2014 Cadillac CTS Lease Questions

avery323

@Michaell@Edmunds said:
1.56% MF and 55% residual. $1200 lease cash.

I'm confused. I know there's $1500 conquest cash. Is there an additional $1200 if I lease instead of purchase?

Michaell

@avery323 said:
I'm confused. I know there's $1500 conquest cash. Is there an additional $1200 if I lease instead of purchase?

Separate items, but not 100% certain if the conquest cash can be applied to a lease.

v8vroom

I'm looking to lease (36mo/15k miles/yr) a 2014 CTS AWD 3.6 Luxury w/ 18" wheels, Magnetic Ride, sunroof and navigation. I was offered $1625 in rebates (does not include conquest cash even though I'm trading a 2009 Audi). Please let me know current MF and residual and if the conquest cash applies to leases. The dealer discounted to invoice $56,817, rent charge factor of .00129, residual 54%. Tax/title/doc totals $3531. Payment quoted was $406.31. This looks like a bad deal to me. Please recommend where I can negotiate. They are offering $15k for trade in of the Audi. Thanks!

kyfdx

@v8vroom said:
I'm looking to lease (36mo/15k miles/yr) a 2014 CTS AWD 3.6 Luxury w/ 18" wheels, Magnetic Ride, sunroof and navigation. I was offered $1625 in rebates (does not include conquest cash even though I'm trading a 2009 Audi). Please let me know current MF and residual and if the conquest cash applies to leases. The dealer discounted to invoice $56,817, rent charge factor of .00129, residual 54%. Tax/title/doc totals $3531. Payment quoted was $406.31. This looks like a bad deal to me. Please recommend where I can negotiate. They are offering $15k for trade in of the Audi. Thanks!

The banks that Cadillac uses all use APRs for their money factors.

I'm showing 1.85% APR and 54% residual, plus the $1625 lease cash. 1.85% APR would definitely be lower than .00129 MF.

I don't have the answer to your Conquest Cash question. Is your trade-in paid off? Are they taking the full $15K as an upfront payment? If so, then this is a very bad deal. What is the MSRP of the CTS?

v8vroom

@kyfdx@Edmunds said:The banks that Cadillac uses all use APRs for their money factors.

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I'm showing 1.85% APR and 54% residual, plus the $1625 lease cash. 1.85% APR would >definitely be lower than .00129 MF.

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I don't have the answer to your Conquest Cash question. Is your trade-in paid off? Are they >taking the full $15K as an upfront payment? If so, then this is a very bad deal. What is the >MSRP of the CTS?

The Audi is paid off and they are taking the full $15k as an upfront payment. The MSRP is $60,300. Please confirm that the I should be shooting to lower the .00129 to .000771. Thanks again!

kyfdx

Yes.. you should be getting a lower money factor. Also, I would never put $15K on a lease... but, besides that, divide that $15K by 36 months, and your effective monthly payment for the CTS is over $800/mo.

If I couldn't get a better deal than that, I'd shop for a different car.

v8vroom

@kyfdx@Edmunds said:
Yes.. you should be getting a lower money factor. Also, I would never put $15K on a lease... but, besides that, divide that $15K by 36 months, and your effective monthly payment for the CTS is over $800/mo.

If I couldn't get a better deal than that, I'd shop for a different car.

If the dealership doesnt negotiate down, then you're right, it's not worth it. If they do however match the 1.85% MF, then it's on par with other luxury cars with an MSRP of $60k. Can you tell me the MF and residual for a CTS 2.0T AWD Luxury? Maybe Cadillac is giving more incentives for that model.

kyfdx

Same numbers for that model..

shelly40

Looking at CTS Vsport in white with brown interior
need current money factor, and residual for 39 months 15k/year
MSRP is 72825

kyfdx

@shelly40 said:
Looking at CTS Vsport in white with brown interior
need current money factor, and residual for 39 months 15k/year
MSRP is 72825

1.85% APR and 52% residual. $1625 lease cash

shelly40

Thanks for the info.... That is exactly what the dealer told me....
Can the Military discount, and USAA money be used in conjunction with a lease ?

Michaell

@shelly40 said:
Thanks for the info.... That is exactly what the dealer told me....
Can the Military discount, and USAA money be used in conjunction with a lease ?

I don't see why not.

asudevilboy80

I'm new to Leasing so have been reading up on all the forums, I've started getting quotes from dealers in my area (Chandler, AZ) but they seem to be not so good deals...

