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snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

“ Always always buy a matching pair....only JMonroe would have olive green and white. You may as well bite the bullet, they both will never go at the same time.”

What’s wrong with a rattle can paint job to make them the same color? Man, you rich guys like to throw your money away.🤪

Sounds like my B-I-L....painted his 12 year old Ranger Truck dark pea green (probably got the paint on sale) with a paint roller.

How often do you drive your washer/dryer down the road? Doesn’t have to be perfect.

I just repainted a door on my van with rattle cans. Looks pretty good compared to the rest of the rust bucket.

Why is my mind picturing the Possum Van that Red Green drove?

tjc78

I like everything to match. Our new kitchen is all GE except the fridge which is a Samsung.

It’s the French door one with the giant tablet thing. What a gimmick... I would have never paid for it.

Also, the ice maker wasn’t working when we got in the house. It was all iced up like an old freezer that didn’t defrost. Looked it up and apparently it’s a “big deal”. Class action lawsuits, etc.

I defrosted it with a hair dryer and towels to sop it up. It’s working now and so far no ice buildup. I’ll have to keep an eye on it.

28firefighter

snakeweasel said:

45 years ago this very night the Edmund Fitzgerald sailed into history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw

And became a delicious beer.

driver100

andres3 said:

snakeweasel said:

andres3 said:

Shark vacuum from Costco. 5-Year warranty. 1-year later, after two calls in, they diagnosed I need a new "head unit" for the floor vacuuming. Shipping and taxes stated not to be covered by the warranty by the guy on the phone. I said in retort that there was no tax on warranty or shipping, and he agreed. I'm getting charged $19.99 for shipping.

If this diagnosis is faulty I will expect:

1) No shipping charges on additional parts from faulty diagnosis to make the thing work right again.
2) Refund the $19.99 if they can't do #1.

They really should cover shipping, at least the first 2 years.

I would say that if they are shipping you a part that you yourself are replacing they should cover shipping if it's being replaced under warranty.

I agree; but he said the fine print states what it states on the warranty. Seemed easier to believe him and pay the $19.99. However, the part he's sending better not lead to other needed parts. Overall disappointed in the so-called "5-year" warranty though.

Sort of like if Audi charged me for shipping a rear differential from Germany, but covered the part.

The only thing a warranty tells me is the company probably believes their product will last that long and not give any trouble. I don't really think they are going to make me whole again if I have a problem. Probably part payment minus paying for any life remaining, or free parts, but charge for labor - I have had that happen, and labor is usually a lot more than the part.

driver100

When we had the business we bought these knock off printer cartridges....real ones were about $120 and these were about $60.
One day the cartridge blew up and there was ink all over inside the printer and it messed up various parts.
It took our IT specialist guy about a day to fix the printer and get it running again (probably $200 in labor).
The guy who sold us the cartridge said it blew up at the 50% point....he said he would refund us $30.....half what we paid for it.
I told him to get out and to never come back again.

jmonroe1

dino001 said:

jmonroe1 said:

dino001 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

“ Always always buy a matching pair....only JMonroe would have olive green and white. You may as well bite the bullet, they both will never go at the same time.”

What’s wrong with a rattle can paint job to make them the same color? Man, you rich guys like to throw your money away.🤪

My dishwasher is black Bosch, stove and microwave are black stainless GE and Whirlpool, respectively, the fridge is stainless Whirlpool. They were bought at different times, I'd have bought black stainless Bosch, but they didn't offer it then. It kind of works, I don't care even if it doesn't. W/D are same white Frigidaire, but I'm not buying a pair if/when the washer goes first, unless they throw the dryer "free" or so deeply discounted I won't be able to refuse. They're sitting in a closet, who'd care if they looked different? I won't.

About your washer/dryer, you think too logically. Probably has a lot to do with your profession. Now, that kitchen stuff, I can tell you’re not married. 😗

jmonroe

LOL. Funny thing my mother "approved" it when she was visiting - she's never been shy to tell me something is wrong, so it can't be that terrible. But she is practical in her approach, too. Probably has something to do with not wasting perfectly good machines, when you are raised a country with more scarce resources and during most of your life having to buy what Party chose for you

I think I have an appreciation for the condition under which you and your mother lived with because my parents lived through the depression here in the states. I heard many stories about what people went through back in those dark times. Everybody learned to live without and make do with what they had and watching how you spent what little money you had was paramount.

I’m sure you’ve heard the stories about how he/she is so tight that when they squeezed the buffalo nickel the buffalo cried. In my house that would have been a good day for the buffalo because by the time my mother was finished squeezing that nickel it was the size of a quarter.

jmonroe

pensfan83

28firefighter said:

snakeweasel said:

45 years ago this very night the Edmund Fitzgerald sailed into history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw

And became a delicious beer.

Yes, yes it did.

suydam

driver100 said:

I think I will have my work cut out for me:

I think I will call the guy!

