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Yeah basically I gave up. A penny pincher will always be a penny pincher.
Great value for a Civic ? Fantastic car ? What have you been smoking. Its just a economical car for goodness sakes. Repeat, Economical. Have the latest and greatest car. Go look outside, and see how many are driving older vehicles. They won't care if you or anyone else has a economical Civic or anything else. Its just a car..... :confuse:
Don't let our resident Honda dealer fool you here folks. MSRP is a rip. That money goes DIRECTLY into the dealers and salesperson's pocket. They are the ones that truly benefit in the end. Hell, they basically double dip. The get you for MSRP now and then low ball you 2-3 years down the road when you try to trade it in.
Remember, this is the first year of the redesign. That means they will without a doubt have more problems. That means 3 years from now the dealer will scoff at giving you good value for your trade.
I bought a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Special Edition Silver with Leather (not a Honda, but still a nice vehicle) that had a MSRP of $29,500 and it is in perfect condition, less than 2 years old and less than 27,000 miles on it dealers are offering me $13,000 trade if I buy a Accord at the MSRP price. Ridiculous. The same dealers have 2002 Jeep Laredo's on the lot with $18,999 on the sticker and they have 50,000 plus miles.
Never pay MSRP for anything that depreciates as fast as a car. You are a fool if you do.
They can drive down the street, and yell out, LOOK WHAT I JUST GOT...AND I JUST PAID MSRP. I'M REAL SMART IN DOING SO TO, BECAUSE ITS WORTH IT.. And I'll just shake my head, smile
Let's stick to specific Prices Paid & Buying Experiences for the Honda Civic..
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My wife loves it and it will be a great car for her. We just got married and she is using it to go back and forth to school. It actually fits me really well ( I am 6'7'' and 235 lbs), at least much better than I thought it would. 40 mpg won't hurt either.
All I have to do now is get rid of my 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Special Edition and I will have a brand new Accord or Camry.
If anyone has a chance they should really try to scoop up one of the remaining 2005 Honda Civics. You could probobly walk OTD at $13,500 or less for a similar VP w/ Auto. Dealers are really cutting the prices on these.
Hondas, especially Civics hold a VERY high resale value down the road. On the other hand Jeeps are among the very worst on that catagory.
Especially now, with gas at 3.00 a gallon, cars like that are almost impossible for dealers to get rid of.
It's called Total Cost of Ownership. That's what really matters!
I have a dealer that sells all Hondas for $416 over invoice in Northern Oklahoma. This has been discussed many times before. I have bought 5 Hondas there over the years. Not always the best price but when new they are. I bought my ODY there when MSRP ruled the day. Cannot violate the rules but you can find on the web if you look for Mark Roberts Motors. Prices are clearly shown on the web site and you will be surprised. They have civics for immediate delivery. EX auto is $18388 plus 49 doc fee. Navi is $19700 as I recall. 2006 SE Accord 5 speed is $19,625 all day long.
tawneycat or inkyofOK take your pick
Thanks for the info...just checked out their webpage...are they a straight shooter as it appears? I know it may be hard this day and age to believe things but here in Tampa one of our local dealer had a mark up of $5K on a Civic EX Sedan...yep you read right...$5K above MSRP! And the sad part is I bet someone is going to pay it just because it is the new model Civic.
By the way...do they have dealer fees? And if so how much?
Again, thanks for the info on the webpage!
Since we might be looking at $5.00 a gallon next week nationwide with Rita, I'm not sure what to do.
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Do your homework to see what you're looking for is selling for? Then decide if it's worth it to you. Basic law of supply and demand folks.
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And no I don't work for any Honda dealership.
they are in Bartlesville, old oil capital of Phillips 66. So simple and honest there.
You get a free jacket for buying there and a nice pen. No gimmicks.
The dealer is known for integrity. Too good to be true? I bought 3 Odys there an Accord and a Dodge Caravan when the sold those-no more....
Yes the doc fee is an astounding $49. Must pay for the jacket and pen with that.
Call their 800 number, ask for anyone and the deal is real. I am lucky to live in Tulsa. We got our 05 ODY there and always such a no hassle pleasant experience.
Many folks fly to Tulsa and the dealer will pick up at Airport and deliver painlessly.
Years ago when I was allowed to post contact info I sent about 30 people there nationwide (my motives we not so pure :shades: and used to get $50 referral fees. Now I just like to tell others in the hope that other dealers will be pressured to compete.
They even have all cars in an indoor showroom for protection. A hail storm wiped them out one year so insurance demanded it!
Just like those who paid MSRP + $3K to $6K more for the PT Cruiser and VW Beetle. I remember the first few week craze where in the used car classifed, people re-selling VW they just bought for MSRP + 3K.
Help me understand why compare Caravan to Odyssey.
