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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388


    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    one of the reasons I want to move (besides slashing my property tax bill!) is that it will force a good clean out of the house. Probably a few fights with the wife along the way, but that's life! If we don't do it, someday the kids are just going to dumpsterize everything.

    My wife was executor for two friends that died...they were hoarders. The stairs going up had junk on every step...just enough room for your one foot on each step. To get to the bed they had a small path through the junk. In the room over the garage there were sewing machines from the 30s, original empty Coke bottles, cans of oil from the 1930s, ancient lamps.

    It took one huge dumpster and one smaller one to get rid of stuff, and that was with a dealer taking away about 20% of it. btw, don't bother saving antique furniture, crystal or silverware....no one wants it anymore.

    ok I am back from having a password issue so I will start back from here.  

    With hoarders you have to be real careful. My grandparents were hoarders and their house was like you described. When we cleared that out we were throwing things out right and left. One item was a crappy old worthless compact. I don't know what possessed me to open it but I did and I found five two and a half dollar gold coins. You never know what is stashed away with that type of person.




    First of all, welcome back snake. Now I know why you haven't been posting recently.

    You sure are right about, "...you never know what is stashed away with that type of person..."! When my Dad passed away 2-1/2 years ago, I was charged with the responsibility of going through everything and throwing out huge amounts of clothing and personal items because my brother did not help me - but that was OK, I was the one responsible for him.

    I still have some of those items in the two top drawers of his dresser and in the night table that is next to the master-bedroom bed. I just want to leave a few things around to remind me of him. All the other dressers and drawers and the closets are empty of his things. I never donated the clothing or any of his other belongings to a charitable organization - most of the clothing he had was over 20 years old - the only new clothing (newer is more appropriate) were those clothes items I bought for him for birthdays, Father's Days, and holidays. He never spent a dime on any clothes, no matter how many arguments we had.

    I think I mentioned this a few years back, but just in case I didn't, it is worth repeating. Dad owned a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson Snub Nosed pistol with walnut grip, a custom leather holster and several boxes of ammunition. We had discussions to get rid of it about 10-15 years ago and he told me he had donated it to the American Veterans Association. So, as I am stuffing things into plastic bags from his dresser drawers, underneath a row of unused white athletic socks I found the pistol and several boxes of ammunition. The ammo was useless because it was so old. But the gun was in like-new condition and probably fired only a few times. He kept it for his business when he had to make cash drops at the bank of large sums of money. This was when credit cards were not very well known or used, back in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

    I called the police department and asked if they were interested in taking it. They sent over an officer who informed me that they no longer take in guns. He suggested I sell it at a gun store. He said I did not need a permit so long as I did not have the gun loaded and did not take it outside the house. So I brought it over to a local gun dealer (we have tons of them here in Florida). The dealer looked at the gun, smelled it, and mentioned to me that he doubted the gun was ever fired - he said the firing pin was like-new as was the entire pistol. He offered me $300 for it - but I think I ended up selling it to him for $400. He said the leather holster was worth quite a bit as well. It seems that guns like that one were in high demand, especially in the condition this one was.

    Unfortunately, I did not find any gold coins or jewelry, like you did, but it was a shock when I uncovered the gun.


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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,372
    driver100 said:

    @roadburner wow congrads on everything! still do come in hear when you can tho!

    I'll probably have some time with just the city attorney gig; if/when I get the Commonwealth Attorney positin I'll have a LOT more on my plate.
    The important thing is....can you fix tickets for us?
    Sorry- the city attorney has nothing to do with that, and the Commonwealth Attorney only deals with felonies...

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    Is there not any way to find out if a will was involved in a case like this?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,372
    fintail said:

    I've always preferred a sale over an auction - faster, and you don't have worry about shill bidders or drunks bidding you up. My parents were hobbyist antique dealers, and I attended many auctions with my dad. It seemed very time consuming, and sometimes the deals were questionable, when he'd get stuck on an item. I just want to buy it and get out of there. There's also the thrill of the hunt at a sale, getting out early, being first, finding unexpected things, etc.

    Toys do very well in this market, one category that hasn't suffered so much. Vehicle toys and character toys also have global popularity, which can only help prices.


    driver100 said:


    I would advise against getting rid of furniture through an auction, unless you are desperate and don't care. In the case of these two friends who died, an auctioneer came, appraised the furniture at about $25000...there was a pine cabinet and chairs etc. appraised at $3000 approx. Most things sold for 10% of the value, then he got 20% or something. I asked him what happens if an item doesn't sell. His answer was don't worry, everything sells. Everything sells because if it isn't of much interest he sells it for $1. Thing is, once they have it they couldn't care less...they just want their commission.

