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Our '98 Isuzu Trooper, which is 4 years old and little changed from the 1992 Trooper design, has a second cruise lights. One light says "Cruise On" and the other says "Cruise set".
It's nice to be able to look at the dash and see whether the cruise is actually engaged or just 'on.'
My understanding: this is common on many vehicles, and some owners manuals even explain that the vehicle will lose the memory of the cruise speed if the vehicle speed dips below a certain speed.
If you slow down to 30mph or less, sometimes a car will lose your 73mph cruise speed and you'll have to redo it.
I haven't checked the Sedona owners manual, so I don't know if they address this. I have seen it in several other vehicle owners manuals, though.
My experience with cruise is that it should retain your preset speed in it's memory until you switch the ignition off, that is even if you drop below 25 MPH or whatever the minimum cruise speed is.
It's also interesting that quite a lot of Odyssey folks would prefer their van did not have a light telling them that cruise is active, they find the light distracting at night. The grass is always greener on the other side.
This contradicts what others have reported, and I'm not disputing their findings. Is it possible that this works differently on some Sedonas than others?
I had the exact same thing happen when I just went to double check. What I had forgotten to do was turn the fan switch to something other than 0 (or Off, depending on how you interpret 0 on the dial.) If the AC light does not illuminate when you press it, either the front fan speed is set to 0, or something is wrong.
In my testing just now (with the fan on), turning the dial to any defrost setting engaged the AC - the light came on automatically. I could then toggle the AC on or off as desired. If I moved the control to an other-than-defrost setting, the AC would turn off automatically as well. I should add that my 97 Cavalier works similarly, but there is no AC override when in full defrost mode as there is on the Sedona.
On cruise, my recollection (which could be wrong) is that cancel is cancel and the speed is discarded. Try pressing the brake pedal to drop out of cruise - the speed setting will be remembered unless, as has been pointed out, the vehicle speed decreases below the minimum speed. On this last point I am not 100% certain, but does seem to explain to me why the resume button did not re-engage the system on a couple of occasions, but that was a couple months ago now also.
Page 4-20 in the manual, "It will not resume, however, If the vehicle's speed has dropped below 25 MPH."
1) Turn front fan speed to 0 position.
2) Turn mode selection knob to the defrost position.
3) While holding the A/C button depressed, push the air intake at least six times within three seconds.
The air intake indicator light will then blink three times. If you want to return to the automatic A/C system and outside air mode, repeat the procedure.
Hop this helps.
What I think the manual is saying is you can change the default A/C setting (choices are 'on' or 'off') that occurs when the fan is set to Defrost. That would be quite an unusual capability. The simple fact that Kia lets you turn the A/C on or off manually is better than many vehicles, in which the A/C runs when fan is on Defrost and there's nothing you can do about it.
I think I'm curious enough to pull out the owners manual and try to figure out what it means.
1) Turn front fan speed to 0 position.
2) Turn mode selection knob to the defrost position.
3) While holding the A/C button depressed, push the air intake at least six times within three seconds.
The air intake indicator light will then blink three times. If you want to return to the automatic A/C system and outside air mode, repeat the procedure.
Hop this helps.
Depress the brake pedal cause the speed drops below 25 mph, it cancels the cruise control without erasing the preset speed, if resume button is pushed and speed is above 25 mph, back to the preset cruise control speed. I'll try it tomorrow.
Lagavulin: It might have intermittent contacting problems: Suspected area: 1, the switches (set/resume) or ground on the steering wheel to 2. slip ring connection to steering wheel to 3. the wiring harness to the Cruise control ECU etc.
Disclaimer:
I don't own a Kia repair manual, but I own Toyota Previa repair manual which has a very good schematic.
I did notice that there was more resonance from the suspension coming through to the interior than expected, when driving over slight bumps in the road or railroad tracks. No biggie, though.
The only niggling quality detail I have seen on many Sedonas is a gas cap door that appears to be misaligned. No biggie with this either, but it sticks out like a sore thumb on some Sedonas I've seen.
Now...which color to get. We debated for what seemed like hours yesterday, and narrowed it down to black/platinum and blue sapphire/platinum. I also like the silver, and solid sapphire.
Hopefully we'll be getting one in the next 2 weeks. Can't wait!
Chris
Depress the brake pedal causes the speed drops below 25 mph, it cancels the cruise control without erasing the preset speed, if resume button is pushed and speed is above 25 mph, back to the preset cruise control speed.
I went a glass shop a few weeks ago to check if a rock chip could be repaired and was told it couldn't because it was a double star with a crack between. I ask the price of a new windshild and was quoted $400.00 installed. Was then told the windshild had to come from a dealer because the vehcile is so new that the windshilds haven't been released to glass shops yet from the manufacture. Think I'll get a second opinion on a repair. Either way Insurance co. says they will pay for it.
