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oldfarmer50

tyguy said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

Like OF I’m guessing they’re trying to match your current car with the rental as best as possible. The credit card is in case you damage the rental.

Just an additional thought, they might want to know your car so they can have the body shop drop it off at the office for your convenience. I think they get graded on customer satisfaction like car salesmen.

Overheard one side of an interesting conversation yesterday. Customer called an office asking a hypothetical question on damage liability. The agent needed to look up what, if any insurance she had taken out to answer her question and asked for her name. Woman answered “I’m not giving you my name!”. Agent answered “well, I can’t really help you then and I know you’ve already damaged the vehicle the extent of which I’ll find out when you return it.” She still refused to give him her name so he wished her a nice day.

I’m as paranoid as venture about giving up personal information but really?

imidazol97

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is. Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it. She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental. I might just rent one from the dealer.

You should hear some of the interrogations that go on in our offices. I assume that some of it is to try to match you with a car you’ll be happy with but other questions sound designed to detect suspicious or even criminal intent. Drug dealer routinely rent cars to make deliveries so if caught their personal car isn’t seized. Also, I can see them asking young people things like where they are going in case they’re renting a car just to beat up in street races down the block. Then again, maybe they sell your info to car dealers so you can get junk mail.

I bet you could write a book. I took the Murano and before I got home I noticed a scraping noise coming from under the car. I took it back, a guy crawled under it, and he brought out a tree branch.

Do you remember running over a tree-

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

Fuel economy is never a concern for my “fun” cars, but I do pay more attention with respect to my daily drivers- that’s why my Clubman is perfect for that role as it posts great fuel economy numbers and is still entertaining enough that I don’t mind driving it.  

I track my mileage at least to the extent of looking at the dash readout.

PT-mainly city driving 19. Horrible.
Cargo van-total city, short distances, 15. About what you’d expect for 5000 pounds.
Mustang-city, 20 but since I’ve put the mods on it 18 due to the fact that my foot gets heavy so I can hear the cool sounds. Still gets over 30 on the highway.
Convertible-haven’t checked but based on similar cars I’ve owned probably 25 overall.

I’ve noticed that gas is up over 10 cents from a few weeks ago so maybe I better start checking more carefully.

ruking1

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

jmonroe1 said:

suydam said:

So we’re not allowed to even ask the question?

Ask all you want but but unless you plan to buy one, why?

jmonroe

Are you trying to bully simple curiosity?

jmonroe1 is a kind and benevolent ruler but don’t ask questions not sanction by the party.

To the North Korean gulags where one dies a horrible death? 😜😱 A bit extreme for asking a car ? ?

ruking1

driver100 said:

ruking1 said:

What kind of mpg do you get from your 2015 MB GLK 350?

Good question......I have no idea. My wife drives it 99% of the time and she never resets the odometer. My 2017 E400 gets 26 US mpg and the 2014 C250 gets 29 US mpg.
I am satisfied with those numbers, and my guess is the GLK is a little heavier than the C250, but the engine isn't as efficient as the E400...if I was to guess I would say 24 or 25 mpg. It has the same engine as my 2015 E350 and that is what it got.

What would you think ruking and why are you asking?
You have to learn to ignore jmonroe1 sometimes. Just be thankful he hasn't told any really long stories lately. He is also upset because his Genesis....his Mercedes wannabe car, isn't known for getting great mileage, which is one reason it is a wannabe.

21 mpg if commuting. To see if it tracks with fuelly mpg numbers.

2014 MB GLK 250 BT here, app 77,000 miles. The body etc. are mostly similar. to the MB GLK 350. 37.5 mpg on OEM run flats, daily commute traffic. There’s a whole TMI if of interst.

It would be interesting to know which Mercedes he’s comparing the Genesis to.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

Fuel economy is never a concern for my “fun” cars, but I do pay more attention with respect to my daily drivers- that’s why my Clubman is perfect for that role as it posts great fuel economy numbers and is still entertaining enough that I don’t mind driving it.  

I track my mileage at least to the extent of looking at the dash readout.

