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snakeweasel

Mr_Shiftright said:

@driver100, that is bordering on TMI.... .

No, it would be TMI if I didn't wear clothing while on the telephone.

@driver100, that is bordering on TMI.... .

No, it would be TMI if I didn't wear clothing while on the telephone.

Well, how do we know what you're wearing (or not wearing), when you type on your computer?

Oh, didn't you know. Edmunds utilizes vido surveillance.

So is Edmund's surveilling the Greek island or the Italian soccer player?

bwia

Farewell to Aretha Franklin. Did anyone catch the 100+ pink Cadillac motorcade at her funeral. I didn't see them but that is a lot of pink and free promotion for GM.

imidazol97

130! 
I imagine GM haters have heartburn.
AND almost all vehicles I  the parade of stars are GM.

They sure weren't using Honda's and toyota's that I saw. There were some Bentley or other cats for a few.

Lol

jmonroe

imidazol97 said:

130! 
I imagine GM haters have heartburn.
AND almost all vehicles I  the parade of stars are GM.

They sure weren't using Honda's and toyota's that I saw. There were some Bentley or other cats for a few.

Lol

Are you sure about the Bentley thingy? From a distance, I know of a car that has a similar badge. Since you weren't there, can you really be sure?

jmonroe

explorerx4

Ford is definitely taking some risks.
I don't think the gas issue is going to be huge because electrification as a supplement or the propulsion itself is getting more mainstream.
I don't know about anyone else, but 10 years ago I had an mid size SUV that got 16 mpg.
Now I have a full size pickup truck with 50% more HP/Torque that, so far, gets 20% better mileage.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

full time WFH is really easy to get hooked on. Especially if you aren't someone that has to always be interacting with people.

I've been working from home since 1984. That was way before it became fashionable. Farmers are frequently eary adapters.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

The Mustang is the only Ford vehicle I'd ever consider owning, so Ford's strategy is fine with me.

When we were moving all those X3s yesterday there were two M240is in the same lot. As we pulled key after key I hoped that one of them would go to the M. No such luck.

Sticker was $51k.

oldfarmer50

tbirdmarco said:

 Good morning everybody, happy Friday enjoy the nice long weekend all. Going upstate to visit my older brother later on today. 

Hey, if you're in the Troy area tomorrow morning, swing by the farmers' market and say hi. I'm next to the bread guys.

iluvmysephia1

The Car Connection just released an article today saying that Ford is punting the idea of selling the 2020 Ford Focus Easy in the U.S. (built in China). That's the only Ford I would buy. 

They said that the reason for not bringing it here is because of the Trump tariffs.

driver100

Michaell said:

driver100 said:

carnaught said:

@driver100, that is bordering on TMI.... .

No, it would be TMI if I didn't wear clothing while on the telephone.

driver100 said:

carnaught said:

@driver100, that is bordering on TMI.... .

No, it would be TMI if I didn't wear clothing while on the telephone.

Well, how do we know what you're wearing (or not wearing), when you type on your computer?

Edmunds is not the same as a customer....and that is all I am going to say

(except sometimes leather feels very cold)

driver100

1940 Cadillac Lasalle;
\

They said dozens of pink Cadillacs but I only see a few........and, where do these pink Caddies come from....Mary Kay?

https://youtu.be/YZQVNS7M3eo

roadburner

Well, now I can't log on using Chrome; Firefox works fine. I enter my email and PW on Chrome and the sign in box just sits there...

iluvmysephia1

Hey, roadburner, that same 2013 Ford Focus ST 6-speed turbo in Tangerine Scream paint is being offered for sale at a used car dealer here in Alamogordo. They want a thou more at $12,500 and they list the mileage as 51,500, instead of 61,500.

driver100

Iluv....something fishy going on. And, why would you take a picture of it on a vacant lot from the inside of the car you are in?

abacomike

driver100 said:

1940 Cadillac Lasalle; \ They said dozens of pink Cadillacs but I only see a few........and, where do these pink Caddies come from....Mary Kay? https://youtu.be/YZQVNS7M3eo

Nope - pink caddies are usually found on the women’s PGA tour! 

abacomike

explorerx4 said:

Ford is definitely taking some risks. I don't think the gas issue is going to be huge because electrification as a supplement or the propulsion itself is getting more mainstream. I don't know about anyone else, but 10 years ago I had an mid size SUV that got 16 mpg. Now I have a full size pickup truck with 50% more HP/Torque that, so far, gets 20% better mileage.