It's not like people on this forum are hung up between Civic and Dodge Neon.
Why not compare Odyssey to Sienna?
Call me crazy, but if I were in the market for a minivan where my cap is the MSRP Odyssey, I would pay invoice for Toyota Sienna over MSRP Odyssey anyday.
Then try it sell it. I have a feeling that Sienna, which holds its value almost as good as Odyssey, that Sienna invoice was a better buy.
To me, Civic will still be a Civic. 2006 is much better quality car than 2005? Absolutely. But it's still a Civic. Value (quality for the money). That's the main reason for Civic sales.
Now you (mikefm58), are right when comes to luxury cars. For example, it's different ball game if you are talking about paying MSRP for the new GS430. Best bang for the buck in my opinion is not the main reason people are buying $50K cars. (On a side note, I have cousin who used to work at a Lexus sales. He said you'd be surprised how much more potental Lexus owner haggle over price than at a Toyota dealer).
If Honda wanted to charge quite a bit more from the get go, call is something else. It's not like they never done it before. Acura Integra became RSX and raised its price. Again, share many parts with Civic (Civic on steroids).
Where are you located? Would you be happy with an LX or only an EX? Coupe only or would you consider a 4-door also? Color preferences? I'll try and help you locate something if I can. I've got nothing better to do!
P.S. - It is on the dealer floor with two miles on the odometer.
According to Edmunds, the invoice price on that car is $15,332 (assuming it does not have side airbags). Taking into account the CD changer, you would be paying at least $1,000 under invoice. That sounds pretty good to me, but I'd still e-mail all the dealers in your area to see if there are any better deals. Good luck!
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And to top that off, they want $17900 for the vehicle.......and it's used. Comparable new ones are going for about $16000 plus TTL.
Looking to buy a 05 Civic LX, but most of the dealers in my area are sold out of new ones. Should I buy a used 04 Civic LX or go with the 05 Corolla? Have not seen any great remarks about the Toyota, but they are a little cheaper and seem to be more in supply.
Thank you.
The new Civics are being snapped up before they arrive and it's frustrating!
" You can't sell apples out of an empty cart"
Buying a car at Mark Roberts is a pure joy to behold. And if your not a smart [non-permissible content removed] thinking your going to beat them at there own game. They will knock off even abit more for you. We got the advertised price on there website plus another $300 off.
Wife and I both work in Tulsa and live in Okmulgee. Its well worth the drive to go to B'ville. The Tulsa dealers are THUGS.
I cant wait untill all the Civics are out and on the lot. We will then test drive them all. And also test drive a 06 Accord LX se sedan. We will decide which car we want and then drive it home at a very fare price. We will be treated with respect and basicly have a good time.
I wish I'd found them years ago.
The Civic VP still seems to be around in good supply here and there are some LXs floating around. Have you checked every dealer in your area?
Thank you for the response. I checked with all the dealers in my area and they only have used Civic LX's...which I would prefer not to buy.
The Toyota dealer has 06 Corolla's though.
When do new models (06s) typically come out?
I was thinking of buying around Christmas time...assume things will be slow at the dealer then and some of the rush to get new 06's will wear off...is this a good plan?
Thank you again.
Be that as it may, in the pass, I have bought a couple of days before XMAS(1986 for a 1987 model). That time of the year SEEMS to be a VERY VERY slow time in car sales. So depending on how motivated the dealership would want to sell their brand new 2006 stocks that would tend to be a good time.
The Sandman
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That was then, this is now...They are not dealing on the new Civic's, and no, they have not been reasonable with a trade. We are going to have to wait til later, unless you want the older 05 model, if they have any...Since the newness of the new vehicle and the price of fuel is way up, forget about a great deal anytime soon.
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A quoted price, and the actual price you will pay are to different animals. If you can get $760 off at this time, its pretty good considering most everyone else is paying MSRP. Don't forget the Destination charge/tax and lic as well, that will be tacted on. Target price is what ever the dealerships think they can get away with. We the consumer dictate that by either going goofy over a econo car and paying retail or waiting until the dealership hurts so much from us not buying and then they lower the price. Consumer reports won't help a bit. Its up to the market.
If you think anyone is going to have any 2005 Civs left by Christmas time, you are sadly mistaken.
The week BEFORE Christmas is traditionally dead. the week BETWEEN Christmas and New Year's is a mad house. Often the busiest week of the year where nobody takes a day off.
I ask because my friend wants to sell/trade her '95 Acura Integra on either a new Civic or an RSX; problem is, I can't find any inventories listed for '06 Civics for ANY local dealers, and of the three Acura dealers I've checked even remotely near her home, there are exactly TWO RSXs total (both black, one base, one 'S'). Should I be trying harder (looking farther away/calling rather than checking on-line), or just wait? I don't think there's any particular urgency, but still.....