    Most of the buyers had little shops or sell online....and they are very particular.

    The best selling items were old toys!

    We needed three 20 yd dumpsters to clean out my mother's house when we moved in...

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,254
    edited December 2017
    houdini1 said:

    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    Is there not any way to find out if a will was involved in a case like this?
    I was thinking the same thing. Usually a live in girlfriend doesn't have intestate rights over family. Maybe one of our lawyers can correct me on that.

    http://info.legalzoom.com/inheritance-hierarchy-new-york-state-23754.html

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,132

    driver100 said:

    @roadburner wow congrads on everything! still do come in hear when you can tho!

    I'll probably have some time with just the city attorney gig; if/when I get the Commonwealth Attorney positin I'll have a LOT more on my plate.
    The important thing is....can you fix tickets for us?
    Sorry- the city attorney has nothing to do with that, and the Commonwealth Attorney only deals with felonies...
    OK...what if we have a LOT of speeding tickets? ;)
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,339
    No idea if there even was a will. From what we could tell, she had cleaned out most of his assets while he was alive, so there wouldn't have been much left.

    It was a rather bizarre last few years for him, unfortunately.

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,080
    Stuff is only valuable if someone wants it and is willing to pay a price to get it. These days hardly anyone is. The problem is, everyone’s house is full of that stuff. It’s never as unique as you think it is. And no one wants to store cupboards full of old china that can’t be washed in a dishwasher. Younger people have small spaces and are very practical about what they put in them.
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    I understand that happens quite often. We took about 2 hours to have our wills done, then shook hands with the lawyer, then I said I have one more question. What if I go first, my wife has all the money, she meets some smooth talking boy toy in Florida, and he takes over all the finances, and the kids will be left with nothing.

    Our solution was if one of us goes, the 3 children get a fair amount at that time, so they won't be left out entirely, even if the remaining one does something foolish.

    The lawyer told us this one:
    The husband died and left his wife with a house and money of about $500000.
    Wife had two children from the marriage.
    She met someone new fairly quickly, got married, then she got ill and died soon after.
    The new husband got it all.........and the children nothing. I am sure that was not her intention.

    Unfortunately, lawyers don't really point these things out when people make a will.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Mentioned looking at new TVs for my son. Went to Best Buy last night. While the OLEDs haven’t dropped much since I bought mine over a year ago, the other TVs have become much better and dropped in price.

    Pretty good time to buy one. I’ve never seen such an array of really good TVs with excellent pics and all the online goodies for such low prices.

    Observations....Sony, Samsung and LG seem to be the ones that are vying for top honors. Sony has their own OLED (that they get from LG), but even those a step down from OLED are quite good. He liked the Vizio, but it did not have its own tuner. So, that was a non-starter for him.

    Didn’t know SHarp was still in the biz. But, saw a few of those at Best Buy. Thinking someone bought the rights to Sharp and is now slapping the name on some (mediocre) TVs made by someone else.

    All the rest seemed 2nd or 3rd tier for picture quality....Insignia (Best Buy’s house brand), Westinghouse (who knows where these are coming from, but they don’t look very good)...and some others on the periphery.

    Right now, he’s leaning towards a Sony 900 series. But, we went to Costco, and they didn’t have that TV. So, he’s also looking at their Samsung 8xxx series from Costco, too.

    Both are around $1,500 for 65”

    Still, makes me wonder if plasmas kept being developed what they’d look like today, especially at 4K.

    Side benefit, I get to spend time with my son while shopping. We usually have a quick bite before we’re hitting the stores. I’m sure I love this more than he does. But, who knows....he at least gets a free meal out of it.

    I just picked up the Samsung 65" 8XXX series from Costco during their Black Friday sale for $1279. Beautiful picture and a great price.
    Thanks 28FF. We looked at those again last night. I liked it. My son seems to be stuck on the Sony X900E. His money. His choice. The other issue, there’s no way the Costco TV would fit in my TLX and definitely not in his GTI.

    Best Buy will deliver for free.

    But, using “my” Costco card would extend the warranty at no charge on their TVs.

