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oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

Plus remember the Hindenburg.

Of course if the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would have gone up even quicker and hotter, so that may not be a compelling argument.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline no one for a mile would have survived. Google “fuel-air explosion”.

oldfarmer50

PF_Flyer said:

Chipmunks chewed on my wiring harness a couple of years ago. I started the car and it was running very rough and belching smoke with a flashing CEL. Had to have it towed to the shop where they found the damage and the short that was throwing off engine timing. Fortunate that I didn't damage the engine. Cost me a couple of hundred for repair. Ever since, the Bucket of Death has been in the chipmunk business

I take it the bucket of death is where you place a half filled bucket with a ramp and some tasty bait.

Before I store my barn car I toss a lot of mouse poison everywhere and then salt the whole barn with mothballs. That’s worked so far. Having a cat helps too.

ab348

stickguy said:

man, watching the news, and feel back for our Colorado contingent. What a mess. Also reminds me why I have no interest in every moving back up north. Central south (NC, tenn.) seems much nicer place.

I was channel surfing and switched to KTLA News out of L.A. thinking they might have some coverage of the Dodgers collapse last night. Instead it was constant helicopter coverage of a brush fire that was consuming mobile home parks in the Calimesa area of Riverside County. Scary how quickly it traveled given the windy conditions.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

Plus remember the Hindenburg.

Of course if the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would have gone up even quicker and hotter, so that may not be a compelling argument.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline no one for a mile would have survived. Google “fuel-air explosion”.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would never have gotten off the ground.

tjc78

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

Plus remember the Hindenburg.

Of course if the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would have gone up even quicker and hotter, so that may not be a compelling argument.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline no one for a mile would have survived. Google “fuel-air explosion”.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would never have gotten off the ground.

lol I was thinking the same thing.

ab348

So just imagine how lightweight hydrogen cars would be! We might get flying cars after all!!!

sda

abacomike said:

Well, I made it up here to Ponte Vedra. Torrential rains from Ft. Pierce to St. Augustine. 4-1/2 hours to drive 297 miles. Not bad considering the weather.

Going over to my Brothers Mercedes dealership to get wiper blades. The ones on the car are 2 years old and are not doing a very good job of clearing the windshield.

We are 75 years old today. I felt younger yesterday, that's for sure.

Happy Birthday to you both! Enjoy

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

Well, I made it up here to Ponte Vedra. Torrential rains from Ft. Pierce to St. Augustine. 4-1/2 hours to drive 297 miles. Not bad considering the weather.

Going over to my Brothers Mercedes dealership to get wiper blades. The ones on the car are 2 years old and are not doing a very good job of clearing the windshield.

We are 75 years old today. I felt younger yesterday, that's for sure.

Don’t sell yourself short. I read today that a 97 year old just won a Nobel prize.

Your best days are ahead.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

Plus remember the Hindenburg.

Of course if the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would have gone up even quicker and hotter, so that may not be a compelling argument.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline no one for a mile would have survived. Google “fuel-air explosion”.

If the Hindenburg was filled with gasoline it would never have gotten off the ground.

It wouldn’t have made any difference.

https://youtu.be/EKg1Eo5hZ5o

snakeweasel

Got a call from the dealership earlier this evening, The Hyundai is ready to be picked up. Old car, new engine.

stickguy

since it was free, sounds like a good deal to me.

roadburner

tjc78 said:

@roadburner @graphicguy

Good friend of mine wants to re-do his basement system, but wants it all more or less hidden.

We can do in-walls for LCR & surround, but I'm really trying to push him toward a traditional sub either next to the equipment rack OR in the area under the stairs.

He is thinking slim mount subs behind the TV cabinet or under couch

Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-133830-Ssw-10-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B07K82KQTK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=KESEW0JWE22W&keywords=monoprice+slim+subwoofer&qid=1570710600&sprefix=monoprice+slim+su,aps,229&sr=8-1

I'm thinking two at least.

Thoughts? This is a fairly low budget build as far as these things go. He was looking at some in wall subs, but I'm afraid they will rattle.

I'm not a fan of in-wall-subs; I'd look at these:
Dayton Audio SUB-1000L
Dayton Audio SUB-1200
Klipsch R-10SWI
Polk Audio PSW10

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

Got a call from the dealership earlier this evening, The Hyundai is ready to be picked up. Old car, new engine.

Sounds like one of few wins at the dealer. Now you just have to baby the transmission.

tjc78

roadburner said:

tjc78 said:

@roadburner @graphicguy

Good friend of mine wants to re-do his basement system, but wants it all more or less hidden.

We can do in-walls for LCR & surround, but I'm really trying to push him toward a traditional sub either next to the equipment rack OR in the area under the stairs.

