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2013 and earlier-Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid



  • Getting a 2010 E350 CPO with 21K miles for $38K before tax and title, is this a good deal? Car has P2 with panaromic roof...

    Also, how do you structure a CPO deal? i.e. how do you estimate the cars true value...Any buying experiences will be appreciated...
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    First of all, you can look up the "book value" of your car at,, or any of the services that provide estimated book values such as

    The prices you get should be averaged from all the sources. Additionally, I am going to assume you are getting a "certified" Mercedes Benz, which would include a 5 or 6 year extended warranty.

    I checked Kelly Blue Book and they priced the "trade-in" value of the car at 39,532, assuming good condition. Thus, the price you have from the dealer is excellent according to them.

    Personally, I would give them a counter-offer of $36,000 and see what they do. Again, if the car is not a certified car with the extended warranty, you might want to offer them the $38K and have them certify the car.

    I hope I have been helpful to you.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • Any suggestions on what I should pay for a 2012 E350 with P1 package and split folding rear seat? MSRP is 55,805 and invoice according to edmunds is 51,960. I am interested in the 1.9% financing so I am not sure how that effects incentives. Also, I am having a hard time finding an E350 with these options (P1 and split rear seats). My local dealer seems to have more "stuff" on E350s in their inventory than I want. Appreciate any advice.
  • Yes, your post was very helpful...thank you!
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    edited November 2011
    First of all, we need to determine whether or not you can qualify for any additional incentives. The 1.9% financing rate is available to everyone who qualifies based upon your BEACON score, which is your credit score. So long as you are 720 or higher, you should qualify.

    Are you a veteran? If you are, you can qualify for the USAA pricing which is invoice + 500 less 2000, or a net price of 1500 under invoice. Even if your father, mother, brother or sister were or are veterans, you can use their social security number and serial number to register with USAA. USAA will explain the details to you as I do not want to go into this lengthy process if you don't qualify.

    Are you currently in a Mercedes Benz Lease or loan with MB financial? If you are, you can qualify for the $2000 incentive they have available for this month, and probably next month. You can "BUNDLE" the MB financial incentive (2000) with the USAA discount, if you qualify. There is also a conquest incentive available which can be bundled with the interest rate and MB Financial incentive.

    You cannot get a conquest with a USAA; you cannot get a loyalty incentive (I think they have 1500 for November and is different from the MB financial incentive, and will probably extend it to December) with the USAA discount.

    Enough about available incentives.

    You should be able to get this car for a discount off MSRP of about $2000, without any incentives. I don't know of any other dealers going lower than that right now as there is a limited number of sedans available in the country right now. My dealer is one of the largest in south florida, and he has 8 of them available. They tell me they do not expect any increases in inventory levels until late January or early February. They do not know why there is a shortage, just that there is one throughout the country.

    One thing that is nice about USAA is that USAA sets the pricing of the car for you and the dealer, which is invoice + $500.00. The USAA discount forces the dealer to sell the vehicle at that set price. And remember, you can get additional incenitves. I paid 55,300 for a 62325 MSRP vehicle since I was able to use the USAA pricing less 1500. And an additional 1500 for MB Financial Loyalty incentive. This month, the MB Financial incentive is 2000.00. So I paid 500 more last month than I would have paid this month. The vehicle I purchase was ordered for me, so I really had to take delivery before Nov.1st. I also got the 1.9% financing rate for 66 months negotiated down to 1.65% since they have a 1% mark-up on the rate. They also threw in maintenance for 3 years, which is worth about $800.00.

    I hope this has been helpful to you. I would be interested in what you qualify for and what you end up paying.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • Thanks for your detailed reply. Unfortunately I am not a veteran but I would qualify for the 1.9% financing. I have not really started negotiating but the dealer mentioned that I can get $2000 discount off MSRP because I currently drive a competitor luxury vehicle. Do you think this would be in addition to the $2000 off MSRP you mentioned for a total of $4000 off MSRP? If that's the case, it would get me to invoice price according to Edmunds and seems like a good deal. If not, perhaps I should wait a month or two for more inventory(?)
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    What additional $2000 are you referring to? I understand the "conquest" discount of $2000. The only other incentives and/or discounts I am aware of that you could qualify for in conjuntion with the conquest discount would be a Mercedes Benz Financial "customer loyalty" discount. I am guessing that you would not qualify for that since you do not have an existing MB lease or MB financial loan. You cannot "bundle" conquest with anything other incentives. Same is true for USAA (except for the MB financial loyalty incentive).

