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2014 Mercedes-Benz M-Class Lease Questions

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  • alijeealijee Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2014

    Well I went ahead with the pre - order on ML 350 RWD, it seems its going to be a MY2015,the deposit is $1000, its completely refundable within 10 days of cancellation if i choose to for any reason, which he has documented on the signed contract. Delivery by late AUG or early SEPT.
    I will be shopping for MY2014s in the mean time as a back up in case I get a much better deal.
    Also , MB will not lock in a price on a lease on a pre order, so i guess ill haggle when it gets there.

  • sk_sfsk_sf Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2014

    Hi,

    Whats latest residual and money factor on a 30month/7.5k miles per year, 2014 ML 350 AWD

    My MSRP is $60,0770 and the final price is $52,660.77. I am being quoted a post-tax monthly payment of $679 (includes 8.75% tax). Seems a bit high, but wanted the wisdom of the crowd. I am in San Francisco

    Thanks

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 194,146

    @sk_sf said:
    Hi,

    Whats latest residual and money factor on a 30month/7.5k miles per year, 2014 ML 350 AWD

    My MSRP is $60,0770 and the final price is $52,660.77. I am being quoted a post-tax monthly payment of $679 (includes 8.75% tax). Seems a bit high, but wanted the wisdom of the crowd. I am in San Francisco

    Thanks

    .00102 MF and 63% residual. At an MSRP of $60,077 (or is it $60,770?), I get a payment of $586/mo.+tax.

    To reconcile the figures, we'll need more info. What is the amount due at signing? And, did they disclose the money factor? And, most importantly... can you really get by with 7.5K mi/yr?

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  • sk_sfsk_sf Member Posts: 4

    Hi,

    Hoping for some quick help here - what would the pre-tax payment for the following lease be - and also for my education, the residual and money factor:

    ML350 2014
    30 months
    7.5k miles/year

    MSRP of $60,070
    Final price of $52,660.77

    Thanks!

    Sam

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @sk_sf said:
    Hi,

    Hoping for some quick help here - what would the pre-tax payment for the following lease be - and also for my education, the residual and money factor:

    ML350 2014
    30 months
    7.5k miles/year

    MSRP of $60,070
    Final price of $52,660.77

    Thanks!

    Sam

    .00103 (2WD) and 63%.

    Using your MSRP and final price, I calculate a pre-tax payment of $587.11 for 30 months.

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  • sk_sfsk_sf Member Posts: 4
    Thanks Michaell and kyfdx

    - yes, we'd be able to get by with 7500 miles a year. Am in a current ML and do less than that
    - yes, msrp is $60,070
    - there is no money down. Just the first month + title etc which is $1221 or so

    Questions:
    - this is an AWD, if I recall correctly. Does that change the money factor. Can I ask the dealership to disclose the money factor and importantly, if it's higher than what you guys are seeing (I live in the Bay Area), can I negotiate that?


    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @sk_sf said:
    Thanks Michaell and kyfdx

    - yes, we'd be able to get by with 7500 miles a year. Am in a current ML and do less than that
    - yes, msrp is $60,070
    - there is no money down. Just the first month + title etc which is $1221 or so

    Questions:
    - this is an AWD, if I recall correctly. Does that change the money factor. Can I ask the dealership to disclose the money factor and importantly, if it's higher than what you guys are seeing (I live in the Bay Area), can I negotiate that?


    Thanks!

    Yes, the MF is slightly different - .00102 for 4Matic, .00103 for RWD. Yes, the dealer can mark up the MF for more profit. Explain to them that you won't sign a deal unless it involves the base MF.

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  • sk_sfsk_sf Member Posts: 4
    Michaell - sorry for the back n forth. What would the similar terms be for a 36 month?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @sk_sf said:
    Michaell - sorry for the back n forth. What would the similar terms be for a 36 month?

    56% residual for 36mo and 7500 miles.