    Decisions....decisions!
    Buy at Costco and take it home without a box...it should fit!

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,172

    fintail said:

    I've always preferred a sale over an auction - faster, and you don't have worry about shill bidders or drunks bidding you up. My parents were hobbyist antique dealers, and I attended many auctions with my dad. It seemed very time consuming, and sometimes the deals were questionable, when he'd get stuck on an item. I just want to buy it and get out of there. There's also the thrill of the hunt at a sale, getting out early, being first, finding unexpected things, etc.

    Toys do very well in this market, one category that hasn't suffered so much. Vehicle toys and character toys also have global popularity, which can only help prices.


    driver100 said:


    I would advise against getting rid of furniture through an auction, unless you are desperate and don't care. In the case of these two friends who died, an auctioneer came, appraised the furniture at about $25000...there was a pine cabinet and chairs etc. appraised at $3000 approx. Most things sold for 10% of the value, then he got 20% or something. I asked him what happens if an item doesn't sell. His answer was don't worry, everything sells. Everything sells because if it isn't of much interest he sells it for $1. Thing is, once they have it they couldn't care less...they just want their commission.

    Most of the buyers had little shops or sell online....and they are very particular.

    The best selling items were old toys!

    We needed three 20 yd dumpsters to clean out my mother's house when we moved in...
    That is a LOT of junk.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,493
    I joke to my mom that there's going to be a big "everything's a dollar" sale, if she doesn't start thinning out her hoard. The threat doesn't dissuade her, even with her dislike of some local pickers. I expect/hope that time it at least a couple decades off, there's probably a 5000 sq ft house full of stuff crammed into about 1500 sq ft. At least it is a clean organized hoard, and she isn't hitting the sales as often as in the past.



    We needed three 20 yd dumpsters to clean out my mother's house when we moved in...

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,172
    driver100 said:

    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    I understand that happens quite often. We took about 2 hours to have our wills done, then shook hands with the lawyer, then I said I have one more question. What if I go first, my wife has all the money, she meets some smooth talking boy toy in Florida, and he takes over all the finances, and the kids will be left with nothing.

    Our solution was if one of us goes, the 3 children get a fair amount at that time, so they won't be left out entirely, even if the remaining one does something foolish.

    The lawyer told us this one:
    The husband died and left his wife with a house and money of about $500000.
    Wife had two children from the marriage.
    She met someone new fairly quickly, got married, then she got ill and died soon after.
    The new husband got it all.........and the children nothing. I am sure that was not her intention.

    Unfortunately, lawyers don't really point these things out when people make a will.
    Something similar happened to my daughter-in-law. Her mother was well off and married a guy with questionable character for some reason. She soon died and the new husband had everything.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    houdini1 said:

    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    Is there not any way to find out if a will was involved in a case like this?
    According to our lawyer, there is very little that can be done at that point. People fight wills, but it is difficult. I like when the will stipulates if you argue about it you get nothing....that makes it pretty clear.

    In the case I mentioned, woman's new husband got everything, the lawyer said he would have to ask the new husband to please consider the 2 children...but, chances are slim he will hand over anything.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    houdini1 said:

    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    Is there not any way to find out if a will was involved in a case like this?
    I was thinking the same thing. Usually a live in girlfriend doesn't have intestate rights over family. Maybe one of our lawyers can correct me on that.

    http://info.legalzoom.com/inheritance-hierarchy-new-york-state-23754.html
    The girlfriend would have rights if she is named as a recipient in the will.

    In fact, I heard about a case that is like that. Guy leaves his wife after many bad years. Has a new girlfriend who he has known for 8 months. He is riding his motorcycle, crashes, and dies. The new love of his life his girlfriend gets $0, the wife gets the money from his estate including insurance....HE DIDN'T CHANGE HIS INSURANCE POLICY.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited December 2017


    roadburner said: Sorry- the city attorney has nothing to do with that, and the Commonwealth Attorney only deals with felonies...>


    graphicguy OK...what if we have a LOT of speeding tickets?


    So you can only help if we are involved in some kind of major crime then......also could come in handy.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    A few weeks ago I spent a week between Cleveland and Columbus interviewing people to build out a new team and eventually settled on Columbus because there is less competition for talent between other groups within my line of business. I settled on the candidates I liked and made what I felt are competitive offers. Every one of them countered with a minimum of $10,000 more than what I offered. One counter was for more than one of my direct reports makes and she has 15+ years of experience, this person has 2 years total.

