We were supposed to leave at 12:30 P.M. and would be served lunch immediately after take off. Since we didn't leave they gave us each a 10 pound certificate for lunch....pays for a glass of wine and a Yorky.
Good luck getting compensation from an airline. I think they should give discounts on future flights for every delay, about $50 an hour for our time.
Hey, driver, did you hear about a new model E Class coming out here in the US for 2019? It's going to be an "E450" with standard AWD, the higher horsepower version of the 3.0 liter twin turbo (363 hp) and available with the AMG package. It's going to be a stupendous vehicle. I would definitely consider that for my car - but luckily I am buried in my 36 month lease on the S450. Oil change, here I come!
I really can't remember the last time I was delayed any length of time for a flight, which to me is measured in hours not minutes. I usually go to great lengths to avoid connecting through airports that are notorious for lengthy non weather related delays *cough* PHL/LGA *cough*.
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if we don't change anything in the fleet in the near term, I need to see how fast can pay off the Elantra. Been a while since we had all the cars paid off at one time. But we used to do it. Before the kids hit college!
Took out a 5 year loan. Could have done 3 instead probably, certainly 4. So just need to double up payments to get it done in two.
A guy at work bought a 2013 low mile Elantra to do Lyft and Uber. This week his daughter rear ended two cars while texting at 55 mph. Daughter ok but two other parties injured. Car totaled.
While he had it he loved the car. I'm guessing his feelings for his daughter are mixed at this point.
He'd better hope his/her insurance doesn't cap out, what with injuries at play here.
Mike, you can divorce a SIL or DIL easily. Problem is, your kid usually goes to. So have to decide what’s more important.
And that indeed is the problem. As it will be if you report it to the police as a theft. You have to decide whether you want to take that drastic step.
Mike, you can divorce a SIL or DIL easily. Problem is, your kid usually goes to. So have to decide what’s more important.
Here is the problem stick. 80 to 90% of people are pretty honest and decent. That is what makes civilization work. Otherwise, we couldn't leave our house, business wouldn't trust businesses to pay for goods. When you get a con man involved, he knows the buttons to push that make you believe him. If she believes him, and doesn't believe us, then she has to make her choices.....I can't force her to realize he is a con man....she has to find out, and I will try to prove it to her......then she can make the decision. All I know is I want nothing to do with him.......life is good, and he is the only negative in my life....and I want him removed. (Do you know someone who could do it?)
Hey, driver, did you hear about a new model E Class coming out here in the US for 2019? It's going to be an "E450" with standard AWD, the higher horsepower version of the 3.0 liter twin turbo (363 hp) and available with the AMG package. It's going to be a stupendous vehicle. I would definitely consider that for my car - but luckily I am buried in my 36 month lease on the S450. Oil change, here I come!
My car is 15 months old, was driven for 9 months, has about 10k miles on it....so I won't be trading it in to get 53 more horses Mike. Besides, if we aren't driving to and from Florida, I might get a C Class next time.
Mike, you can divorce a SIL or DIL easily. Problem is, your kid usually goes to. So have to decide what’s more important.
Here is the problem stick. 80 to 90% of people are pretty honest and decent. That is what makes civilization work. Otherwise, we couldn't leave our house, business wouldn't trust businesses to pay for goods. When you get a con man involved, he knows the buttons to push that make you believe him. If she believes him, and doesn't believe us, then she has to make her choices.....I can't force her to realize he is a con man....she has to find out, and I will try to prove it to her......then she can make the decision. All I know is I want nothing to do with him.......life is good, and he is the only negative in my life....and I want him removed. (Do you know someone who could do it?)
You gotta be careful who you are talking to when you ask, "Do you know someone who could do it?" @stickguy is from Jersey so he could be looking for someone to rub out you SIL. Since you made the request in here, we could all be involved in this. Maybe you should choose your words better, otherwise our poster buddy @roadburner may have to find someone to defend you and maybe even all of us since we had prior knowledge of what was being asked.
My defense will be my computer glitched that day
jmonroe
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My grandson is also 14. Since I have not been in his life for 10 years, this 3 day visit will be more of an introduction for both of us. He knows I am his father’s Dad and understands that concept. I would love to sit with him for a few hours to determine his differentiation between literal and figurative communication - also to determine his ability to pick up visual facial clues.
It appears from your comments, xwesx, that you are extremely adept at dealing with your son’s communication and social interaction skills deficits and continue to work hard at modeling those skills so vital in effectively teaching him communication and survival strategies in this social society. I am envious of you.
At least my grandson is high functioning, intellectually but not verbally, which is helpful in his learning regimen. I hope some of my advanced knowledge and significant experiences in the education of autistic and communication disordered children will assist me in hitting it off with my own flesh and blood - my grandson!
I hope that for you as well! Such relationships are so valuable.
And, I wouldn't say that I am "extremely adept." I tend to be fairly analytical, so I just try to be practical about acting on my observations and conclusions. ASD is such a tricky "disorder" because that spectrum can manifest itself in so many ways; each child is different in how the condition affects them and what approaches get through. He visited several professionals when he was very young, and they all had their opinions about how best to parent them, but honestly I just felt like they were trying to make us into their personal marionettes. I appreciated the information as I gained more respect for the depth of the challenges I had to deal with day to day (which often times were just annoying/frustrating to me in the context of a "normal child"), so it wasn't all a loss there.