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  • monstermash56monstermash56 Member Posts: 1

    In Las Vegas, NV - Looking for current residual and MF for 2014 ML350 RWD, 36 month lease with 10-12K/year. Thanks!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @monstermash56 said:
    In Las Vegas, NV - Looking for current residual and MF for 2014 ML350 RWD, 36 month lease with 10-12K/year. Thanks!

    .00103 and 54% for 36/12. Add 1% for 10k

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  • chrish11chrish11 Member Posts: 28

    Please advise MF and Residual for 15k miles per year, 36 months. Thank you.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @chrish11 said:
    Please advise MF and Residual for 15k miles per year, 36 months. Thank you.

    Which model?

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  • pcl19010pcl19010 Member Posts: 4
    Hi:

    Could I have the MF and residual for a 2014 ML350 Bluetec for 3Y/10K miles and 3Y/12K miles?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 194,146

    @pcl19010 said:
    Hi:

    Could I have the MF and residual for a 2014 ML350 Bluetec for 3Y/10K miles and 3Y/12K miles?

    Thanks!

    Standard money factor and 60%/59% residual.

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  • chrish11chrish11 Member Posts: 28

    Sorry, ML350 AWD 36 months 15k miles per year.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @chrish11 said:
    Sorry, ML350 AWD 36 months 15k miles per year.

    2014 - .00102 and 52%

    2015 - .00135 and 53%

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  • Smartinez24Smartinez24 bronx, NYMember Posts: 24
    What are the MF and RV for an ML350 AWD for 30 month lease 12k miles
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @Smartinez24 said:
    What are the MF and RV for an ML350 AWD for 30 month lease 12k miles

    2014 - .00102 and 59%

    2015 - .00135 and 60%

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  • ellisina4ellisina4 Member Posts: 37

    Please help with MF and RV numbers: 2014 and 2015 ML550 36months, 10k/year

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @ellisina4 said:
    Please help with MF and RV numbers: 2014 and 2015 ML550 36months, 10k/year

    2014 ML550 and 2015 ML400 (no ML550) - standard MF (.00195 to .00225)

    ML550 is 51% residual; ML400 is 56%

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  • ishakirishakir Member Posts: 2

    Hello all,

    I have a few questions that I hope someone could answer for me as I prepare to lease an ML350 here in Illinois.

    1. What's the base money factor for the ML350 4matic on 12k/36m or 30m?
    2. It seems like dealers are willing to go really low on the MSRPs around here, I've sent two emails out with requests for 10-11% below MSRP and have not heard a no yet. How much off of MSRP is considered rock bottom?

    Thanks!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @ishakir said:
    Hello all,

    I have a few questions that I hope someone could answer for me as I prepare to lease an ML350 here in Illinois.

    1. What's the base money factor for the ML350 4matic on 12k/36m or 30m?

    .00102 and 59% or 54% residual - this is for a 2014 model.

    1. It seems like dealers are willing to go really low on the MSRPs around here, I've sent two emails out with requests for 10-11% below MSRP and have not heard a no yet. How much off of MSRP is considered rock bottom?

    Hard to say what rock bottom price is ... 10% off sticker is quite a lot in my book.

    One other thing to note ... Illinois (for the moment) has a nasty practice of taxing the entire purchase price of a vehicle on a lease, rather than taxing just the monthly payment. The laws are changing as of 1/1/15, but for now, your lease payment will be quite a bit higher than someone who leases in Wisconsin, for example.

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  • ishakirishakir Member Posts: 2

    Thank you for the reply. I wish I had the luxury of waiting until 01/2015! This will be my third lease in Illinois and it's painful every time. I'm glad to hear that this practice is coming to an end, however.

    Sounds like 36 months is the "sweet spot" as compared to 30 months?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @ishakir said:
    Thank you for the reply. I wish I had the luxury of waiting until 01/2015! This will be my third lease in Illinois and it's painful every time. I'm glad to hear that this practice is coming to an end, however.

    Sounds like 36 months is the "sweet spot" as compared to 30 months?

    Seems to be.