    I have room to move up in my offers but I'm definitely taken aback at what people feel they are worth with the experience they have in the workplace.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,481
    With my dads house we did at least 2 large dumpsters. Can’t remember if needed a 3rd. Sister and I referred to it as “packing it in the big ed box”

    My sister (other one, the black sheep) died earlier this year. A couple years back, I got blacklisted like the rest of the family (she had issues), and since I was her executor, she demanded I return her will, since she did not want me involved any longer. But, when they found her papers, turns out she was too lazy (or more likely cheap) to draw up a new one. So I ended up stuck with the job, dealing with a nasty nephew and a ton of sibling dysfunction. Not fun.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,847
    pensfan83 said:

    A few weeks ago I spent a week between Cleveland and Columbus interviewing people to build out a new team and eventually settled on Columbus because there is less competition for talent between other groups within my line of business. I settled on the candidates I liked and made what I felt are competitive offers. Every one of them countered with a minimum of $10,000 more than what I offered. One counter was for more than one of my direct reports makes and she has 15+ years of experience, this person has 2 years total.

    I have room to move up in my offers but I'm definitely taken aback at what people feel they are worth with the experience they have in the workplace.

    Makes you wonder if these folks actually want to move into this role or only want more money. Do they have market justification for what they're asking for?
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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,080
    More likely they have heard its common to ask for more and be prepared to take a little less. I think people see job salary offers as a negotiation. You don’t want to be the one to find out later someone negotiated a higher salary than you and feel foolish.
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,372
    venture said:

    fintail said:

    I've always preferred a sale over an auction - faster, and you don't have worry about shill bidders or drunks bidding you up. My parents were hobbyist antique dealers, and I attended many auctions with my dad. It seemed very time consuming, and sometimes the deals were questionable, when he'd get stuck on an item. I just want to buy it and get out of there. There's also the thrill of the hunt at a sale, getting out early, being first, finding unexpected things, etc.

    Toys do very well in this market, one category that hasn't suffered so much. Vehicle toys and character toys also have global popularity, which can only help prices.


    driver100 said:


    I would advise against getting rid of furniture through an auction, unless you are desperate and don't care. In the case of these two friends who died, an auctioneer came, appraised the furniture at about $25000...there was a pine cabinet and chairs etc. appraised at $3000 approx. Most things sold for 10% of the value, then he got 20% or something. I asked him what happens if an item doesn't sell. His answer was don't worry, everything sells. Everything sells because if it isn't of much interest he sells it for $1. Thing is, once they have it they couldn't care less...they just want their commission.

    Most of the buyers had little shops or sell online....and they are very particular.

    The best selling items were old toys!

    We needed three 20 yd dumpsters to clean out my mother's house when we moved in...
    That is a LOT of junk.
    Tell me about it...

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,481
    You don’t ask, you never get. And if it is like my company, raises are rare and that would be about the only time to get a significant bump. And, your long term report, probably is underpaid! We see that a lot. The loyal people that just stay, Fall way behind pay wise.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited December 2017
    https://youtu.be/GkQ5qi1NfD0

    This guy's review of the 2016 Scion iA is my favorite of all of them. And I've watched dozens of them by now. He really hits the high points of what excites me about this car. This car is a Mazda at the bone, as most of you know, and it is very fun to drive, because of how it was built. This guy touches on those building points well in this video. Still excited about getting this car, though it could be another 6 months until I'm ready to purchase one.

    I will say this: If I waited until my wife wanted to buy a car, I'd never, ever get another car of my liking. So the purchase is possible just as soon as I have my 90-day probation meeting with my boss. That is in a couple of weeks. It's more likely I'll wait until after we've bought our eastern Washington house, though.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,481
    Trash the Kia through this winter, and wait until you relo to get the nice new car.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,339
    edited December 2017
    stickguy said:

    You don’t ask, you never get. And if it is like my company, raises are rare and that would be about the only time to get a significant bump. And, your long term report, probably is underpaid! We see that a lot. The loyal people that just stay, Fall way behind pay wise.

    How true. I got caught up in that.