My son is very strong on verbal communication - he was speaking full sentences at fifteen months - but he also doesn't know when to zip it. I think he's starting to learn that now, slowly, but it puts up a major barrier to communicating with others (perhaps ironically?) because they don't want to listen to him blather on about every detail of some topic of interest to him without ever being able to get a word in edgewise! It is a particular barrier with his age group, and it doesn't help that he's typically smarter than five of them together, so his interests don't align either. It's tricky for him....
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Driver, if you really need to sever ties, I would lay out the reasons, in a nice factual list, and meet privately with your daughter to explain exactly why you are doing it. And tell her you are happy to see her, just without him. Would be interesting to see how she reacts. Defend him, thinking you are wrong? Or knowing you are right but not wanting to admit it.
@driver100 Head scratcher. I honestly cannot follow any reasonable logic that would lead them to think that taking your car was the best course of action. I mean, if having a white MB was the most prudent step for them to take to meet that need, WHY could they not have simply used your daughter's car?! As you noted, a rental is always an option for situations like that. It baffles me that somehow them playing musical cars (between themselves) was not a viable plan, but that going through the trouble to literally take your car was such a clear and obvious choice. Wow....
It seems like your actions so far are the most reasonable approach: You made it quite clear that they leaped over a line there, and they are not welcome to do so again. In fact, you set the line a lot closer to their side of the court just to drive home that point. I'm not sure how or if you can break through that strong sense of entitlement in one-or-both of them, but my approach would be to let bygones be bygones at this point and keep an open mind for what comes next.
I have had nearly all of my siblings and siblings-in-law do something of a similar scale as this. They know what they did, and they have to live with it. I don't bring it up and don't let it play into our future interactions, but they also darn sure know that they'll never do it again or ask me for another favor unless they figure out a way to make amends now (in some cases this means a decade or two down the road from when it occurred....). Overall, I much prefer to have the relationship than worry/fume over what was lost.
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Mike, you can divorce a SIL or DIL easily. Problem is, your kid usually goes to. So have to decide what’s more important.
Here is the problem stick. 80 to 90% of people are pretty honest and decent. That is what makes civilization work. Otherwise, we couldn't leave our house, business wouldn't trust businesses to pay for goods. When you get a con man involved, he knows the buttons to push that make you believe him. If she believes him, and doesn't believe us, then she has to make her choices.....I can't force her to realize he is a con man....she has to find out, and I will try to prove it to her......then she can make the decision. All I know is I want nothing to do with him.......life is good, and he is the only negative in my life....and I want him removed. (Do you know someone who could do it?)
You gotta be careful who you are talking to when you ask, "Do you know someone who could do it?" @stickguy is from Jersey so he could be looking for someone to rub out you SIL. Since you made the request in here, we could all be involved in this. . My defense will be my computer glitched that day jmonroe
I thought about that after I wrote " he is the only negative in my life....and I want him removed. (Do you know someone who could do it?)"
Then I thought, wouldn't it be funny if he did get knocked off and someone realized I wrote that. Then I would be posting from jail, but at least no more scamster in my life.
Maybe, @driver100 , you could get a court order barring him from your property.
I would tread carefully, though, on severing relations with your daughter.
I'd rather him try to get in again and then call the police that he was breaking and entering. In fact, I shouldn't tell him I changed the security code.
Driver, if you really need to sever ties, I would lay out the reasons, in a nice factual list, and meet privately with your daughter to explain exactly why you are doing it. And tell her you are happy to see her, just without him. Would be interesting to see how she reacts. Defend him, thinking you are wrong? Or knowing you are right but not wanting to admit it.
You always amaze me stick with your common sense. That is an excellent plan and that will be plan B for sure. The last time daughter emailed her mother she said we will sit down when you get back..........if that gets arranged might as well do it, if not, I would go with your plan.....which technically is better, but, there is a reason I think it is better if she initiates it.
The reason being....I said something very powerful in my email to her....I said he will mysteriously find his licence very shortly because I know him, and he won't want to apply for his license, health card, credit cards again (since he doesn't do much work anyway). Within a few days he will find his wallet. I said I have heard his stories and excuses over the years, so I know how it works. He did find it the next day. That is the first shred of evidence she actually knows about now.....so, I want to see what happens.
Driver, if you really need to sever ties, I would lay out the reasons, in a nice factual list, and meet privately with your daughter to explain exactly why you are doing it. And tell her you are happy to see her, just without him. Would be interesting to see how she reacts. Defend him, thinking you are wrong? Or knowing you are right but not wanting to admit it.
That always backfires, stick. Putting your daughter in the position of choosing her father and mother over her husband is, at the very least, problematic.
WTH someone would go out to play tennis at 0730 after being up for 22 hours escapes me.
Probably trying to show us that tennis guys are tough but we know better. How hard is it to run around in shorts for an hour or two?
BTW, happy anniversary jmonroe, now over 50 and still one step ahead of Mrs. j around the dining room table.
jmonroe
Happy 50th.....and I hope next year Mrs JM catches you!
50 was last year.