I’ve noticed that gas is up over 10 cents from a few weeks ago so maybe I better start checking more carefully.

Gas was $2.27 yesterday....today it is $2.49! What happened?

driver100

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:

ruking1 said:

What kind of mpg do you get from your 2015 MB GLK 350?

Good question......I have no idea. My wife drives it 99% of the time and she never resets the odometer. My 2017 E400 gets 26 US mpg and the 2014 C250 gets 29 US mpg.
I am satisfied with those numbers, and my guess is the GLK is a little heavier than the C250, but the engine isn't as efficient as the E400...if I was to guess I would say 24 or 25 mpg. It has the same engine as my 2015 E350 and that is what it got.

What would you think ruking and why are you asking?
You have to learn to ignore jmonroe1 sometimes. Just be thankful he hasn't told any really long stories lately. He is also upset because his Genesis....his Mercedes wannabe car, isn't known for getting great mileage, which is one reason it is a wannabe.

2014 MB GLK 250 BT here, app 77,000 miles. The body etc. are mostly similar. to the MB GLK 350. 37.5 mpg on OEM run flats, daily commute traffic.

That is great mileage ruking. How do you like your GLK? My wife loves the high seating position, the 329 h.p. engine, the large windows, and the way it handles. She only puts about 4000 miles a year on it because we are home for 7 months of the year. I wouldn't mind owning it for 10 or 15 years.....it is so enjoyable.

ruking1

My guess is the refinery had to purchase barrels of oil @ the higher prices.

ruking1

driver100 said:

ruking1 said:

driver100 said:

ruking1 said:

What kind of mpg do you get from your 2015 MB GLK 350?

Good question......I have no idea. My wife drives it 99% of the time and she never resets the odometer. My 2017 E400 gets 26 US mpg and the 2014 C250 gets 29 US mpg.
I am satisfied with those numbers, and my guess is the GLK is a little heavier than the C250, but the engine isn't as efficient as the E400...if I was to guess I would say 24 or 25 mpg. It has the same engine as my 2015 E350 and that is what it got.

What would you think ruking and why are you asking?
You have to learn to ignore jmonroe1 sometimes. Just be thankful he hasn't told any really long stories lately. He is also upset because his Genesis....his Mercedes wannabe car, isn't known for getting great mileage, which is one reason it is a wannabe.

2014 MB GLK 250 BT here, app 77,000 miles. The body etc. are mostly similar. to the MB GLK 350. 37.5 mpg on OEM run flats, daily commute traffic.

That is great mileage ruking. How do you like your GLK? My wife loves the high seating position, the 329 h.p. engine, the large windows, and the way it handles. She only puts about 4000 miles a year on it because we are home for 7 months of the year. I wouldn't mind owning it for 10 or 15 years.....it is so enjoyable.

The MB GLK 250 BT, as you probably know is the same sans the diesel bits. It’s mainly a daily commuter (13,500 commute/18,000 year). We hit the mountains when we can. It’s great at altitude. (7,700 feet) The 4matic helps with snow & ice traction, even with mpg penalty. We don’t take it off road much, yet a favorite small lake with great paddle boarding, canoeing, row boating, low power motor boating, fishing, camping, etc.,is via dirt road between cut trees. We both love the GLK,& probably with differing perspectives. MB seems to have hit a home run on the GLK & subsequent GLC 300?. Yes, I’d like to keep this thing past 250,000 miles, which puts it @ 14 years.

driver100

Ruking, when we bought our 2015 GLK the 2016 GLC's were out...it would have been easier and not cost much more than the 2015 we did buy. My wife didn't like the smaller windows and swooshy lines of the GLC, also didn't like the pop-up media/GPS system, so we got the GLK - I like it better too.

Seems a lot of people were buying up 2015s when they saw pictures of the 2016, it was hard to find one in the color we wanted...but, we did. White with tan inside, only other one would have been red which would be OK.

ruking1

I personally think that you folks made a very good decision, for a compact CUV. I’ve heard some vilification because of how box like the 2015 on back are. Edmunds.com (2013/2014) even listed (excessive) windshield noise from a more upright windshield. Cruising @ 90 mph, for hours, the excessive wind noise was a no show.

