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stickguy

it's like the supermarket, when the line is long and they open up a new lane. Everyone rushes to that one, leaving the original lane the short one!

driver100

Usually when that happens, I am in 2nd or 3rd place in the original line, a new cashier comes on, everyone behind me goes to the new line and gets through fast, and I get behind the guy who can't find his credit card or forgets his PIN number....or a little old lady who only has change and has to count out every penny.

andres3

VEHICLE CODE - VEH
DIVISION 11. RULES OF THE ROAD [21000 - 23336] ( Division 11 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )
CHAPTER 3. Driving, Overtaking, and Passing [21650 - 21760] ( Chapter 3 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

ARTICLE 1. Driving on Right Side [21650 - 21664] ( Article 1 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

21650.
Upon all highways, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing that movement.

(b) When placing a vehicle in a lawful position for, and when the vehicle is lawfully making, a left turn.

(c) When the right half of a roadway is closed to traffic under construction or repair.

(d) Upon a roadway restricted to one-way traffic.

(e) When the roadway is not of sufficient width.

(f) When the vehicle is necessarily traveling so slowly as to impede the normal movement of traffic, that portion of the highway adjacent to the right edge of the roadway may be utilized temporarily when in a condition permitting safe operation.

(g) This section does not prohibit the operation of bicycles on any shoulder of a highway, on any sidewalk, on any bicycle path within a highway, or along any crosswalk or bicycle path crossing, where the operation is not otherwise prohibited by this code or local ordinance.

(h) This section does not prohibit the operation of a transit bus on the shoulder of a state highway in conjunction with the implementation of a program authorized pursuant to Section 148.1 of the Streets and Highways Code on state highways within the areas served by the transit services of the Monterey-Salinas Transit District or the Santa Cruz Metropolitan Transit District.

(Amended by Stats. 2013, Ch. 426, Sec. 2. (AB 946) Effective January 1, 2014.)

imidazol97

Son sent this picture from their trip. It'd be kind of expensive to bring it home if they won it.
Note the car is from Lamborghini of Auckland... LOL

imidazol97

I'm not much into NFL football, understatement since I sort of enjoy OSU football.

But the recent Bengal losses added to some of the local Cincy political discussions about the raw deal paying for the stadium for the Bengals at the expense of County residents brings an interesting point.

The stadium deal for the Bengals runs out in a few years. And has to be renewed. The Bengals get all sorts of stuff for the stadium and control votes over development in the area around it--while the County taxpayers guarantee them the income from a sell out on the stadium seats.

The radio talk was to put it to a vote whether to have the Bengals get paid to stay, probably building them another new stadium..., or the residents of the County could vote to not pay an incentive for them to stay and the Bengals can stay or go on their own dime.

I'd bet at this point the referendum would be a "No" vote that they could leave.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

Son sent this picture from their trip. It'd be kind of expensive to bring it home if they won it.
Note the car is from Lamborghini of Auckland... LOL

Whatever it costs to bring it home....I am sure it will be worth it. Do you get the poster too?

ab348

The NFL would love to put a team in London, I hear. The Bengals might make a good option for that. The team has been underperforming for a long time due to ownership issues mostly, and a lot of players do not want to play for Cincy. The franchise needs a reboot.

andres3

roadburner said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

If I was spending under $50k and didn’t wasn’t to patronize Munich or Ingolstadt I’d take a CX-5 over any domestic FWD based CUV.

The CX-5 is probably a more fun to drive car. But, I would take the Lincoln for comfort and for the looks and feel of the luxury it provides. The Lincoln wins for looks:

Have you looked at the interiors in the newer Mazdas? It’s not a stretch to say that they rival Audi and BMW. The last Lincolns I seriously considered owning were the Mark VII LSC and the LS.

I can't go so far as to compare Mazda interior to the luxury makes, but they've stepped up their game. Of course, my recent model experience is in the newer Mazda 3 (lower line, but top trimming).

ab348

Mazda is trying to make their interiors compete with lux/near-lux brands but they still trail in many areas. Their in-car infortainment tech is far behind those other brands, and the digital portion of the instrument cluster tends to look like something from 7 or 8 years ago. They are trying, but still have a ways to go. The biggest problem here at least is that their popular vehicles sell mostly in the lower trims, so if you bought a $40K plus CX-5, you see yourself coming and going all day long with all the sub-$30K GX models running around. Being a relatively small company they have a hard time investing in what is needed to stay fully competitive with the big guys.

Michaell

imidazol97 said:

I'm not much into NFL football, understatement since I sort of enjoy OSU football.

