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You could do at least $400 better by going to either Dayton or Columbus, Ohio. Please see my posting #1675.
KC
DO you have any idea about Civic LX price in SF bay area?
Just wondering if the dealer gave you any insight in that regard.
KC
I didn't get the Wheel Locks or mud guards etc..that some people got from the dealer..but it wasn't something I was really looking into.
KC
Base is 16800 and OTD cost is 17671. Just got an email today stating they would knock off another 100.00 due to the clearance. Sorta nice as I had already stated the 17671 seemed fair and was already scheduled to come in.
The same email also offered a Coupe EX for 15890 base. So now we are trying to decide it its worth spending a bit extra for the goodies that come with the SE.
Both vehicles come with all the mats, guards, wheel locks, etc. So overall I think we are getting a good deal on either car.
They had very few Civic EX sedans in stock at the time I purchased mine. In fact, they had to make a trade with another dealer in order to get the color I wanted. Maybe I was just lucky to get the $1,000 under invoice price.
The only thing I can suggest is to send e-mails out to all the Honda dealers within a few hours drive of where you are located in Indiana. Tell them the best price you have been offered so far, and ask them to beat that price. Also, you may get better prices by waiting until the last few days of the month. Let us know how it turns out.
I have gotten the internet quote from them. I am just waiting for a good bid. Hope I have the same fortune as yours. :P
1. How can I take it back? Do they provide a temporary driving plate?
2. Do they provide a temporary insurance as what provided by rental company?
I appreciate your responses
:confuse:
About getting price quotes -- we do prefer NOT to spend hours in the dealerships with someone pushy. I’m planning to call around for competitive price quotes from the Honda fleet managers in my area. How close to invoice can we even expect to get? If it’s the end of the month, and it’s July, so supposedly the clearance is “on” or coming soon to make way for 2006 models.
Base Invoice is listed as $16,732 on Edmunds. Is that a real, official number that I can trust is the same for every dealership?
Destination Fee is $515
Total is $17,247
There’a a regional adjustment of +$107 as well.
There’s a manufacturer to dealer incentive of $400 for “Marketing Support.”
I guess I’m wonderin how to approach the fleet manager. Do I just say -- how close to invoice can you come? Can I ask that the $400 incentive be passed onto me? If I have to give a number, what number do I start with given the above information?
I don't really understand how they can even go below invoice sometimes -- rebates and stuff?
Thanks for any help you can give me!
One other thing to consider is availability. The longer you wait the less likely the dealers are to have what you want, and I don't think that they are getting any new 2005s anymore. I checked about a dozen dealers, and only one had the exact make and color that I wanted.
Good luck on your purchase, and be sure to let us all know how you do.
As for buying for under $1K under invoice--I was able to obtain that pricing, but someone else post above that they were able to get 1,100---arrrrr...It had around 35 miles on the car since the dealer I was working with didn't have the SIlver in stock and had to be traded with another dealer. I guess they are getting desperate to remove the 05.
KC
So, I called 11 Honda dealerships today on my lunch hour. Invoice base price for the 2005 Civic EX Sedan with front airbags is $16,732. Add destination charge of $515, and you get $17,247.
I asked for the Internet Managers when I called, and most were busy or I assume at lunch. So I left a message asking whether they had the exact car I wanted in stock. Most of the dealerships returned my calls eagerly, but didn't have the color I wanted. Seems to be popular. 3 of them, however, did have it. One was $17,756, the next was $17,300, and the winner was $16,948.
Not bad for a first time buyer eh??!
It's near where I work, so I'm going to the dealer first thing in the morning, get the deal in writing, look at the car and make sure it doesn't have 5000 miles on it (haha), put a deposit on my Mastercard, and go back to work
Everyone cross your fingers that it ACTUALLY EXISTS. (Although I did confirm with the main guy, and then called again to double check and tell them I'm coming down there...)
Will let ya know.
Suggestion:
If you get a quote of $16,948 from one dealer---just call the other 3 or 4 dealers asking...Hey...I got a quote of $16,850 (I usually subtract a $100-----What can you do to earn my business? (Could be $$$, extras, etc...)
Later,
KC
I think someone posted the new 2006 pictures somewhere--it looked really ROUND--not my type..
This is my first time buying a new car or going to a dealer. I have been doing research and I find new interesting things about cars/how to negotiate with dealer everyday. However, it is about time and I need to buy really soon.
I have been looking for NEW HONDA CIVIC LX 2005 4 door couple weeks and going to dealers. I sometimes think it is a good price then everytime I go to a dealer it does get cheaper and cheaper by a little. I just don't know when to stop~then I can't stop because it is getting cheaper...