Timing is pretty funny. In late 2013 early 2014, when shopping for the GLK, the local dealer even queried the factory & the literal boat load of MB GLK’s coming to port. (uncommitted or tradeable) We took one from local inventory. It had what we wanted & didn’t want. But yes the pop-up media/GPS system did not appeal to us at all.

venture

imidazol97 said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

You should hear some of the interrogations that go on in our offices. I assume that some of it is to try to match you with a car you’ll be happy with but other questions sound designed to detect suspicious or even criminal intent. Drug dealer routinely rent cars to make deliveries so if caught their personal car isn’t seized. Also, I can see them asking young people things like where they are going in case they’re renting a car just to beat up in street races down the block.

Then again, maybe they sell your info to car dealers so you can get junk mail.

I bet you could write a book.

I took the Murano and before I got home I noticed a scraping noise coming from under the car. I took it back, a guy crawled under it, and he brought out a tree branch.

Do you remember running over a tree-

LOL. Do you think that might have done it?





It did it on the first turn. I took it right back.

venture

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

driver100 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have.
They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it.

I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it.

I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws.

I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time.

Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer.

jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked.



I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

ruking1

Ouch! It sends chills, seeing car damage like that.

snakeweasel

ruking1 said:

I personally think that you folks made a very good decision, for a compact CUV. I’ve heard some vilification because of how box like the 2015 on back are. Edmunds.com even listed windshield noise from a more upright windshield. Cruising @ 90 mpg, for hours, the excessive wind noise was a no show. But yes the pop-up media/GPS system did not appeal to us at all.

90 mpg? my that's great gas mileage.

Come on confess that's downhill with a strong tailwind, right?

ab348

driver100 said:

Gas was $2.27 yesterday....today it is $2.49! What happened?

The cartel is driving up the price of oil again. One of the Wall St. investment places recently forecast a big jump in gas prices. That is always a self-fulfilling prophecy, at least for a while until the market speaks.

ruking1

snakeweasel said:

ruking1 said:

I personally think that you folks made a very good decision, for a compact CUV. I’ve heard some vilification because of how box like the 2015 on back are. Edmunds.com even listed windshield noise from a more upright windshield. Cruising @ 90 mpg, for hours, the excessive wind noise was a no show. But yes the pop-up media/GPS system did not appeal to us at all.

90 mpg? my that's great gas mileage.

Come on confess that's downhill with a strong tailwind, right?

Correction: from 90 mpg to mph. 🤪

One of the moderator can vouch, Interstate Highway 5 S/B to LA., FLAT........ Fuel mileage was as I remember 36 mpg or not far from. Diesels have interesting operating parameters. This one is also fitted with twin turbos.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

Fuel economy is never a concern for my “fun” cars, but I do pay more attention with respect to my daily drivers- that’s why my Clubman is perfect for that role as it posts great fuel economy numbers and is still entertaining enough that I don’t mind driving it.  

I track my mileage at least to the extent of looking at the dash readout.

I’ve noticed that gas is up over 10 cents from a few weeks ago so maybe I better start checking more carefully.

Gas was $2.27 yesterday....today it is $2.49! What happened?

Maybe the gas gods are trying to convince @ruking1 that he MUST get a car with very good gas mileage.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that @ruking1 can't write too many posts without revising them. Sometimes more than once with quite a bit of time lapsed. We've all revised a post or two but this guy has made it an art form.

Can you imagine what would happen if someone posted they got 33 miles per gallon then realized that they meant to say 13 miles per gallon and he didn't see the revised post and ran out to get that car. I think when he went missing in here we'd have to send out a search party looking for him at the bottom of cliffs and bridges. What a way to lose a poster buddy.

jmonroe

ruking1

Para #1 No, been running diesels for over 520,000 miles.