    If all he is giving you is $2000 off because of the conquest discount, then you are dealing with the wrong dealer. What he is offering you is MSRP, or list price since the dealer receives the loyalty money back from Mercedes Benz. You should be able to get the conquest money (2000) plus an additional 2000. That would bring the price to 4000 below MSRP, or almost his invoice. That would be an excellent price for this time of the eyar.

    As for waiting, that will not get you a better price unless you are plannign on waiting until May or June or eve July.

    If you want to get the car for close to dealer invoice which would include the 2000 from the conquest money + another 2000 in dealer discount (dealer would make a profit of 2500 plus his hold back of 2%) and the 1.9% financing (remember, that too can be negotiated down a little since they have 1% mark-up on that 1.9 % loan), you can do that "right now" and without having to wait.

    I would suggest that you go into that dealer with your check-book and/or trade ready to buy a car that same day (and tell him you are ready to drive home in a new Mercedes Benz if the price is right) and offer him a total of $4000 below MSRP (which would include 2000 conquest and a 2000 discount). If he says "no way, no how", just tell him you are off to see the other Mercedes Benz dealer in town or your city, and offer him the same deal. Believe me, even with limited inventories, you should be able to get the car you want for that price along with the 1.9 % financing (I always carry a small loan on my car from MB Financial because they usually offer a MB Financial loyalty cash back deal of 1500 to 2000 every time I buy a car from my dealer).

    In other words, if you want that car, get aggressive and make them an offer. IF they refuse the offer, tell them you will go to another dealer and make them the same offer. I live in South east Florida, and there are 10 MErcedes Benz Dealers located within 30 miles of where I live.

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • I was not familiar with term conquest discount so you are correct that there is no other discount. What you explained makes a lot of sense. I will let you know what I decide to do. Thanks again for all the advice.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    edited November 2011
    No problem. I was a general manager in a luxury car dealership for 5 years after I retired from being a school principal. All I want to do is pass on ideas, advice, suggestions and strategies to new car buyers so they are not bullied or overwhelmed when they go into a dealership. The more info and data you have at your fingertips prior to going in to the dealership to do "battle", the better deal you will ultimately get.

    Good luck!

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • I'm interested in purchasing a 2012 ML350 BlueTEC. The vehicle I want needs to be built due to the options I want (pretty much fully loaded with the exception of a rear seat entertainment system). I've been in touch with 3 dealers and would like to determine what pricing should apply. The dealerships have all told me that the promotions and incentives that apply would be the ones in place at the time of vehicle delivery, not those in effect when I place the order, so agreeing on a price beforehand presents an issue.

    My father was a Veteran, but USAA informed me that I am unfortunately ineligible for membership. That would have made this pricing exercise much easier because the USAA program would have enabled me to agree on a price beforehand.

    Should I place the order and hope that the Conquest, finance and other incentives are in place when I take delivery in February or March?

    I've also been looking at the actual prices paid locally and regionally within the last 90 days as reported on I'm not sure if the prices I'm seeing there are for the exact same vehicle or not.

    Thanks. I'd appreciate any feedback that you could provide.
  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 970
    The dealer is telling you the truth...there is no way to assure that any of the current programs will still be in place...or if there will be new ones when the car arrives.

    Your best, and only, bet is to get the dealer to agree that you can cancel the order at any time prior to when you pick up the car. Otherwise, you will either forfeit your deposit or you will have to acquire the car based on whatever programs are available at the time it gets to your dealer.
  • Ghstudio,

    That's what I figured, but I just wanted to make sure that I'm approaching the pricing process correctly.

  • Hi all - very helpful info on this forum! I have just promoted with my company to the level at which they give us a Mercedes cash allowance for a white Mercedes, any model. I have chosen the E-350, and am just starting to negotiate...could use insights on the following:

    What is the difference between the Luxury 4Matic Sedan and the Sport 4Matic Sedan as listed on this site for price calculating? I don't see any differences listed.

    I know I want the 4Matic with nav, rear airbags and natural beige leather...