It’s amazing to me how quickly the automobile and SUV/truck manufacturers have been able to almost double horsepower and torque in their engines while at the same time almost double mpg’s in the past 7-10 years.  I have a small V6 engine (3.0 L) that produces 362 hp with 369 lb.ft. of torque and consistently gets 32 mpg’s on the highway and 23 mpg’s average.  Add to that 0-60 in 5.2 seconds in a 4600 pound car.

10 years ago the above stats would be unbelievable to most people.

abacomike

berri said:

Sometimes I have to wonder if Washington really knows what they are doing lately? They all kind of seem over their heads and out of touch with reality.

LATELY?  

berri

Pink Cadillac's - remember Mary Kay cosmetics?

The auto writer at Detroit's Free Press newspaper wrote a piece that says the issue with Ford really boils down to stale products falling further behind the competition.

bwia

Pink Cadillacs of all vintages came out to bid Aretha adieu.

imidazol97

This morning the live view on bounce showed overhead photos of the grand church and the rows of Pink Cadillacs parked filling the street. The number I heard was 130+. From overhead they looked like sedans as well as XR5's other SUVs by Cadillac.

driver100 said:

They said dozens of pink Cadillacs but I only see a few........and, where do these pink Caddies come from....Mary Kay?

Do a search on yahoo.com or duckduckgo or dogpile for pink cadillac. I found lots of pictures of the end of the rows,3 or 4, of Cadillacs parked end-to-end along 7 Mile.

I searched for the Channel 7 helicopter shot they were doing which showed the rows from overhead. There easily were 130 that was claimed. All types. But I can't find that. It was shown on Bounce which was doing the funeral live.

From what I saw this morning it appeared those were individuals driving their pink Cadillacs to the funeral. One had Texas plates.

My wife watched part of the beginning on Bounce. It was like watching the Oscars and Emmys: how bad can it get.

Much as I love Aretha (I'm tired of Soultown XM playing All Aretha, All the time), there's a matter of sensibility. I can't make it much clearer than that. 7 hours? I have lots of respict for her, but there is common sense.

Just cremate me and spread my ashes over the family grave in Saratoga. My son doesn't want to do that. He doesn't know what he's in for.

imidazol97

Watch the video in the report.
Let's try this:
https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/1310903363598/?jwsource=cl

EDIT:
Jackpot. Found an overhead view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pkvleAA86w

bwia

Now, that is a vintage Cadillac. I wouldn't mind being buried in one of those

driver100

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

1940 Cadillac Lasalle;
\

They said dozens of pink Cadillacs but I only see a few........and, where do these pink Caddies come from....Mary Kay?

https://youtu.be/YZQVNS7M3eo

Nope - pink caddies are usually found on the women’s PGA tour! 

Thanks for clarifying........I was curious. I assume they get painted when no longer needed, and then are sold. Maybe they would make for a good used car.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

Watch the video in the report.
Let's try this:
https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/1310903363598/?jwsource=cl

EDIT:
Jackpot. Found an overhead view.

Probably Photoshopped!

iluvmysephia1

driver100 said:

Iluv....something fishy going on. And, why would you take a picture of it on a vacant lot from the inside of the car you are in?

Why not? I still love that car and I'm looking for good reasons not to buy it. 

iluvmysephia1

Mr_Shiftright

iluvmysephia1 said:

The Car Connection just released an article today saying that Ford is punting the idea of selling the 2020 Ford Focus Easy in the U.S. (built in China). That's the only Ford I would buy. 

They said that the reason for not bringing it here is because of the Trump tariffs.

Is this the same car as the Ford Active? That's another one being axed because of tariffs. So that leaves only one "car" you can buy from Ford now--the Mustang.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

Much as I love Aretha (I'm tired of Soultown XM playing All Aretha, All the time), there's a matter of sensibility. I can't make it much clearer than that. 7 hours? I have lots of respict for her, but there is common sense. 

I would agree with you on this, there is a matter of sensibility. I really don't understand the level of morning a lot of people have over the death of some celebrities. Outside of their music, acting or whatever you really don't know them from Adam. I mean it's sad and everything but at the end of the day it's nowhere near like losing a family member, even a distant family member.

Lately when I hear of the death of a celebrity and the shows are all talking about them I say to myself " who?".  Aretha I know but truth be told if I had to list three of her songs I would have to go to the internet for the third song.

snakeweasel

I went furniture shopping with she who must be obeyed last night. We were looking for something to replace a sofa and love seat that we have in the family room that should have been replaced during the Johnson administration (Andrew Johnson).