Para #2 Hey buddy, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.👍

[Deleted User]

Where I live the wind can really impact highway fuel economy...like half of typical when fighting a headwind. One trip across I-80 my Impreza engine RPMs averaged 3500 to 4000 pushing through a headwind and fuel economy dropped from mid-30s to high teens. Brutal. Plus it made for a looong drive.

Our 4-cylinder Outback does pretty well all things considered. 27 mpg around town. 34 to 37 mpg on the highway when wind or rain/snow isn't a factor.

The Tesla, well, LOL.

jmonroe1

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

driver100 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have.
They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it.

I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it.

I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws.

I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time.

Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer.

jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked.



I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

YIKES, if I did that with Mrs. j's Subie, I'd blame it on her.

Maybe you can confirm this with our retired mail carrier, @Sandman6472, but I remember hearing a good while ago that if a mail truck is stopped on the side of a public or private road without using their emergency flasher, the Post Office is liable for any accident because of this. Good luck trying to prove that but that's what I have heard.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

ruking1 said:

Para #1 No, been running diesels for over 520,000 miles.

Para #2 Hey buddy, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.👍

And he did it AGAIN. I think I'm going to keep score.

jmonroe

ruking1

jmonroe1 said:

ruking1 said:

Para #1 No, been running diesels for over 520,000 miles.

Para #2 Hey buddy, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.👍

And he did it AGAIN. I think I'm going to keep score.

jmonroe

Oh, thank you very much! I’ve decided to let you run for 2020 president ! I’m sure you’ll knock out Spartacus, Pocahontas, Comrade Bernie, etc ?

jmonroe1

ruking1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

ruking1 said:

Para #1 No, been running diesels for over 520,000 miles.

Para #2 Hey buddy, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.👍

And he did it AGAIN. I think I'm going to keep score.

jmonroe

Oh, thank you very much! I’ve decided to let you run for 2020 president all by yourself ! I’m sure you’ll knock out Spartacus ?

And he did it still AGAIN. Now I think he's messing with me. I'm not sure that is legal given the bylaws in here. :@

jmonroe

venture

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

driver100 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have.
They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it.

I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it.

I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws.

I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time.

Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer.

jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked.



I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

YIKES, if I did that with Mrs. j's Subie, I'd blame it on her.

Maybe you can confirm this with our retired mail carrier, @Sandman6472, but I remember hearing a good while ago that if a mail truck is stopped on the side of a public or private road without using their emergency flasher, the Post Office is liable for any accident because of this. Good luck trying to prove that but that's what I have heard.

jmonroe

It's not as bad as it looks. Just the bumper cover and tail light. I looked up the parts online and it's around $550. Since the stealers body shop is doing it, it will probably be about $2,500.

ruking1

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

driver100 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have.
They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it.

I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it.

I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws.

I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time.

Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer.

jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked.



I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

YIKES, if I did that with Mrs. j's Subie, I'd blame it on her.

Maybe you can confirm this with our retired mail carrier, @Sandman6472, but I remember hearing a good while ago that if a mail truck is stopped on the side of a public or private road without using their emergency flasher, the Post Office is liable for any accident because of this. Good luck trying to prove that but that's what I have heard.

jmonroe

It's not as bad as it looks. Just the bumper cover and tail light. I looked up the parts online and it's around $550. Since the stealers body shop is doing it, it will probably be about $2,500.

I was guessing app $2,200.

dino001

My current 430 GC is exceptionally efficient for its dynamic performance capabilities. When commuting, I generally have a light-to-moderate-weight foot, and I get 29-31 mpg, depending on actual conditions between particular fillups. It's about 40-60 percent light highway traffic (60 mph+) and rest is usually a heavy stop-and-go or city. If I go pure interstate in light traffic, I get 34-38 mpg, depending on prevailing speed and incline. Even heavy traffic will drop it only to mid-20s. I think that engine and transmission is a marvel of technology. From what I read, BMW has been able to edge out MB in fuel efficiency for years (in same generation and vehicle type), even if by decreasing margin. But it is premium, so owners of regular gas vehicles get 10-15 percent head start.

ruking1

Yes, I post 2014 GLK 250 BT’s per tank full (36-37.5 mpg) .Tank full it’s usually shortly after the low fuel lamp comes on & first click off. So for example, for certain legs, the computer can post 49.8 mpg for 120 miles. I really don’t post that for obvious reasons.