    1. Is the leather that much better than the leatherette standard? This is my first luxury car and my existing vehicles are all leather-like interiors

    2. Should I go in with the maintenance package included in my negotiating price or add that on top of where we end up?

    3. I see on here many comments about a shortage of 2012 the 2012 so much different than 2011? I'd be happy w/a 2011 unless there's some can't-live-without improvements on the 2012.

    4. Any idea of the price of the nav system outside of the P1 package?

    5. Any "must have" options that I'm missing?

    6. It appears the base invoice is $49,281 and Mercedes will give me $2000 through the Employee Allowance Bonus Program, taking the price to $47,281. I've also been advised by a number of friends who've negotiated w/MB that I should include MB's employee 8-12% discount to get to my bottom line. So I am thinking of starting at 12%, taking the price to $41,607 (without the options I outlined above). Does this sound feasible?

    7. We will qualify for the 1.9%, which I see in many threads can be negotiated down, so where should I start with that - offer 1%?

    8. I can put 10% down but would rather not...can that be done?

    Thanks for your insights!!

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    edited December 2011
    The sport model has a special sport suspension, different grille work, different body-side panels, and a sport instrument panel. The luxury has a softer suspension. Also, the tires are larger on the sport than the luxury (17" vs. 18")

    Yes, inventory is much lower at dealers this year than last. I don't know why and my dealer tells me that production is reduced over last year.

    The 2012 has a new engine (268 hp on 2011, 302 on 2012) with better fuel economy (20 city, 30 hway - and I am getting 33 mpg on the highway on trips over 40 miles). Since you are getting a 4-matic, fuel economy will be a little less for obvious reasons. There is also a newer and more efficient transmission.

    You can only get the NAV with premium package 1 or 2. But remember, you also get rear sunshade, Harman Kardin 610 sterro with 14 speakers (12 speakers on the 2011). You also get heated seats and several other options.

    You do not have to put anything down, so long as your credit is excellent.

    As for leather vs. MBtex, I've had both and I prefer MBtex because is cleans up better than leather.

    I currently have leather because I wanted the ventilated seats (heated as well as aircooled in summer, as I live in Florida). I also have the dynamic driver's seat, but I do not think I would get that again.

    I got the premium 2 because I wanted the Xenon lights, cornering lamps, curve illumination and adaptive high beam system. I also like the Keyless Go, automatic trunk closer and others.

    It's all a matter of choice.

    As for negotiations, dealers are tied to a preset arrangement with Mercedes Corporate - in other words, there is a set price for which they will sell the vehicle, no more, no less. You can't bundle existing incentives with such offers, usually.

    What I would do is go to three dealers. Get their best prices, which should be almost identical.

    Your 1.9% finance rate can be negotiated down to .9%, if the dealer is willing to give up all profit on the deal, which most are not. But I was able to get 1.65 since I buy alot of vehicles from the same dealer.

    For a more detailed explanation of packages and options, go to and go through the info on the E350 4-matic.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 970
    1. Is the leather that much better than the leatherette standard? This is my first luxury car and my existing vehicles are all leather-like interiors. THE REALITY IS THAT THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, BUT SINCE THIS IS YOUR FIRST LUXURY CAR, GO FOR LEATHER, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER.

    2. Should I go in with the maintenance package included in my negotiating price or add that on top of where we end up? IF YOU LEASE, THEN YES, OTHERWISE, NO

    3. I see on here many comments about a shortage of 2012 the 2012 so much different than 2011? I'd be happy w/a 2011 unless there's some can't-live-without improvements on the 2012. YES, THE ENGINE IN THE 2012'S IS SIGNFICANTLY STRONGER

    4. Any idea of the price of the nav system outside of the P1 package? CAN'T GET IT...ONLY WITH p1 OR P2

    5. Any "must have" options that I'm missing? PREMIUM 2 PACKAGE

    6. It appears the base invoice is $49,281 and Mercedes will give me $2000 through the Employee Allowance Bonus Program, taking the price to $47,281. I've also been advised by a number of friends who've negotiated w/MB that I should include MB's employee 8-12% discount to get to my bottom line. So I am thinking of starting at 12%, taking the price to $41,607 (without the options I outlined above). Does this sound feasible?NO IDEA...