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... Greg
Enough of that.
But, who is going to knock the added benefits. Our sedona is spoilerless, and my rear glass is murky in 24 hrs. finish next post
over 14 yrs, and never had rear widows get as dirty as our beloved sedona. So the question is to sedona owners with spoilers, how well are they working, and spoilerless owners, have you noticed any of what im refering to. And where is it attached, since i have only seen one on the brochure.
Even if it did keep dirt of the rear window, I still wouldn't want it.
plastic mounting screws that attach it to the metal.
I have a spoiler and I love it, that was the last option I had to have specially painted to match.
Although I love my Sedona, especially for towing...and that's the primary reason I bought it...I will be waiting for the new Toyota mini-van to make its debut in a year or two. I am not happy with the leather seats in the Sedona, they just are not as comfortable and adjustable as I would like. The Toyota Previa has a much longer seat base for greater leg support, and extends farther back for more leg room. Yes I still drive my Previa too.....:o)
I suppose that it's also possible that the "soft bits" of the front end really are that fragile which might validate the recent low speed crash tests performed by the IIHS. In any case the bumpers are supposed to protect the rest of the vehicle's structure and it sounds like it did it's job.
At least the damage was confined to property, no people hurt, and it's the sort of repair which is relatively easy to get perfect.
The ball actually bounced out. It hit just to the right of the left foglight. This so called "bumper" is really a superficial, aesthetic shroud and nothing more. The frame, which takes the impact is right behind it. I hope I did not come off to harsh in my last post, the Kia Sedona is an incredibly solid vehicle from the standpoint of having a very weel designed infastructure (frame) There is absolutely no flexing in this vehicle while towing heavy loads, thats what I do, I that's why I own it. This puppy is unmatched in that category. If I only had my Previa seats......:o) !
I would like to thank all the "regulars" for their useful insight and shared experiences. I read this board a lot before deciding on making the purchase. I had planned on buying an Ody, but after hearing of the 5-star crash test ratings looked into the Sedona and ran across this message board. Like others, I couldn't pass up the "deal". I told my wife that we are taking a gamble with a semi-unknown product(I heard of the carnival, but's it's still not the same van), but after weighing the options it was a gamble we were willing to take. So far, we love it. We plan to take it on a lot of trips this summer.
Two questions for those with the knowledge:
1. How many of the 12-volt outlets can I use at a time without taxing them?
2. Power invertors? I believe that's what they are called. The device that allows me to plug 110 volt items in is what I'm wanting to refer to. What effect do they have? Does the van have to be running to use them?
Thanks for all the great info.
1. The Owner manual page 4-38 indicates that all the devices should draw less than 10A at 12V when the engine is running. The point is what is your total power consumption that matters, not how many 12-Volt outlets can you use at a time.
2. DC-AC converter: Don't know what is the specification of your DC-AC converter? When you do the power conversion, there is a efficiency factor involved, 60%-65% efficiency rate is very common consumer DC-AC converter design, for Sedona, it can support 120 Watt total power before the converter, after the converter at the AC 110V power outlet, it is (60% efficiency) 72 watt. For example: an AC 110V power 13 inch Panasonic TV/VCR combo is rate at 69 watt. You can use 1 device with DC-AC converter with the ENGINE is RUNNING.
Please read the "Caution" note in page 4-38.
Thank you for your correspondence. Sorry to inform you but Kia Motors America is only shipping the 3rd row amt to customers who purchased their vehicles after February 1, 2002. Per our system your vehicle was purchased on 1/29/02. Please contact your selling dealership to purchase the mat.
Thank you
Kia Motors America
****On another note, I want to get the running boards for my EX. I noticed they have them in Canada. Does anyone have these, or have any idea how I can purchase them?
****I am going to put an aftermarket keyless entry and remote starter, the factory 15 ft distance on the keyless is a joke. Does anyone have ideas or experience with these aftermarket starters.
*****I saw my first Sedona (from a distance) on April, 12. in Chicago. I have been looking since Janusry 29. I remind you that is 2 days before the 3rd row mat cutoff....
sisu145***from reading your posts I think that you too are in chicago...maybe you are the other Sedona on the road.
Question regarding the A/C**why does running the rear air have such a positive cooling effect on the cooling system?
****Re: bug deflectors and sunroof wind deflectors, be careful of the high speed car washes and soft cloth ones, they can spray and break of pull off the deflectors.
I'd say the A/C performance of the van seems to be better than the heating performance, at least in the case of our particular Sedona.
