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Just was wondering if I paid a good price for my 2005 Honda Civic EX automatic.
It is loaded with dealer options such as wheels locks for the alloy wheels, pin striping, sunroof visor and mud guards. Those 4 extras alone from Honda were an extra 1200.00. I paid 17,400 for it here in Fort Myers, Fl. It doesn't have side air bags and that price doesn't include destination fee and Fl 6% tax.
As to why there is a difference in trade-in and retail, this is the nature of the business; buy low, sell high. Plus Honda has very good resale, so I am not surprized that a $13,000 car in 2001 is still holding $10,000 mark 3 years later. A 2001 Focus, Neon, Sentra, and Cavalier will probably sell for about $5000 today with 36,000 miles.
Don't forget that whatever you save on buying the car here, you still have to pay shipping to Middle East, customs, and other stuff. It may be cheaper to buy one there.
And remember when you go to sell it later it'll be MUCH harder to sell.
Other than that, nothing wrong with a 5 speed!
2003 Civic EX 4dr (color: Shoreline Mist)
Auto
wing
12,500 miles
one owner clean title
all records and dealer service from new
$12,350
Private Sale
I was looking at new Civics but felt I couldn't pass up this deal!
I just talked them down to 15,500, listed for 16,800 on a new 2005 LX 2 dr.
$15,500.... How is that?
*To clarify - I did purchase and will be picking up later this afternoon. I think I did fine.
The invoice was 14,817 + $515. I've been looking hard for about a month. They added on the splash guards. (Extra $109)
This is what I took into consideration
Invoice: $14,817
+ $500 destination
+ $100 for splash guards
Total: 15,417
They turned down my offers of 15,100, 15,300 and 15,400...within a course of a couple hours. They accepted 15,500. I took the 3.9% over 5 years and put a thousand down. (College grad as of Saturday) Their grad program stinks with the 5.49% for students. I was eligible for 3.9%
The TMV "What others are paying" is about 15,700.. .so I think I did better than others. I think I did alright.
from Gardena Honda.
Their internet price was $15342.00
This got jacked up $150 for mud guards - which I know is a dealer thing,
but they made the extra effort to locate and 'import' the LX with side airbags in the color I wanted.
From the sticker, I could see it was from the inventory of Miller Honda in Culver City.
Total out-the-door price with fees and taxes was just below $17,000.
[Thank you Gov. Schwartzeneger for saving me several hundred dollars - I know we'll all pay later
And what's with that $40 "document prep fee?"
They tried to make me fill out a full credit application, even though it was a cash purchase. They used the Patriot Act as an excuse, but when I was prepared to get a bank check, they dropped this requirement.
Also a note about the side airbags - they're built into the sides of the front seats.
This latest redesign is supposed to be critical to the Civic's side impact performance.
It only has 83,000 miles and was always garaged. It has two small spots of rust by a tire but paint is very good overall.
I am trying to sell it on my own but see prices all over the place.
I am serious when I say that every person I have spoke to about selling the car seems interested (dentist, neighbors, employees at Autozone and even the salesman who was trying to sell us a new car. he said not to trade it in because he could get us a good deal)
We only just decided to sell 2 days ago so I want to be prepared.
Any tips? I know Edmunds says I should get around $1700 but I see it going for more and the mileage is so low (no problems with the car that I know of and it's been checked out)
Go by what the owner's manual says.
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If Taxi drivers knew about this oil, they would all save a ton on oil changes. My father owned a service station and he had a taxi driver come in to do oil changes almost every 3 weeks. Geez! What a rip off.
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You need to do some research on Amsoil. Comparing Amsoil to any other motor oil is like comparing bottled water to a bottle of Absolut Vodka. Just because they look the same, are both liquids and both can be consumed into the body DOES NOT MEAN THEY REACT THE SAME.
Motors that have done once-per-year oil changes will last FAR LONGER than you with the 4,000 mile oil changes with conventional oil.
Conventional oils (the oil you're using) are refined from crude oil. Refining is a process of physically separating light oil components from heavy ones. Crude oil contains millions of different kinds of molecules. Many are similar in weight but not in structure. The refining process cannot distinguish such molecules, so a wide assortment of molecules is present in the finished lubricant made from crude oil stocks.
Crude oils contain parafins causing lubricants to thicken and flow poorly in colder temperatures. Molecules containing sulfur, nitrogen, and other elements invite the formation of sludge and other products of lubricant breakdown, especially in higher temperatures. Sludge and breakdown are what cause the higher wear rates.
Amsoil is refined from PURE chemicals and not crude oil (the bad stuff we keep importing from IRAQ and other countries.) The basestocks for Amsoil do not contain sulfur, nitrogren other other elements that breakdown. Their resistance to breakdown allows them to be used longer than refined conventional oils.
The reason I found all of this in the first place is because I was having oil consumption in a brand new car. Everybody I spoke to told me to get the engine rebuilt under warranty. I told them they were all nuts and that when I got the car back then I'd have a ton of other problems after they ripped the engine out. I saw a person who had this problem with a Corvette. Instead of switching to Amsoil, he had the engine rebuilt and he said it was nothing but horror stories after he got the car back.
Anyway, I was looking for any kind of additives or oils or anything else I could put in other than rebuilding the engine. The Amsoil fixed all of my problems and I've been using it ever since. This stuff is now saving my family hundreds of dollars per year in the 4 cars we use it in, plus the increase in gas mileage pays for the oil so now our oil changes are virtually free because of the fuel offset.
