2013 and earlier-Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

isellhondas

It's a Honda. They bring crazy money and 100,000 miles is nothing for a Honda.

bottgers

I guess that's good to know in case we do end up buying this car because someday we'll want to sell it.

blueiedgod

I work with a woman who is selling her '93 Civic. It's a sedan with about 130k miles. It's an automatic and is in very good shape. The interior is flawless, and the only thing wrong with the exterior is one small door ding in the driver's door and a few small chips in the paint on the front end. The engine compartment is also very clean and there appears to be no leaks. It has new tires and belts and it's a very nice driving car. I drove it a few miles down the road. I noticed it does need a new speedometer cable as the speedo works intermittently. Other than that, I couldn't find anything wrong with the car. She said her daughter bought the car new and drove it for about 1 year, then this lady I work with has been driving it since. She said her husband has maintained the car maticulously since it was new. I can't varify this, but it looks and drives like this is true.

  

I don't think she'll take any less than $1500 for the car. Does this seem like a good price? I've checked used car values in Edmunds, Kelly Blue Book, and NADA and their prices on this car range anywhere from $1100 to $2200. I'm looking for a car for my daughter and I need something reliable, but I can't spend more than $2000. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

Just make sure that the timing belt was changed at 120,000 miles. Timing belts on those Civics had a 60,000 mile intervals. It could cost you an additional $60-$600 to replace the timing belt. While at it, it is not a bad idea to replace the water pump as well.

 

AS far as why an 11 year old Civic costs that much, WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD RESALE VALUES. Honda's and Toyota's demand higher resale values because of the quality of build and design, and the fact that at 100,000 miles the engine is just broken in. I used to have an 85 Civic, I sold it for $1200 with 350,000 miles (in 1995), and it still runs. I see it in the neighborhood once in a while.

Kirstie_H

The good news is that even if you pay a little more for a used Honda, if you decide to sell it in 3 years and it's still running, you'll be able to get good money for it then.

 

Let's say you pay $2000 for it today - your daughter keeps up the maintenance and repairs. You should still get $1000 out of it in 3 years. You just can't buy anything that runs for much less than $1000, and it IS a Honda. That means she'll have driven it for $333 a year + maintenance. Not bad, not bad at all.

 

kirstie_h

Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions

Roving Host

bottgers

I plan on maintaining the car myself so it should stay in good shape. I guess I don't mind paying a bit more for a car that should be more reliable than most other cars. It's worth the piece of mind.

bottgers

So much for the Civic. Apparently, the lady's son-in-law hit a deer with his vehicle over the weekend. Since the Civic originally belonged to his wife, she thought they'd offer it to him. He decided to take it. Figures This kind of crap always happenes to me when I find a vehicle I want to buy.

isellhondas

Move faster. I'm really surprised someone else didn't snap it up while you were deciding what to do.

 

Cars like that sell immediatly.

justbrowsing

hi, i'm looking to buy a civic coupe LX w/auto transmission & side airbags. i was quoted $16,400 out the door by a dealer who is a friend of a friend but there are none of these cars in stock in california (in black, the only color i want) & the 2.9% financing ends tomorrow... should i buy the car and hope it comes in soon so i can take advantage of the apr or should i wait til it comes in & hope another deal pops up? TIA!

bottgers

The move wasn't up to me. The lady hadn't decided for sure whether or not she wanted to sell the car yet. She said if she did, she would give me the first shot at the car since I was the first person she had talked to about selling it. Apparently, this incident with her son-in-law took presidence over her telling me I had the first shot. I may still have a shot at the car though. She said he may not want to keep it. In this event, she would again offer the car to me. Her husband seems a bit flighty on exactly what price he wants for the car though. I made an intial offer of $1200. She said that sounded like a fair price, but she'd have to talk to her husband. He said he wanted to get at least $1500 for the car, until they went looking at new cars over the weekend, where he was telling dealers he would take no less than $2000 on a trade. The price keeps going up, unless he plans to offer me the car (if the son-in-law doesn't want it) for $1500. I would go for that price. I'm not giving him $2000 though. That's too much for a 12 year old vehicle with 100K+ miles. I don't care if it is a Honda.

zepboy

With 100,000 miles?!?! Thats what a Toyota dealership in Milw. is asking for it. Should I be wary in purchasing it? It looks nice(under the hood as well), runs and sounds great. But it has been on the lot for 120+days. KBB has it retail for about $9,000.