It was hard, getting all comfortable on a sofa then my wife telling me to get up and look at another one. Getting up a few seconds after getting comfortable over and over is hard to do, especially when you're getting older and joints just don't work to well.

But we found a L shaped sectional with an oversized ottoman that we liked and was comfortable. Got some prices on it in different configurations and with and without the ottoman. Prices was out the door including delivery and a 5 year warranty for damage and stains. 

My wife said she didnt want the stain warranty and we could pick it up ourselves (meaning I would have to load in and carry it into the house with someone I conned into helping me). We did like the sofa and were discussing it when the saleslady asked us what she could do to get us to buy. I told her if they threw in the warranty and delivery at no charge we had a deal. We had a deal. 

They also had 18 months interest free financing which we took ( free money), and we will have it paid in 17 months. The only issue is that it's a brand new item not in stock yet so it will be 4 or 5 weeks before we get it.

Now last night at home my wife reviews the sales paperwork and starts complaining that they charged us for the warranty and the delivery. I said I know but they discounted the furniture price by the same amount to cover it so it effectively comes to free delivery and warranty. 

Now as we are about to leave my wife spies an interesting looking lamp in the clearance section that didn't have a match for it for the price of $20. So we bought it cash, the receipt stated a price of $220 with a $200 discount. 

My God am I getting the long post fever?

venture

snakeweasel said:

I went furniture shopping with she who must be obeyed last night. We were looking for something to replace a sofa and love seat that we have in the family room that should have been replaced during the Johnson administration (Andrew Johnson).

It was hard, getting all comfortable on a sofa then my wife telling me to get up and look at another one. Getting up a few seconds after getting comfortable over and over is hard to do, especially when you're getting older and joints just don't work to well.

But we found a L shaped sectional with an oversized ottoman that we liked and was comfortable. Got some prices on it in different configurations and with and without the ottoman. Prices was out the door including delivery and a 5 year warranty for damage and stains. 

My wife said she didnt want the stain warranty and we could pick it up ourselves (meaning I would have to load in and carry it into the house with someone I conned into helping me). We did like the sofa and were discussing it when the saleslady asked us what she could do to get us to buy. I told her if they threw in the warranty and delivery at no charge we had a deal. We had a deal. 

They also had 18 months interest free financing which we took ( free money), and we will have it paid in 17 months. The only issue is that it's a brand new item not in stock yet so it will be 4 or 5 weeks before we get it.

Now last night at home my wife reviews the sales paperwork and starts complaining that they charged us for the warranty and the delivery. I said I know but they discounted the furniture price by the same amount to cover it so it effectively comes to free delivery and warranty. 

Now as we are about to leave my wife spies an interesting looking lamp in the clearance section that didn't have a match for it for the price of $20. So we bought it cash, the receipt stated a price of $220 with a $200 discount. 

My God am I getting the long post fever?

Yes, but yours was interesting.

iluvmysephia1

Shifty - I've heard both - Easy and Active for the 2020 Ford Focus. I just know it's gonna be built in China. Not hard to understand how Ford came to this decision with Trump tariffs going on.

iluvmysephia1

As the clock slowly counts down to one year from now, that's when I start drawing my Boeing pension while I keep working, saving the monthly pension payouts for a year so we can buy our car in cash, I am disappointed that I can't find a 2017-18 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo 6-speed for anything lower than $15,000.

The more I compare the Nissan to the Ford, the better the 2013 Ford Focus ST turbo 252 hp looks ta me. $12,500 for that car with 51,500 miles on it. I've thoroughly researched it - that price is unbelievable. Similarly- miled rigs are selling for $17,500. I think they call deals like this one "priced to sell."

iluvmysephia1

Meggy May, our Chow Chow, seems to like the deal, too.

snakeweasel

iluvmysephia1 said:

Meggy May, our Chow Chow, seems to like the deal, too.

Maybe there is a bag of milk bones in the trunk that Meggy May wants.

thebean

venture said:

snakeweasel said:

I went furniture shopping with she who must be obeyed last night. We were looking for something to replace a sofa and love seat that we have in the family room that should have been replaced during the Johnson administration (Andrew Johnson).

It was hard, getting all comfortable on a sofa then my wife telling me to get up and look at another one. Getting up a few seconds after getting comfortable over and over is hard to do, especially when you're getting older and joints just don't work to well.