You can forget about her ever catching me. If I have to I'll stop short and let her run me over, then I'll start running in the other direction before she gets back on her feet. Good plan, huh?
xwesx, Great post for a few reasons. First though, yes, he could have rented a car but the thing about the S-I-L is, he is incompetent. Our daughter leaves early in the morning and travels about 30 miles out of town for work. Maybe she was going to take the Lexus that day so he could pick up his mother in the Mercedes, that is what they usually do....though if we were here my good hearted wife usually takes his mother for the once a month eye appointment. He probably had an appointment for 11 with his 2008 Lexus, and thought they could fix it right away, but, when they told him it would take a day he only had a bit of time to find a white Mercedes GLK.
He wouldn't rent a car or take a taxi....won't spend money on things like that. Will spend $500 to go to a hockey game though.
It was a great post because you said the best approach is to let bygones be bygones. That is what I have done for about 5 years now even though he scammed us and others through our business. But, this was the final straw.....it is impossible to let bygones be bygones when someone like this who has no conscience basically steals your car. Once you let it go he will do something again....it means nothing to him, the end justifies the means as far as he is concerned.
If there is a small misunderstanding, I would agree, try to let it go, it isn't worth the aggravation, and sometimes a small thing gets blown out of proportion.
I would definitely try that first, but, I tried it for 5 years and then he pulls this whopper and thinks nothing of it.
What if I woke up with a tooth ache and my car wouldn't start? Would I go to his house and take his car? Geez, I can't imagine someone even thinking of doing it. Rent a car, take a cab, call a friend......if he could get to his mothers in a taxi he could have used her car.
Driver, if you really need to sever ties, I would lay out the reasons, in a nice factual list, and meet privately with your daughter to explain exactly why you are doing it. And tell her you are happy to see her, just without him. Would be interesting to see how she reacts. Defend him, thinking you are wrong? Or knowing you are right but not wanting to admit it.
That always backfires, stick. Putting your daughter in the position of choosing her father and mother over her husband is, at the very least, problematic.
I like sticks method. I like to present the facts as honestly as I can. Then the daughter can make her choice. That way I have done everything I possibly can do....if she still wants to believe the con man, or abuser, or good for nothing loser, then that is her choice....I won't like it, but, I can only do what I can do.
JM...congrats to you and your wife on the wedding anniversary.
Driver.....WOW! I think I would have a long, sincere and stern chat with the SIL. That’s wrong on so many levels. Your car, regardless of his relationship to you. To me, that’s a “no-no”! And, no one an blame you if you tell him in no uncertain terms how you feel.
But, this was the final straw.....it is impossible to let bygones be bygones when someone like this who has no conscience basically steals your car. Once you let it go he will do something again....it means nothing to him, the end justifies the means as far as he is concerned.
If there is a small misunderstanding, I would agree, try to let it go, it isn't worth the aggravation, and sometimes a small thing gets blown out of proportion.
I agree; with that much history, he has pretty much said loud and clear that he has no respect for you as people; you're only another means for him. This is definitely that strong sense of entitlement I noted. It is like customers throwing an all-out tantrum with a customer service rep in a store, or a dog chasing cars. As long as you let them get away with it, they're just encouraged to keep doing it.
Case in point: I used to get into arguments with my wife because she didn't (perhaps still doesn't) like my driving policy of not stopping/swerving for dogs that run out into the road to chase cars. I'll slow for them, but I won't stop, and I won't swerve. We had lots of "near misses" over the years with the dogs gaining just enough sense to avert collision at the last moment. Then, a new neighbor moved in a few houses up from me with a dog that was unbelievably belligerent about car chasing, to the point that one morning one of my other neighbors almost swerved into me as I left the area for work because that dog leapt out at them and they tried to avoid it.
A few days later, we're driving home and the dog jumps out at us. I was going about fifteen. I hit it, dog bounces off the bumper, screams bloody murder, and runs away. My wife was infuriated with me at first. Later, I checked with the owners to inform them of the strike for awareness, but the dog was fine.
Never again did it chase a car. I was happy, wife was happy, and dog was happy (and alive).
Sounds like it's time to break your SIL of his sense of entitlement, and I think you might need to work with HIS parents so you all come out ahead. Tricky situation, though, so proceed slowly and, whatever you do, don't swerve.
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My grandson is also 14. Since I have not been in his life for 10 years, this 3 day visit will be more of an introduction for both of us. He knows I am his father’s Dad and understands that concept. I would love to sit with him for a few hours to determine his differentiation between literal and figurative communication - also to determine his ability to pick up visual facial clues.
It appears from your comments, xwesx, that you are extremely adept at dealing with your son’s communication and social interaction skills deficits and continue to work hard at modeling those skills so vital in effectively teaching him communication and survival strategies in this social society. I am envious of you.
At least my grandson is high functioning, intellectually but not verbally, which is helpful in his learning regimen. I hope some of my advanced knowledge and significant experiences in the education of autistic and communication disordered children will assist me in hitting it off with my own flesh and blood - my grandson!
I hope that for you as well! Such relationships are so valuable.
And, I wouldn't say that I am "extremely adept." I tend to be fairly analytical, so I just try to be practical about acting on my observations and conclusions. ASD is such a tricky "disorder" because that spectrum can manifest itself in so many ways; each child is different in how the condition affects them and what approaches get through. He visited several professionals when he was very young, and they all had their opinions about how best to parent them, but honestly I just felt like they were trying to make us into their personal marionettes. I appreciated the information as I gained more respect for the depth of the challenges I had to deal with day to day (which often times were just annoying/frustrating to me in the context of a "normal child"), so it wasn't all a loss there.