At that time, the MB 7 speed was the only transmission available. Also at that time, local BMW dealers were very unwilling to deal & @ thousands $’s more. Be that as it may, fuelly.com indicates 21.6 mpg for a 2014 X3 (competitor). GLK 350 @ 21 mpg, virtually identical. Diesels were virtually identical 31 vs 31.7 mpg

dino001

ruking1 said:

Yes I post per tank full (36-37.5 mpg) .Tank full it’s usually shortly after the low fuel lamp comes on. So for example, for certain legs, the computer can post 49.8 mpg for 120 miles. I really don’t post that because that can be misleading.

I sometimes get those silly high numbers in first few miles after the fillup, when I go constant moderate speed, no stops. Then it all gets normalized really quickly, after hitting some stop signs, lights, or anything. An opposite can also happen (really silly low numbers over first few miles due to stop-and-go traffic). I think you need to burn at least 5 gallons before the computer calculated average starts resembling anything real. Beforehand you experience small number phenomenon, when small number divided by another small number can have huge result divergence with small difference of input numbers.

qbrozen

dino001 said:

My current 430 GC is exceptionally efficient for its dynamic performance capabilities. When commuting, I generally have a light-to-moderate-weight foot, and I get 29-31 mpg, depending on actual conditions between particular fillups. It's about 40-60 percent light highway traffic (60 mph+) and rest is usually a heavy stop-and-go or city. If I go pure interstate in light traffic, I get 34-38 mpg, depending on prevailing speed and incline. Even heavy traffic will drop it only to mid-20s. I think that engine and transmission is a marvel of technology. From what I read, BMW has been able to edge out MB in fuel efficiency for years (in same generation and vehicle type), even if by decreasing margin. But it is premium, so owners of regular gas vehicles get 10-15 percent head start.

I swear everyone other than me travels DOWNHILL ALL THE TIME!

;b

dino001

qbrozen said:

dino001 said:

My current 430 GC is exceptionally efficient for its dynamic performance capabilities. When commuting, I generally have a light-to-moderate-weight foot, and I get 29-31 mpg, depending on actual conditions between particular fillups. It's about 40-60 percent light highway traffic (60 mph+) and rest is usually a heavy stop-and-go or city. If I go pure interstate in light traffic, I get 34-38 mpg, depending on prevailing speed and incline. Even heavy traffic will drop it only to mid-20s. I think that engine and transmission is a marvel of technology. From what I read, BMW has been able to edge out MB in fuel efficiency for years (in same generation and vehicle type), even if by decreasing margin. But it is premium, so owners of regular gas vehicles get 10-15 percent head start.

I swear everyone other than me travels DOWNHILL ALL THE TIME!

;b

LOL. I live in Tampa, so when I go to say Atlanta, there is a constant gradual net incline and then back there is a constant gradual net downhill. The difference can be 3 or even 5 mpg, if there is also some difference in traffic, or wind.

suydam

Well, today my neighbor plowed into my Encore just as I was pulling into my condo complex and rounding the curve. She never saw me — until she hit me. She is a very sweet lady and is quite mortified, so I can’t be too mad at her. The speeds were low, but, wow, my drivers side door looks pretty stoved in. I can open it but it won’t close all the way. It may take a couple of days for her insurance folks to assess the damage. It quite a feeling to suddenly realize that the oncoming person a) is in your part of the roadway b) doesn’t see you and c) is going to hit you RIGHT NOW and there’s nothing you can do about it. Just yesterday I noticed that we had bought the Encore exactly 4 years ago — nary a scratch till now.