Is this an offer I can't refuse or am I wise to be sceptical?

 

Thanks Honda Junkies

bottgers

Why would KBB say ANY car with 100K miles is worth that much? That's nuts! I don't care what kind of car it is. If you're really interested in the car and it's actually been on the lot that long, I'd offer 'em about $4500. All they can do is say no.

zepboy

maybe KKB is full of left over holiday egg nog??? Regardless thats what they say. You're right what can it hurt to low ball, especially with a winter storm coming our way in S.E. Wisconsin.(not much store traffic). Why they would accept anything lower than trade in value is weird but what the hay...hey??

isellhondas

I understand. As far as 2000.00 being "too much" for a 12 year old 100K Civic, you are badly mistaken. These really hold their values.

 

The whole deal does sound a bit flaky however.

isellhondas

I'll bet it's a stick. Those are harder to sell but, still, that's a great buy if it's in good shape.

 

120 days is a long time for ANY used car to be on the lot so I would proceed with caution. does it smell like cigeratts or dogs? Previous body damage?

zepboy

Actually it's an automatic. It's very clean, no pet/smoking odor. There is a golf ball size ding on hood, dime size area by rear window top coat paint peeling and I guess the dealership did repair two cracks on front/rear bumper. Carfax report everything ok. Wife and I went to look at it again today and salesman said to take it home, get a better feel for it and have mechanic check it on Monday. Which we will. I do know Honda recomends the timming belt to be replaced at 105000, so we would need to have that done in near future. But I'm still dumbfounded on why it sat that long and is priced that resonable.

 

!!Go Pack Go!!(sorry, wrong forum)

blueiedgod

top coat paint peeling

 

This is why. Most people buying a car want a nice shiny coat. That is why used car dealers spend more hours detainling used cars to shine like they were new, while neglecting the mechanical issues. Shall I say that most people are "Shallow Hal"?

If the car checks out OK mechanically, you'll have your self a diamond in the rough.

trixr4kiddz

1999 civic sir hatchback for $6250

the price is canadian money

i saw it on autotrader

looks pretty nice

heres the description...

 

1.6L, auto, ps., pb., SIR, front bumper with fog lights, new speed springs, $1000 stereo system, very well maintained, runs excellent will cert., E-tested. 2nd owner. No reasonable offers refused. 145,000 km. $6250.

wat do u think?

blueiedgod

It is kind of low for Si/SiR. I think the 1999 Si with 90,000 miles demands more than $10K. If it has not been abused and is a real SiR, not Si/Ex with SiR logos, it may be worth looking into. It will all depend on the condition of the vehicle. The $1000 system is worthless, unless it is really good one. Chances are it is just a HU, and a couple of amps with subs.

 

I am not sure if carfax works in Canada, or if there is a similar service. If you like the car, it may be worthwhile checking it out via such a service.

john500

6250 $Canadian = about 5150 $US

145,000 miles = under 90,000 miles as blueiedgod pointed out.

 

Sounds suspiciously low in price. It might be worthwhile doing a compression test before purchase. Is this the same engine as in the 1999 Civic SI's sold in the US (160 hp)? I thought the Si-R models were exclusively sold in Europe and Japan (was it imported to Canada?). If it was imported, I would want the emission test confirmed again. If everything checks, it sounds like a good deal.

isellhondas

Based on your description this car may have had a HARD life! I stay away from the ones that have been modified and suggest you take an extra hard look before jumping in.

trixr4kiddz

hey thanks guys for the repliesss

i also found this civic

 

its being sold for $5000 canadian

1999 civic, 184000 KM

manual, 4 dr., 1.8L, 4 cyl., gas, front wheel, green exterior, grey interior, bucket seats, air conditioning, am-fm stereo, compact disc, power locks, cruise control, drivers air bag, passenger air bag, anti-lock brakes, keyless entry

 

heres the link...

http://www.trader.ca/Autoforum/default.asp?cat=-1&subcat=-1&a- mp;make=-1&model=-1&sortby=3&sortorder=2&pagedd=6- &pagedd=6&CP=5&vlot=46174&adid=3805468&trader- =1&BRAND=&category=-1

blueiedgod

6250 $Canadian = about 5150 $US

145,000 miles = under 90,000 miles as blueiedgod pointed out.