My son is very strong on verbal communication - he was speaking full sentences at fifteen months - but he also doesn't know when to zip it. I think he's starting to learn that now, slowly, but it puts up a major barrier to communicating with others (perhaps ironically?) because they don't want to listen to him blather on about every detail of some topic of interest to him without ever being able to get a word in edgewise! It is a particular barrier with his age group, and it doesn't help that he's typically smarter than five of them together, so his interests don't align either. It's tricky for him....
I am quite familiar with the repetitive and unending dissertation that my grandson utilizes in his communications with me on the phone - similar but not exactly perseveration. Last year, I called him for his birthday, as I always do. He thanked me and almost instantaneously went into quite a precise dissertation on the possibility of life on other planets or in our galaxy. He described, in detail, what his spaceship would look like and the supplies it would have to have on board in order to prove his “hypothesis” (his word, not mine) that life exists out there in the far reaches of space (his words, not mine).
After about 25 minutes of this on the phone, I had to stop him and asked to speak with his mother. Whew!!!
My son does not have the patience needed to work with my grandson as you do. He concentrates more on the 17 year old boy who is on his way to college on several scholarships. His mother is even worse, which was the major cause of his divorce. They have shared custody, but that environment is not a healthy one for the boy. Whatever time my son has after his 12 hour work days shortchanged his youngest son because he devotes so much time and energy for the older son.
That’s why I am so keen on spending three straight days with my youngest grandson.
I noticed on the itinerary from American Airlines that the two of them were not seated together on the first leg of their flight home. So I called my son to inform him that I would pay for the preferred seating on that flight so they could sit together. Having Aspergers, I thought that sitting next to two strangers in his row of seating might be too stressful for him. So they are now seated together on that flight.
Thanks all for your patience on this long post. My apologies.
I am quite familiar with the repetitive and unending dissertation that my grandson utilizes in his communications with me on the phone - similar but not exactly perseveration. Last year, I called him for his birthday, as I always do. He thanked me and almost instantaneously went into quite a precise dissertation on the possibility of life on other planets or in our galaxy. He described, in detail, what his spaceship would look like and the supplies it would have to have on board in order to prove his “hypothesis” (his word, not mine) that life exists out there in the far reaches of space (his words, not mine).
After about 25 minutes of this on the phone, I had to stop him and asked to speak with his mother. Whew!!!
My son does not have the patience needed to work with my grandson as you do. He concentrates more on the 17 year old boy who is on his way to college on several scholarships. His mother is even worse, which was the major cause of his divorce. They have shared custody, but that environment is not a healthy one for the boy. Whatever time my son has after his 12 hour work days shortchanged his youngest son because he devotes so much time and energy for the older son.
That’s why I am so keen on spending three straight days with my youngest grandson.
I noticed on the itinerary from American Airlines that the two of them were not seated together on the first leg of their flight home. So I called my son to inform him that I would pay for the preferred seating on that flight so they could sit together. Having Aspergers, I thought that sitting next to two strangers in his row of seating might be too stressful for him. So they are now seated together on that flight.
Thanks all for your patience on this long post. My apologies.
After reading the first paragraph, I was going to click the "LOL" button because you had me chuckling to myself about that "conversation."
However, you sobered me right up with what followed! I will admit that I had days like that. However, I also have an incredible wife who has given so much more to our son than most of us would ever give to all our children, let alone just one. She has certainly had the most positive impact on him; I just add my parts where I can. I don't always agree with her methods, and she rarely agrees with mine, but together we get it done.
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My grandson is also 14. Since I have not been in his life for 10 years, this 3 day visit will be more of an introduction for both of us. He knows I am his father’s Dad and understands that concept. I would love to sit with him for a few hours to determine his differentiation between literal and figurative communication - also to determine his ability to pick up visual facial clues.
It appears from your comments, xwesx, that you are extremely adept at dealing with your son’s communication and social interaction skills deficits and continue to work hard at modeling those skills so vital in effectively teaching him communication and survival strategies in this social society. I am envious of you.
At least my grandson is high functioning, intellectually but not verbally, which is helpful in his learning regimen. I hope some of my advanced knowledge and significant experiences in the education of autistic and communication disordered children will assist me in hitting it off with my own flesh and blood - my grandson!
I hope that for you as well! Such relationships are so valuable.
And, I wouldn't say that I am "extremely adept." I tend to be fairly analytical, so I just try to be practical about acting on my observations and conclusions. ASD is such a tricky "disorder" because that spectrum can manifest itself in so many ways; each child is different in how the condition affects them and what approaches get through. He visited several professionals when he was very young, and they all had their opinions about how best to parent them, but honestly I just felt like they were trying to make us into their personal marionettes. I appreciated the information as I gained more respect for the depth of the challenges I had to deal with day to day (which often times were just annoying/frustrating to me in the context of a "normal child"), so it wasn't all a loss there.
My son is very strong on verbal communication - he was speaking full sentences at fifteen months - but he also doesn't know when to zip it. I think he's starting to learn that now, slowly, but it puts up a major barrier to communicating with others (perhaps ironically?) because they don't want to listen to him blather on about every detail of some topic of interest to him without ever being able to get a word in edgewise! It is a particular barrier with his age group, and it doesn't help that he's typically smarter than five of them together, so his interests don't align either. It's tricky for him....
