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The Sandman :P
What have you been smoking ? Anyone buying MSRP is foolish, and thats being nice. Here, take my money, and here, take some more. Your Civic is worth every penny of it. Oh, by the way, here is some more money. I believe your car is worth more than even MSRP.......No way. Just a few weeks or months and the MSRP buying will settle down. Than what will you say ? I paid MSRP, and the other guy paid less. Boy am I the smart one
The MSRP on a 2006 Civic EX might put you in a well-equipped Accord; heck, even in a Volvo S40, with the current incentives!
Who would the smart buyer be, the Odyssey buyer paying MSRP or the Chrysler buyer paying invoice? The Odyssey buyer got more for less than the Chrysler buyer.
Would I pay MSRP on an 06 Civic? Heck no, they're so new now, the price is bound to come down. Just like the Ridgeline did when it first came out. Now if the new Civic happens to be a huge hit and prices stay up there, maybe I would when the 07's come out.
My point is, don't get hung up on MSRP, but use it as a simple pricing guide.
You are right allfiredup, about the interior color of ivory in a white car, and unable to opt out, and get something else. As soon as I opened the car door, I could not get over the bright awful color that was staring at me. It was over whelming in my opinion and closed the door immediately. If there are those that like that kind of color, so be it. I'm sorry, but it really does look lousy. Give me gray any day instead of that ivory color. By the way, it looked Gold to me and to the salesman.
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NOT interior color...
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I wish he would sell us his entire inventory of 2006 Civics for 500.00 over invoice! We would even pay the freight!
The salesman offered me two types of optional coverage which I can choose to take when I pick up my car and I'd like to get opinions from you. The first one is called M.V.I.D. (stands for Motor Vehicle Identificaiton) which engraves your VIN onto all sides of the windows. This is supposedly to deter thieves from stealing the car and selling the parts. It comes with the guarantee that "M.V.I.D. International Corp. will pay you up to $5,000 if your vehicle is stolen and not recovered within 30 days." It costs $317 with tax and according to the salesman, the insurance company will take off 15% off my comprehensive coverage for five years (I'll have to check that with my insurance agent).
The second coverage is called Road Hazard Tire & Wheel Coverage offered by Fidelity Warranty Services. There are two different kind of plans available: Standard and Deluxe, and within each you can choose a 3, 4, or 5 year coverage. For the Standard Plan, there's a $1,200 allowance over the life of your coverage ($2,000 for the Deluxe) for repairs or replacements for your tires and wheels from "road hazards" damages (note: not from wear). I just got the one-page brochure so I don't know all the fine prints, but again, according to the salesman, I can take my car to any Honda dealer or Pep Boys and pay no upfront costs (even though on the brochure it uses the word 'reimbursement'.) The one I'm considering is the Standard 3 year, which costs $175. I did some research on the company, and it seems like they have a bad rep as an extended warranty provider.
Does anyone have either of these coverages and could offer me some advice on whether to take up the offers?
Thanks for your help!!
Honda Civics aren't known for having super-low profile tires that are susceptible to tire and rim damage.. That seems extremely over-priced..
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Selling price $15324 invoice is $15924
Dealer fee 599 makes up for the low price, they wouldn't dicker
Sales tax 1005
Tag & title 150
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Out the door $17078
I sent emails to many Florida dealers and even a few in Georgia as we really wanted a blue one, but none are left. Courtesy Honda in Sanford, Florida gave me the best price and just gave me the impression that they wanted my business more than the others. Some dealers never responded to my emails and when I called them to discuss what I was looking for, they never even called back after I told them what I was looking for.
Story ends this way.... Just bought a 06 LE Corolla with options. Out the door was $ 16,644.00 ( LE, Automatic, Dimming mirrors, Fog lamps, Mud guards, Floor mats, Window tinting, Audio package, Cruise control ), Fees+Tax all included...
If that is how Honda is, I'll take my business somewhere else.... :shades:
You bought your Corolla for the price you paid because that is what the market happens to be on that car!
They certainly should have responded to your e-mail, providing it went through. People send me e-mails sometimes that I never get for whatever reason.
Now I'm happy again knowing that I have not wasted lots of money on a car. Just a car for transportation. I'll keep the saving that I would have had to spend on the Civic, and put it to better use, and enjoy the 06 Corolla LE.
What are those simple words we have heard before " United we stand, Divided we fall " If we could just stand together, and not go hog wild and purchase a new model at MSRP, the dealers would quickly learn not to gouge us in the first place. Too bad that human nature takes over for some of us, and throw away money on this vehicle, when it is over priced. Good luck to those that buy the Civic.
Not everything has to be discounted in order to sell.
Items that are "overpriced" won't sell. Simply market forces at work.
With the VIN you can get a careless parts department to make you a set of keys for about any car.
With the VIN someone could "steal" the ID of your car by putting your VIN on a salvage or flood damage car.
While I would think neither would be very likely, I think most folks think tattooing your VIN on every hunk of glass on the car is not a good idea either - and a waste of effort.
I would not buy any of this add-on stuff from the dealer, but I don't think I would put it on my car in any case.
In the case of the tires, you can check prices at TireRack (for example) for OEM or replacement tires. You can get a set of 4 decent tires for $200 or less + shipping.