    In the place where I last worked, I was in government when I did the work that convinced the politicians to change its structure. It went from being a govt. commission to a corporation, though the gov still owned it. But the people were no longer civil servants and a new management team was brought in along with a Board of outside directors. After a short time the Board Chair realized he and the rest of the Board were in way over their heads and were having difficulties dealing with the new CEO and V-Ps. He asked me to move there to be their Corporate Secretary and act as a go-between for the Board and senior management. I did and got a nice salary bump, but was making about half what the CEO got. No problem, I enjoyed the work, learned a lot of new things, and was happy.

    Fast-forward a couple of years. The CEO convinces the Board there should be a bonus structure. What this resulted in was them all getting raises of 20%-30% because the bonuses were mostly automatic if you didn't totally screw up. My job didn't qualify for a bonus since I didn't have operational areas so now I'm low man on the totem poll. In the interim the job got even more challenging. Pleas to both the (new) Chair and (new) CEO for another look at the compensation were ignored because they were both new and didn't know exactly what I did. Meanwhile there was a revolving door for some of the V-Ps as they crashed and burned despite their nice compensation which you would have hoped resulted in good hires. I bailed out the new CEO umpteen times from his own screw-ups and became what he called his "conscience", an advisor whom he would run contentious things past. It took almost 10 years before there was substantive change in my pay, and that was only because some V-Ps got fired and I took on some of their areas. I figured when I retired they shorted me out of about $200K over the years, but I was glad to go by the end.

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356

    https://youtu.be/GkQ5qi1NfD0

    This guy's review of the 2016 Scion iA is my favorite of all of them. And I've watched dozens of them by now. He really hits the high points of what excites me about this car. This car is a Mazda at the bone, as most of you know, and it is very fun to drive, because of how it was built. This guy touches on those building points well in this video. Still excited about getting this car, though it could be another 6 months until I'm ready to purchase one.

    I will say this: If I waited until my wife wanted to buy a car, I'd never, ever get another car of my liking. So the purchase is possible just as soon as I have my 90-day probation meeting with my boss. That is in a couple of weeks. It's more likely I'll wait until after we've bought our eastern Washington house, though.

    Here is more fuel for the fire iluv. I recently read an article somewhere on long term reliability. The iA was right near the top.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    edited December 2017

    Makes you wonder if these folks actually want to move into this role or only want more money. Do they have market justification for what they're asking for?

    Based on what I'm paying people with more knowledge, experience, and what our HR folks shared with me about the Columbus market, no they don't.

    @stickguy @suydam I get where you're both coming from. They are all external candidates so I already gave myself room to adjust offers knowing it's a process. In the time I made that post one candidate came back and wanted to know if we would consider coming up by a few thousand dollars and cited a few reasons for justification. I agreed and told the recruiter to add another $1,000 since it was in the budget so I did get at least one person, still working on others. I can appreciate someone trying to get as much $$$ as they can, it's why we work, but I also think if a person goes by the "if you don't ask you don't get" rule of thumb you better be able to support your position with factual data, especially if the salary request exceeds industry norms for the role, experience, and marketplace.
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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    pensfan83 said:

    Makes you wonder if these folks actually want to move into this role or only want more money. Do they have market justification for what they're asking for?

    Based on what I'm paying people with more knowledge, experience, and what our HR folks shared with me about the Columbus market, no they don't.

    @stickguy @suydam I get where you're both coming from. They are all external candidates so I already gave myself room to adjust offers knowing it's a process. In the time I made that post one candidate came back and wanted to know if we would consider coming up by a few thousand dollars and cited a few reasons for justification. I agreed and told the recruiter to add another $1,000 since it was in the budget so I did get at least one person, still working on others. I can appreciate someone trying to get as much $$$ as they can, it's why we work, but I also think if a person goes by the "if you don't ask you don't get" rule of thumb you better be able to support your position with factual data, especially if the salary request exceeds industry norms for the role, experience, and marketplace.
    Like my grandpappy told me, "No risk it, no biscuit" ! :p

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    pensfan83 said:
    A few weeks ago I spent a week between Cleveland and Columbus interviewing people to build out a new team and eventually settled on Columbus because there is less competition for talent between other groups within my line of business. I settled on the candidates I liked and made what I felt are competitive offers. Every one of them countered with a minimum of $10,000 more than what I offered. One counter was for more than one of my direct reports makes and she has 15+ years of experience, this person has 2 years total. I have room to move up in my offers but I'm definitely taken aback at what people feel they are worth with the experience they have in the workplace.
    One of my kids just got a new job.  The company offered $55,000 + bonuses and incentives.  My kid countered at $58,000++ and they immediately agreed.  We laughed when I said she should have asked for $60,000++ since they had fiercely recruited her.  But at least she now has a job.  Touch and go there for awhile.  The northwest suburbs of Chicago are having some troubles getting people to apply for jobs because of the very high income and real estate taxes forcing people to leave the state.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Pensfan.....do your interviews go something like this?