I also understand the price can be different for every state and where you live. Well~ I live in Rochester, NY, which is western NY.
The price I got yesterday was $16235.$$ OTD.
I know it is a good price. BUT is it really good? can it get any lower? is it possible? Please, Let me know. I am getting very frustrated with my minumum knowledge...
PLEASE HELP ME~~~
Usually the best price is available about an hour before closing time on the last day of the month (preferably the third month of the quarter). Dealers REALLY want to make their quotas.
I'd also add that if the weather is bad, and there are fewer customers in the showroom on that last day of the month because of the weather, the need to sell NOW becomes even stronger.
Of course, the pressure increases at the end of the model year, especially if there is a redesign imminent. That's the case with the 2005 Civics.
Good luck to you!
I am looking for the one with Side Air bags.
I 've been on the Edmunds forums since their inception and was probably one of the first 100 people to visit their web site (in '94-'95?) and have never seen anyone get a new Civic for $1K or more below invoice except for the '01+ Si Hatchback (HB) which noone wants. I also don't even remember any marketing support or incentives on the regular Civic except again for the Focus look-alike Si HB.
I did some research and found what I had expected. Honda car sales are down accross the board in 2005 (truck sales are up). This hasn't happened to Honda in a decade and a half, so it now explains the $500 marketing support/incentive, and the $1K under invoice sales you guys reported.
Here are the #s from the official Corporate Honda media division web site. In June '05 Civic sales were down -7.2% as compared to June '04. Sales from Jan-June '05 are down a whopping -12.7% compared to the first 6mos in '04 last year! Total Honda car sales in North America are down -6.6%. SUV and truck sales are up 15% however.
So in light of these figures, I 'm not surprised at all the great discounts that can be had for a new '05 Civic. Go get 'em boys! :shades:
Since I already have an '01, I 'll wait till Jan-Feb. after a nice snow storm, like I usually do, and see if I can get the new generation Civic for invoice. I can't resist 1.8L and 140hp (for the '06). No will power
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Good luck.
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some questions for other posters:
if you finance the car through deal (i.e. 2-5% APR), do they usually add on any loan fees? do you get taxed on monthly payments? during ur initial purchase, do they tax you for entire value of car or just the amount of down payment? thanks.
Please realize that the "out the door" price that some people keep discussing, is meaningless. It is different in each part of the country because of different tax rates. You can't change or negotiate the destination charge on the window sticker. You can't change or negotiate your jurisdiction's taxes or motor vehicle bureau licensing and titling fees.
What you CAN do is your homework to determine the dealer's actual cost for the vehicle, then add a modest profit ($100 to $200?) to make an offer. They might try to tack on dealer fees, etc. Just tell them that you are ready to buy a car NOW from the dealer with the best price and if they want to lose your business, you can just go down the block or across town for a better deal. Start walking and see how much more anxious to make a sale they become.
According to Honda's website the VP has air conditioning, but you have to move up to the LX to get power locks (among many other features).
The Sandman
I am not sure if you are considering other vehicles, but I also test drove the corolla
(ce, auto, pwr door locks and cruise control) and I got a rock bottom price of $14,500 OTD (Al Hendrickson and King toyota).
Now between the civic and the corolla - in my opinion - the civic test drove better and is roomier in the leg area (not by much, but at 6'2" every little counts).
I hope this post was helpful. Let me know how things went for you.
I am so confused and really don't know what to do now. I really wanted EX SE and Black is my wife's favorite color.
Do you guys think that all dealers are out of stock with SE(Black)? What should I do now? Please help...
thanks!
Can you tell me which dealer you used? Do they still have any more civic?? I live in PA, so I don't mind driving down to MD for a couple of thouands dollars of savings.
Thanks,
Try looking at it this way... Black cars look great when they are clean. It's hard to keep them looking that way. Much more so than with most other colors.
Wow! That's an esthetic question that you should discuss with your wife.
Judging by this Honda Exterior Color chart, I'm slightly inclined towards the darker Magnesium Metallic, but both that and the Satin Silver Metallic look great.
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/exterior_colors.asp?ModelName=Civic+Sedan
Looking at cars on the lot at different times of day and evening might give you a better perspective.
BTW, did you buy it or not?
thx in advance.
I am in Omaha(Nebraska). My dealer couldn't locate Black so I changed my mind and asked for Silver. He says that he found one and ordered for me which I should receive anytime next week.
I really don't know but in Midwest new car market is not competitive as in East/West coast. I had to negotiate hard to get $600 below invoice but other places people are able to get $1000 below invoice.
Thanks!
That's funny, they say the same thing about white. And I'd bet the same thing about yellow. Then they say that red gets you stopped by cops more often.
Maybe go for that invisible color, can't miss there.