I would say you have to be insane to use conventional oil after all of the stuff I've learned in the last couple of years about oil. Anybody who keeps using old-school petrolium oil is just ignorant about lubrication. If everybody thought like this, we'd still be using 8-track tape players instead of CD's. If they can fly a man to the moon, don't you think they can make oil that will last more than 3,000 miles? Comon.
Man, you're making me sound like a seller of this oil. All I want is the a way to contact the person for this Civic VP. I don't want to call Palm Harbour Honda only for them to tell me that they have no idea what I'm talking about when I want to buy a 2005 Honda Civic VP for $12,100.
Does it include Destination charge?
Thanks for your help!
Just call them up or better yet stop in, tell them you're an internet junkie and have seen several cases where they're selling for the low $12K range and make them an offer. The worst they'll say is sorry, but your internet research is wrong.
And, yeah...you do kinda sound like an Amsoil distributor.
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2005 VP w/ side air bags
13995.25 (out the door price, includes destination, processing, taxes, tags)
good price? i haven't done any hagglin'
thanks
edit: oops, i see this is a LX thread...well anyhow, is this a good price for a VP?
For the 05 Honda Accord EXV6 withOUT Nav.
thanks,
bpadar@hotmail.com
Also, do you think the O6 prices will be significantly higher???
Thanks,
Marc
I may have to end up buying a used Civic. I've seen several 2002 and 2003's selling for $5500 to $8500 with under 20,000 miles on them when I was looking at autotrader.com.
I'd rather buy a brand new VP so that way I could have a warranty... that's if I could truly get this car for $12,100. If Palm Harbor can sell it for that price, I don't see why all other Honda dealers can't match them. After seeing the 2006 Civics, now I can see why they want to hurry and get rid of the 2005 inventory. That 200 HP Civic coming out is to compete with the super-charged Saturn Ion and the 235 HP turbo-charged Neon I would imagine. The sub-100 HP Civic is pretty wimpy in comparison to these cars. Is Honda taking the engine from the S2000 and putting it in the Civic? That would seem like the right thing to do.
The only thing is.. I originally planned on going with a used* Civic coupe to get the options I wanted in my price range. I talked to another dealer and they said it would've costed me around $15,000 and I'd get the 0 money down and 3% interest for financing. They also brought up that I could get the 2005 VP for about $14,000 and they could add in some of the options I wanted. Can they really add in things on a VP? It didn't look that way to me by the Honda website, some of the things I want weren't considered "optional", they only came with the other models. Like cruise control, power windows, automatic. I know a Sunroof and keyless entry could be added in, but I'm sure for another couple of thousand. I can wait on that anyway.
Is my best bet to still go with a used? Right now I can't decide whats more important, getting a good deal like 9,952 for a brand new one or a few options. Even though I know Honda's hold their value well, it would still suck to get a new one and have to fix a few things on it making it cost more anyway.
The 2005 VP for $9,952 is probably a coupe, manual. While it is a good price, they probably have only one stock number for that price and "it was sold just 5 minutes ago." However, it does not hurt to go out there and check it out. The worst case you don't buy it. The best case, everyone else thought it was a scam and you will be the only one who got it "5 minutes ago" before the next guy shows up.
Anyway he got me some estimates and said the cheapest would be to lease a VP for 14-15,000 at $245 a month, or an LX for $269 with only about $1200 down. That's just a basic estimate since I told them I wasn't going to be buying one that day and I didn't want them doing any credit checks. (of course later when I was trying to leave they made a point to keep telling me they could possibly get it lower and meet my price requirements as best they can as long as I'm seirous..)
Another dealer gave me the special on financing straight out which is also on the Honda site. The 0% down deal, but at like $280 a month on VP couple. I haven't asked them about leasing, but they have an advertisemt about the $188 a month with 1900 down.
I'm mostly concerned with the payments and what's the cheapest way to go about getting a car. Leasing seems to be the best way. (Mileage won't be a problem for me).. But it seems like the same price for financing and leasing. I either pay 1200 up front or an extra 100 a month. Or the more I pay upfront, the cheaper my monthly payments are. Doesn't it come to about the same? :confuse:
I got a price of $15,500 without any negotiations from a Boston area dealer for Civic LX automatic with power windows, cruise etc.
Is this a good price? Appears to be the invoice plus the destination.
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Add in the 1.9 for 3 years and have the makings of a good deal.
Looks like the dealers are starting to become more aggressive !
Did you mean to say that you got that $15,500 price on anew 2005 Civic LX? Sedan or Coupe?
I like helping my friends across the country get good deals. I just helped my friend get a new 2005 Honda Civic LX Sedan for $14,900 plus tax, title, license and documentation fee in the suburbs of Chicago last week (End of May) plus he got 3.9% financing through Honda for 5 years.
The difference between a Civic LX and EX:
LX: 115 horsepower engine, Power Windows, Power Locks, Power Mirrors, Cruise, Air, Single CD, Keyless Entry
EX: ADDS to LX... a 127-HP engine, antilock brakes, alloy wheels.
EX Special Edition ADDS to EX: 6-Disc CD/MP3 Changer (in-dash), special alloy wheels, rear spolier and leather-wrapped steering wheel.