    Job interview with a millenial

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    iluv, I watched the video and I think I want to buy one!

    It sounds like a great little car. I think it is doable if it is only $75 a month more to drive. I think probation period is important, companies can be brutal these days if they don't think you fit in - nothing to do with ability. Also, personality conflicts can be larger problem than actual ability. We are talking $20 a week more, with repairs and service on the Soul probably $12 a week more. You may need to draw up some figures to show Mrs iluv. The car looks really nice too, that front end does look good on the iA.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    driver100 said:
    Pensfan.....do your interviews go something like this? Job interview with a millenial
    Best line in that was "OK yes"

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,493
    Boomers mocking millennials, never gets old B)

    Regarding pay, if all qualified applicants are asking for more, maybe the problem isn't really with the applicants ;)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,339
    driver100 said:

    Pensfan.....do your interviews go something like this?

    Job interview with a millenial

    That's awesome. And not too far off the truth.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited December 2017
    I was gonna wait to buy my 2017 Toyota Yaris iA, but, because I want a 2017, I am starting to think buy at the end of December 2017.

    I want the $2,000 off that Toyota is offering on the 2017 Yaris iA. I don't want some other lucky guy buying my iA before I can get that red one.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,782
    That video was darn funny. :)
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,057
    driver100 said:
    Pensfan.....do your interviews go something like this? Job interview with a millenial
    I’ve been passing that one around.  It’s an instant classic.  

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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    @iluvmysephia1 nice car favarate color that I like!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,481
    loved that video. I just sent it to my daughter the college senior. Though this is the same kid that texted this morning asking what is the matter with her. Senior year, "reading day" (off day before finals begin tomorrow), and she stayed in last night (skipping many parties), and even passed on roommate cinnamon bun breakfast today to get to her favorite reading spot early (and finding out, she was the only person in the place).

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Winter is about to bestow itself on South Florida tomorrow afternoon.  An arctic cold front is moving in from the north.  Today’s high was 87 degrees.  Tomorrow night it goes down to the low 40’s and low 60’s for a high.  Expected to approach the 30’s Sunday night and 40’s Monday night.

    I know you guys live through much colder weather, but you have to understand that we have many difficulties handling temps below the 70’s by day and 60’s by night.  We just are not prepared to deal with temps that low.  Brrrrrrr!   :'(

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,057
    Crank up the heaters!!!!

    We are supposed to get some white stuff here in South Jersey.   Let’s hope they are wrong!

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited December 2017
    houdini1, thanks man, for the continued affirmation. Man, the value proposition with this 2017 Toyota Yaris iA is unbeatable. 

    driver100-buy yourself one! I am loving that big gaping maw on the front of the Yaris iA. The rest of the car looks remarkably like a smaller Mazda 3. Wonder why that is? Tee hee.

    Now, to take on those speed racers on the A-97 Highway! Actually, to just avoid hitting a deer would suffice for now. :p

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  • fordfoolfordfool Member Posts: 240
    driver100 said:

    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    I understand that happens quite often. We took about 2 hours to have our wills done, then shook hands with the lawyer, then I said I have one more question. What if I go first, my wife has all the money, she meets some smooth talking boy toy in Florida, and he takes over all the finances, and the kids will be left with nothing.

    Our solution was if one of us goes, the 3 children get a fair amount at that time, so they won't be left out entirely, even if the remaining one does something foolish.

    The lawyer told us this one:
    The husband died and left his wife with a house and money of about $500000.
    Wife had two children from the marriage.
    She met someone new fairly quickly, got married, then she got ill and died soon after.
    The new husband got it all.........and the children nothing. I am sure that was not her intention.

    Unfortunately, lawyers don't really point these things out when people make a will.
    Same thing happened to my sister-in-law and her brother. Mother died, dad retired selling his successful business, remarried, and eventually died. When new wife died everything went to her kids. Dad's kids got zilch.