    7. We will qualify for the 1.9%, which I see in many threads can be negotiated down, so where should I start with that - offer 1%? ANSWERED BEFORE

    8. I can put 10% down but would rather not...can that be done? NO IDEA ON PURCHASE. NO MONEY DOWN ON LEASES.
  • bzjambzjam Posts: 12
    I've been researching this car for a few months and talking to a couple dealers. I went in earlier this week to one dealer because they told me they would give me $6k off a 2012 e350 with p1. Everything was great until we got to financing. My credit is ok but not great. They offered 9.5%. I laughed and left. I called the dealership closer to me and spoke with the general sales manager. He said to fax my app to him and he'd get the deal done. An hour later his sales person calls and has the deal done for $7.3k off and 1.9%. I had to wait 2 days for the car to come. Went in signed papers no problems no fuss.
  • bzjam,


    Can you post more details (price paid on the car) on your deal? I am in the market too, also can you include dealership name?
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    If you don't mine, where are you and who was the dealer? Sounds like a stand-up guy and I'm sure he'd appreciate a plug. Thanks.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    Would be interested in knowing what incentives were included in deal. I am going to assume you had incentives because you purchased the car for well under what the dealer paid for the car.

    *Currently there is a 2000.00 conquest incentive on the 2012
    *Currently, there is a 2000.00 MB Financial incentive to those who currently have a MB lease or an MB loan - which could not be bundled with the conquest incentive since it is a "conquest", or taking a customer who owns a luxury car, but not a Mercedes, and bringing them into the fray, so to speak

    There is also a special incentive available to dealers for loyalty. The amount I believe is 2000.00. This incentive may be able to be bundled with the MB financial incentive.

    USAA provides a pricing level for members of 500.00 over invoice LESS 2000.00. That cannot be combined with most other incentives - but the MB financial incentive CAN be combined with it.

    You got a great deal, even assuming incentives.

    As an example, in October, my 62,325 E350 sport was sold to me for $55,300, and included MB maintenance for 3 years, a 1000.00 or so value.

    But that included USAA incentive and MB Financial Incentive of 1500 (which is what the incentive was in October). Invoice on the car was $58275.00, so I bought the car for about 3000 under invoice.

    Enjoy your car - I've never had an E class sedan that handled, acceleratred and provided fuel economy like this new 2012.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • bzjambzjam Posts: 12
    I didn't qualify for any incentives. When they were offering the $4000 conquest I had considered buying an old Cadillac for $1000 just to qualify but I didn't. I was told the special pricing was part of the "Winter Sales Event" they are having. I think it also has something to do with me being in constant contact with them over the past few months waiting for the right deal. I rented the 2011 e350 last week in Miami and thought it was great. When I got my 2012 e350 I thought wow they fixed all of the little things I didn't like about the 2011 such as the location of the iPhone connector, the extra hp and gas mileage, the improved graphics on the instrument panel, and the sd card slot instead of the PCMCIA slot. I think the reverse camera is slightly better too although I have to say the one on my Ford Expedition was much better then both.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    Personally, after speaking with my best friend, who interestingly enough is the general sales manager of the dealership where I buy all my Mercedes Benz vehicles, he cannot understand how you could buy a new E350 sedan with P1 for 7,000 dollars + under MSRP without incentives. If what you state is correct, and you did not qualify for any incentives, the dealer sold you the car at a loss to him of over $3000.00.

    Let's assume the car MSRP'd at 57125. Subtract 875 shipping and then multiply by .93 (his invoice factor), then add back the shipping cost of 875.00. Thus, his invoice is 53187.50. In addition to this, there is about 2% holdback or $1000, give or take a few bucks. Thus, his actual, dead cost for the vehicle is about 52,000.00. But you paid over 7,000 below MSRP. My best friend told me that he has never, ever heard of anyone getting that much off MSRP, with no incentives from USAA or Mercedes Benz, or Mercedes Benz Financial. He also added that not even he could purchase a vehicle for that price, and he is the GM.

    His guess is that you qualified for at least $3500 in incentives in order to buy the car for what your purchased it for.