But the recent Bengal losses added to some of the local Cincy political discussions about the raw deal paying for the stadium for the Bengals at the expense of County residents brings an interesting point.

The stadium deal for the Bengals runs out in a few years. And has to be renewed. The Bengals get all sorts of stuff for the stadium and control votes over development in the area around it--while the County taxpayers guarantee them the income from a sell out on the stadium seats.

The radio talk was to put it to a vote whether to have the Bengals get paid to stay, probably building them another new stadium..., or the residents of the County could vote to not pay an incentive for them to stay and the Bengals can stay or go on their own dime.

I'd bet at this point the referendum would be a "No" vote that they could leave.

Cincinnati is working to bring an MLS team to town, and they'll need their own stadium. Not sure how much of that is meant to be paid for by the taxpayers.

imidazol97

Michaell said:

imidazol97 said:

I'm not much into NFL football, understatement since I sort of enjoy OSU football.

But the recent Bengal losses added to some of the local Cincy political discussions about the raw deal paying for the stadium for the Bengals at the expense of County residents brings an interesting point.

The stadium deal for the Bengals runs out in a few years. And has to be renewed. The Bengals get all sorts of stuff for the stadium and control votes over development in the area around it--while the County taxpayers guarantee them the income from a sell out on the stadium seats.

The radio talk was to put it to a vote whether to have the Bengals get paid to stay, probably building them another new stadium..., or the residents of the County could vote to not pay an incentive for them to stay and the Bengals can stay or go on their own dime.

I'd bet at this point the referendum would be a "No" vote that they could leave.

Cincinnati is working to bring an MLS team to town, and they'll need their own stadium. Not sure how much of that is meant to be paid for by the taxpayers.

Lots. They already sneaked that through with lots of turmoil. Still on-going conflicts. City money. State of Ohio money. Why should the public pay to build public stadiums. Cincy now has the Red baseball park, the Bengals exclusive use stadium, and a new soccer stadium being shoehorned into a near downtown site. AND they have a trolley to nowhere that runs a circuit downtown on tracks.

The parallel of course is that some states and localities gave big money to car companies to build auto plants in their areas.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

bwia said:

In a Massachusetts affluent town, north of Boston, WAZE directed traffic is banned during morning and evening rush hours. Don't know how they are enforcing this but it is a good idea.

They did that in Fort Lee & a few other towns in NJ right on the other side of the GW Bridge. Certain streets are for local residents only. They enforce it too with BIG, flashing signs, & a traffic enforcement officer.

How is that legal?

28firefighter

I'd love to know that, too. Waze updates in real time. And what if someone just decided to take back roads without waze? Do they get a ticket, too?

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

At that price, I'd say, "it is something I can't afford".

jmonroe

snakeweasel

andres3 said:

VEHICLE CODE - VEH
DIVISION 11. RULES OF THE ROAD [21000 - 23336] ( Division 11 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )
CHAPTER 3. Driving, Overtaking, and Passing [21650 - 21760] ( Chapter 3 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

ARTICLE 1. Driving on Right Side [21650 - 21664] ( Article 1 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

21650.
Upon all highways, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing that movement.

(b) When placing a vehicle in a lawful position for, and when the vehicle is lawfully making, a left turn.

(c) When the right half of a roadway is closed to traffic under construction or repair.

(d) Upon a roadway restricted to one-way traffic.

(e) When the roadway is not of sufficient width.

(f) When the vehicle is necessarily traveling so slowly as to impede the normal movement of traffic, that portion of the highway adjacent to the right edge of the roadway may be utilized temporarily when in a condition permitting safe operation.

(g) This section does not prohibit the operation of bicycles on any shoulder of a highway, on any sidewalk, on any bicycle path within a highway, or along any crosswalk or bicycle path crossing, where the operation is not otherwise prohibited by this code or local ordinance.

(h) This section does not prohibit the operation of a transit bus on the shoulder of a state highway in conjunction with the implementation of a program authorized pursuant to Section 148.1 of the Streets and Highways Code on state highways within the areas served by the transit services of the Monterey-Salinas Transit District or the Santa Cruz Metropolitan Transit District.

(Amended by Stats. 2013, Ch. 426, Sec. 2. (AB 946) Effective January 1, 2014.)

So basically it says "dont drive into oncoming traffic".

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

imidazol97 said:

Son sent this picture from their trip. It'd be kind of expensive to bring it home if they won it.
Note the car is from Lamborghini of Auckland... LOL

Whatever it costs to bring it home....I am sure it will be worth it. Do you get the poster too?