I am quite familiar with the repetitive and unending dissertation that my grandson utilizes in his communications with me on the phone - similar but not exactly perseveration. Last year, I called him for his birthday, as I always do. He thanked me and almost instantaneously went into quite a precise dissertation on the possibility of life on other planets or in our galaxy. He described, in detail, what his spaceship would look like and the supplies it would have to have on board in order to prove his “hypothesis” (his word, not mine) that life exists out there in the far reaches of space (his words, not mine).
After about 25 minutes of this on the phone, I had to stop him and asked to speak with his mother. Whew!!!
My son does not have the patience needed to work with my grandson as you do. He concentrates more on the 17 year old boy who is on his way to college on several scholarships. His mother is even worse, which was the major cause of his divorce. They have shared custody, but that environment is not a healthy one for the boy. Whatever time my son has after his 12 hour work days shortchanged his youngest son because he devotes so much time and energy for the older son.
That’s why I am so keen on spending three straight days with my youngest grandson.
I noticed on the itinerary from American Airlines that the two of them were not seated together on the first leg of their flight home. So I called my son to inform him that I would pay for the preferred seating on that flight so they could sit together. Having Aspergers, I thought that sitting next to two strangers in his row of seating might be too stressful for him. So they are now seated together on that flight.
Thanks all for your patience on this long post. My apologies.
Don't worry about our patience, we can take it. Glad both you and @xwesx are comfortable in letting it out in here.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Don't worry about our patience, we can take it. Glad both you and @xwesx are comfortable in letting it out in here. jmonroe
Here I go, agreeing with Monroe again. But, I give anyone who raises children who have a disability such as Aspergers a lot of credit. I found it difficult enough to cope with life just trying to get through with children who didn't have a real disability. I'd find it difficult just trying to get myself through life.
But seriously, you people deserve a lot of credit. I understand raising these children can be a very frustrating, but rewarding experience.
Family sh.. - most every honest person will tell you they have experienced some. Basically though, you may just have to roll with some of it if you want to keep good relations with your daughter. Generally, I think you will be glad you didn't sever them when on your deathbed unless she has become truly awful to you, your wife and the rest of your family. That's my two cents (US currency please ) and it may not be worth that!
Yesterday we took the Wrangler on a short trip to a picnic. I still enjoy driving it; it cruises just fine at 65-70, but the wind noise is pretty loud. And of course fuel economy isn't that great. Still, my wife is still thinking she will get a two door JK or JL once my new job starts. She liked our 1993 Pathfinder SE and I know that the J-if not the JK- is probably at least as civilized as the Nissan. I think I've mentioned before that the only problem with the JL is the fact that it would definitely have to be ordered. Most of the dealers that I have checked either don't have any two doors or either they are all base models with no options or fully loaded Rubicons.
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I am always looking on my TV cable guide for interesting or exciting things to watch. I have not been terribly successful with a few exceptions like “Atypical” on Netflix, “The Incredible Dr. Pol” on NatGeoWild, “Yellowstone” on the Paramount Channel, “Shooter” on USA, etc. But it just came to me - as I was reading driver100’s posts about his SIL - I would love to produce a 16 episode TV series for one of the major cable networks entitled, “Steve Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”!
It takes place in this third world country called Canada where it is so cold 5-6 months of the year that well-to-do citizens travel south for the winter. While Steve and his lovely spouse are away for the winter, Steve’s son-in-law takes up illegal residency in his expensive house in a suburban Toronto community. He drives Steve’s expensive Mercedes, orders X-rated movies from Steve’s cable company, throws lavish late night parties, and even sleeps in Steve’s bed.
One day, a Toronto neighbor of Steve’s calls Steve in his warm climate winter residence and tells Steve all about the goings on at his home in the hinterlands. Steve finds out it’s his lousy SIL. This ire’s Steve to such an extent that he finally decides to rid the world of this menace!
The 15 episodes that follow are all about how Steve succeeds in his quest for an end to his miserable SIL’s existence.
There you have it - art imitating life in all its glory!
I am always looking on my TV cable guide for interesting or exciting things to watch. I have not been terribly successful with a few exceptions like “Atypical” on Netflix, “The Incredible Dr. Pol” on NatGeoWild, “Yellowstone” on the Paramount Channel, “Shooter” on USA, etc. But it just came to me - as I was reading driver100’s posts about his SIL - I would love to produce a 16 episode TV series for one of the major cable networks entitled, “Steve Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”!
It takes place in this third world country called Canada where it is so cold 5-6 months of the year that well-to-do citizens travel south for the winter. While Steve and his lovely spouse are away for the winter, Steve’s son-in-law takes up illegal residency in his expensive house in a suburban Toronto community. He drives Steve’s expensive Mercedes, orders X-rated movies from Steve’s cable company, throws lavish late night parties, and even sleeps in Steve’s bed.
One day, a Toronto neighbor of Steve’s calls Steve in his warm climate winter residence and tells Steve all about the goings on at his home in the hinterlands. Steve finds out it’s his lousy SIL. This ire’s Steve to such an extent that he finally decides to rid the world of this menace!