He is thinking slim mount subs behind the TV cabinet or under couch

Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-133830-Ssw-10-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B07K82KQTK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=KESEW0JWE22W&keywords=monoprice+slim+subwoofer&qid=1570710600&sprefix=monoprice+slim+su,aps,229&sr=8-1

I'm thinking two at least.

Thoughts? This is a fairly low budget build as far as these things go. He was looking at some in wall subs, but I'm afraid they will rattle.

I'm not a fan of in-wall-subs; I'd look at these:
Dayton Audio SUB-1000L
Dayton Audio SUB-1200
Klipsch R-10SWI
Polk Audio PSW10

Thanks! The Klipsch and Polk I had sent him, the Dayton looks to be a good value.

I’ve had a Klipsch for years and still love it.

ab348

Bad crash here overnight (1:30AM) on a city street with a 30mph limit. Passenger is fine but driver is hanging on by a thread.






Obviously the R8 was hooning around when it got away from the operator.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

Bad crash here overnight (1:30AM) on a city street with a 30mph limit. Passenger is fine but driver is hanging on by a thread.






Obviously the R8 was hooning around when it got away from the operator.

Yikes! How fast must he have been going to do all that damage.

Around here we just saw the first anniversary of a limousine crash that killed 20. Brakes failed on a long steep hill and the limo ran over a couple of people in a cafe parking lot before flying into the woods. Understandably a lot of emotion and finger pointing at the owners.

Then today they revealed the place where the limo was serviced falsified repair records and didn’t do the brake work they billed for. Brakes failed a few months later.

(Day 2 of being unable to post pictures)

ab348

I remember that limo crash. Awful.

Here there is a bit of a kerfuffle going on about those pictures I linked. They were posted by a couple of different news orgs overnight on their websites. Some people on social media are trying to shame them for doing so. The argument is that the car is highly recognizable, the driver is in a fight for his life, what if family had not yet been notified, what if what if etc etc.

I think it is silly in that while the car is indeed unique to the city, where do you draw the line? If it was a white Corolla would it be OK to show them? Or if it was 12 hours later? Some are arguing such pictures should never be shown, which is a form of censorship I could never support. The argument is that they are only posted to attract clicks, or for ghoulishness. They even argue the same should hold true for house fires or other disaster pictures. I guess they do not value a free press in this age of safe spaces and the like.

BTW the only way I can post pictures is to find them online and post a link (format is shown in my post if you quote it). Cannot attach a local picture now for weeks.

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Bad crash here overnight (1:30AM) on a city street with a 30mph limit. Passenger is fine but driver is hanging on by a thread.






Obviously the R8 was hooning around when it got away from the operator.

Yikes! How fast must he have been going to do all that damage.

Around here we just saw the first anniversary of a limousine crash that killed 20. Brakes failed on a long steep hill and the limo ran over a couple of people in a cafe parking lot before flying into the woods. Understandably a lot of emotion and finger pointing at the owners.

Then today they revealed the place where the limo was serviced falsified repair records and didn’t do the brake work they billed for. Brakes failed a few months later.

(Day 2 of being unable to post pictures)

IIRC, wasn’t that the limo place that had multiple vehicles in service that failed inspection?

tjc78

I have no problems posting pictures from PC (WIN 10 latest build and Chrome). What I've been doing and works great is, just take a screen shot of the picture with Windows, then just CTRL-V in the posting window.

On mobile, you have to Request desktop site then it works fine (at least on Iphone)

ab348

tjc78 said:

I have no problems posting pictures from PC (WIN 10 latest build and Chrome). What I've been doing and works great is, just take a screen shot of the picture with Windows, then just CTRL-V in the posting window.

OK, let's try that...

Nope, nada.

Tried PrtnScrn key, Shift+PrntScrn, Ctrl+PrntScrn, WinKey+PrntScrn, and even just a right-click "copy" command on the image. No response to any of them with Ctrl-V in the posting box.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

I remember that limo crash. Awful.

Here there is a bit of a kerfuffle going on about those pictures I linked. They were posted by a couple of different news orgs overnight on their websites. Some people on social media are trying to shame them for doing so. The argument is that the car is highly recognizable, the driver is in a fight for his life, what if family had not yet been notified, what if what if etc etc.

I think it is silly in that while the car is indeed unique to the city, where do you draw the line? If it was a white Corolla would it be OK to show them? Or if it was 12 hours later? Some are arguing such pictures should never be shown, which is a form of censorship I could never support. The argument is that they are only posted to attract clicks, or for ghoulishness. They even argue the same should hold true for house fires or other disaster pictures. I guess they do not value a free press in this age of safe spaces and the like.