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is. Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it. She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental. I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have. They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it. I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it. I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws. I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time. Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer. jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked. I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

YIKES, if I did that with Mrs. j's Subie, I'd blame it on her. Maybe you can confirm this with our retired mail carrier, @Sandman6472, but I remember hearing a good while ago that if a mail truck is stopped on the side of a public or private road without using their emergency flasher, the Post Office is liable for any accident because of this. Good luck trying to prove that but that's what I have heard. jmonroe

That would mean that if I need bodywork done on my car all I need to do is drive around until I see a mail truck pulled over to the side of the road without their emergency flashers on aim for it and get up to ramming speed.

I don't think so.

stickguy

Bummer on the encore. At least seems clear it’s on her. Sounds like a good application for the full auto brake nanny package (or giving up the keys instead!}

ruking1

dino001 said:

ruking1 said:

Yes I post per tank full (36-37.5 mpg) .Tank full it’s usually shortly after the low fuel lamp comes on. So for example, for certain legs, the computer can post 49.8 mpg for 120 miles. I really don’t post that because that can be misleading.

I sometimes get those silly high numbers in first few miles after the fillup, when I go constant moderate speed, no stops. Then it all gets normalized really quickly, after hitting some stop signs, lights, or anything. An opposite can also happen (really silly low numbers over first few miles due to stop-and-go traffic). I think you need to burn at least 5 gallons before the computer calculated average starts resembling anything real. Beforehand you experience small number phenomenon, when small number divided by another small number can have huge result divergence with small difference of input numbers.

It would look like you would agree the average is the keyword and best measure.

For the example that I gave it is really reality if I do the 120 miles @ 49.8 mpg and take on fuel @ that point. But still it is NOT the average. So my 36 to 37.8 MPG is normally between 450 and 560 miles per tank full.

bwia

suydam said:

Well, today my neighbor plowed into my Encore just as I was pulling into my condo complex and rounding the curve. She never saw me — until she hit me. She is a very sweet lady and is quite mortified, so I can’t be too mad at her. The speeds were low, but, wow, my drivers side door looks pretty stoved in. I can open it but it won’t close all the way. It may take a couple of days for her insurance folks to assess the damage. It quite a feeling to suddenly realize that the oncoming person a) is in your part of the roadway b) doesn’t see you and c) is going to hit you RIGHT NOW and there’s nothing you can do about it. Just yesterday I noticed that we had bought the Encore exactly 4 years ago — nary a scratch till now.

Sorry to hear that. Your Encore is the same model year as my wife's, and in that time she has been able to remain blemish free.

abacomike

Yesterday morning, after using my bathroom facilities and shaving, I noticed a puddle of water to the right and rear of the toilet.  I immediately shut off the water to the toilet to avoid any more leaking.  I called my maintenance contractor who covers me for appliances, HVAC, and internal electric wiring to have them send out a plumber to determine the source of the leak.  First appointment I could get was for tomorrow (Wed.) between 11:00 and 3:00.  So I am using the master bedroom facilities.

From what I could gather, since the water was puddling away from the toilet base, my guess is that the rubber seal between the commode and the toilet joint is no longer sealing that joint properly.  I noticed some left to right movement of the commode when flushing which means they need to replace the rubber seal.  The toilets are 29 years old so it’s just a matter of time for their useful lives.

I’ll know for sure tomorrow.  They replaced the wax seals on both toilets 2 years ago and the internal parts of the leaking toilet recently. My guess is that they did not properly “seat” the commode over the bottom of the toilet and that caused the leaking.  Since I turned off the water, no leaking is evident even though there is water in the toilet bottom - just the commode is empty.

Never a dull moment in a 29 year old condo.

ruking1

You might want to talk to your city, local water supplier. They may give you a discount if you had been using way too much water due to an undiscovered leak.

jmonroe1

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

driver100 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have.
They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it.

I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it.

I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws.

I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time.

Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer.

jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked.



I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

YIKES, if I did that with Mrs. j's Subie, I'd blame it on her.