    I sure would like to know how you were able to get a car for what you paid for it with no incentives. He also would like to know that. He said he would love to purchase cars for his inventory from your dealer, if you could let us know who the dealer was. He said he would call him up and buy as many as he would let him have.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • bzjambzjam Posts: 12
    Maybe it has something to do with the end of the year and taxes, maybe its the holiday season and he was in the giving mood, but I don't think it would be a $3000 loss especially when other dealerships are willing to do $6000 off with no incentives also. Merry Christmas to all (me especially I guess!) and good luck with your deals.
  • hhoythhoyt Posts: 2
    I ordered my E350 in November for January 2012 delivery. There has been confusion from day one about the Purchase Order vs. the Confirmation of Order from MB.

    I ordered thru the dealer option 401 Heated and Ventilated Seats. That required my upgrade to leather so I chose to do so. When I got the Confirmation a few days later it did not show option 401 for $450 but rather option 432 Active Multicontour Drivers Seat with massage. I didn't raise an objection because the $660 option was more then I ordered and I presumed, incorrectly, that the option included ventilated seats, the option I really wanted.

    Skip forward a month and when I went into the dealership to pay for the vehicle the saleslady noted the difference and told me I was not getting ventilated seats. We have no clue as to why MB European Delivery did not follow the salespersons purchase order. I already have my reservations in January to pick up the vehicle.

    The only solution from MB was to get a loaner during my trip and have a new configured vehicle made which probably would delay delivery another month or two. I opted not to delay.

    Further confusion is directly from their web site. It says P2 includes multi contour seats. Is the vibrator truly a $600 option above that or am I being charged twice, one in P2 and again as separate option?

    Any suggestions? Can't they just simply make the adjustment to my car since they have one month's notice to correct their mistake?
  • Would $2,000 below dealer invoice (Conquest incentive included) be a good deal on 2012 E 350 Luxury, with P 1 package? Can I do better? Also, can/should I get 3 year prepaid Maintenance package thrown in? Finally, I would like to get the 5 spoke wheels on the 17" Luxury package, but the brochre doesn't say they're available. Can the dealer switch them out? Thanks for any assistance.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    Multi-contour seats is a separate option on the E350, but on the E550, it is a standard feature. Their website is incorrect, and I have checked this out because I too ordered multi-contour seats and heated/ventilated seats with leather with my P2 package. I was told, and my dealer verified, that the multi-contour seats come standard on the E550, but are a separate option on the E350. That should answer your question on that subject.

    I feel that the multi-contour seats are not worth the extra $600. The massage function is uncomfortable and distracting when driving the vehicle. The "wrap-around" feature is the best feature of all, snuggly holding you into your seat, especially on turns.

    As for the confusion on the order, unfortunately you read the confirmation and noted that the option you ordered was not being added to your new vehicle, and did not report this to the dealer, nor did the dealer attempt to correct it, assuming he knew nothing about the incorrect order since you did not notify him. Thus, there is a shared responsibility/liability here, the dealer for not checking to make sure the vehicle was ordered correctly, and you for not bringing to their attention the "missing" 401 package.

    Quite frankly, I would not accept the car they built for you nor would I wait for another one, especially in winter in Europe. If you want ventilated/heated seats, which includes a fan under each front seat to blow the cabin air through the bottom and back of the seats and/or with the heated seats button pressed to one fo the three settings, warm/hot air through the bottom/back of the seats, then you should get them. I live in Florida, and needless to say, it's the ventilated cool air that is essential here during late spring, summer, and early fall.

    I would sit down with the owner/general manager of the dealership and go over this mess! Insist that he have a new car ordered for you with the exact options and colors you want and have it delivered to his dealership ASAP at the same pricing as if you took European delievery (7% below MSRP, which is approximately dealer invoice. If youi want the multi-contour seats, insist that this be added as part of making you a satisfied customer.

    Another possible solution is to have the general manager of the dealership involved in "locating" the car you want and having it shipped to his dealership with the above stipulations. If the dealer is uncooperative, TAKE YOUR BUSINESS SOMEPLACE ELSE!

    Even though you share some of the responsibility for the problem (by not notifying the dealership of the option not put on your car, but ordered and not showing up on the confirmation), you are the cusomter, and in this case, the customer is always right. You should not have to wait 2 months for a car. All I waiting was 6 weeks from the time I ordered the car and the time I took delivery here in Florida.