BTW the only way I can post pictures is to find them online and post a link (format is shown in my post if you quote it). Cannot attach a local picture now for weeks.

I think that news outlets should withhold any information that would easily identify a victim until the family has been notified. Imagine finding out a close family member may be dead from a news report.

venture

ab348 said:

tjc78 said:

I have no problems posting pictures from PC (WIN 10 latest build and Chrome). What I've been doing and works great is, just take a screen shot of the picture with Windows, then just CTRL-V in the posting window.

OK, let's try that...

Nope, nada.

Tried PrtnScrn key, Shift+PrntScrn, Ctrl+PrntScrn, WinKey+PrntScrn, and even just a right-click "copy" command on the image. No response to any of them with Ctrl-V in the posting box.

I can't post pictures using Edge, but I can using Chrome. I put the picture on my desktop and refer to that after clicking on the icon to post a picture.

I don't use my phone to post.

stickguy

Social media posts stuff before traditional news sources most of the time anyway. Besides, the family has to find out somehow, and preferably soon as possible. What’s the difference between a neighbor calling you to check the news, vs. a cop knocking at your door at 2:00 AM?

stickguy

That limo company did have inspection failures, but obviously they took cars in to be fixed. Which IIRC the owner said at the time. The people at Mavis that did this likely being charged with murder now I assume. And should rot in jail.

tjc78

How about dragging the picture file to the window? That works too on my end.

fintail

I wonder if that R8 was at triple digits (mph) when it crashed. I can also make many assumptions about the owner/driver, but I will refrain for now.

Regarding people on social media, it is more like a social disease, not an area for logic and reason.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Bad crash here overnight (1:30AM) on a city street with a 30mph limit. Passenger is fine but driver is hanging on by a thread.






Obviously the R8 was hooning around when it got away from the operator.

Yikes! How fast must he have been going to do all that damage.

Around here we just saw the first anniversary of a limousine crash that killed 20. Brakes failed on a long steep hill and the limo ran over a couple of people in a cafe parking lot before flying into the woods. Understandably a lot of emotion and finger pointing at the owners.

Then today they revealed the place where the limo was serviced falsified repair records and didn’t do the brake work they billed for. Brakes failed a few months later.

(Day 2 of being unable to post pictures)

IIRC, wasn’t that the limo place that had multiple vehicles in service that failed inspection?

Oh yeah, they were sleazy big time but it seems that the repair shop was just as sleazy. They charged for a brake fluid flush and a master cylinder replacement but didn’t do it. Later, the dirty brake fluid boiled and the lines ruptured. The limo should have been off the road for a number of reasons but the repair scam certainly contributed to the disaster.

So now the lawyers will be throwing blame around while 20 people are still dead.

houdini2

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

Is that an 840I?

Ugly grill. Do modern cars have to suck this much air?

sda said:

abacomike said:

Well, I made it up here to Ponte Vedra. Torrential rains from Ft. Pierce to St. Augustine. 4-1/2 hours to drive 297 miles. Not bad considering the weather.

Going over to my Brothers Mercedes dealership to get wiper blades. The ones on the car are 2 years old and are not doing a very good job of clearing the windshield.

We are 75 years old today. I felt younger yesterday, that's for sure.

Happy Birthday to you both! Enjoy

Yes Mike, happy BD to both of you. Have a great day.

cdnpinhead

"Never heard the term Sunny California? It's why we put up with high taxes that get wasted through misallocation and inefficiencies of grand proportions."

Sure, but my point had to do with not mentioning AZ, which has more hellish heat, especially in cities where people actually try to live, than any other state in the country.

Then there's NV, NM, TX . . .

houdini2

ab348 said:

Bad crash here overnight (1:30AM) on a city street with a 30mph limit. Passenger is fine but driver is hanging on by a thread.






Obviously the R8 was hooning around when it got away from the operator.

Yikes, that looks like a ghost walking beside the P.O. in middle pic !

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

Social media posts stuff before traditional news sources most of the time anyway. Besides, the family has to find out somehow, and preferably soon as possible. What’s the difference between a neighbor calling you to check the news, vs. a cop knocking at your door at 2:00 AM?

You're right because your neighbor who calls you up has training and experience in delivering such news and will very likely have a grief counselor on line to help. And your neighbor will be able to answer many of the questions you may have, offer to take you to the hospital and refer you to others who may help you in this matter. So yeah no difference.

ab348

venture said:

I can't post pictures using Edge, but I can using Chrome. I put the picture on my desktop and refer to that after clicking on the icon to post a picture.

I assume you are referring to the icon here above the text box? In my case that is completely non-responsive. Doesn't do a thing.

ab348

fintail said:

I wonder if that R8 was at triple digits (mph) when it crashed. I can also make many assumptions about the owner/driver, but I will refrain for now.