Yes you can win this Lamborghini and a big fat tax bill that's more than what most people earn in a year.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

bwia said:

In a Massachusetts affluent town, north of Boston, WAZE directed traffic is banned during morning and evening rush hours. Don't know how they are enforcing this but it is a good idea.

They did that in Fort Lee & a few other towns in NJ right on the other side of the GW Bridge. Certain streets are for local residents only. They enforce it too with BIG, flashing signs, & a traffic enforcement officer.

How is that legal?

Aren't these the type of things that are legal untill a successful challenge proves they ain't? Happens all the time.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

Is that an 840I?

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

bwia said:

In a Massachusetts affluent town, north of Boston, WAZE directed traffic is banned during morning and evening rush hours. Don't know how they are enforcing this but it is a good idea.

They did that in Fort Lee & a few other towns in NJ right on the other side of the GW Bridge. Certain streets are for local residents only. They enforce it too with BIG, flashing signs, & a traffic enforcement officer.

How is that legal?

Aren't these the type of things that are legal untill a successful challenge proves they ain't? Happens all the time.

jmonroe

I'm pretty sure traffic laws that prevent trough traffic from cutting through residential streets have been upheld.

nyccarguy

I’ve relegated myself to not even begin to wrap my head around how municipalities work and waste money. One of the biggest asphalt plants in the State of Connecticut is located right here in Stamford. There are apparently 2 certifications of “green” asphalt. They meet the 1st, but are not in compliance with the 2nd. The city of Stamford will not buy asphalt from this plant. Instead the send (2) City workers per asphalt truck to drive to The Bronx (NYC at least 45 minutes away) to buy asphalt. Instead of starting to do actually work at 8:00 am, they don’t start until 10:30 or 11:00 am.

dino001

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

Is that an 840I?

At that price I think it’s M8.

snakeweasel

nyccarguy said:

I’ve relegated myself to not even begin to wrap my head around how municipalities work and waste money. One of the biggest asphalt plants in the State of Connecticut is located right here in Stamford. There are apparently 2 certifications of “green” asphalt. They meet the 1st, but are not in compliance with the 2nd. The city of Stamford will not buy asphalt from this plant. Instead the send (2) City workers per asphalt truck to drive to The Bronx (NYC at least 45 minutes away) to buy asphalt. Instead of starting to do actually work at 8:00 am, they don’t start until 10:30 or 11:00 am.

Well I've always said "to err is human, to really screw things up requires government involvement".

snakeweasel

dino001 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

Is that an 840I?

At that price I think it’s M8.

The dealership I got the wifes car at had an i8 on the showroom floor, cant remember the price but it had a sticker on it saying $25k off.

venture

"Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot."

It's not necessary that high end people sell high end cars.

stickguy

the salespeople aren't getting squatola out of the deal, so they have no reason to waste time on it.

28firefighter

stickguy said:

the salespeople aren't getting squatola out of the deal, so they have no reason to waste time on it.

This. Doesn’t make it right but the only one who wins in this case is the GM and owner.

abacomike

Michaell said:

imidazol97 said:

I'm not much into NFL football, understatement since I sort of enjoy OSU football.

But the recent Bengal losses added to some of the local Cincy political discussions about the raw deal paying for the stadium for the Bengals at the expense of County residents brings an interesting point.

The stadium deal for the Bengals runs out in a few years. And has to be renewed. The Bengals get all sorts of stuff for the stadium and control votes over development in the area around it--while the County taxpayers guarantee them the income from a sell out on the stadium seats.

The radio talk was to put it to a vote whether to have the Bengals get paid to stay, probably building them another new stadium..., or the residents of the County could vote to not pay an incentive for them to stay and the Bengals can stay or go on their own dime.

I'd bet at this point the referendum would be a "No" vote that they could leave.

Cincinnati is working to bring an MLS team to town, and they'll need their own stadium. Not sure how much of that is meant to be paid for by the taxpayers.

Beckham just closed a deal with Ft. Lauderdale and Miami for an MLS team down here. They are transforming a rundown stadium in Ft. Lauderdale into a huge stadium to bring a Miami team into South Florida. The final home for the team will be a magnificent stadium in Miami. So 2-3 years in Ft. Lauderdale and when the Miami facility is completed, they will move there.

suydam

At least Cleveland never willingly gave up their franchise. I think it would be sad if Cincinnati gave up on the Bengals. Cheering for a losing team is kind of its own bonding experience, and then when or if they finally make good, it’s really a point of pride for the city. Think of the Cubs. I’m still hoping for the Indians to win a World Series before I die.

stickguy

Cincinatti would not be quitting the franchise. Just not giving them a crazy deal giving up the store.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

At that price, I'd say, "it is something I can't afford".

jmonroe

Maybe you can get a wannabe copy car instead.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

Is that an 840I?