Could there be any correlation between the slow-to-heat-up heater and the ice-cold A/C? I know someone mentioned that a dealer or Kia USA told them the water/antifreeze mix was not 50/50 as one would expect. I don't remember if it was more water or more antifreeze, but the theory was that this could explain the heater being slow to warm up.
No pun to you bluedevil, 80 degrees is a walk in the park.
Btw, what color is your van, it makes a difference how hard your a/c has to work.
Vanpan, check out my post, #1539, i noticed
the same problem, if i don't turn the rear air on
the front air temp is cool not cold.
Hows you cooling/.
Now, i don't want to hear from you, if the tempature in your area isn't above, lets say 89,
just kidding around.
All feedback is valuable, even if someone else doesn't think so.
I agree that the true test of A/C is well past 80-something degrees, but I believe that good info can be gathered from experience in the 80s. The van kept me chilly cool with the fan speed on the lowest setting and the rear HVAC unit off.
I've put 93 in a couple times. Like with my other cars, it seem to run a little smoother.
This is one issue I'd sure like to have a better handle on. I've heard so darn many opinions, I don't know what to think:
-Waste of money
-Good for the car
-Bad for the car
-Burns hotter
-Burns cooler
-Leaves more (less) deposits
etc, etc.
One thing I can tell you is that I got better mileage, but only around town and not on the highway, when I put 93 octane into my Lemonostar. Enough to make up the cost difference, actually. Decided not to run it routinely in the Sedona, though. I think the owner's manual says "not recommended".
Our EX has two-tone paint, Homelink and a sunroof as the only options (not the leather and ABS I mentioned in a post long ago -- that one never materialized). Once the van was located, the entire deal went smoothly from start to finish, and we were very pleased with the dealership (Dick Witham Kia in Waterloo, IA).
Of course, I stupidly forgot to check for the third row mat before leaving the dealership. Thanks to you wonderful people, I have already contacted Paul Stapleton and our mat should be here next week.
So far we absolutely love the van. I've noticed my husband making up errands to run just so he can drive it somewhere. The black two-tone looks fabulous (worth any extra effort to keep clean).
On our 100 mile trip home from the dealer in about 87 degree Iowa heat (humid) the air conditioning performed very nicely. I was actually a little chilly with the fan speed set on 2. I'll report back when we get some more warm weather (temps dropped 30 degrees from yesterday to today).
I'd just like to thank all of you for the wealth of information your posts have provided. Your opinions and experiences helped us decide that the Sedona is the van for us.
Happy driving!!!!!!!
He has built a dozen cars virtually from the ground up - fabricating his own frames - putting pieces of different types of cars into one to make a hot rod - etc.
Car Show types of Hot Rods, where he has won a few 1st place prizes. He can take an engine entirely apart and put it back together again. Gets the engine "blue-printed" when he wants, etc. etc. You get the idea.
Well, in ALL of his cars, including his every day vehicles, he ALWAYS uses premium gasoline. He says that you will not only get increased gas mileage (maybe not enough to make up the cost difference for each tank), but will make up the cost in longer engine life, etc. Your engine just burns cleaner and stays cleaner with respect to carbon deposits, etc.
So, there's my thoughts on the matter. Your mileage may vary! (pun intended, even if very corny!)
... Greg :-)
This was our first vehicle with leather, didn't know how cold the seats were going to be, imagine my shock, when 20 degree leather hit my butt and back. (Now i know why heated seats are available on leather in most other models.) I sure was hoping for a fast warm up, holding myself up out of the seat, and running late that morning, with no time to wait for a warm up. To my surprise, 3 minutes from starting and traveling down the road, i had heat, another 3 it was almost maxed out, i could sit down with comfort.
This van leaves nothing to be desired for warmth.
Actually the rear heat worked better than the front, exceeding our needs. In the carolinas, we have shorter, milder winters.
So lets trade.
I need the a/c worse. It's white with platium bottom. Btw, where did you come up with bluedevil, are you a duke fan, i thought you were from around here initially.
With all due respect to his experience, all cars that are sold today are fuel injected and computer controlled for maximum efficency, with precise cc's of fuel injected, a oxygen sensors (some have 2) to sniff the fuel mixture and burn quailty, and the ability to compensate for high altitude ( air is thinner) and extreme cold in areas like minnesota or canada and extreme heat.
The automotive engineers allow for these variables in octanes and blends in the programing of the cpu.
So i beg to differ with you on this one, but if it runs better, go with it, especially if it helps with gas mileage, my gas mileage is nothing to rave about.
But their is no real need to put premium in as a rule, unless its a personal preference, or there is lousy gas in your region.
In a fairness, i use regular, 87 octane.