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Help me gorget
politics by giving me some advice.
As you know, I am hot to trot for the new Mustang coming soon. Based on the current options available for 2014 and considering that my budget limit is about $35k can you suggest what options should I look towards putting on my new 2015 GT?
So far I am thinking of the base model with auto and the Brembo brake package. I am techno- phobic so Nav, Bluetooth, backup cameras etc. hold no interest for me. Power and handling are my fantasy.
What else should I consider?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
@abacomike - and I got to invent a new word. Bonus!
And you've been very good. Really, everyone has, and I'm sure there was no ill intent by anyone.
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2015 Kia Soul, 2021 Subaru Forester (kirstie_h), 2024 GMC Sierra 1500 (mr. kirstie_h)
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I tried to tell you that. I went into the dealership thinking I would buy a 528 but it underwhelmed me by a lot. Don't even consider it...it is just a big barge with handling like a Camry. No fun...no life. Sis knows her cars, she impressed me that she could see a difference. Having said that, I still wonder why she doesn't try a 335 unless she drives big distances or carries lots of kids.
If she goes 5 Series a 535 with an M package is the only way to go.
btw...I agree with Laura'sDad, the previous edition of the Acura was a much nicer looking car. If the new one performs well enough for sis and is within budget, go for it. Last time I sat in an Acura was when I took my 535 to an Acura dealer to have the bug shield put on. Personally, I really liked the fit and finish as well as the interior design of the BMW over the Acura, but that was in 2012.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Really, really good snow tires!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
"And you've been very good. Really, everyone has, and I'm sure there was no ill intent by anyone."
Yes I have, Kirstie. But when I'm bad, I can be very, very bad!!!
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
"What else should I consider?"
A good insurance policy? All kidding aside, definitely need a great set of wheels a super performance tires.
You don't need snow tires because a car like that is put in the barn when mother snow dusts the earth around you. I never drove my Corvette in snow - never ever. I just didn't use it when Mother Nature was being nasty!
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Farmer, move to Florida, and save on the snow tires!
FYI, you can spec out the 2015 right now here on Edmunds. I just did, and the base car, AT is $34,210. They still have the performance package, including the Brembos, but not available with the AT. about the only performance option is the expensive Recaro seats, and a 3.55 axle, if you don't want to row your own gears.
That is the V8 GT. I assume the 4 cyl is even higher? But dang, these babies are pricey. Do you like the 2014 enough to save a boatload on a leftover?.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Bite your tounge!
no Mustang of mine will ever see snow.
Stick: thanks for that info. I'll check it out. Talk to my wife about Florida, please.
From what I understand, the 4cyl. Turbo is priced in the middle under the GT.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
That's just what you need -- a fun performance car on dead-straight roads inhabited by industrial-grade senile people.
Upstate New York gets my vote.
@oldfarmer When I built a Mustang GT online, the performance package is only available on manual transmission models.
Just checked out the 2015 Mustang on this site. Configured it as base GT, auto with no other option than special paint ($495). TMV was MSRP---$34615. No discounts this early in which is to be expected.
A little disappointed that the Brembos weren't a stand alone like on the 2014. The performance package seems more for a track car and I can't imagine 3:73 gears being kind to gas milage(must be a screamer though). The 2014GT with the regular rear end gets 26 highway same rating as my 6 cyl. Eclipse.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Get a set of true winter tires and you will get around just fine.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Well he is regarded as one of the best when it comes to card magic.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Two words "International Scout".
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
First of all there is some pent up demand for new cars, secondly the population is larger.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Not me, I say we have to get to the bottom of this "XYZ affair" and find out what President Adams knew and when did he know it?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
"Worst president ever but car production will surpass 16 million this year. Who the heck is buying all those cars. Must be you rich old guys because young people are broke these days."
You can build and sell 16 million cars, but do you reserve the right to recall every last one? I think Toyota, Ford, Honda, etc., would agree that they have that right to recall them and will probably recall every last one in order to keep up the pace with GM. They can't afford to have the competition "out-recall" them!!!
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to be fair to GM, they didn't really recall say 8million cars. they recalled 2 million, 4 times each!
yes, I made up those #s because I could do the math in my head.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
For 2014 you can get the Brembos without the rest of the track package. I like the idea of better brakes but they also tweak the stability control for(I assume) more fun handling. I don't think I'd need the full track package since...well, since I'm not that insane.