Very close. It’s a M8. 4.4L turbo, 617 hp. 0-60 in 2.8 seconds.

It will get you into bankruptcy even faster.

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

the salespeople aren't getting squatola out of the deal, so they have no reason to waste time on it.

Yep they get nothing, not even a referral.

houdini2

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

Is that an 840I?

Ugly grill. Do modern cars have to suck this much air?

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

Saw the BMW Genius Saturday, I had figured out most things either by reading the manual or just playing around with the car. However she was able to answer a few questions and clear up a couple of things I wasn't quite sure of. Overall it was a good experience.

Afterwards we took a drive in the country and went apple picking. It was a good day.

Picked up a bunch of brand new BMW 330i from a local dealer today. Not only did they not give us a genius they gave us the bum’s rush. We were told our cars were “out there somewhere” as he pointed towards the woods. We had to search a back lot full of cars in pouring rain and put the registration stickers and plates on ourselves. The dealer only included 2 screws for both plates so needless to say some of the cars were driving with plates hanging sideways.

Oh yeah, no gas in them at all.

We not only got the feel of the road but also the feel of a muddy parking lot.

They did have one of these in the showroom:



$156,000 sticker. Can you guess what it is?

At that price, I'd say, "it is something I can't afford".

jmonroe

Maybe you can get a wannabe copy car instead.

Are you saying I should get a G70? Maybe one in each color.

jmonroe

PF_Flyer

Maybe you need several colors so you can switch depending on how you feel on a given day

jmonroe1

PF_Flyer said:

Maybe you need several colors so you can switch depending on how you feel on a given day

That's what I was thinking too. Just won't be black, white or old mans gray like my Genny.

jmonroe

bwia

I'm in the market for a new mattress and foundation. Some time ago there was much discussion about the Casper brand but I can't remember what the verdict was on that.

I'm planning to ship that mattress to my Caribbean home so I'm particularly interested in a supportive hybrid foam queen size warm-climate mattress, something not too warm or not too hot and most importantly it can be shipped in a box. I would appreciate your sleeping experience with Casper or any brand that comes in a box. Thanks!

oldfarmer50

bwia said:

I'm in the market for a new mattress and foundation. Some time ago there was much discussion about the Casper brand but I can't remember what the verdict was on that.

I'm planning to ship that mattress to my Caribbean home so I'm particularly interested in a supportive hybrid foam queen size warm-climate mattress, something not too warm or not too hot and most importantly it can be shipped in a box. I would appreciate your sleeping experience with Casper or any brand that comes in a box. Thanks!

Just make sure it’s something the bugs don’t like.

Say how have you weathered (no pun intended) all these storm raging through the Caribbean this year?

carnaught

bwia said:

I'm in the market for a new mattress and foundation. Some time ago there was much discussion about the Casper brand but I can't remember what the verdict was on that.

I'm planning to ship that mattress to my Caribbean home so I'm particularly interested in a supportive hybrid foam queen size warm-climate mattress, something not too warm or not too hot and most importantly it can be shipped in a box. I would appreciate your sleeping experience with Casper or any brand that comes in a box. Thanks!

Check out a Purple 2 mattress. It’s a hybrid mattress, firm but not too much so, and has cooling technology. The latter works for us in this heat zone.

tjc78

tjc78 said:

Lincoln typically offers some pretty heavy incentives. It's price is inline with it's competitors. The XT4 gets pricey really quickly and is an Equinox underneath.

I bet it does pretty well. I can see some people thinking of it as a baby Navigator.

Ok ... who flagged this as abuse? Really?

stickguy

seems innocuous. I know that I accidentally hit the report button sometimes (especially on a portable device) thanks to clunky fingers. usually catch it, but a few times I think it got submitted before I could. Then I felt bad.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

tjc78 said:

Lincoln typically offers some pretty heavy incentives. It's price is inline with it's competitors. The XT4 gets pricey really quickly and is an Equinox underneath.

I bet it does pretty well. I can see some people thinking of it as a baby Navigator.

Ok ... who flagged this as abuse? Really?

I’m with Stick on this, probably a miss on the quote button.

oldfarmer50

Opinions needed.

