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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,405
    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    69-70 LTDs also had a dash aimed at the driver:

    Wide brake pedal, too.

    fintail said:

    69-70 LTDs also had a dash aimed at the driver:

    image

    Wide brake pedal, too.

    I think the 69 Fords started that off center dash stuff and I like it. It has been improved on since then and the Hyudai instrument panels are tastefully done...and it is nice to have the gauges and controls within view and reach of the driver. OTOH, the dash in my car is flat and not built around the driver, and I can see everything clearly. My wife likes the fact she can see the time and temperature from the passenger seat.

    That's nice enough - notice how nicely that center display is centered over the controls! ;) - but for me the silvered wood trim they offer is the bomb.


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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7JjF3DsuyRc

  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Enjoyed reading everything above the one on throughout the day today everyone sorry to job hunt a little each night going to meet with the state on Friday to get my case reopened it’s called the commission for the blind and visually impaired will help me get this last job to do what I Gotta do and stay strong and positive only a matter of weeks before the fall no more referrals coming in just closing of files and transferring them to other attorneys offices 
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,758
    edited April 2018
    Autoline vid: So fantastic! I love the Bosch portion of the video (between 30s and 2m:50s). SPOT ON! /claps
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,144
    roadburner said:
    I loved the "driver-centric" dash layout in my M6:
    You mention that car quite frequently.  We all have at least one we would want to have back ..I’d assume that you would. 

    I feel that way about my 89 Town Car.  Loved that boat. 

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,144

    stickguy said:
    I want the radio and HVAC controls to the left of the steering wheel. so my wife can't reach them and mess with how I want them set!
    Lincoln Marks in the late 70s had that as well as the Dodge Omni/Charger and clones.  

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,678
    I never had anything so special that I pine for it back. But a few oddballs I would not mind (assuming they were like when I had them!) The Nissan PU would come in real handy about now. And I always loved my 626 5 door (just hated the motorized belts).

    and I kinda miss my old 1975 Corolla!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,405
    roadburner said:

    I loved the "driver-centric" dash layout in my M6:

    Reminiscent of the dash in the '69 Grand Prix. BMW must have stolen the idea from GM. ;)


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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    jmonroe said:

    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    69-70 LTDs also had a dash aimed at the driver:

    Wide brake pedal, too.

    fintail said:

    69-70 LTDs also had a dash aimed at the driver:

    image

    Wide brake pedal, too.

    I think the 69 Fords started that off center dash stuff and I like it. It has been improved on since then and the Hyudai instrument panels are tastefully done...and it is nice to have the gauges and controls within view and reach of the driver. OTOH, the dash in my car is flat and not built around the driver, and I can see everything clearly. My wife likes the fact she can see the time and temperature from the passenger seat.

    That light colored fat steering wheel must get filthy just going back and forth to the grocery store. :@
    One thing for sure, @driver100 ain't buying a car with a skinny steering wheel like that Ford has. :o

    jmonroe
    jmonroe
    I haven't seen an E400 with a white wheel like that...I think they are available in Europe, mine is black.
    And you are right again.....number 13, I hate those skinny hard as steel little thin oversized steering wheels.

    By the way, I don't have that black pinstriped trim....I took wood trim, though my wife likes brushed aluminum...I won that minor victory.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    This is an 88 bmw so I think the Pontiac came later:


    BMW is less jazzy, but quietly elegant.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,437
    tjc78 said:


    roadburner said:

    I loved the "driver-centric" dash layout in my M6:


    You mention that car quite frequently.  We all have at least one we would want to have back ..I’d assume that you would. 

    I feel that way about my 89 Town Car.  Loved that boat. 

    Yes, maybe someday...

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    stickguy said:
    I never had anything so special that I pine for it back. But a few oddballs I would not mind (assuming they were like when I had them!) The Nissan PU would come in real handy about now. And I always loved my 626 5 door (just hated the motorized belts). and I kinda miss my old 1975 Corolla!
    I’m torn between my 1967 Stingray 427 cu in fastback and my 1966 red GTO.  Those were the good old days when manual transmissions were preferred over automatics.  Gosh - I miss that time in my life!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,437
    I replaced the overly restrictive catalytic converter in the M6 with a H-pipe. It sounded glorious- with a rumble at low speeds that would occasionally set off car alarms.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,983
    fintail said:

    If we're going to pick 1986 BMWs, at least go for top of the line:

    image

    Its 1986 MB counterpart was also quite a car:

    image

    I agree, the steering wheel makes a huge impression and can make a big difference - as you are dealing with it for virtually all of your time inside the car.