Brembo Brake Package 2014
Front 14.0" Brembo vented rotors with Brembo 4-piston calipers; Unique electronic stability control (ESC) tuning; 19" x 9.0" dark stainless painted aluminum wheels with P255/40R19Z 96W summer tires; Tire mobility kit (replaces mini spare tire)
$1,513$1,695GT
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
What about Teapot Dome?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
"to be fair to GM, they didn't really recall say 8million cars. they recalled 2 million, 4 times each! Yes, I made up those #s because I could do the math in my head."
Stick, your superhuman skills and feats in mathematics regarding recalls are mind-boggling. An amazing show of higher level thinking skills with a bit of smoke and mirrors to keep things on the light side.
My hat's off to you!
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There are a few Buick vehicle owners here who said their GM cars have not been recalled. On NBC Nightly News they said every GM model has now been recalled except for the Terrain, Equinox and Volt. I know NBC is supposed to lean to the left (according to some people) but is that story true?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The LaCrosse has been recalled but not my 2012 in the latest fiasco.
GM has discovered the best marketing gimmick since Kia/Hyundai's ten year warranty. (businessinsider.com)
My 2011 Regal has not been recalled (knock wood).
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
My 2011 Buick LaCrosse CXS has not been recalled (yet?) I entered my VIN and it says that although my particular car is not listed there might be a lag in updating their data base.
I've gotten several notices that I have to bring my wife's PT Cruiser in for an inspection to maintain the lifetime power train warranty. Does that count as a recall?
On the Mustang issue, I went to the Ford site and built one just like on Edmunds only with more option choices. One disappointment is that the 2015 only seems to come with black interior. The 2014 offers a lighter interior as well.
What's the big attraction with black interiors?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
First of all there is some pent up demand for new cars, secondly the population is larger.
Perhaps, but the 16 million production is far short of the 17.2 millions vehicle produced in 2002.
As to politics, I was trying to make a broader point that this century belongs to China. In 2013 China produced and sold 18.7 million vehicles and GM's share is significant.
" As to politics, I was trying to make a broader point that this century belongs to China."
If you had left out your comment about "the worst President ever", your broader point about China would have been comprehendable. I think the inclusion of the "worst president ever" politicized the whole post. I think that is what Kirstie and OF were referring to.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Point well taken, but the "worst president" comment was not mine. I was simply repeating a headline news story referencing the Quinnipiac poll.
By the way, an update to the China sales figures.
"In 2013, sales in China rose 13.9 percent to 21.98 million vehicles, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM)."
And on June 19 Ford opened 88 new dealerships in China in one day. Yes, 88 dealerships on the same day.
And mist if those cars are now stuck in a traffic jam!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
LD...Driver....I owned a 3rd gen Acura TL and two 4 gen TLs. I know the original 4 gen had polarizing style. The current one is much more "Acural-like". I recall when I was invited to the unveiling of the (then) new 4th gen TL, I thought it was a bold styling move, but one that I liked. I was way in the minority.
However, the biggest difference was the way it drove, which was worlds better than the previous gen TL. Even today, after 3-4 model years of refinements, I'd put it up against AWD lux sedans and dare anyone to find anything significantly better in its segment within $5K, maybe even $10K of its price. I've tried.
This isn't a slight to Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc lovers. Just my personal opinion.
Of course, if I buy something else, that opinion may change....
It's just that every time I'm in need of a good car, for a variety of reasons, the TL has always been there to rescue me.
My sister likes nice cars. She values my opinion (which makes many debate her sanity). She found the 3xxi to be too small. If it were me, and as I told her, I'd look closely at the 335i GT. It might be a dog styling-wise, but it has a TON of room. She believes she needs that room. Not sure why. She's in her early 60s, and her son is grown. Her husband drives a Volvo X90, so if they need something big, they have that.
She drives by herself mostly. She learned to drive in the era of the big American iron. She likes the size of bigger cars. It's what she's used to.
She thinks my past sports car fetish was frivolous.
Silly girl!
GG, sis might just like one of these.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
She won't like paying for it, however.
Oldfarmer, I've been waiting to hear what other posters had to say about your possible Mustang purchase. Since I ordered the first 2013 V6 and traded for the GT off the lot I'm somewhat familiar with option packages. (Ford is pitiful with options). First off, since you don't seem to listen to my advice I say go for the Brembo brake package. You'll need it for all the 150 MPH to zero stops you'll be doing and the regular brakes only work well at 90 or so. Don't get a backup camera because the view out the slanted rear window is great as long as it's over 4 feet tall. The 3.55 posi rear which I have on both Mustangs may not be important to you what with the rear end being so easy to control in rain, etc. Don't bother with the Recaro seats, they're just too comfy. And by all means, get the 4 cyl turbo so that when the turbo quits working you still have 92 HP to get you home. Don't pay attention to any of this as I don't know much about Mustangs. j/k of course.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
"Sis would like one of these"
Mako, if my memory serves me, that's a picture of a '55 Roadmaster. My Dad owned a '56 Roadmaster convertible - white with red leather interior. It still is one of the most beautiful convertibles Buick ever produced.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Past fetish? When did that pass? F-Type, 911/Cayman, Corvette(!), M4... Now is not the time to "grow up," young man!