Maybe you can confirm this with our retired mail carrier, @Sandman6472, but I remember hearing a good while ago that if a mail truck is stopped on the side of a public or private road without using their emergency flasher, the Post Office is liable for any accident because of this. Good luck trying to prove that but that's what I have heard.

jmonroe

It's not as bad as it looks. Just the bumper cover and tail light. I looked up the parts online and it's around $550. Since the stealers body shop is doing it, it will probably be about $2,500.

A while back I mentioned that a guy across the street from the house Son #1 is in the process of flipping, backed out of his drivway and just barely touched my Genny on the lowest part of the rear right quarter panel, it cost $1335 to fix it. If you blinked you wouldn't see it. I know there is no such thing as a $200 bump these days but that price really surprised me. If the guy didn't come over and tell me about it, I doubt I would have seen it till the first Spring waxing.

jmonroe

dino001

ruking1 said:

dino001 said:

ruking1 said:

Yes I post per tank full (36-37.5 mpg) .Tank full it’s usually shortly after the low fuel lamp comes on. So for example, for certain legs, the computer can post 49.8 mpg for 120 miles. I really don’t post that because that can be misleading.

I sometimes get those silly high numbers in first few miles after the fillup, when I go constant moderate speed, no stops. Then it all gets normalized really quickly, after hitting some stop signs, lights, or anything. An opposite can also happen (really silly low numbers over first few miles due to stop-and-go traffic). I think you need to burn at least 5 gallons before the computer calculated average starts resembling anything real. Beforehand you experience small number phenomenon, when small number divided by another small number can have huge result divergence with small difference of input numbers.

It would look like you would agree the average is the keyword and best measure.

For the example that I gave it is really reality if I do the 120 miles @ 49.8 mpg and take on fuel @ that point.

Not necessarily, considering it's only 2.4 gallons burnt. At this small levels fuel pumps can bounce and refuse to fuel even within a gallon. Underfill it by 0.2 gallons and your real mileage is 46 mpg, miss it by half gallon and you are now at 41 mpg. You'd have to be a master of precision to fill it to exactly same point as previously and use preferably same pump.

abacomike

ruking1 said:

You might want to talk to your city, local water supplier. They may give you a discount if you had been using way too much water due to an undiscovered leak.

It only started leaking yesterday.  But even so, the condo association pays the water bill - there was less than a few ounces of water on the floor by the toilet.  Nothing serious because I caught it quickly.

stickguy

I never bother to hand calculate. Once I know how the trip computer runs, I just look at that and adjust as needed if it runs high or low.

though I guess I should hand calc a few tanks on the new car to find out. Just a huge pain to hunt around to fiind the trip ODO on that

explorerx4

@ruking1,
I guess I am to blame for getting you into this mess, since I'm the one that thought 21 mpg for a gas GLK was too low, posting that on another discussion.
Don't worry too much about jmonroe1, probably a bad day and he's a newbie.
Kind of an inside joke on this discussion

driver100

suydam said:

Well, today my neighbor plowed into my Encore just as I was pulling into my condo complex and rounding the curve. She never saw me — until she hit me. She is a very sweet lady and is quite mortified, so I can’t be too mad at her. The speeds were low, but, wow, my drivers side door looks pretty stoved in. I can open it but it won’t close all the way. It may take a couple of days for her insurance folks to assess the damage. It quite a feeling to suddenly realize that the oncoming person a) is in your part of the roadway b) doesn’t see you and c) is going to hit you RIGHT NOW and there’s nothing you can do about it. Just yesterday I noticed that we had bought the Encore exactly 4 years ago — nary a scratch till now.

Sorry to hear about your crunch....that can happen so easily, people get a little careless when driving in their complex....they assume no one else could possibly driving the other way at the same time.

So we recently had the Encore and the Subie...do these things happen in 3's?

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

driver100 said:

venture said:

I'm taking my Legacy to the shop today to get the rear bumper cover replaced. My insurance company insists I use Enterprise for a rental. When I talked to Enterprise they asked what brand, model, and year my car is.

Why would they need to know that? It has no bearing on anything. I asked and the lady just said it's a question on the form she is using. I suspect it's a question my insurance company wants them to ask...at least I hope that's it.