The 15 episodes that follow are all about how Steve succeeds in his quest for an end to his miserable SIL’s existence.
There you have it - art imitating life in all its glory!
if we don't change anything in the fleet in the near term, I need to see how fast can pay off the Elantra. Been a while since we had all the cars paid off at one time. But we used to do it. Before the kids hit college!
Took out a 5 year loan. Could have done 3 instead probably, certainly 4. So just need to double up payments to get it done in two.
A guy at work bought a 2013 low mile Elantra to do Lyft and Uber. This week his daughter rear ended two cars while texting at 55 mph. Daughter ok but two other parties injured. Car totaled.
While he had it he loved the car. I'm guessing his feelings for his daughter are mixed at this point.
He'd better hope his/her insurance doesn't cap out, what with injuries at play here.
He says he has substantial insurance but you're right, with PI you never know what the settlement will be. My father got sued for a million from an accident that resulted in a chipped tooth. I think most lawyers sue for policy limits.
The good thing is that if you carry a high insurance limit the company supplies your lawyer.
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I am always looking on my TV cable guide for interesting or exciting things to watch. I have not been terribly successful with a few exceptions like “Atypical” on Netflix, “The Incredible Dr. Pol” on NatGeoWild, “Yellowstone” on the Paramount Channel, “Shooter” on USA, etc. But it just came to me - as I was reading driver100’s posts about his SIL - I would love to produce a 16 episode TV series for one of the major cable networks entitled, “Steve Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”!
It takes place in this third world country called Canada where it is so cold 5-6 months of the year that well-to-do citizens travel south for the winter. While Steve and his lovely spouse are away for the winter, Steve’s son-in-law takes up illegal residency in his expensive house in a suburban Toronto community. He drives Steve’s expensive Mercedes, orders X-rated movies from Steve’s cable company, throws lavish late night parties, and even sleeps in Steve’s bed.
One day, a Toronto neighbor of Steve’s calls Steve in his warm climate winter residence and tells Steve all about the goings on at his home in the hinterlands. Steve finds out it’s his lousy SIL. This ire’s Steve to such an extent that he finally decides to rid the world of this menace!
The 15 episodes that follow are all about how Steve succeeds in his quest for an end to his miserable SIL’s existence.
There you have it - art imitating life in all its glory!
I never knew @driver100 had a twin named Steve.
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If I titled the series, “Driver100 Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”, potential viewers would scratch their head and decide to watch “JEOPARDY” instead! Alex Trebek sounds more interesting than “driver100”!
I thought I was bad. My car just broke 5,500 miles. In just about 9 months. Though the daughter taking it has added some. And the 3 weeks commuting before she moves and gets her own car will run it up, since that is about 90 miles/day. Plus whatever other running around she does, so at least 1,500 miles. Ouch.
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Yesterday we took the Wrangler on a short trip to a picnic. I still enjoy driving it; it cruises just fine at 65-70, but the wind noise is pretty loud. And of course fuel economy isn't that great. Still, my wife is still thinking she will get a two door JK or JL once my new job starts. She liked our 1993 Pathfinder SE and I know that the J-if not the JK- is probably at least as civilized as the Nissan. I think I've mentioned before that the only problem with the JL is the fact that it would definitely have to be ordered. Most of the dealers that I have checked either don't have any two doors or either they are all base models with no options or fully loaded Rubicons.
I'm not sure if you have driven a more recent model (hard to believe that yours is ~20 years old!!!), but looks is about the only thing they have in common with those of yester-years! If nothing else, much, much quieter than in the past.
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I am always looking on my TV cable guide for interesting or exciting things to watch. I have not been terribly successful with a few exceptions like “Atypical” on Netflix, “The Incredible Dr. Pol” on NatGeoWild, “Yellowstone” on the Paramount Channel, “Shooter” on USA, etc. But it just came to me - as I was reading driver100’s posts about his SIL - I would love to produce a 16 episode TV series for one of the major cable networks entitled, “Steve Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”!
It takes place in this third world country called Canada where it is so cold 5-6 months of the year that well-to-do citizens travel south for the winter. While Steve and his lovely spouse are away for the winter, Steve’s son-in-law takes up illegal residency in his expensive house in a suburban Toronto community. He drives Steve’s expensive Mercedes, orders X-rated movies from Steve’s cable company, throws lavish late night parties, and even sleeps in Steve’s bed.
One day, a Toronto neighbor of Steve’s calls Steve in his warm climate winter residence and tells Steve all about the goings on at his home in the hinterlands. Steve finds out it’s his lousy SIL. This ire’s Steve to such an extent that he finally decides to rid the world of this menace!
The 15 episodes that follow are all about how Steve succeeds in his quest for an end to his miserable SIL’s existence.
There you have it - art imitating life in all its glory!
as I was reading driver100’s posts about his SIL - I would love to produce a 16 episode TV series for one of the major cable networks entitled, “Steve Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”!
That is ingenious. Maybe the S-I-L could do some ads......like, when I take a relatives car, I always prefer to steal a Mercedes....that little GLK wasn't bad, but I'd like to get my hands on Steve's E400, unfortunately he took the keys to Florida with him.
as I was reading driver100’s posts about his SIL - I would love to produce a 16 episode TV series for one of the major cable networks entitled, “Steve Finally Deals With His Son-in-Law”!