  

Sounds suspiciously low in price. It might be worthwhile doing a compression test before purchase. Is this the same engine as in the 1999 Civic SI's sold in the US (160 hp)? I thought the Si-R models were exclusively sold in Europe and Japan (was it imported to Canada?). If it was imported, I would want the emission test confirmed again. If everything checks, it sounds like a good deal.

 

SiR's were legally sold in Canada by Honda Canada, like you said it is the same ad US Civic Si. Canadian Civic Si is equivalent to US EX.

blueiedgod

hey thanks guys for the repliesss

i also found this civic

  

its being sold for $5000 canadian

1999 civic, 184000 KM

manual, 4 dr., 1.8L, 4 cyl., gas, front wheel, green exterior, grey interior, bucket seats, air conditioning, am-fm stereo, compact disc, power locks, cruise control, drivers air bag, passenger air bag, anti-lock brakes, keyless entry

  

heres the link...

http://www.trader.ca/Autoforum/default.asp?cat=-1&subcat=-1&a- mp;make=-1&model=-1&sortby=3&sortorder=2&pagedd=6- - &pagedd=6&CP=5&vlot=46174&adid=3805468&trader- - =1&BRAND=&category=-1

 

It is either an honest mistake or a frankensten in disguise. '99 Civic came with 1.6 liter not 1.8 liter, hoever, there are Civic's with 1.8 liter integra engine that was swapped by some shadetree mechanic. If it, indeed, has 1.8L integra engine, it may have more problems that you may want to take on. Don't take me wrong, it is an excellent combination, a light weight Civic with integra engine, but like organ transplants, they are never perfect nor complication free. Frankensteins are good for people who are not affraid of grease and know a little bit about wrenching. Not too many mechanics would take on a job to fix it if something went wrong. These are usually "one of" custom jobs.

 

Good luck in your search. One word of advice, if you have a friend who is somewhat competent in cars taki him/her along to look at the car. No one can tell for certain from a web shot what condition the vehicle is in, and whether it has been wrecked. If you don't have someone like that, take it to the shop you trust to be looked over. If you have $5000 cash to buy this car, you might as well put the $5000 down on a new car and pay monthly payments for the next 3 years and live worry free. This way you will avoid buying someone else's troubles.

zepboy

Thanks for responding everyone. Mechanic said it checks out well. Gave Honda of America VIN to get info on orig. dealership/maintenance history and everything is good. Except spoiler was added but there is no spoiler now. After having it for the couple days on trial I noticed more scuff marks and trunk was replaced(paint very slight mis-match). I had the nerve to contact the old owner and she did have the trunk replaced after someone tried to steal spoiler. She said other than that, car was great to her. So, I offered the dealer 6500 cuz I need to replace timing belt. He said 6750. I said ok but waive that stupid $99 service fee(junk fee). He said he couldn't cuz if he did he would have to do that to everyone or else he could get nailed for discrimination. Didn't like that answer so I said call me if you change your mind.(figured why would they not sell the car over a $99 fee) Anyway 3 days have passed and he left a message asking if I reconsidered. I haven't gotten back yet.

 

Good Day All

isellhondas

Why would you LOSE a car over a 99.00 fee that the dealer has no control over?

 

He is correct. Everyone pays.

 

Don't let stubborness and 99.0 cost you a car unless you are having second thoughts anyway.

 

If that car is as nice as you say, it may be already sold. The dealer has no fear of loss here.

zepboy

Dealer called back and is going to try to back the fee out of the offer. Your right, my wife does say I'm stubborn. It's the Latvian side of me, I guess. We just may go for it

 

However last year I bought a 99 camry(somewhere else) and I requested to drop the fee, and they did. Wilde Toyota in Milwaukee

 

Thanks for the response and the reassurance.

sk0123

Heh, the 'call me back if you change your mind' never seems to fail to work. Of course, I didn't use it to buy my car, but if you've got a month or two to shop for cars you can always use it, and somebody will be guaranteed to bite.

zepboy

Today I put a down payment on it. Saturday I go to the credit union to get the check cut and pick the civic up. $6750 + tax title and license(7241.50 total) No Service fee(Junk Fee). Thats two dealerships that I asked to wave the fee, they were both reluctant and took abit of time but my guess is they don't want to loose a sale over $99(in my case)service fee.