    Let's add an '86 quattro Audi to the mix:


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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,983
    edited April 2018


    My preferred interior.
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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Glad you enjoyed the video West that’s why keep on pushing them for your all’s enjoyment have a good day everyone 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     No no voice dictation not pushing them I don’t get paid posting them Ha ha ha because I enjoy watching that show for years when it was on TV before it went on to YouTube and I figured you all would enjoy it to 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    Lol lol lol
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Mike forgot to post last night when I was last on here sorry to hear about your blood clot issue I hope everything gets resolved quickly turns out well for the best we are all here for you in here like always they closer everybody in here 
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    Pretty nice.
    something tells me this may be nicer, though.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,405
    driver100 said:

    This is an 88 bmw so I think the Pontiac came later:

    BMW is less jazzy, but quietly elegant.

    1969 is 19 years earlier than that.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,869
    qbrozen said:
    Pretty nice.
    something tells me this may be nicer, though.

    That’s a lot of wood. 
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,597
    If we want nice interiors with wood, MB knew what they were doing with the 60s era W111 coupes:

    image

    Maybe even more wood than that Rolls-Royce.

    Early models had wood over the instrument binnacle as well. This wood is very expensive to restore:

    image

    The 1980s SECs, like the blue one I posted, have a timeless interior, too:

    image
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,405
    fintail said:


    The 1980s SECs, like the blue one I posted, have a timeless interior, too:

    image

    I like that very much. All it needs is a color-keyed steering wheel.

    The wooden dash-top defroster vents on the W111 coupe strike me as an unfortunate materials choice regardless of how nice they look.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,597
    The wood radio grille and windshield surround is another "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" replacement item, guaranteed to age quickly if the car ever sees sun. Same for the instrument binnacle. My fintail has a plastic radio grille, but wood windshield/vent frame - after 50+ years, it has patina, to put it nicely. These cars also have wood around the door window frames, various amounts of wood wood on the door panels, and on some models, wood door caps - another quick-to-age location.
    ab348 said:



    I like that very much. All it needs is a color-keyed steering wheel.

    The wooden dash-top defroster vents on the W111 coupe strike me as an unfortunate materials choice regardless of how nice they look.

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited April 2018

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,405
    ^^^ Looks almost conservative.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    ab348 said:

    fintail said:


    The 1980s SECs, like the blue one I posted, have a timeless interior, too:

    image

    I like that very much. All it needs is a color-keyed steering wheel.

    The wooden dash-top defroster vents on the W111 coupe strike me as an unfortunate materials choice regardless of how nice they look.
    I say it needs a less complicated shift gate. I wonder how long a pre-test drive familiarization takes to show a perspective customer how that contraption works. Probably falls into the category of superb German engineering.

    jmonroe

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    It has a dash of conservatism doused with a touch of sportiness.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,597
    It's a straight line notched shifter. If a person can't handle that, they probably shouldn't be driving at all B)
    jmonroe said:



    I say it needs a less complicated shift gate. I wonder how long a pre-test drive familiarization takes to show a perspective customer how that contraption works. Probably falls into the category of superb German engineering.

    jmonroe

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    edited April 2018
    fintail said:

    It's a straight line notched shifter. If a person can't handle that, they probably shouldn't be driving at all B)

    jmonroe said:



    I say it needs a less complicated shift gate. I wonder how long a pre-test drive familiarization takes to show a perspective customer how that contraption works. Probably falls into the category of superb German engineering.

    jmonroe

    I know how to drive but I don't want to drive something like that.

    I don't know what year that Benz is but I doubt they continued with that overly designed shift gate till today.

    EDIT: I now see that the Benz is a 1980. I like the interior of my '80 Buick Park Ave to that one. Column shifter and all.

    jmonroe

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,597
    edited April 2018
    You should see the column shift on my fintail - not straight line like an old domestic, it also has notches for each gear, kind of like a 4 on the tree automatic. It might be irksome :)

    The pictured car is from the late 80s. MB S-class coupes since 2007 have a column shift.

    This is a current model - it isn't a mechanical linkage, you simply move the lever up or down, press button for park:

    image



    jmonroe said:


    I know how to drive but I don't want to drive something like that.

    I don't know what year that Benz is but I doubt they continued with that overly designed shift gate till today.

    jmonroe

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,588
    andres3 said:



    My preferred interior.