That is ingenious. Maybe the S-I-L could do some ads......like, when I take a relatives car, I always prefer to steal a Mercedes....that little GLK wasn't bad, but I'd like to get my hands on Steve's E400, unfortunately he took the keys to Florida with him.
That’s funny stuff - I’ll put those ad ideas in my proposals to HBO, SHO, STARZ, USA, etc.
Family sh.. - most every honest person will tell you they have experienced some. Basically though, you may just have to roll with some of it if you want to keep good relations with your daughter. Generally, I think you will be glad you didn't sever them when on your deathbed unless she has become truly awful to you, your wife and the rest of your family. That's my two cents (US currency please ) and it may not be worth that!
Just to be clear....I wouldn't do the severing. I did have to use tough love on youngest daughter though. She was angry about something for a long time and we had a big difference of opinion about lifestyle and values etc., I think the key in her case was saying we could have different values, opinions etc., but, still love each other. We avoid those topics and it has worked well, and she has changed to become more mainstream - and I think enjoying life more with a good paying interesting job.
But, there comes a point to where kids will take advantage. They will act out so you will give in or give them something...usually money. Sometimes, you do have to draw the line and realize that they may just be using you. Hopefully it will never get to that point.
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Good luck getting compensation from an airline. I think they should give discounts on future flights for every delay, about $50 an hour for our time.
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Besides, if we aren't driving to and from Florida, I might get a C Class next time.
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My defense will be my computer glitched that day
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I would tread carefully, though, on severing relations with your daughter.
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And, I wouldn't say that I am "extremely adept." I tend to be fairly analytical, so I just try to be practical about acting on my observations and conclusions. ASD is such a tricky "disorder" because that spectrum can manifest itself in so many ways; each child is different in how the condition affects them and what approaches get through. He visited several professionals when he was very young, and they all had their opinions about how best to parent them, but honestly I just felt like they were trying to make us into their personal marionettes. I appreciated the information as I gained more respect for the depth of the challenges I had to deal with day to day (which often times were just annoying/frustrating to me in the context of a "normal child"), so it wasn't all a loss there.
My son is very strong on verbal communication - he was speaking full sentences at fifteen months - but he also doesn't know when to zip it. I think he's starting to learn that now, slowly, but it puts up a major barrier to communicating with others (perhaps ironically?) because they don't want to listen to him blather on about every detail of some topic of interest to him without ever being able to get a word in edgewise! It is a particular barrier with his age group, and it doesn't help that he's typically smarter than five of them together, so his interests don't align either. It's tricky for him....
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It seems like your actions so far are the most reasonable approach: You made it quite clear that they leaped over a line there, and they are not welcome to do so again. In fact, you set the line a lot closer to their side of the court just to drive home that point. I'm not sure how or if you can break through that strong sense of entitlement in one-or-both of them, but my approach would be to let bygones be bygones at this point and keep an open mind for what comes next.
I have had nearly all of my siblings and siblings-in-law do something of a similar scale as this. They know what they did, and they have to live with it. I don't bring it up and don't let it play into our future interactions, but they also darn sure know that they'll never do it again or ask me for another favor unless they figure out a way to make amends now (in some cases this means a decade or two down the road from when it occurred....). Overall, I much prefer to have the relationship than worry/fume over what was lost.
Then I thought, wouldn't it be funny if he did get knocked off and someone realized I wrote that. Then I would be posting from jail, but at least no more scamster in my life.
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The last time daughter emailed her mother she said we will sit down when you get back..........if that gets arranged might as well do it, if not, I would go with your plan.....which technically is better, but, there is a reason I think it is better if she initiates it.
The reason being....I said something very powerful in my email to her....I said he will mysteriously find his licence very shortly because I know him, and he won't want to apply for his license, health card, credit cards again (since he doesn't do much work anyway). Within a few days he will find his wallet. I said I have heard his stories and excuses over the years, so I know how it works. He did find it the next day. That is the first shred of evidence she actually knows about now.....so, I want to see what happens.
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First though, yes, he could have rented a car but the thing about the S-I-L is, he is incompetent. Our daughter leaves early in the morning and travels about 30 miles out of town for work. Maybe she was going to take the Lexus that day so he could pick up his mother in the Mercedes, that is what they usually do....though if we were here my good hearted wife usually takes his mother for the once a month eye appointment. He probably had an appointment for 11 with his 2008 Lexus, and thought they could fix it right away, but, when they told him it would take a day he only had a bit of time to find a white Mercedes GLK.
He wouldn't rent a car or take a taxi....won't spend money on things like that. Will spend $500 to go to a hockey game though.
It was a great post because you said the best approach is to let bygones be bygones. That is what I have done for about 5 years now even though he scammed us and others through our business. But, this was the final straw.....it is impossible to let bygones be bygones when someone like this who has no conscience basically steals your car. Once you let it go he will do something again....it means nothing to him, the end justifies the means as far as he is concerned.
If there is a small misunderstanding, I would agree, try to let it go, it isn't worth the aggravation, and sometimes a small thing gets blown out of proportion.
I would definitely try that first, but, I tried it for 5 years and then he pulls this whopper and thinks nothing of it.
What if I woke up with a tooth ache and my car wouldn't start? Would I go to his house and take his car? Geez, I can't imagine someone even thinking of doing it. Rent a car, take a cab, call a friend......if he could get to his mothers in a taxi he could have used her car.
