have received from dealers so far:
E350
Diamond White/Chestnut brown
Sport package
Lighting
Sport wood leather steering wheel
Premium 1
Trunk close
keyless go
split folding
Heated and Active ventilated
Active multicontour driver seat
panorama roof
115v outlet
4matic
driver assistance
parking assist
E550 (same as 350) only option I did not add was airmatic. How much difference does it really make?
Lease Prices
E350 24m 7500mi 71050msrp 63500 selling price 722/m 3300down
E350 36m 7500mi 71050msrp 63500sp 721/m 4039down
E550 24m 7500mi 77060msrp 70038sp 890.24/m 5982down
E550 36m 7500mi 77060msrp 70038sp 783.36/m 6462down
Thanks.
The automobile diminished value report you receive from St. Lucie Appraisal is based entirely on the opinions of used car managers at automobile dealerships. Was your Honda wrecked and repaired? Our report provides six quotes from Honda dealerships that specifically address your actual vehicle and the exact amount and severity of damage that was repaired. When people trade their cars in, those are the guys who buy them so their opinions are valid. Other appraisal companies providing diminished value reports may use formulas such as the inappropriate (as ruled by The Georgia Supreme Court) Rule 17-C or collect data from auto auctions to formulate their figures. I'm not guaranteeing success if you march into court with this type of appraisal. Insurers can successfully argue that they do not address your specific car or the damages it incurred.
The Georgia Supreme Court's ruling on the inequity of Rule 17-C laid the foundation for fair automobile diminished value settlements in all 50 states. Formulas such as State Farm's Rule 17-C severely shortchanged vehicle owners and, in doing so, provided themselves and other insurers using formulas to determine diminished value with unjust enrichment.
Subsequent to your accident, the adjuster from the responsible driver's insurance company will offer you a settlement for diminished value. If you ask them how they came up with the figure they will either point to a formula, a "certified" appraiser's report or simply refuse to explain their process altogether. I have seen the diminished value reports prepared by independent appraisers hired by insurers and they are a joke. They contain no reasonable facts to back up their assumptions. Most of them are not licensed in any state. Note that "certified" appraisers belong to pay-to-be-certified organizations, not unlike the Better Business Bureau and should not be confused with "licensed" appraisers. A number of insurance company attorneys have contacted St. Lucie Appraisal in the past to inquire about hiring us. Once they learned about our process of using dealer quotes, however, their interest faded quickly as they realized that our reports would result in higher (translation: fair) diminished value settlements. In front of a magistrate or mediator, these types of reports provide actual evidence of how much less your car is worth in the real world. Appraisals based on formulas or auction results can not compare. And insurance company diminished value estimates made up out of thin air (yes, they do exist) will certainly be looked upon as unfair at best and possibly fraudulent in the eyes of a judge.
Face it, even your own insurance agent or broker hasn't informed you of your right to collect diminished value from the insurer of the responsible driver. Regardless of the fact that the settlement isn't even costing your own insurer a dime, agents are mum on the subject altogether. Automobile diminished value is the newest thorn in the insurance companies' side. Their mission is to keep it a secret and their hope is that it will go away.
How much, at least discounts should I get ? percentage wise.
Thank you all.
E 350. Incentives from MB change today so I am not sure if that same pricing is available. Up to Sept 30 Mercedes was giving a total of $11K in incentives to the dealer.
My suggestion is to build your exact car here on Edmunds. Add the options and packages you want. Edmunds will show you the MSRP, the invoice and what a decent deal would be for that car.
Take the invoice and a copy of the report Edmunds created for you to your preferred dealership. Offer them invoice for the car. They have incentives from MBUSA and if you are steadfast in hour approach, buying the car for invoice should be very realistic.
The average invoice is 7% below MSRP.
USAA has special pricing as well. If you are a veteran, you can join USAA. Once you have a membership card, you can go into the dealership and get up to $2500 off invoice.
But without fleet discounts like USAA, you should be able to get one at invoice.
2021 Genesis G90
Are you serious? I would fly there if you are seriously getting that price...lol.
Thanks.
I don't know if you are serious but here is the info
MB of Encino - Pat - internet manager
Fletcher Jones Mercedes
MB of Long Beach - Dez - internet
Keyes European -
All but Keyes - discounting over $10K
I plan on purchasing an E250 between now and the end of the year and have heard that the winter sales event offers the best incentives historically, however I'm not sure if its going to get any lower than 20% off MSRP as it was in SoCal last month.
Thanks in advance
From there, get a quote in writing by email. With that information in writing, you can use it to email to other managers in the fleet or internet departments to beat the price. You may have to call the dealership to get them to send you an email with the price. The salesman will try to get you to come into the dealership before giving you the best price, and if that happens just say that you are not going to waste your time coming in unless you have something in writing. That usually gets them to send an email. I was just called by the Mercedes dealer in Long Beach that the Mercedes retail and lease incentives are the same for Oct 2013, so pricing should be the same as last month. Use my info to negotiate a deal in your area. Incentives may be different in your region, so pricing may be a bit different, so do the best that you can.
Do those prices include a USAA discount or something similar or could I use USAA on top of those prices?
Thank you again in advance.