She also said I will have to provide a credit card. Why? I'm not paying for the rental.

I might just rent one from the dealer.

I think they try to match you up with a similar car, because that is what the insurance company wants you to have.
They want your credit card in case something goes wrong with collecting from the insurance company and if for some reason there are additional charges...say you use the rental longer than they will pay for....or you damage it.

I think their requests are fair and in line.

Yeah. I agree. I rarely rent a car and it seemed more complicated than the last time I did it.

I ended up with a Murano. Actually, for an SUV, it's pretty nice. It has all the doo-das and gee-haws.

I'll be glad when the Legacy is finished.

I guess I missed the reason you had to have the bumper cover replaced. Can you please say why one more time.

Thanks, a fellow PA tax payer.

jmonroe

I didn't say, but since you asked.



I backed into a mail truck. He has a few hundred feet where he can park and he parks right across from my driveway. He tricked me this time. He parked about 20 feet upgrade so I couldn't see him in the mirror.

YIKES, if I did that with Mrs. j's Subie, I'd blame it on her.

Maybe you can confirm this with our retired mail carrier, @Sandman6472, but I remember hearing a good while ago that if a mail truck is stopped on the side of a public or private road without using their emergency flasher, the Post Office is liable for any accident because of this. Good luck trying to prove that but that's what I have heard.

jmonroe

That would mean that if I need bodywork done on my car all I need to do is drive around until I see a mail truck pulled over to the side of the road without their emergency flashers on aim for it and get up to ramming speed.

I don't think so.

I said I heard that and I also said, "good luck trying to prove it..." And let's not forget that deliberately trying to screw the government is not the wisest thing to do unless you're like me when I do my taxes.

jmonroe

ruking1

explorerx4 said:

@ruking1,
I guess I am to blame for getting you into this mess, since I'm the one that thought 21 mpg for a gas GLK was too low, posting that on another discussion.
Don't worry too much about jmonroe1, probably a bad day and he's a newbie.
Kind of an inside joke on this discussion

No harm no foul! 😜🤪

ruking1

abacomike said:

ruking1 said:

You might want to talk to your city, local water supplier. They may give you a discount if you had been using way too much water due to an undiscovered leak.

It only started leaking yesterday.  But even so, the condo association pays the water bill - there was less than a few ounces of water on the floor by the toilet.  Nothing serious because I caught it quickly.

When you get on the board of directors, that’s one item to pay attention to.😎 When you have a sharp management, in which you paid big bucks and a very good Board of Directors they can save you literally hundreds of thousands of $’s

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

suydam said:

Well, today my neighbor plowed into my Encore just as I was pulling into my condo complex and rounding the curve. She never saw me — until she hit me. She is a very sweet lady and is quite mortified, so I can’t be too mad at her. The speeds were low, but, wow, my drivers side door looks pretty stoved in. I can open it but it won’t close all the way. It may take a couple of days for her insurance folks to assess the damage. It quite a feeling to suddenly realize that the oncoming person a) is in your part of the roadway b) doesn’t see you and c) is going to hit you RIGHT NOW and there’s nothing you can do about it. Just yesterday I noticed that we had bought the Encore exactly 4 years ago — nary a scratch till now.

Sorry to hear about your crunch....that can happen so easily, people get a little careless when driving in their complex....they assume no one else could possibly driving the other way at the same time.

So we recently had the Encore and the Subie...do these things happen in 3's?

Well they better not. We are going out to dinner pretty soon and I'll be driving the Subie. That thing suffered a parking lot hit-and-run a few years back that cost me my $500 deductible. If you guys remember, that's when I got the 2015 Black Altima as the rental that got a few, "nice looking car" comments. Still not worth the 500 bucks it cost me. :@

jmonroe

ruking1

Specify a better grade of car. Lower the deductible. 😎

jmonroe1

ruking1 said:

Specify a better grade of car. Lower the deductible. 😎

It's not worth the gas mileage bump.

jmonroe