    Good luck with whatever you decide and enjoy this car - it is definitely worth waiting for with the improvements in the transmission and engine that they have made.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    Yes, a $2000 below invoice is a good deal since he is selling you the vehicle for about his invoice and will receive $2000 from Mercedes Benz to cover the below cost price. Remember, the 2012 4 door sedans are in tight supply for some reason, throughout the country. Anytime you can buy a limited inventory car for that price is excellent.

    Pre-paid maintenance is a great feature if they would throw it in for you. The average A maintenance is $330.00. So, you get $1000.00 worth of maintenance for about $700 +/-. At the price he is selling you the car for, I would doubt he has much room left to accomodate the "throw in maintenance", however, with this being the end of the year, he might be willing to eat into his 2% holdback a bit. Who knows - but if you don't ask, you'll never know.

    If you are getting the luxury model, there are not alot of them available since 90% of the E350 production this year is in the sport model. Swapping wheels is difficult because of the tire pressure sensors in each wheel - which sends data to the car's computer system. When you change wheels, everything has to be re-programmed - and is costly in terms of shop hourly costs. It takes a tremendous amount of time to change wheels and tires because of the reprogramming.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • Abacomike--many thanks. Very useful information.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    You are quite welcome!

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • hhoythhoyt Posts: 2
    Many thanks. I have now revisited the issues and wished I had read your reply much closer before accepting the deal. Here is what happened that slipped my mind.

    I settled with the saleslady on the vehicle E350 I wanted. When I got home and had 24 hours to think about it I called back and said lets add heated and ventilated seats. She said that would require the leather option which was $1600. She called the ED office at MB in New Jersey and they agreed to ship the car I originally ordered the day before to the dealership and replace my order with a vehicle with leather and ventilated seats. The sales lady then had the exact vehicle put on the Purchase Order but somehow, someway the New Jersey office skipped the ventilated in favor of massage.

    I just decided to let it go but after re-reading your response I wished I had asked the sales person yesterday to try the "ship ED to USA". I think at this point I will let it go. I will just make up my mind to be happy with what is delivered to me in Europe.

    Another thing that really surprised me on this forum (wished I'd found it
    before I ordered) was the 90% of E350's are sport. Mine is luxury. I'm stunned at that ratio.

    If I may add a final question, I was trying to find out the shipping dates from Europe to Brunswick, GA. I am scheduled to pick up my vehicle on Jan 11 and redeliver at on Jan 12. It will be winter in Europe and I wasn't sure I wanted to chance driving on snow or ice. Do you have any idea if European Delivery is faster from the factory? I understand the shipping point is Bremerhaven. I leave from Frankfurt on the 13th. Not sure about getting to Frankfurt airport from Bremerhaven. In other words I was hoping to drop off the vehicle at the place where shipping to Brunswick would be fastest. Harms said to contact their offices but they have not responded (Bremerhaven) in a week to my emails.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 9,783
    I took European delivery on my 2007, BUT NEVER AGAIN! It was February, and all I dealt with was snow and ice, and the trip was a bummer. I should have taken European delivery in October, but not after that. The accommodations were excellent, but the driving was treacherous. Then, I had to drive the car to the port of exit to the U.S. Took all the pleasure out of the European trip.

    There is a major difference between the sport and luxury models. The luxury models ride less firm, do not have different sized tired front and rear, have 18" tires and wheels for better traction and handling, but the tires wear out much more quickly - I usually get about 16,000 miles on a set. But, the styling (lower body and front grillework are different) is much more appealing on the sport, at least to me. The car rides a little stiffer, but handling is much improved over the luxury. I would expect resale on the sport to be better than on the luxury due to interior styling/exterior styling and the fact that most E350's are sport models.

    You will not realize any major increase in resale due to P2 overe P1, ventilated seats or multi-contour seats. The best resale is on a P1 with the sport wheel package and would be worth about the same as mine. (i.e., 62325 for mine, 57,000 for the other, but both would be worth about the same at resale time 3 years later).

    As you should be aware, your dealer can locate an identical car you want from more than 800 dealers nationwide and have that car shipped to his dealership, and the cost would be minimal since MB is contributing to the cost due to their error. I would take the car here and then take a nice trip through the U.S. and Canada this summer. Besides, Europe can be seen any time and driving a rental is safer than driving my new vehicle, especially through Europe.

    Good luck on whatever you decide.

    2018 Mercedes S450

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