I sent several dealers in my area an email (as described in several of the forums here) requesting bids, but I've been having a heck of a time getting them to give me offer. They all say "bring me your best offer from another dealership and I'll beat it by $500"

I got the "beat it by $500" from 6 dealers so far, must be a magic number!

So far I've only gotten one of them to give me written offer (one other is coming tomorrow), here is the first (I attached the full bid).

• 2014 CTS 3.6 Premium RWD
• 27 Months

• 12,000 miles/year

• M.S.R.P: $67,075

• Invoice: $63,844
• Rebate: $2,375 (USAA = $750; "Rebate"=$1,625)
• Adj Cap Cost: $62,064
• Initial Fees: $2,664 (Due at start)
• Residual: 61%
• APR: 3.45%
• Payment w/ tax: $1,007/month

When I did the TrueCar Value on USAA Website the car was $60,639.
APR seems really high, I have a 710 credit score, but i did not have them run it, nor did they ask me.

• What items am I able to negotiate? Residual? APR?
• What are some tricks to get the pricing down?
• I currently own a 2007 Escalade (that I plan on keeping), it was not a Lease. Would this qualify me for any GM Incentive?

Any help on this would be fantastic!

kyfdx

Without getting into all the details, the biggest issue with the price is the lease term. The 27 month term is just not very good. You can save a lot by going with 36 months, where the rate drops to 1.85% APR and the residual only drops by 4%.

I can't really comment on the selling price, as I'm not in the market. But, the last time I shopped a Cadillac was in 2011, and I remember a CTS going for about $50K!! Holy Cow, has that price shot up!

zefside

kyfdx - Do you have the June numbers for the CTS Vsport base. 36 month. 12k/year. TIA.

kyfdx

@zefside said:
kyfdx - Do you have the June numbers for the CTS Vsport base. 36 month. 12k/year. TIA.

1.08% APR and 58% residual.

cakester1

Hi kyfdx, do you have the numbers for the CTS sedan 2.0 base and luxury AWD? Both for 36 months 10k/year.

Michaell

@cakester1 said:
Hi kyfdx, do you have the numbers for the CTS sedan 2.0 base and luxury AWD? Both for 36 months 10k/year.

Base - 1.08% and 56%

Luxury - .72% and 59%

cakester1

Thanks for the quick response!

ashu9900

Hi kyfdx, do you have the numbers for the 2014 CTS Sedan 2.0L Turbo RWD Performance?
36 months 10k/year and 36 months 12k/year

Michaell

@ashu9900 said:
Hi kyfdx, do you have the numbers for the 2014 CTS Sedan 2.0L Turbo RWD Performance?
36 months 10k/year and 36 months 12k/year

36/12 - 1.30% or 1.24%, depending on option package. 59% for 36/12; add 1% for 10k

thejman2oo8

Could I have the residual, money factor, and lease cash for the 2014 CTS sedan 3.6L AWD Luxury for 24, 36, and 39 months with 10k and 12k. Also, are the numbers different for the 2.0T?

Thank you

Michaell

@thejman2oo8 said:
Could I have the residual, money factor, and lease cash for the 2014 CTS sedan 3.6L AWD Luxury for 24, 36, and 39 months with 10k and 12k. Also, are the numbers different for the 2.0T?

Thank you

No difference based on engine, only equipment packages.

24/12 - 3.4% or 3.7% MF; residual of 63% or 65%

36/12 - .72% or 1.08% MF; residual of 58% or 55%

39/12 - same MF as 36 mo; residual of 56% or 53%

Add 1% to above for 10k per year

cakester1

Hi kyfdx / Michaell do you happen to have the July numbers for the CTS sedan 2.0 luxury AWD? 36 months 10k/year.

Also is there any lease cash for this month?

Thanks in advance!

kyfdx

We don't have the July numbers, at this time.. hopefully, within the next few days.

cakester1

Hi kyfdx, Hope you had a great 4th of July!

Have you received the numbers for July yet? Can you possibly include 39 months as well?

Thanks in advance.

Michaell

@cakester1 said:
Hi kyfdx, Hope you had a great 4th of July!

Have you received the numbers for July yet? Can you possibly include 39 months as well?

Thanks in advance.

Not just yet .. let's let the West Coast wake up and see if they've got anything for us later today.

neversatisfied

How about the V Sport, 36 month and 15k miles Residuals and MF?

Please and thanks

kyfdx

@neversatisfied said:
How about the V Sport, 36 month and 15k miles Residuals and MF?