But we found a L shaped sectional with an oversized ottoman that we liked and was comfortable. Got some prices on it in different configurations and with and without the ottoman. Prices was out the door including delivery and a 5 year warranty for damage and stains. 

My wife said she didnt want the stain warranty and we could pick it up ourselves (meaning I would have to load in and carry it into the house with someone I conned into helping me). We did like the sofa and were discussing it when the saleslady asked us what she could do to get us to buy. I told her if they threw in the warranty and delivery at no charge we had a deal. We had a deal. 

They also had 18 months interest free financing which we took ( free money), and we will have it paid in 17 months. The only issue is that it's a brand new item not in stock yet so it will be 4 or 5 weeks before we get it.

Now last night at home my wife reviews the sales paperwork and starts complaining that they charged us for the warranty and the delivery. I said I know but they discounted the furniture price by the same amount to cover it so it effectively comes to free delivery and warranty. 

Now as we are about to leave my wife spies an interesting looking lamp in the clearance section that didn't have a match for it for the price of $20. So we bought it cash, the receipt stated a price of $220 with a $200 discount. 

My God am I getting the long post fever?

Yes, but yours was interesting.

@venture, you're kinda playing fast and loose with the term "interesting" aren't you?

iluvmysephia1

Right you are, snake!

jmonroe1

thebean said:

venture said:

snakeweasel said:

I went furniture shopping with she who must be obeyed last night. We were looking for something to replace a sofa and love seat that we have in the family room that should have been replaced during the Johnson administration (Andrew Johnson).

It was hard, getting all comfortable on a sofa then my wife telling me to get up and look at another one. Getting up a few seconds after getting comfortable over and over is hard to do, especially when you're getting older and joints just don't work to well.

But we found a L shaped sectional with an oversized ottoman that we liked and was comfortable. Got some prices on it in different configurations and with and without the ottoman. Prices was out the door including delivery and a 5 year warranty for damage and stains. 

My wife said she didnt want the stain warranty and we could pick it up ourselves (meaning I would have to load in and carry it into the house with someone I conned into helping me). We did like the sofa and were discussing it when the saleslady asked us what she could do to get us to buy. I told her if they threw in the warranty and delivery at no charge we had a deal. We had a deal. 

They also had 18 months interest free financing which we took ( free money), and we will have it paid in 17 months. The only issue is that it's a brand new item not in stock yet so it will be 4 or 5 weeks before we get it.

Now last night at home my wife reviews the sales paperwork and starts complaining that they charged us for the warranty and the delivery. I said I know but they discounted the furniture price by the same amount to cover it so it effectively comes to free delivery and warranty. 

Now as we are about to leave my wife spies an interesting looking lamp in the clearance section that didn't have a match for it for the price of $20. So we bought it cash, the receipt stated a price of $220 with a $200 discount. 

My God am I getting the long post fever?

Yes, but yours was interesting.

@venture, you're kinda playing fast and loose with the term "interesting" aren't you?

Yeah. What's so interesting about a couch that just sits there and a lamp that ain't got a match?

jmonroe

isellhondas

dino001 said:

So now we're into taxing wealth? That's where rational discussion ends.

Yes, and socialism begins....want some?

berri

That's a happy looking little dog iluv

berri

I'd just like to be somewhere that isn't out on the edge of either side of the bell curve these days. Common sense and moderation used to core to America.

venture

jmonroe1 said:

thebean said:

venture said:

snakeweasel said:

I went furniture shopping with she who must be obeyed last night. We were looking for something to replace a sofa and love seat that we have in the family room that should have been replaced during the Johnson administration (Andrew Johnson).

It was hard, getting all comfortable on a sofa then my wife telling me to get up and look at another one. Getting up a few seconds after getting comfortable over and over is hard to do, especially when you're getting older and joints just don't work to well.

But we found a L shaped sectional with an oversized ottoman that we liked and was comfortable. Got some prices on it in different configurations and with and without the ottoman. Prices was out the door including delivery and a 5 year warranty for damage and stains. 

My wife said she didnt want the stain warranty and we could pick it up ourselves (meaning I would have to load in and carry it into the house with someone I conned into helping me). We did like the sofa and were discussing it when the saleslady asked us what she could do to get us to buy. I told her if they threw in the warranty and delivery at no charge we had a deal. We had a deal. 

They also had 18 months interest free financing which we took ( free money), and we will have it paid in 17 months. The only issue is that it's a brand new item not in stock yet so it will be 4 or 5 weeks before we get it.

