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http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/service1.cfm?SearchTopic=Vehicle
Soooo........while I was there, I got a couple spare keys made, and I went back in and talked to the sales manager. Told him I was a charter buyer, paid more than they seem to be going for now, have tried to refer business to them, yadayadayada; all those things we've talked about in this forum. And...could he see fit to get me a rear mat, since the Kia corporate response was kinda lame? His response? "No problem, sir; I'll order you one today, on us. Thanks for coming in!"
So I guess it pays to be positive on those JD Power surveys.......
Oh, and I also chose a Sedona over a T & C, despite being able to afford either. DC makes a nice van, when new; I'll admit it. Part of my hesitation was friends' bad experiences, part was bad experiences with the dealers, part was suspicion of their deceptive, fake "warranty" of 7 yrs/100 K miles, but mostly I just plain liked the Sedona. Fun to have something new, too, though mostly I'm a practical-oriented car buyer. And power doors hold no appeal to me, either.
I was screaming, i'm going to leave it running, "but you are not next sir" they keep sayig.
i don't care how long it takes you to get to it, once i parked and turn it off and the tech restarts it, i figured it would start working properly and make a liar out of me.
Verdict; low refrigerant, removed all of it, check for leaks, refilled it.
The hesatation, pulling to the left, of course, they could not duplicate.
Got to come back and leave it all day.
Thats a hour drive for me to the dealership, but they were nice.
My thoughts exactly! As Kia continues to grow, so will their dealer base. I look forward to having Kia dealerships more conveniently located, for service reasons.
Is that a decent price.
I thought maybe someone knew a alternative where i could find a better deal.
My hood is starting to look like woody woodpecker lives here, from all the rocks that take target practice at paint on my hood.
Any info would be appreciated.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1826617754&r=0&t=0
Here's his response:
"The vehicle computer system is not equipped to handle two remote codes at one time which is why you are unable to get two remotes when you purchased your vehicle. The 2003 Model will
include two Keyless remotes.
Sorry if this has caused any inconveniences"
For all of you computer programmers out there, how difficult do you think it would be for Kia to reprogram our 2002 models to accept two remote codes.
Maybe someone on this board could figure it out and sub contract their services to Kia!
I want my cut though, or at least a free upgrade
Reading your post on floor mats really burns me since I did buy my loaded EX on Jan 30th and cannot get Kia to part with a mat. They are steadfast on FEB 1 or later.
Momonthego. I am going to do the keyfob remote start thing. I am going to do it because the 15ft keyless entry range is a joke.
$160 for the remote start etc...is a good deal.
I was quoted 5hrs at $60/hr at ABT in Morton Grove, IL plus $100 for the Audiovox remote.
I may do it myself???
But the cold answer is that manufacturers do this kind of mid-model-year change all the time. Usually it's on a bigger scale than a simple floor mat, so the changes are more obvious and not as subtle/minor. Subtle/minor can be more annoying, partly because you don't notice right away that you missed out on something that the other guy got.
I'm not trying to be mean about it; all I'm trying to do is get people to understand why it is done and that many manufacturers do it from time to time.
Also I remember someone posted regarding installing a hitch that was particularly easy to install, anyone have idea what number those posts were? Also does it install under the spare tire or is it behind it? Does it interfere with raising lowering spare?
The remote is simple to use, but I cannot lock while a door is open. In order to 'lock', I have to push the lock button only after all doors are closed. This is little inconvenient when traveling with baby.
As for the locking feature from the remote not being available when a door is open, I think this is fairly common. Our 98 Isuzu Trooper is the same way. I'm not sure WHY it's done, though.
I have 2001 Hyundai XG300, now it owns Kia, its keyless remote 'locks' even when door is open, as below. It is real convenient.
(1) Open back door.
(2) Press 'lock' button - locks all door at this time
(3) Pick up baby, or handfull of goods, and close the door.
(4) Then the door is (already) locked, and alarm is now set with blinking lights.
Hitches: just had a Hidden Hitch installed (Part No. 90995) Real clean installation, tucks up tight to bumper behind spare. No interference with spare. Funky-looking bracket to clear tailpipe. Appears to share some mounting points with the exhaust system, so you may have to support that while installing hitch.
It seems strange but, sadly, true.
Most folks here think the Sedona is a very good minivan. That's no surprise, because most of us own a Sedona!
Seriously, I think the van has many good points and not many bad ones. Powerful engine, 5-speed automatic transmission, lots of standard features, low price, great warranty, etc.
Some things you cannot get: TV/VCR/DVD player factory-installed and power sliding rear doors.
The Sedona is not the biggest minivan on the market. It has plenty of room for our family (me, wife, baby girl, and 75-pound dog), but if you have 4-5 people and need to carry a LOT of cargo, you may need something bigger such as the Honda Odyssey, Dodge Grand Caravan, or long versions of Olds Silhouette/Chevy Venture/Pontiac Montana. I don't know if those are all available in Canada; I'm in Michigan.
Most people seem pleased with the service from their local dealers, which is a big plus.
If you have more questions, just ask.
Unlocking the doors from inside the house while watching the kids and the spouse is unloading the car?
Using the horn alert for security reasons in a dark lot/garage.
Don't mean to waste space here but he asked.
***Bluedevil, I think that you must work for Kia. Don't get me wrong I really like my Sedona. I think it is funny how much time has been spent on the third row mat. As a matter of reality here is some perspective.
20K car....Manuf can't kick in the third row mat?
The car was released in August, how many and how much could it possibly cost Kia to send out a mat to those who request it, retro the initial vehicle deployment. That is in the history of the Sedona, five months of users. Kia and or the special Mr. Stapleton is fedex overnighting a mat to those that request. Do you know that shipping is possibly more costly then the mat itself. Therefore, fedex ground the mats and belly up and ship mats to the rest.
This is hysterical, that there is more talk about a mat or a fob and not the reality of the headrests that obstruct the drivers view. I am sure that the headrest issue will resurface...
Are there any Canadian Kia owners on this board that have the Sedona running boards. Any one know of where or how to get these in the states?
MC126***these would be used to more easily get in and out of the vehicle.
NewVan2-Maybe I should get me some of them there running boards. I am kinda short 5'7 1/2". Seriously I wasn't trying to be funny. I just didn't/don't see the big deal regarding how far it reaches. However, I concede that it would be more convenient. I guess I don't notice the inconvenience because my wife has the fob.
As for inconvenience, my wife constantly complains when we travel together that the door/window lock from driver's side also controls passenger side and/or that passenger side does not have its own controls to lock/unlock doors. I agree, but she has yet to take me up on my suggestion to email her complaint to KIA.
Thank you to everyone that posts on here. You gave me such valuable information and I have learned so much about my new Sedona from you.
Oh....they gave me 2 key remotes. He said they usually don't do that and he was not sure why they handed me 2, but I wasn't complaining after seeing how hard they are to get from the posts on here. I also got the 3rd row mat, but I think that is standard now.
Yes, it would make sense for Kia to just give the mat to all existing owners who don't already have one. It wouldn't cost that much and it would be a good, although very minor, PR move.
I will stop talking about the 3rd row mat as soon as people stop complaining about not getting one, or about how silly it is that some people aren't getting one. As long as people keep bringing up this issue, I will keep posting and re-posting my views on it.
Your theory seems logical to me.
I presume you've verified correct and consistent tire pressure on all 4 tires and you see no visible defects on any of the wheels?
After test driving the Caravan, MPV, Venture, I didn`t like the blend style of the Sienna, I bought a Sedona 2 weeks ago, knowing it is a gas guzzler as I drive around 11K Kms a year; I need a mini van that can tow a tent trailer without having to stop every hour to cool down the trannie like the DC`s minivans.
My wife didn`t wanted another Caravan and there is 2 others friends of her who had a Caravan and just recently bought something else. I don`t say the Caravan is a bad mini van; I think the Sedona just give me more for my money. When I said to the DC`salesman that I was going to buy the Sedona, he told me ``those Kias are just piece of crap that where falling apart after 2K miles``.
Beside the high fuel consumption and a slight hesitation once in a while at a start, I have nothing to complaint and I think Kia has put together a good vehicle that will served me well for the next 5 years.
BTW, the cruise now come as a standard feature on the LX here in Canada.
My dealer has installed running boards on his shuttle bus, they don`t look nice, it looks more SUV style with just a round piece of pipe; I don`t known if they are Kia`s running boards or just something that`s been adapted for the Sedona.
The dealers will remember to shine the exterior of your vehicle, but they often forget the important things such as setting the correct tire pressure.
Our Sedona was delivered with about 45psi in all 4 tires. That's way too much.
I got my Hidden Hitch from e-trailer for $109, and installed it in about an hour. It wasn't hard at all, though some knuckle skinning was involved. And I'm not particularly Joe Gearhead.
The lock button on my passenger side door unlocks and locks all of the doors. When did you buy yours? If you look at earlier posts, we noticed that vans purchased earlier seemed not to have this feature.
Let us know if the passenger door lock inside lever does not toggle all of the locks. It should also do so from the exterior with a key.
I had this fixed this past Monday during a routine service. I was still at the Dealer's service center for only 90 minutes.
I just finished another 2500 mile trip to Fla. and have no complaints in 11000 miles. except for a slight shudder when the transmission shifts from 3th to 4th gear. The tech at the dealer put the analyzer on the van and drove it but nothing showed up , but loged it in his computer so that in the future if it gets worse its been noted.
I saw a mat at Advance Auto Parts yesterday for $19.95 that would fit the third row seats in both tan and gray colors.
Also, my rear cargo light won't operate in the 2nd (middle) position, when the hatch is opened. It works in the 3rd position (on all the time), though, and it turns off (1st position). I guess it will be one of the few things I'll have Kia service look at when I take it in for it's first free oil change at 3000 miles.
I had the Draw-Tite class III round tube receiver hitch installed on the van about a month ago from a local installer. I thought a long time about installing it myself, but with this hitch, two holes must be drilled into the frame. I went with the Class III because I wanted the 2" receiver so we could share accessories with our other vehicle. It looks pretty good, but it does hang down lower than I had expected. It comes real close to the exhaust pipe but I haven't seen any problems with it. I saw it also from etrailer.com for $120.