 

Regardless I hope my new civic serves my family well.

isellhondas

My guess would be that they didn't drop the fee but reduced the price of the civic by another 99.00. Hope it works out for you!

zepboy

Thanks, Me too! You are correct, They did drop the price by the $99 but I did check out my purchase order from the Camry I bought last year and there was no service fee on it.

wmu

Is 15,123 a fair price for a 2005 civic lx AT 4 door in Michigan? This price includes the delivery charge of $500 and is $300 below invoice price. I have not received any out the door pricing yet.

 

I received two similar quotes from different dealers. How should I use negotiate with them both?

 

I welcome any feedback from the experts.

isellhondas

***scratching head***

 

I guess I'm lost.

 

You were quoted 300.00 BELOW invoice on a popular car and you STILL want to negotiate?

wmu

I agree that below invoice is where I want to be and was happy with the number until the edmunds data was updated two days ago. Now the invoice price is 14,908 instead of 15,400 and the MSRP fell from 16,800 to 16,300. How does the invoice price change on a car? Now I am two hundred dollars above invoice.

 

The 15,100 quote is higher than the prices paid on this message board from November and December of last year. There are no posts telling what people are paying in 2005. I am trying to see what people are paying this year in Michigan.

 

Any thoughts?

isellhondas

What you are talking about since prices didn't fall.

 

Good luck...it just seems (to me) that you are putting yourself through a lot of trouble over very little money.

scitti45

I went to two dealerships on wednesday, both priced me about the same, Lundgren in Auburn for $15,895 and Majestic in RI $15,800.

  Should I try and talk them down to $15,700 or even lower? Everywhere I look the invoice price is different, it's hard to know how low I should push for.

crazygrrrl

My friend just bought a 2005 Honda Civic LX sedan (automatic) in light silver on Saturday. She got it for $14,600 plus tax & lic (about $16000 cash out the door)from San Leandro Honda. None of her local dealers could even come close to this deal! Everyone else's starting price was $14,900 and above. Anyone else got a great deal?

jaa37

The invoice price NOT INCLUDING the destination charge is $14,900; with destination, it's $15,400. Same with the MSRP. Hence the discrepancy in your two numbers. Does $15,100 include the destination charge? If so, then you're in fairly good shape. Carsdirect has it at $15,122, so I'm guessing you MIGHT be able to wrangle the price down to $15,000 or even $14,900. But $15,100 seems good to me.

leaf

Got Civic LX AT w/ SSRS today in Blue $15100 + TTL. 2.9% for 5 years.

Several dealers offer this price. If wait a little bit longer for bidding, might go down another couple hundreds. But one quote was very clear and the deal was no pressure.

dd123

Hi
I intend to buy a brand new civic ex end of this year 2005 model
I know current model is going to be out of market as completely revamped new civics are coming out on 2006
so can I expect a very good deal on 2005 civic this year end?
Any guess how much?

Thanks

DD

blueiedgod

Hi
I intend to buy a brand new civic ex end of this year 2005 model
I know current model is going to be out of market as completely revamped new civics are coming out on 2006
so can I expect a very good deal on 2005 civic this year end?
Any guess how much?

Thanks

DD

If you are not picky about colors and options, and willing to wait until after the new Civic is introduced (mid september) you can get a good deal. The longer you wait until after the introduction, the better the deal, but your choices will be limited. I think the last production of 2005 will be July, then the factories re-tool for the 2006. From personal experience, take the current MSRP and subtract $5000 from it to get a reasonable price in October/November 2005 on a 2005 Civic.

leaf

I think it's best to post the detail for this forum.