Please and thanks

1.20% APR and 55% residual. $1200 lease cash.

xerxes480

Hi kyfdx,

Looking for Residual, MF and lease cash for V Sport Premium sedan, 36 month, and 12k miles/year.

Thanks!

Michaell

@xerxes480 said:
Hi kyfdx,

Looking for Residual, MF and lease cash for V Sport Premium sedan, 36 month, and 12k miles/year.

Thanks!

1.2% and either 54% or 57% residual, depending on option packages. $1200 or $1400 lease cash.

xerxes480

Thanks!

cakester1

Hi kyfdx / Michaell, do you have the numbers for the CTS sedan 2.0 luxury AWD? 36 and 39 months 10k/year.

Thanks in advance!

Michaell

@cakester1 said:
Hi kyfdx / Michaell, do you have the numbers for the CTS sedan 2.0 luxury AWD? 36 and 39 months 10k/year.

Thanks in advance!

36/10 - 1.2% and either 58% or 55% residual. $1200 or $1400 lease cash.

39/10 - 1.2% and either 56% or 53% residual. Same lease cash options.

thejman2oo8

I am still in the market for a 2014 CTS sedan 3.6L luxury collection AWD for 36 and 39 months with 10k. Looking at the last post above, what determines the residual and lease cash?

kyfdx

@thejman2oo8 said:
I am still in the market for a 2014 CTS sedan 3.6L luxury collection AWD for 36 and 39 months with 10k. Looking at the last post above, what determines the residual and lease cash?

The bank and the manufacturer determine those numbers... we just report them. The numbers are the same for your model.

thejman2oo8

@kyfdx said:
I am sorry, after reading my post again I should have been more specific. I meant what determines if the residual is 58% or 55% on a 36 month lease and lease cash of $1,200 or $1,400 on the same trim level?

Michaell

@thejman2oo8 said:

It's based on the option packages (1SD, etc.). I'm sure that translates into a trim level (Premium, Sport, etc), but we don't have that information.

thejman2oo8

@Michaell said:
It's based on the option packages (1SD, etc.). I'm sure that translates into a trim level (Premium, Sport, etc), but we don't have that information.

Thanks for clarifying that. The 3.6L V6 AWD Luxury is considered 1SP, could you tell me the money factor, residual, and lease cash for that model. Thanks for your help.

kyfdx

@thejman2oo8 said:
Thanks for clarifying that. The 3.6L V6 AWD Luxury is considered 1SP, could you tell me the money factor, residual, and lease cash for that model. Thanks for your help.

1.20% APR and 55% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr. $1200 lease cash.

thebug2

I would guess that a lease is a bad idea if you drive a lot of miles per year

kyfdx

@thebug2 said:
I would guess that a lease is a bad idea if you drive a lot of miles per year

Generally, I would say yes.. unless you can use it as a business deduction.

drbump471

2014 CTS Wagon Performance AWD
Residual and Money Factor
36 month / 10k or 12k
Thanks in advance!

kyfdx

@drbump471 said:
2014 CTS Wagon Performance AWD
Residual and Money Factor
36 month / 10k or 12k
Thanks in advance!

1.00% APR and 54%/53% residual. $2300 lease cash.

leaserookie1

Can I get the MF and Residual for a CTS Sedan Standard AWD for 24 and 36 months with 15k miles

Michaell

@leaserookie1 said:
Can I get the MF and Residual for a CTS Sedan Standard AWD for 24 and 36 months with 15k miles .

24/15 - 1.16% MF and either 59% or 61% RV. $1200 or $1400 lease cash.

36/15 - 1.20% MF and 52% or 55% RV. $1200 or $1400 lease cash.

dkeats99

What is the MF and residual for 39mo 15k 2014 CTS Luxury 2.0T? I was quoted 53% and 2.4%. The MF sounds high compared to others I've just read.

dkeats99

I just read above- please state again the residual for 36m 15k? is it 55%?

kyfdx

@dkeats99 said:
What is the MF and residual for 39mo 15k 2014 CTS Luxury 2.0T? I was quoted 53% and 2.4%. The MF sounds high compared to others I've just read.

We only have Ally Bank lease numbers for Cadillac.

1.20% APR and residual of 53% or 50% depending on trim level/packages. Either $1200 or $1400 lease cash (again, dependent on trim/packages).

S52MC

Could you provide the August lease figures for both the CTS Vsport and Vsport Premium? Looking for 36 months / 12k miles. Thanks.