Regarding people on social media, it is more like a social disease, not an area for logic and reason.

More here:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/connaught-avenue-crash-yellow-sports-car-1.5317534

I'm speculating, but I suspect the driver was likely a student attending university here, either from Asia or the Middle East. Most of the supercars here in town are driven by those groups.

Interesting comment in the story about how the cars were not racing. Maybe not but it clearly was traveling very quickly. Aside from the damage to the Audi look at the hydrant that was collateral damage in the story linked. I've seen hydrants sheared off but never one shattered like that.

ab348

tjc78 said:

How about dragging the picture file to the window? That works too on my end.

OK, let's give that a try...

Nope, no dice. I get a circle with a line through it and nothing else.

driver100

Hard to believe the passenger went to the hospital and was released. The R8 should get a 5 star rating.
I guess the Camaro wasn't racing...probably following and watching the action.
It was a nice R8 pre-accident, that yellow looks pretty good on what is left of it.

snakeweasel

Well the Sonata is sitting happily in the driveway now.

venture

ab348 said:

venture said:

I can't post pictures using Edge, but I can using Chrome. I put the picture on my desktop and refer to that after clicking on the icon to post a picture.

I assume you are referring to the icon here above the text box? In my case that is completely non-responsive. Doesn't do a thing.

Mine is unresponsive if I use Edge, but it works with Chrome. Same with the emoticons. If I push the colon key emoticons show up and I can post them that way.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

Well the Sonata is sitting happily in the driveway now.

What kind of warranty did they give on this new engine?

Hey, look at that, I can now post pictures again. Someone up there was listening.


The limo that crashed:

tjc78

snakeweasel said:

stickguy said:

Social media posts stuff before traditional news sources most of the time anyway. Besides, the family has to find out somehow, and preferably soon as possible. What’s the difference between a neighbor calling you to check the news, vs. a cop knocking at your door at 2:00 AM?

You're right because your neighbor who calls you up has training and experience in delivering such news and will very likely have a grief counselor on line to help. And your neighbor will be able to answer many of the questions you may have, offer to take you to the hospital and refer you to others who may help you in this matter. So yeah no difference.

Neighbor may offer you a cup of coffee

ab348

venture said:

Mine is unresponsive if I use Edge, but it works with Chrome. Same with the emoticons. If I push the colon key emoticons show up and I can post them that way.

That's what I have to do also.

ab348

suydam said:

At least Cleveland never willingly gave up their franchise. I think it would be sad if Cincinnati gave up on the Bengals. Cheering for a losing team is kind of its own bonding experience, and then when or if they finally make good, it’s really a point of pride for the city. Think of the Cubs. I’m still hoping for the Indians to win a World Series before I die.

Cincinnati is on top in something sports-related at least:

https://thecomeback.com/nfl/cincinnati-is-now-officially-the-capital-of-postseason-misery.html

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Well the Sonata is sitting happily in the driveway now.

What kind of warranty did they give on this new engine?

They extended the warranty on affected vehicles to 10 years 120k miles, the new engine will have the remainder of that warranty. so around 2 years and just over 20k miles.

ab348

snakeweasel said:

They extended the warranty on affected vehicles to 10 years 120k miles, the new engine will have the remainder of that warranty. so around 2 years and just over 20k miles.

Do you know if it is a "new new" engine or a new rebuilt one?

explorerx4

Picking up my new car tomorrow.
Here's a quick video of the exterior.
http://vid.dmotorworks.com/vid5/?client=FORD&mediaID=8D891B923C3C3193E05357824D64582C

28firefighter

Nice, @explorerx4 !

stickguy

nice. this replacing the Fusion?

explorerx4

Yes replacing the Fusion.
It's a Reserve 1 with Reserve upgrade pkg.
Heated steering wheel and rear seats and upgraded Revel sound system.
I've been wanting one for years and finally pulled the trigger.
Drove the exact same car, different color, last weekend and another dealer but I got this one about $600 cheaper on the bottom line.

tjc78

Sweet! I like the MKZ. Fully loaded too. Enjoy!

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

They extended the warranty on affected vehicles to 10 years 120k miles, the new engine will have the remainder of that warranty. so around 2 years and just over 20k miles.

Do you know if it is a "new new" engine or a new rebuilt one?

Innards are new so rebuilt.

snakeweasel

explorerx4 said:

Picking up my new car tomorrow.
Here's a quick video of the exterior.
http://vid.dmotorworks.com/vid5/?client=FORD&mediaID=8D891B923C3C3193E05357824D64582C

Nice, enjoy it.