1) Car Modal with Options
2) MSRP
3) Invoice
4) Haggled price
5) APR if financed

See post 1457

Civic AT w/ SSRS
MSRP $17075
Invoice $15651
Paid 15100 + TTL
2.9% for 5 year

nuffy

Although the majority of members are American, and I am Canadian, I think that the question should be general enough for all to answer. I want to buy a 2005 Civic SE. The list price is $19,495 including PDI. What is a reasonable amount to expect the dealer to sell for?

phil2003

2005 Civic LX AT with SSRS $14,850 +TTL +Doc,etc.($75)

MSRP $17,075
Invoice $15,651
Price $14,850 + TTL
Other Fees(Doc+electronic filing) $75

2.9% 5 years

No dealer add ons

SF Bay Area

scooter71

From Honda of Kirkland (Seattle):

TMV price of $15,263 with destination charges
2.9% @ 60 months

The salesperson let me browse Edmunds and research the invoice etc right from their desk!

leaf

Wondering if any options on this car. Somehow the TMV is higher than most of us had haggled and paid at last.

scooter71

The TMV doesn't reflect solely what others pay, which is why a delta may exist.

FWIW I didn't care to haggle as the car and financing are already criminally cheap and I'm selling my other car for more than what I paid. Plus it was a sunny day and my time was better spent outside.

krishno22

My lease on my 2001 Honda Civic Coupe EX is coming to a close in May. I already had it inspected and the extra damage charges are $435 (a dent and a scratch). I am way under miles, I have 40k and I was allowed 60k (since it was my first lease I paid for 15k miles per month rather than the traditional 12k miles per month). I also realize that the dealership does not reward me for being "under" miles.

I could buy the vehicle from Honda Finance for $8500. The KBB price for selling it in "good" condition is around $10k. I know that if I buy the vehicle I will have to pay for tax and licensing which might be equal to $10k.

My other option is to upgrade to the 4 door Civic LX Automatic that I want. The current lease offer for that is 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX/SRS Automatic, for 36 month and 12K miles per year with $475.89 drive off at $251.65 per month.

So it's a two part question. Am I better off buying it or will the dealership overlook the $435 to get me into a new lease? Is the lease offer standard or do you think I could talk them down?

Thanks in advance.

blueiedgod

My lease on my 2001 Honda Civic Coupe EX is coming to a close in May. I already had it inspected and the extra damage charges are $435 (a dent and a scratch). I am way under miles, I have 40k and I was allowed 60k (since it was my first lease I paid for 15k miles per month rather than the traditional 12k miles per month). I also realize that the dealership does not reward me for being "under" miles.

I could buy the vehicle from Honda Finance for $8500. The KBB price for selling it in "good" condition is around $10k. I know that if I buy the vehicle I will have to pay for tax and licensing which might be equal to $10k.

My other option is to upgrade to the 4 door Civic LX Automatic that I want. The current lease offer for that is 2005 Honda Civic Sedan LX/SRS Automatic, for 36 month and 12K miles per year with $475.89 drive off at $251.65 per month.

So it's a two part question. Am I better off buying it or will the dealership overlook the $435 to get me into a new lease? Is the lease offer standard or do you think I could talk them down?

Thanks in advance.

If you leased through American Honda Finance Corporation, it shoudl have $1500 worth of damages built into the lease. Check your paperwork.
As far as the miles go, see if you can "sell" them to a co-worker. Let's say your co-worker/friend has a lease and is already close to being over the miles. Let them drive your car, while you drive theirs (you obviously have less of a commute), and get a luch or dinner out of it.

As far as the new lease goes. It seems too much. I pay $250/month, with nothing down, and I am not leasing, it is 60 month note, and it is an Si (two trims higher than LX). I think Honda advertised some leases under $200/month, like $189 or even $150.

leaf

As far as the new lease goes. It seems too much. I pay $250/month, with nothing down, and I am not leasing, it is 60 month note, and it is an Si (two trims higher than LX). I think Honda advertised some leases under $200/month, like $189 or even $150.

In my calculation, if you have 0% for 5 years, your purchase price is $15000 with 0 down.

If you have 1.99% for 5 years, the price must be 14200.

It is very good deal compared to my LX @ $265 a month for 5 years and $1000 down.

blueiedgod

In my calculation, if you have 0% for 5 years, your purchase price is $15000 with 0 down.

If you have 1.99% for 5 years, the price must be 14200.

It is very good deal compared to my LX @ $265 a month for 5 years and $1000 down.

Very close, $14,500 with $1000 down (to cover 6.0% sales tax) and 1.9% APR from AHFC for 60 months.

There are people on the other board who got their Si's for low $14K - high $13K's, brand new.

I thought it was a good deal too, and couldn't pass up.