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  • Smartinez24Smartinez24 bronx, NYMember Posts: 24

    i got this quote i need assistance. its a loaner vehicle he said that they must include a charge Mercedes charges them for leasing them.... is that true?

    msrp 63,335
    sale price 53000
    charge** 1300
    final sale 54300
    785 with 2100 due at signing

    30 months 12k miles

    i also have a leased rolled in to that payment of 2,535. may i get the accurate quote on this vehicle

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 194,146

    @Smartinez24 said:
    i got this quote i need assistance. its a loaner vehicle he said that they must include a charge Mercedes charges them for leasing them.... is that true?

    msrp 63,335
    sale price 53000
    charge** 1300
    final sale 54300
    785 with 2100 due at signing

    30 months 12k miles

    i also have a leased rolled in to that payment of 2,535. may i get the accurate quote on this vehicle

    Well it's hard to say what the $1300 is for.. Every Mercedes lease has an acquisition fee of $795 (that dealers can mark up to $1095 for extra profit). Or, it's possible that the $1300 is to pay for the miles already on the car (in lieu of lowering the residual).

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  • Smartinez24Smartinez24 bronx, NYMember Posts: 24

    @kyfdx said:
    Well it's hard to say what the $1300 is for.. Every Mercedes lease has an acquisition fee of $795 (that dealers can mark up to $1095 for extra profit). Or, it's possible that the $1300 is to pay for the miles already on the car (in lieu of lowering the residual).

    he said is to pay the mileage on the vehicle in order to lease. does the calculation make sense? the taxes are included in the lease

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 194,146

    @Smartinez24 said:
    i got this quote i need assistance. its a loaner vehicle he said that they must include a charge Mercedes charges them for leasing them.... is that true?

    msrp 63,335
    sale price 53000
    charge** 1300
    final sale 54300
    785 with 2100 due at signing

    30 months 12k miles

    i also have a leased rolled in to that payment of 2,535. may i get the accurate quote on this vehicle

    I don't know what your taxes are.. .but, pre-tax, with $2535 added in, I get $745/mo..

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  • dkaodkao Member Posts: 5

    Please advice on RV and MF for 2014 ML350 AWD on 10K/36M and 10K/30M. Thanks in advance!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 194,146

    @dkao said:
    Please advice on RV and MF for 2014 ML350 AWD on 10K/36M and 10K/30M. Thanks in advance!

    .00102 MF and 55%/60% residual.

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  • chuckwardchuckward Member Posts: 3

    I want to lease a 2014 Mercedes benz E350 sedan 4matic. With all of the equipment, including $925.00 delivery charge, the MSRP is $61,505.00. So far I've had two quotes: 27 mo. lease 12K miles/yr. monthly pmt. $608.00 $2,000.00 down which includes 1st mo. pmt. Residual Value 67% Money factor 0.00130.
    Quote from another dealer: MSPP $61505.00 27 mo. $610.33/mo $2118.13 Down includes 1st mo pmt. RV 67% MF 0.00150

    I have not yet pushed on the negotiating end. Seems to me the the Money Factor is high. I haven't done this in a while so any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Also, are the MB maintenance programs worth it? Thank you.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 194,146

    @chuckward said:
    I want to lease a 2014 Mercedes benz E350 sedan 4matic. With all of the equipment, including $925.00 delivery charge, the MSRP is $61,505.00. So far I've had two quotes: 27 mo. lease 12K miles/yr. monthly pmt. $608.00 $2,000.00 down which includes 1st mo. pmt. Residual Value 67% Money factor 0.00130.
    Quote from another dealer: MSPP $61505.00 27 mo. $610.33/mo $2118.13 Down includes 1st mo pmt. RV 67% MF 0.00150

    I have not yet pushed on the negotiating end. Seems to me the the Money Factor is high. I haven't done this in a while so any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Also, are the MB maintenance programs worth it? Thank you.