What do the experts think of the 2008-12 Chevy Malibu 2.4L as basic transportation? Is it reliable? Are there any weak points? I’ve read about oil burning but not much else.

abacomike

Tomorrow morning, right after rush hour, I am driving up the coast to my brothers place in Ponte Vedra (just north of St. Augustine and just south of Jacksonville) for a long weekend to celebrate our birthday together. It's 301 miles door-to-door.

I take the Turnpike north to Ft. Pierce and then I pick up I-95 the rest of the way and exit at County Road 210 East to Nocatee. I usually stop for a quick hamburger halfway up there.

He is taking me to Ruth's Cris for dinner Thursday night - our birthday.

What's nice about driving up there in the S450 is the Distronic Driver's Assistance system which steers inside the lane and changes lanes autonomically. It makes for a more relaxing trip. I turn on the massage feature to soothe my aching back. The only problem I am going to have is heavy rains for the first 150+ miles.

Always nice to get away for awhile. 😛😜🤪

ab348

tjc78 said:

tjc78 said:

Lincoln typically offers some pretty heavy incentives. It's price is inline with it's competitors. The XT4 gets pricey really quickly and is an Equinox underneath.

I bet it does pretty well. I can see some people thinking of it as a baby Navigator.

Ok ... who flagged this as abuse? Really?

Wasn't me. As others have noted, it is an easy error to make with this format.

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

Tomorrow morning, right after rush hour, I am driving up the coast to my brothers place in Ponte Vedra (just north of St. Augustine and just south of Jacksonville) for a long weekend to celebrate our birthday together. It's 301 miles door-to-door.

I take the Turnpike north to Ft. Pierce and then I pick up I-95 the rest of the way and exit at County Road 210 East to Nocatee. I usually stop for a quick hamburger halfway up there.

He is taking me to Ruth's Cris for dinner Thursday night - our birthday.

What's nice about driving up there in the S450 is the Distronic Driver's Assistance system which steers inside the lane and changes lanes autonomically. It makes for a more relaxing trip. I turn on the massage feature to soothe my aching back. The only problem I am going to have is heavy rains for the first 150+ miles.

Always nice to get away for awhile. 😛😜🤪

Hamburger for lunch, steak for dinner? Who cares if you enjoy the drive.

carnaught

abacomike said:

Tomorrow morning, right after rush hour, I am driving up the coast to my brothers place in Ponte Vedra (just north of St. Augustine and just south of Jacksonville) for a long weekend to celebrate our birthday together. It's 301 miles door-to-door.

I take the Turnpike north to Ft. Pierce and then I pick up I-95 the rest of the way and exit at County Road 210 East to Nocatee. I usually stop for a quick hamburger halfway up there.

He is taking me to Ruth's Cris for dinner Thursday night - our birthday.

What's nice about driving up there in the S450 is the Distronic Driver's Assistance system which steers inside the lane and changes lanes autonomically. It makes for a more relaxing trip. I turn on the massage feature to soothe my aching back. The only problem I am going to have is heavy rains for the first 150+ miles.

Always nice to get away for awhile. 😛😜🤪

@abacomike, Happy Birthday Mike, in advance! Have a safe trip.

driver100

carnaught said:

abacomike said:

Tomorrow morning, right after rush hour, I am driving up the coast to my brothers place in Ponte Vedra (just north of St. Augustine and just south of Jacksonville) for a long weekend to celebrate our birthday together. It's 301 miles door-to-door.

I take the Turnpike north to Ft. Pierce and then I pick up I-95 the rest of the way and exit at County Road 210 East to Nocatee. I usually stop for a quick hamburger halfway up there.

He is taking me to Ruth's Cris for dinner Thursday night - our birthday.

What's nice about driving up there in the S450 is the Distronic Driver's Assistance system which steers inside the lane and changes lanes autonomically. It makes for a more relaxing trip. I turn on the massage feature to soothe my aching back. The only problem I am going to have is heavy rains for the first 150+ miles.

Always nice to get away for awhile. 😛😜🤪

@abacomike, Happy Birthday Mike, in advance! Have a safe trip.

+1 Have a hamburger for me, or even better a steak.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

Opinions needed.

What do the experts think of the 2008-12 Chevy Malibu 2.4L as basic transportation? Is it reliable? Are there any weak points? I’ve read about oil burning but not much else.

Can't help more than you probably already know (when in doubt, Google it) but I assume they are pretty solid and reliable. Maybe not the most exciting, but not what you are likely looking for!

maybe too rich for your blood, but I know you love your low mile hoopties, and this one qualifies. Should have a lot of life left in it!

https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2012-chevrolet-malibu-ls-used-1g1za5eu2cf393815.html