    In New York, you can file your will with a probate court at the time of making the will. Then at death, the will is easily available. No searching for a will or suppressing the will.
  • fordfoolfordfool Member Posts: 240
    driver100 said:


    The girlfriend would have rights if she is named as a recipient in the will.

    The girlfriend could have the same rights as a wife in a common-law-marriage state.
    Colorado, Texas, and several more.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited December 2017
    fordfool said:

    driver100 said:

    ab348 said:

    At least the family is still involved. After my Mom passed away, my dad got involved with a woman he had known years before in the real estate biz. They were never married but lived together for a few years. When he died I'm sure there must have been a will, but none of us ever saw it or got asked to attend the reading. She just took whatever he had.

    I understand that happens quite often. We took about 2 hours to have our wills done, then shook hands with the lawyer, then I said I have one more question. What if I go first, my wife has all the money, she meets some smooth talking boy toy in Florida, and he takes over all the finances, and the kids will be left with nothing.

    Our solution was if one of us goes, the 3 children get a fair amount at that time, so they won't be left out entirely, even if the remaining one does something foolish.

    The lawyer told us this one:
    The husband died and left his wife with a house and money of about $500000.
    Wife had two children from the marriage.
    She met someone new fairly quickly, got married, then she got ill and died soon after.
    The new husband got it all.........and the children nothing. I am sure that was not her intention.

    Unfortunately, lawyers don't really point these things out when people make a will.
    Same thing happened to my sister-in-law and her brother. Mother died, dad retired selling his successful business, remarried, and eventually died. When new wife died everything went to her kids. Dad's kids got zilch.

    In New York, you can file your will with a probate court at the time of making the will. Then at death, the will is easily available. No searching for a will or suppressing the will.
    It happens a lot, and I am surprised lawyers don't advise their clients to avoid these issues.

    Filing a will for the public to see is an excellent idea.

    Like I said before, I asked my lawyer to add to my will, if I go first, my wife has to sell my E400, I don't want her new boyfriend driving my car! :@

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    abacomike said:
    Winter is about to bestow itself on South Florida tomorrow afternoon.  An arctic cold front is moving in from the north.  Today’s high was 87 degrees.  Tomorrow night it goes down to the low 40’s and low 60’s for a high.  Expected to approach the 30’s Sunday night and 40’s Monday night.

    I know you guys live through much colder weather, but you have to understand that we have many difficulties handling temps below the 70’s by day and 60’s by night.  We just are not prepared to deal with temps that low.  Brrrrrrr!   :'(
    I checked our long range forecast and we are not forecasted to get a high in the low 40's for at least a month or so. 

    We were in Orlando visiting the kids last Christmas and while playing with the grandkids I overheard on the news something about a cold front coming in and we should get out our coats. They said the temps would drop to the low to mid 60's. It was interesting to see people all bundled up in 65 degree weather while we were walking around on shorts. 

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    fordfool said:38p0
    The girlfriend would have rights if she is named as a recipient in the will.
    The girlfriend could have the same rights as a wife in a common-law-marriage state. Colorado, Texas, and several more.
    Most, if not all, states that have common law marriages require that the couple publically present themselves as married. If she is publically acknowledged as a girlfriend and not a wife it is not a common law marriage. 

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    abacomike said:
    Winter is about to bestow itself on South Florida tomorrow afternoon.  An arctic cold front is moving in from the north.  Today’s high was 87 degrees.  Tomorrow night it goes down to the low 40’s and low 60’s for a high.  Expected to approach the 30’s Sunday night and 40’s Monday night.

    I know you guys live through much colder weather, but you have to understand that we have many difficulties handling temps below the 70’s by day and 60’s by night.  We just are not prepared to deal with temps that low.  Brrrrrrr!   :'(
    I checked our long range forecast and we are not forecasted to get a high in the low 40's for at least a month or so. 

    We were in Orlando visiting the kids last Christmas and while playing with the grandkids I overheard on the news something about a cold front coming in and we should get out our coats. They said the temps would drop to the low to mid 60's. It was interesting to see people all bundled up in 65 degree weather while we were walking around on shorts. 
    Snake, it’s the high winds accompanied by 50-60 degree daytime temps that cuts you in half, if you know what I mean.  I’ll get a chance to check out the heated seats shortly.  Then on Monday, the moon roof gets opened for the first time.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,481
    just started snowing her in south Jersey (outside Philly). Coming down pretty hard. Big flakes.

    I hate it.

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