    You might do better in the E-Class discussion, here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/16863/mercedes-benz/x/2014-mercedes-benz-e-class-lease-questions#latest

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  • erinzerinz Member Posts: 25

    Hi,

    I was able to track down a new 2013 ML350. Will the residuals be so low that it would make more sense to just get a 2014 unless I can get a killer deal on this car? What would the money factor be on a 2013 ML350 RWD 36/12k or 30/12k

    THanks in advance

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @erinz said:
    Hi,

    I was able to track down a new 2013 ML350. Will the residuals be so low that it would make more sense to just get a 2014 unless I can get a killer deal on this car? What would the money factor be on a 2013 ML350 RWD 36/12k or 30/12k

    THanks in advance

    MB does not have any residual or MF information on the 2013 models, sorry.

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  • erinzerinz Member Posts: 25

    @Michaell said:
    MB does not have any residual or MF information on the 2013 models, sorry.

    Thanks for the info. Can you advise the MF and RV for 2014 ML350 RWD, 36/12k and 30/12k

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @erinz said:
    Can you advise the MF and RV for 2014 ML350 RWD, 36/12k and 30/12k

    .00103 and 54% for 36/12 and 59% for 30/12

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  • stirustiru Member Posts: 1

    guys, any comments on below deal?
    2014 ML350 4MATIC
    36 mo/10k
    MSRP $59,655
    $0 down; $720/ mo all inclusive.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @stiru said:
    guys, any comments on below deal?
    2014 ML350 4MATIC
    36 mo/10k
    MSRP $59,655
    $0 down; $720/ mo all inclusive.

    What was the selling price?

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  • lbllbl Member Posts: 11

    What would be a good 24/36 month lease for 2014 ML550 4Matic with MSRP $69,204 in NJ? Thank you!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @lbl said:
    What would be a good 24/36 month lease for 2014 ML550 4Matic with MSRP $69,204 in NJ? Thank you!

    Not enough information to provide an answer. What is the selling price? How many miles per year are you looking for?

    The bad news is that the MF for the ML550 is "standard", meaning it's in a range from .00195 to .00225 - this means it will be expensive to lease.

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  • lbllbl Member Posts: 11

    Thank you for your quick reply. I'm looking for 12K per year. How much do you think this MSRP can be negotiated down?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @lbl said:
    Thank you for your quick reply. I'm looking for 12K per year. How much do you think this MSRP can be negotiated down?

    Use the shopping tools at the top of the page to figure out your target price.

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  • jinxinjinxin Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2014

    @lbl said:
    Thank you for your quick reply. I'm looking for 12K per year. How much do you think this MSRP can be negotiated down?

    Dear Lbl, i just leased a ml350 in NJ with Benzel Busch and this is after many months of research and discussions with other dealers, i got a fantastic price. if you want i can share with you my sales person and their info.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,457

    @jinxin, congrats. It's fine to share your dealer and their webpage URL. We frown on last names since that seems to encourage shills to post, but first name, initial is fine. And please post more details - MSRP, sales price, trim and zip or state info will help other shoppers.

    While I'm begging, please take a minute to write a Dealer Review too. B)

  • jinxinjinxin Member Posts: 6

    Dear Lbl, i just leased a ml350 in NJ with Benzel Busch and this is after many months of research and discussions with other dealers, i got a fantastic price. if you want i can share with you my sales person and their info.

  • jinxinjinxin Member Posts: 6

    For our east coast shoppers, i have purchased my first and leased my second MB from Benzel Busch dealing with Kathy Z. She is very honest and straight forward about pricing. No gimmicks nor games. My most recent lease is a 2014 ML350 4Matic, 36 months with 12k/year. MSRP 58,925, Final price is app 51,950. MF .00095 with direct pay. i ended paying 6800 upfront to keep the monthly pay under 600 with all other fees/expenses included.

  • breen1982breen1982 Member Posts: 2

    Hi, could you tell me what the MF & Residual are for a 2014 ML350 4Matic? Also, how does Direct pay affect the #'s? Thanks!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 189,452

    @breen1982 said:
    Hi, could you tell me what the MF & Residual are for a 2014 ML350 4Matic? Also, how does Direct pay affect the #'s? Thanks!

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

    AutoPay lowers the MF by .0001

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  • breen1982breen1982 Member Posts: 2

    30 months, 10K miles/year & 12K miles/year

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