Dennis
While I agree that paying too much is not a good option, prices are market driven. If you have to have the latest and greatest, then you either have to wait or pay the going rate.
Unless you HAD to have a car right now, you could have waited a few months and probably landed a much better Civic deal. Once the "gotta have the new design" folks gets theirs, the prices in most areas will come down. In fact, by next Spring Honda may find they have to once again offer dealer money to move the sedans.
AFAIK there is nothing wrong with a Corolla LE, but if you wanted a deal on a Civic you could probably have gotten one - with some patience. To rant and rave about no discount on a brand new model is just wasting your time. There are enough of "those folks" out there that will pay MSRP and over that the dealers will not have to discount for a while.
Dennis
I may be illegal to cover up the VIN in some jurisdictions. The police often want to be able to do a quick read through the windshield to check for stolen vehicles.
Incidentally, when I attended the Honda Civic Live test drive in NYC yesterday, I noticed that the 2006 Civic Hybrid that was on display (not available for test drives as were all of the other models) the VIN plate behind the windshield wasn't there. Just a couple of rivets.
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And I agree with one of the other posters, you won't find a Honda dealer in Florida that will knock off the "dealer fee" aka "doc fee", etc. I discussed a deal with at least 10 other dealers in Florida and none of them would take it off.
Thanks for the info
Would you rather be the guy that pays sticker price to drive an 06 car now when its hot and never been seen.
Or would you rather wait the 3-5 months till the price drops to save your $200-$300?
Earlier this year Honda put $600-975 per car in dealer incentives on the Civics and Accords (varied by month depending on sales). Not only did I NOT pay MSRP for my wife's Accord I paid $500 or more UNDER INVOICE. I can get an 05 Civic for invoice or less right now. The difference between an 06 at MSRP and invoice is $1,445 . So if you can wait a bit you can save a LOT more than $200-300. If they duplicated the incentives they had this year you could save $2k or more by waiting.
lore said: Would you rather be the guy that pays sticker price to drive an 06 car now when its hot and never been seen.
That means absolutely nothing to me, but if it does for you then go for it at MSRP or more. I can ask my daughter (the Civic is for her), but I am really sure she would rather wait and save money
Looking at the Consume Reports story: "The problem with new-car models
Think twice about buying a newly designed model in its first year " might be worth your time as well. On the last Civic re-do:
Similarly, the Honda Civic, which had only 16 problems per 100 vehicles in model-year 2000, increased 81 percent, to 29 problems, when it was redesigned in 2001. It dropped back to 16 problems by the third model year of the redesign.
Honda DOES have the best track-record for a new or re-designed vehicle, but they point out that even today the '99 Ody has 20% more problems than the '00 model - and has had more trouble from day 1. So he or she that waits not only saves money, they have fewer problems now and down the road.
Dennis
Yes you can get an 05 model at the end of this year for cheaper, but Im talking about a whole other car. I'm guessing you like to play it safe, only buy things at discount prices and only when they've been tested out completely. For the latest and greatest it's gonna be hard to get a really good deal, unless you know the dealer personally.
What Im saying is that people want cars NOW. They could prob save a bit by getting the old model and/or waiting a bit but they want the latest and greatest. For that comes a price.
And being in the latest and greatest CIVIC is a big whoop - it is not like you are getting a GT40 or Enzo or anything. Your 15 minutes of fame will be more like 15 seconds since this is mass produced car and is selling well.
My point is - you will save money and get a better car if you wait. So what is the rush? And the sooner folks quit lining up like lambs at the MSRP slaughter, the sooner the price will fall for EVERYONE.
Dennis
Why is it a MSRP slaughter if someone if happy with their purchase? Maybe they cannot wait due to their transportation needs. I recently bought a new car (not a Honda) because my car died. There's a reason for ya.
Think twice about buying a newly designed model in its first year " might be worth your time as well. On the last Civic re-do:
Similarly, the Honda Civic, which had only 16 problems per 100 vehicles in model-year 2000, increased 81 percent, to 29 problems, when it was redesigned in 2001. It dropped back to 16 problems by the third model year of the redesign. "
My plan was to buy next spring. Since the 2006 Civic is a new design, will there be any news by then on what the issues are and will Honda have had time to rectify those issues?
If they only offer cars at MSRP and folks do not buy them, then they will discount them to sell them. As long as folks "have to have" the latest and buy now then they not only pay too much but they delay others getting a discount as well.
Let them get excited about a new model, I am sure it is a nice car - but no reason to post or even look here if you are willing to pay MSRP or more for the car. We want to help folks find the BEST deal here - via referrals and references and what others paid. Anyone can do MSRP w/o any help
Dennis
If you are in no hurry I would wait until the 2007s are out, or until you can get a deal on an 06. That gets you past paying full price and some (most?) of the new car faults. I would ASSUME late-made 2006 cars would have fewer than early cars - but that would be an assumption.
As the CR story notes, Honda is the BEST at first-year VS last-year problems (BMW is dead last) so it is not like you are likely to get lemon if you buy at any time. Just a CHANCE of more problems than is normal for a Honda.
Dennis
MSRP is hardly a "slaughter". It's actually great value for a fantastic car!
Of course, some can't understand that.