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I like sticks method. I like to present the facts as honestly as I can. Then the daughter can make her choice. That way I have done everything I possibly can do....if she still wants to believe the con man, or abuser, or good for nothing loser, then that is her choice....I won't like it, but, I can only do what I can do.
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Driver.....WOW! I think I would have a long, sincere and stern chat with the SIL. That’s wrong on so many levels. Your car, regardless of his relationship to you. To me, that’s a “no-no”! And, no one an blame you if you tell him in no uncertain terms how you feel.
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Case in point: I used to get into arguments with my wife because she didn't (perhaps still doesn't) like my driving policy of not stopping/swerving for dogs that run out into the road to chase cars. I'll slow for them, but I won't stop, and I won't swerve. We had lots of "near misses" over the years with the dogs gaining just enough sense to avert collision at the last moment. Then, a new neighbor moved in a few houses up from me with a dog that was unbelievably belligerent about car chasing, to the point that one morning one of my other neighbors almost swerved into me as I left the area for work because that dog leapt out at them and they tried to avoid it.
A few days later, we're driving home and the dog jumps out at us. I was going about fifteen. I hit it, dog bounces off the bumper, screams bloody murder, and runs away. My wife was infuriated with me at first. Later, I checked with the owners to inform them of the strike for awareness, but the dog was fine.
Never again did it chase a car. I was happy, wife was happy, and dog was happy (and alive).
Sounds like it's time to break your SIL of his sense of entitlement, and I think you might need to work with HIS parents so you all come out ahead. Tricky situation, though, so proceed slowly and, whatever you do, don't swerve.
After about 25 minutes of this on the phone, I had to stop him and asked to speak with his mother. Whew!!!
My son does not have the patience needed to work with my grandson as you do. He concentrates more on the 17 year old boy who is on his way to college on several scholarships. His mother is even worse, which was the major cause of his divorce. They have shared custody, but that environment is not a healthy one for the boy. Whatever time my son has after his 12 hour work days shortchanged his youngest son because he devotes so much time and energy for the older son.
That’s why I am so keen on spending three straight days with my youngest grandson.
I noticed on the itinerary from American Airlines that the two of them were not seated together on the first leg of their flight home. So I called my son to inform him that I would pay for the preferred seating on that flight so they could sit together. Having Aspergers, I thought that sitting next to two strangers in his row of seating might be too stressful for him. So they are now seated together on that flight.
Thanks all for your patience on this long post. My apologies.
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However, you sobered me right up with what followed! I will admit that I had days like that. However, I also have an incredible wife who has given so much more to our son than most of us would ever give to all our children, let alone just one. She has certainly had the most positive impact on him; I just add my parts where I can. I don't always agree with her methods, and she rarely agrees with mine, but together we get it done.
After about 25 minutes of this on the phone, I had to stop him and asked to speak with his mother. Whew!!!
My son does not have the patience needed to work with my grandson as you do. He concentrates more on the 17 year old boy who is on his way to college on several scholarships. His mother is even worse, which was the major cause of his divorce. They have shared custody, but that environment is not a healthy one for the boy. Whatever time my son has after his 12 hour work days shortchanged his youngest son because he devotes so much time and energy for the older son.
That’s why I am so keen on spending three straight days with my youngest grandson.
I noticed on the itinerary from American Airlines that the two of them were not seated together on the first leg of their flight home. So I called my son to inform him that I would pay for the preferred seating on that flight so they could sit together. Having Aspergers, I thought that sitting next to two strangers in his row of seating might be too stressful for him. So they are now seated together on that flight.
Thanks all for your patience on this long post. My apologies.
Don't worry about our patience, we can take it. Glad both you and @xwesx are comfortable in letting it out in here.
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Here I go, agreeing with Monroe again. But, I give anyone who raises children who have a disability such as Aspergers a lot of credit. I found it difficult enough to cope with life just trying to get through with children who didn't have a real disability. I'd find it difficult just trying to get myself through life.
But seriously, you people deserve a lot of credit. I understand raising these children can be a very frustrating, but rewarding experience.
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It takes place in this third world country called Canada where it is so cold 5-6 months of the year that well-to-do citizens travel south for the winter. While Steve and his lovely spouse are away for the winter, Steve’s son-in-law takes up illegal residency in his expensive house in a suburban Toronto community. He drives Steve’s expensive Mercedes, orders X-rated movies from Steve’s cable company, throws lavish late night parties, and even sleeps in Steve’s bed.
One day, a Toronto neighbor of Steve’s calls Steve in his warm climate winter residence and tells Steve all about the goings on at his home in the hinterlands. Steve finds out it’s his lousy SIL. This ire’s Steve to such an extent that he finally decides to rid the world of this menace!
The 15 episodes that follow are all about how Steve succeeds in his quest for an end to his miserable SIL’s existence.
There you have it - art imitating life in all its glory!
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jmonroe
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The good thing is that if you carry a high insurance limit the company supplies your lawyer.
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YOU GOT DRUNK AND ATE A DOG?!!!
How could you?
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But, there comes a point to where kids will take advantage. They will act out so you will give in or give them something...usually money. Sometimes, you do have to draw the line and realize that they may just be using you. Hopefully it will never get to that point.
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