    Gorgeous!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    28firefighter said:


    qbrozen said:

    Pretty nice.
    something tells me this may be nicer, though.


    That’s a lot of wood. 

    A momento of silence for all the trees and cows sacrificed to build this car. :p
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,678
    Am I the only one that finds the new S interior shown above to be awful looking?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,597
    edited April 2018
    The pre-facelift 2 spoke steering wheel is more amusing, with the (virtual) gauges, there's definitely a face, and it is kind of scary:

    image
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    stickguy said:

    Am I the only one that finds the new S interior shown above to be awful looking?

    Count me in on that. Some designer at Benz needs to be sedated and taken to a rest home.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,597
    There's not a lot of sound homogeneous dashboard/interior design out there these days - just like with different for the sake of different exterior designs, dashboards can be a bit overdone or just odd.

    Here's the new Lexus LS interior - this is a big competitor the S-class. It is...different. Especially the knobs on the gauge hood, not sure it looks the price point, although the materials are no doubt excellent:

    image
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,221
    I miss my first car, my '78 VW Scirocco. White (and eventually, rust) with black interior. Recaro seats, amber fog lights. No a/c. Quickly missed that. Light, great handling, 77hp IIRC. Could almost pick it up and put it in your pocket.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    fintail said:

    There's not a lot of sound homogeneous dashboard/interior design out there these days - just like with different for the sake of different exterior designs, dashboards can be a bit overdone or just odd.

    Here's the new Lexus LS interior - this is a big competitor the S-class. It is...different. Especially the knobs on the gauge hood, not sure it looks the price point, although the materials are no doubt excellent:

    image

    Geesh---I wouldn't want to have to look at that every morning.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    How about the front end on the 2019 Avalon?


    Who did they copy?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    fintail said:

    You should see the column shift on my fintail - not straight line like an old domestic, it also has notches for each gear, kind of like a 4 on the tree automatic. It might be irksome :)

    The pictured car is from the late 80s. MB S-class coupes since 2007 have a column shift.

    This is a current model - it isn't a mechanical linkage, you simply move the lever up or down, press button for park:

    image





    jmonroe said:


    I know how to drive but I don't want to drive something like that.

    I don't know what year that Benz is but I doubt they continued with that overly designed shift gate till today.

    jmonroe

    A little much.....that is an upgraded premium interior which makes the car look like a rolling bordello. Rather not have the pinstriping accents and those seats are a little overdone.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    driver100 said:

    This is an 88 bmw so I think the Pontiac came later:

    BMW is less jazzy, but quietly elegant.

    1969 is 19 years earlier than that.
    I told you I was bad at math. 69 Grand Prix


    But 69 Ford Galaxy.....to me this was more pronounced:



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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    fintail said:

    There's not a lot of sound homogeneous dashboard/interior design out there these days - just like with different for the sake of different exterior designs, dashboards can be a bit overdone or just odd.

    Here's the new Lexus LS interior - this is a big competitor the S-class. It is...different. Especially the knobs on the gauge hood, not sure it looks the price point, although the materials are no doubt excellent:

    image

    Geesh---I wouldn't want to have to look at that every morning.
    Depends on how much you drank the night before. :'(

    jmonroe

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    stickguy said:
    Am I the only one that finds the new S interior shown above to be awful looking?
    I hate that white interior on that S Class you are referring to.  I have Black Poplar wood on my dash, armrests (front and rear) and console and black leather.  That white Napa quilted leather and the white dash looks awful.  

    I happen to like the interior of the S in term of the layout and ease of accessing routines and sub-routines.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    fintail said:
    The pre-facelift 2 spoke steering wheel is more amusing, with the (virtual) gauges, there's definitely a face, and it is kind of scary: image
    That interior above is not the new dash or multi-function steering wheel on the S Class.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Kenworth (Australia):


  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited April 2018
    Now that is what I call a surround sound and gauge show dash!

    Except....why are they on the wrong side? Must be England!

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    driver100 said:

    Now that is what I call a surround sound and gauge show dash!

    Except....why are they on the wrong side? Must be England!

    Shifty gave you hint...Australia. :open_mouth:

    jmonroe

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,353
    edited April 2018
    Is Ford nuts?

    They are going to stop selling sedans in NA and only offer SUVs and trucks? How stupid can you get? At least the Mustang will still be available.

    What's the thinking behind this and how do they plan on meeting federal milage requirements for fleet averages?

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