Now last night at home my wife reviews the sales paperwork and starts complaining that they charged us for the warranty and the delivery. I said I know but they discounted the furniture price by the same amount to cover it so it effectively comes to free delivery and warranty. 

Now as we are about to leave my wife spies an interesting looking lamp in the clearance section that didn't have a match for it for the price of $20. So we bought it cash, the receipt stated a price of $220 with a $200 discount. 

My God am I getting the long post fever?

Yes, but yours was interesting.

@venture, you're kinda playing fast and loose with the term "interesting" aren't you?

Yeah. What's so interesting about a couch that just sits there and a lamp that ain't got a match?

jmonroe

driver100

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

Much as I love Aretha (I'm tired of Soultown XM playing All Aretha, All the time), there's a matter of sensibility. I can't make it much clearer than that. 7 hours? I have lots of respict for her, but there is common sense. 

I would agree with you on this, there is a matter of sensibility. I really don't understand the level of morning a lot of people have over the death of some celebrities. Outside of their music, acting or whatever you really don't know them from Adam..

Some people like to cry a lot and get emotional - they probably need a real life. We may morn over a celebrity, pay respects, Aretha, John McCain, etc....it is sad, but, life goes on.

driver100

Iluv....why is that Ford sitting on a vacant lot with an amateur price sign on it?
Now I think I see you took the pictures from your car......afraid to get out in that neighborhood?

driver100

Yeah. What's so interesting about a couch that just sits there and a lamp that ain't got a match?

jmonroe

Yah, it would be a better story if he got chased around the couch.

I think the moral of the story was, "Some stores put very high artificial prices on some items - like $225 for a lamp, so that they can advertise deep discounts.......like $200 off a $225 item".

iluvmysephia1

driver100 said:

Iluv....why is that Ford sitting on a vacant lot with an amateur price
sign on it? Now I think I see you took the pictures from your car......afraid to get out in that neighborhood?

Because the car was being sold by a private party first. He parked it on that open lot. They couldn't sell it, so it was either bought by a used car dealer in town or it's going to be a consignment sale of some sort. I don't know why the discrepancy with mileage - it's all of a sudden got 10,000 miles less and listed for $1,000 more. That part is understandable, the Focus ST should be listed at $16,000, not $12,500. So I would have it checked out thoroughly first and enjoy a test drive, of course, and go from there.

stickguy

Iluv, if that Focus really was such a screaming deal, it would have been snapped up a long time ago. Something on that one really sounds hinky. Plus, you already have an older car with some miles on it. That is now 6 years old. As often as you get cars (meaning the next one is going to have to be around a long time) might as well splurge on a much newer (1-2 year old) one.

plus, even a new Sentra is likely to have way better tech than a 6 YO Focus.

and finally, are you sure your wife isn't going to hate the Focus (pick a reason: tight sport seats, harsh ride, color).

driver100

+1 with Stick.
And how did it shed 10000 miles?
Weird!
Check in a month...you might get it for $9000!

fintail

Responsible accountable capitalism with social goods, yes. Social democracy, as it is called. For some weird reason it works pretty well in many other places, places with many quality of life indices superior to the land of trickle down lies. But we are all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, a hair's breadth from making it big, so it doesn't matter

isellhondas said:

dino001 said:

So now we're into taxing wealth? That's where rational discussion ends.

Yes, and socialism begins....want some?

andres3

graphicguy said:

@andres3 ....HDMI went through several interactions in years past. If your Denon had one of the older HDMI versions, it would not transmit audio, just video. Maybe that’s where the problem is.

No, this is a receiver I was using just fine for 3.5 years, and all of a sudden, the digital circuits when haywire.

I've isolated it to the digital processing.

iluvmysephia1

stickguy said:

Iluv, if that Focus really was such a screaming deal, it would have been snapped up a long time ago. Something on that one really sounds hinky. Plus, you already

have an older car with some miles on it. That is now 6 years old. As often as you get cars (meaning the next one is going to have to be around a long time) might as well splurge on a much newer (1-2 year old) one. plus, even a new Sentra is likely to have way better tech than a 6 YO Focus. and finally, are you sure your wife isn't going to hate the Focus (pick a reason: tight sport seats, harsh ride, color).

The 2013 Ford Focus ST is a sort of available amusement while we enjoy the reliability and economy of our 2011 Kia Soul. I would rather have it sitting at a used car lot for sale 2 miles away than 1,000 miles away owned by someone else or listed for sale by someone else.

Besides, our real plan involves saving a year's amount of my pension payments and paying cash for our next rig.