I'm still an Acura fan, I just could not live with the beak...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Boy this steams me....
http://www.ibtimes.com/texas-now-producing-much-oil-iraq-1616920
Texas alone now outproduces Iraqi oil output. For all intents and purposes, the U.S. controls the oil we use, and produce, for the entier country. Big oil's recent excuse, that China has driven up the cost of gas in the U.S. (which always seemed particularly bogus to me), is now debunked. We don't need to pay those prices. We produce our own.
Oh...BTW....know what a gallon of gas costs in Iraq? The country we liberated?
Try about $1.50/gal.
Another letter/phone call to Boehner, the White House, etc.
None. Ford is really bad for foisting them on customers though and people still buy them. I saw a newish Taurus yesterday with a light color interior, had never seen that before.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
it's quite interesting that some of the most oil-rich countries have the most poverty and the most corruption. You'd think such riches would be a boon to the population, but alas, that rarely happens.
What the article fails to mention is that the methods needed for harvesting the "tight oil" requires fracking methods that are more expensive that traditional methods. Profitably drilling for "tight oil" can only be supported at higher oil prices. If prices drop, those methods will be abandoned.
I still get a little chuckle that people think there a correlation between oil production/prices and the price of gas. The price of gas at the wholesale level is definitely controlled by the refiners. Since we don't have a real alternative to gasoline, the refiners are able to set prices where they want them. The only way gas prices will drop dramatically is if the profit motive were eliminated and I highly doubt anyone would want to see oil nationalized,
As for the price of gas in Iraq, it doesn't matter. They don't export gas - they export oil. Besides, just because the US "liberated" Iraq, we are not entitled to their oil. Remember, that little skirmish wasn't about oil.
Hands out for a slapping for crossing the political line.....
GG, I have owned several Honda's, 2 Legends, and 1 RL. All at or near the top of my list, especially the Acuras. I never owned a TL, but I would seriously consider one now if I was in the market. I think your sis would be very happy with a TL, or even happier with a good deal on the RLX.
I think Acura made a huge marketing mistake when they dropped the "Legend" name.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Their biggest mistake was installing the beak-nose. What were they thinking?
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
So what I'm getting from your tounge-in-cheek advice is that the Brembos are unnecessary overkill. Still, would be nice to have that extra little bit of stopping power. Who knows what mischief I'll get into.
Backup camera will be unnecessary for me since I hope to be always moving away from other objects...very quickly
The 3:55 rear end might be doable if it doesn't eat the gas too bad. What's the EPA rating on your GT with that option? The 3:73 gears while seductive probably are too much of a good thing. The limit slip dif is a plus. Doesn't the standard gear set up have that? If not I'd have to consider the 3:55.
Recaro seats are pretty pricey so I don't see me getting those.
4cyl. Turbo? Are you kidding? Not unless gas goes to $10/ gal.
Now I'll have to go rebuild the car and see what it will cost with these extras.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Yes, another huge mistake.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Well, unless I am misunderstanding your posts again, it looks like we might have a sales story before too long.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I had my 08 Outlook at Valvoline Instant Oil Change last week. They pulled out the air filter and even though it was not that bad, I let them change it for $21. I think this is the second change in 6 years and 59K miles. I let them change it for a couple of $$ more than I could have bought one for at Wal-Mart. I did the first one and remember the 6 torx screws and the difficulty. No way I will do that again when I can let them do it for $3-4 and save 45 minutes of my time. I had already paid $20 to Groupon for a $40 oil change, so the oil, oil filter & air filter ended up costing me $48 total (including paying for an extra 1/2 quart over the 5 allowed in the std change)
Bill
@oldfarmer Have build a Mustang on the Ford site? The optional rear axles are only available with the performance pkg. 3.55 for Ecoboost perf pkg and 3.73 for GT perf pkg.
It all depends on how much I get for the Eclipse and how far I can stretch my social security check.
At this point there's no question about if, only about when. I got the itch bad and short of my wife threatening to leave me over it,it will be scratched.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible