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driver100

qbrozen said:

That was the worst I’ve seen the Rams play all season. Tragic.

You call that "playing"?

qbrozen

jmonroe1 said:

That was the worst I’ve seen the Rams play all season. Tragic.

Yeah, but look who made them look like that. jmonroe

Yes, themselves

qbrozen

driver100 said:

That was the worst I’ve seen the Rams play all season. Tragic.

You call that "playing"?

I certainly wouldn’t call it “serious.” ;b

stickguy

The Saint's would have put up a much better showing.

houdini2

qbrozen said:

driver100 said:

qbrozen said:

That was the worst I’ve seen the Rams play all season. Tragic.

You call that "playing"?

I certainly wouldn’t call it “serious.” ;b

Defense for each team played an outstanding game. Rams just couldn't get rolling on offense, but that was mainly because of the Patriot's defense. Goff was forced to try to look through his helmet's ear hole all night.

houdini2

houdini2 said:

qbrozen said:

driver100 said:

qbrozen said:

That was the worst I’ve seen the Rams play all season. Tragic.

You call that "playing"?

I certainly wouldn’t call it “serious.” ;b

snakeweasel

bwia said:

Whoopi...another parade for our beloved Patriots on Tuesday. Although this is beginning to cost real money for police detail and street cleaning. It is but a small price to pay for bragging rights.

7:58 Monday morning, this is the earliest I ever found out who won the Superbowl. 

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

jmonroe1 said:

qbrozen said:

That was the worst I’ve seen the Rams play all season. Tragic.

Yeah, but look who made them look like that.

jmonroe

Yes, themselves

You and I must have watched a different game. Maybe it's your TV. Mine is a Samsung what do you have?

jmonroe

dino001

Goff looked lost and overwhelmed. Phillips and his defense kept Rams in the game as long as he could, but the offense looked out of its element. I think it’s both NE not letting them, but it also looked like the offensive coaches “overprepared” and changed too much, confusing the young QB. Ultimate mindgame advantage - make your opponent second guess your own strengths and abandon what you do best.

PF_Flyer

Some good news. You can once again get to here from there. Links to the forums can be found on each of the three landing pages at the top of edmunds.com



On New Car Pricing and Used Cars For Sale you'll find them right near the top of the page




And on the Car Reviews page, it's just a little further down



The seat belt life is off, feel free to roam about

fintail

You've never been to Texas I see

Life may not be fair, but it is more fair for some than others.

Mr_Shiftright said:

And here I thought football was just a GAME?

stickguy

Now just need to add forums as a 4th link on the main page!

Mr_Shiftright

fintail said:

You've never been to Texas I see

Life may not be fair, but it is more fair for some than others.

Mr_Shiftright said:

And here I thought football was just a GAME?

My map of the USA doesn't show Texas---there's a blank spot with the words "There be dragons there".

henryn

Mr_Shiftright said:

My map of the USA doesn't show Texas---there's a blank spot with the words "There be dragons there".

Hey!!! I resemble that remark!

laurasdada

Bookend Super Bowl, Pats and Rams; two of the most unexpected outcomes ever. Pats winning the first meeting, and the defensive gem pitched last night! Once again, never a dull SB when the Pats play, while I'd certainly have preferred a 34-31 shootout, the tension of this game was fantastic. Just waiting for that one play, one mistake that would decide it.

We're on to Spring Training!

abacomike

venture said:

Spoke with my grandson on the phone last night. He said he's broke so I'll deposit a couple of hundred bucks into his checking account so he'll have something to fall back on. He told me he developed strep throat and "mononucleosis" 3 weeks ago and was in the hospital for a couple of days. He was given injections of "immune globulin" to help fight the infections as well as IV fluids to keep him hydrated. Poor kid - and because of an enlarged liver and spleen, he is going to miss the first two weeks of the baseball season out in Nebraska. They play indoors for the first two months of the season which is a great way to get all the games in before the tournaments. His doctors and coaches won't clear him to play baseball until February 25th. Once he gets medical clearance and coaching clearance, he'll be a starting pitcher. They also moved him to first base when he's not pitching. I remember way back in the 1950's and 1960's that "mono" was called the "kissing disease" because lots of guys and gals in middle school and high school would come down with it after heated kissing and other contact sports with their girlfriends. I asked him about that and he said that he did not participate in "that" sport weeks prior to his getting sick. He said he awakened one morning with a sore throat. So he went to the infirmary where the nurse and doctor had him taken to the hospital due to his high fever. The blood test a week or two later confirmed the mononucleosis. But at least he did great on his finals from what he told me. Just because young people are off at college doesn't mean they are safe and sound. I hope his recovery is swift and uneventful.

How is he dealing with the Nebraska winter?

He says he is always cold and that the snow keeps piling up and never seems to melt.  I reminded him that spring and summer will eventually arrive and he’ll be able to see the color of the roads and streets as well as green grass and trees.  He loves college life but I sure would love to hear how he contracted mononucleosis - he and I both know he didn’t get it by “not” socializing. 

Mr_Shiftright

It's contracted through saliva, but you could get it from sharing eating utensils, or maybe if someone sneezes like right in your face. It could take a month or two to appear.

driver100

stickguy said:

Now just need to add forums as a 4th link on the main page!

...........and a direct link to Cars & Conversation.

abacomike

@snakeweasel:

I didn’t find out who won the SB until 10:00 AM this morning.  That’s how interested I was in this year’s game - New Orleans should have been playing!!!

PF_Flyer

stickguy said:

Now just need to add forums as a 4th link on the main page!

Only minor miracles today

driver100

I saw a Santa Fe in red tody....looks really nice, I thought it looked like a mini Porsche SUV:

The front end made me think....if they can put a nice front end on a $28k Hyundai, why can't they put one on a Lexus?

abacomike

had to delete

abacomike

Mr_Shiftright said:

It's contracted through saliva, but you could get it from sharing eating utensils, or maybe if someone sneezes like right in your face. It could take a month or two to appear.

He contracted it 3-4 weeks ago - so he was infected while he was home for Christmas vacation.  My son said he was out late every night carousing with his old high school crowd  so we now know how he got it - and it wasn’t from utensils!

He made varsity as a freshman which was not easy to do.  His pitching speed is in the upper 80’s and low 90’s.  He is cleared to play on February 25th so he will only miss 5-6 games.  

suydam

You can get mono in many ways. It tends to go through college dorms in waves. So does norovirus, flu, and many other diseases. Lots of young people, unhealthy eating, poor sleep habits, stress, and immune system vulnerability. Fortunately most of them recover quickly. I’ve often said that only kindergarten classrooms rival colleges for sheer germ production and spread.

abacomike

suydam said:

You can get mono in many ways. It tends to go through college dorms in waves. So does norovirus, flu, and many other diseases. Lots of young people, unhealthy eating, poor sleep habits, stress, and immune system vulnerability. Fortunately most of them recover quickly. I’ve often said that only kindergarten classrooms rival colleges for sheer germ production and spread.

Actually, any elementary school classroom.  I was sick all the time when I was a school principal.  

driver100

abacomike said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

It's contracted through saliva, but you could get it from sharing eating utensils, or maybe if someone sneezes like right in your face. It could take a month or two to appear.

He contracted it 3-4 weeks ago - so he was infected while he was home for Christmas vacation.  My son said he was out late every night carousing with his old high school crowd  so we now know how he got it - and it wasn’t from utensils

!

.  

Mono, or mononucleosis, is spread through direct contact with saliva. This includes sharing eating utensils, drinks, and even things like lip gloss, lipstick, or lip balm. Because it takes about 4 to 7 weeks for symptoms to appear, a person who's infected can spread the virus without even knowing it.

I didn't think it was from utensils, but, I didn't want to say anything. I was once a teen-ager and young guy too!

abacomike

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

It's contracted through saliva, but you could get it from sharing eating utensils, or maybe if someone sneezes like right in your face. It could take a month or two to appear.

He contracted it 3-4 weeks ago - so he was infected while he was home for Christmas vacation.  My son said he was out late every night carousing with his old high school crowd  so we now know how he got it - and it wasn’t from utensils

!

.  

Mono, or mononucleosis, is spread through direct contact with saliva. This includes sharing eating utensils, drinks, and even things like lip gloss, lipstick, or lip balm. Because it takes about 4 to 7 weeks for symptoms to appear, a person who's infected can spread the virus without even knowing it. I didn't think it was from utensils, but, I didn't want to say anything. I was once a teen-ager and young guy too!

Could have fooled me, driver! 

explorerx4

That Deflategate episode really hurt Brady and the Patriots.
Look how much trouble they've had since he came back.

berri

I have several friends who were teachers. They said you spend the first 5 years or so sick a lot, but then seem to develop immunity. I know several others who started out teaching, but within 5 years kissed it good bye.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

I'm off to Menards to do some big box store shopping.
Trying to get a replacement dog bed for the grandpuppy that's on clearance
and only available at a few other stores.

There was one year when there was some football game on this time of year and I
went to Lowes. The place was empty. I was the ONLY customer. And there were
very few employees visible. Maybe they were all in the break room, but I think they
planned for a low customer count because of some football game being on.

Yesterday in contrast was bedlam. All the men must have sent their wives and girlfriends out to buy snacks because everywhere I went I had a woman driver tailgating me. I don’t understand why women like to ride your bumper instead of roaring past you at high speed like a guy would.

I noticed women can be worse then men...or almost as bad when it comes to tailgating, but, I think it is for different reasons. Overly aggressive males do it to try and push the car in front to go faster or move aside. Some women do it because they don't have any idea of space and stopping distance....they are in a hurry and don't realize how long it takes to stop if the car in front stops or slows down suddenly.
Might be PI but that is my theory.

I’m not saying one sex is better than the other, just different. Many times those male drivers who race past you will then cut in and almost take your bumper off.

oldfarmer50

sda said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

glad the polar vortex apparently went back to where it came from. Got 2 increadibly dirty cars washed this afternoon (daughter's Jetta was the dirtiest car I think I ever had the privilege of washing). that and the RDX and shiny now. TLX needs a bath too, but that will get done tomorrow.

I took the two summer cars out into the driveway to charge the batteries but I wouldn’t dare take them into the salt. Sat in the Ford and revved the motor so I wouldn’t forget what the Borla sounded like.

I have to take the wife’s car to get washed soon, it looks like a block of salt.

Did you have the PT repaired after the bump up?

Yep, looks good as new.

oldfarmer50

suydam said:

You can get mono in many ways. It tends to go through college dorms in waves. So does norovirus, flu, and many other diseases. Lots of young people, unhealthy eating, poor sleep habits, stress, and immune system vulnerability. Fortunately most of them recover quickly. I’ve often said that only kindergarten classrooms rival colleges for sheer germ production and spread.

Try a school bus.

henryn

I was watching a rather dumb movie on Netflix the other night. Mechanic talking to his boss in a garage,
“JC’s Trans AM needs a transmission rebuild, a new exhaust, and nitrogen in the tires.”

Struck me right off – one of those 3 things does not fit with the others.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

I'm off to Menards to do some big box store shopping.
Trying to get a replacement dog bed for the grandpuppy that's on clearance
and only available at a few other stores.

There was one year when there was some football game on this time of year and I
went to Lowes. The place was empty. I was the ONLY customer. And there were
very few employees visible. Maybe they were all in the break room, but I think they
planned for a low customer count because of some football game being on.

Yesterday in contrast was bedlam. All the men must have sent their wives and girlfriends out to buy snacks because everywhere I went I had a woman driver tailgating me. I don’t understand why women like to ride your bumper instead of roaring past you at high speed like a guy would.

I noticed women can be worse then men...or almost as bad when it comes to tailgating, but, I think it is for different reasons. Overly aggressive males do it to try and push the car in front to go faster or move aside. Some women do it because they don't have any idea of space and stopping distance....they are in a hurry and don't realize how long it takes to stop if the car in front stops or slows down suddenly.
Might be PI but that is my theory.

I’m not saying one sex is better than the other, just different. Many times those male drivers who race past you will then cut in and almost take your bumper off.

I agree and women don't tend to do that. I had a guy do that very thing today. He was in a Toyota van, I was in the left lane because I had to turn left in about a mile. I know he was impatient, he was on my rear bumper, but the guy ahead of me was going the speed limit which is a bit slow on that road. We past a car on the right, he curved in, then he tailgated the car in front in the right lane and cut in front of me....he actually cut me off and I had to slow down and curve away to miss him.....he barely wedged his way in front of me and the car now in front of him, and then he did the same thing to the car in front of me. It was crazy....but, a woman wouldn't do that. He got away with it this time, but, that maneuver is going to catch up with him some day.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

glad the polar vortex apparently went back to where it came from. Got 2 increadibly dirty cars washed this afternoon (daughter's Jetta was the dirtiest car I think I ever had the privilege of washing). that and the RDX and shiny now. TLX needs a bath too, but that will get done tomorrow.

I took the two summer cars out into the driveway to charge the batteries but I wouldn’t dare take them into the salt. Sat in the Ford and revved the motor so I wouldn’t forget what the Borla sounded like.

I have to take the wife’s car to get washed soon, it looks like a block of salt.

Did you have the PT repaired after the bump up?

Yep, looks good as new.

Does it ride like new too?

abacomike

Test drove the Toyota Avalon Touring model today - MSRP was $45,000.  I found it to be a truly outstanding vehicle but just a tad underpowered.  Front seat was fairly roomy and comfortable.  Handling was quite good.  I then thought that for about the same money, I could buy a Lexus ES350.

So I went over to the Lexus dealer and test drove the new ES350.  Ultra Luxury sedan.  MSRP was $50,000.  Definitely my kind of car.  It was Pearl Red with Glaxen leather seats and fully loaded.  Handled and drove better than the Avalon.  Power was similar on acceleration and the interior comfort was similar, but much more luxurious.

For about $5,000 more (Lexus), it seemed to me to be the better choice.  Do in about 18 months, I will be looking at that car.

stickguy

those are very nice. I sat in one when I was at the Lexus dealer shopping the NX. I would not mind one at all, though I think this iteration might have gotten just a bit too big. I really liked the one 2 generations back (up to about 2012?). Always felt just right.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

I didn't think it was from utensils, but, I didn't want to say anything. I was once a teen-ager and young guy too!

BTW what was like growing up with George Washington?

henryn

It's been a few years since I tried on an Avalon or Lexus for size, but I do recall the Avalon was a lot roomier than any of the Lexus models.

stickguy

the Avalon used to be a size up from the ES lexus, but now they are on the same platform, which I think means the ES grew bigger to catch up. In any case, I found it quite large and roomy.

tjc78

Yeah the ES used to be identical in size to the Camry. The Avalon was always bigger. I’m pretty sure that the new Avalon while bigger than a Camry isn’t quite as large as it used to be in 05+ generation that I had. I had an 03 and an 06 they both were great cars, but 06 was much better and more powerful with the 2GR 3.5.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

glad the polar vortex apparently went back to where it came from. Got 2 increadibly dirty cars washed this afternoon (daughter's Jetta was the dirtiest car I think I ever had the privilege of washing). that and the RDX and shiny now. TLX needs a bath too, but that will get done tomorrow.

I took the two summer cars out into the driveway to charge the batteries but I wouldn’t dare take them into the salt. Sat in the Ford and revved the motor so I wouldn’t forget what the Borla sounded like.

I have to take the wife’s car to get washed soon, it looks like a block of salt.

Did you have the PT repaired after the bump up?

Yep, looks good as new.

Does it ride like new too?

It never did.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

I didn't think it was from utensils, but, I didn't want to say anything. I was once a teen-ager and young guy too!

BTW what was like growing up with George Washington?

Driver grew up with George III.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

I didn't think it was from utensils, but, I didn't want to say anything. I was once a teen-ager and young guy too!

BTW what was like growing up with George Washington?

Well, Georges teeth were really made out of metal, that wood story isn't true. And, although he was very honest, the story about cutting down his father's cherry tree is a myth.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

glad the polar vortex apparently went back to where it came from. Got 2 increadibly dirty cars washed this afternoon (daughter's Jetta was the dirtiest car I think I ever had the privilege of washing). that and the RDX and shiny now. TLX needs a bath too, but that will get done tomorrow.

I took the two summer cars out into the driveway to charge the batteries but I wouldn’t dare take them into the salt. Sat in the Ford and revved the motor so I wouldn’t forget what the Borla sounded like.

I have to take the wife’s car to get washed soon, it looks like a block of salt.

Did you have the PT repaired after the bump up?

Yep, looks good as new.

Does it ride like new too?

It never did.

Even when it was new, it didn't ride like it was new?

driver100

I am sure the ES350 is a great car and it gets a good write up from most reviewers including Edmunds.
Review Lexus ES350 Edmunds
One big drawback seems to be the radio....music system. Lots of complaints, this one sums it up:
The stereo system in this car (in my case, the upgraded Mark Levinson), is literally unlistenable due to balance/fader issues, as is the Bluetooth. All of the sound comes directly from the center dash speaker, and no amount of changing the fader and equalizer settings changes that’s unfortunately. There are multiple threads on onl8ne forums of people describing the same problem

You would think, in this day and age, they could have put more into a good music system.

Having said that, if I became unhappy with a Mercedes or BMW (first choices), Lexus would be next on my list to try.

snakeweasel

Happy New Year to all.

graphicguy

So, our beloved forums come in after “Road Noise, Affordability Calculator and Pre-Production Models”? At the very bottom of the page? Last link?

That doesn’t bode well for us.

bwia

Indeed, the Avalon and ES are nice vehicles but unfortunately consumers have fallen in love with the SUV leaving the traditional 4 door sedan as a relic of the past. You would think that that trend would lead to good deals in the premium sedan market segment. But the opposite is true. A lightly optioned sedan in that class carries a MSRP in excess of $45K. I'm not yet in the market for a new vehicle but when I do it probably will be an electrified SUV.

stickguy

Sedans though tend to have better discounts, and lease specials. So street values can vary quite a bit.

After just doing a lot of looking at sedans and CUVs, and buying a sedan, I’m kinda in the boat of saying, so what that sedans are out of favor? Buyers find wagons more useful, because overall, they are! I probably should have gotten a new CUV instead for the wife. And most likely, when the TLX goes back, that’s what will replace it.