We used to just blow them into the woods.

suydam

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares? Especially if they're hidden in a laundry room. In my very small kitchen I have an LG stove and microwave, Samsung refrigerator and a Bosch dishwasher. They are all stainless and they all look great. The days of matching appliance sets are long gone. I have Whirlpool washer and dryer, not that thrilled with them but they were the only ones that fit in our space. Most new ones are just too big these days.

stickguy

washers and dryers are just different, since they are a set and park right next to each other. Also depends on how visible they are (hidden in the corner of the basement, less of an issue than if the laundry room is very noticeable).

both new, and very similar, is not a big deal. The issue is more like JMonroe and is antique green one with some random different generation model.

tjc78

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares? Especially if they're hidden in a laundry room. In my very small kitchen I have an LG stove and microwave, Samsung refrigerator and a Bosch dishwasher. They are all stainless and they all look great. The days of matching appliance sets are long gone. I have Whirlpool washer and dryer, not that thrilled with them but they were the only ones that fit in our space. Most new ones are just too big these days.

I just disagree on this. In our old home right before we moved out the over the stove microwave went. We had all matching Kenmore stainless in the kitchen that were about ten years old. I replaced the microwave with a bottom barrel Samsung from Lowe’s. It had a different handle, and display color from the stove below it. If I was still living there it would drive me nuts.

Washers and dryers... like mentioned. If I’m a finished laundry room they must match, unfinished basement not as big an issue. One thing to note. If you buy a new HE washer with the large tub it may hold way more clothing than the older dryer can handle.

snakeweasel

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

snakeweasel

driver100

snakeweasel said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

But I walk by them when I come in and go out to the garage.....I want them to look like a set when I see them. Not have one olive green and one harvest gold like some people would do.





Once when we were looking for a new house about 20 years ago this one home had a rec room with wood paneling in the basement....that really thin stuff. He put a fridge on the other side of the wall and then he cut out a hole where the fridge door was.....kind of looked like an bad attempt to have a Sub-Zero fridge.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

Ditto.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

But I walk by them when I come in and go out to the garage.....I want them to look like a set when I see them. Not have one olive green and one harvest gold like some people would do.





Once when we were looking for a new house about 20 years ago this one home had a rec room with wood paneling in the basement....that really thin stuff. He put a fridge on the other side of the wall and then he cut out a hole where the fridge door was.....kind of looked like an bad attempt to have a Sub-Zero fridge.

How do you bear the shame of having those horribly mismatched appliances?☹️ White and off white, what were you thinking? How do you show your face in the neighborhood? Get the guy in there right away to throw a blanket or something over them!😡

When I replaced my washer I brought a color wheel with me to insure that the white shade matched the white of the dryer AND my cargo van.

One must keep up appearances, mustn’t one.🧐

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

But I walk by them when I come in and go out to the garage.....I want them to look like a set when I see them. Not have one olive green and one harvest gold like some people would do.





Once when we were looking for a new house about 20 years ago this one home had a rec room with wood paneling in the basement....that really thin stuff. He put a fridge on the other side of the wall and then he cut out a hole where the fridge door was.....kind of looked like an bad attempt to have a Sub-Zero fridge.

How do you bear the shame of having those horribly mismatched appliances?☹️ White and off white, what were you thinking? How do you show your face in the neighborhood? Get the guy in there right away to throw a blanket or something over them!😡

When I replaced my washer I brought a color wheel with me to insure that the white shade matched the white of the dryer AND my cargo van.

One must keep up appearances, mustn’t one.🧐

Says the man who has a cargo van.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

But I walk by them when I come in and go out to the garage.....I want them to look like a set when I see them. Not have one olive green and one harvest gold like some people would do.





Once when we were looking for a new house about 20 years ago this one home had a rec room with wood paneling in the basement....that really thin stuff. He put a fridge on the other side of the wall and then he cut out a hole where the fridge door was.....kind of looked like an bad attempt to have a Sub-Zero fridge.

How do you bear the shame of having those horribly mismatched appliances?☹️ White and off white, what were you thinking? How do you show your face in the neighborhood? Get the guy in there right away to throw a blanket or something over them!😡

When I replaced my washer I brought a color wheel with me to insure that the white shade matched the white of the dryer AND my cargo van.

One must keep up appearances, mustn’t one.🧐

Says the man who has a cargo van.

lol........a rusted out one at that

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

But I walk by them when I come in and go out to the garage.....I want them to look like a set when I see them. Not have one olive green and one harvest gold like some people would do.





Once when we were looking for a new house about 20 years ago this one home had a rec room with wood paneling in the basement....that really thin stuff. He put a fridge on the other side of the wall and then he cut out a hole where the fridge door was.....kind of looked like an bad attempt to have a Sub-Zero fridge.

How do you bear the shame of having those horribly mismatched appliances?☹️ White and off white, what were you thinking? How do you show your face in the neighborhood? Get the guy in there right away to throw a blanket or something over them!😡

When I replaced my washer I brought a color wheel with me to insure that the white shade matched the white of the dryer AND my cargo van.

One must keep up appearances, mustn’t one.🧐

Says the man who has a cargo van.

lol........a rusted out one at that

Yeah, but the parts that still have paint match my washer and dryer.🥳

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares?

I would say as long as they both work who cares, they're not conversation pieces sitting in the living room.

But I walk by them when I come in and go out to the garage.....I want them to look like a set when I see them. Not have one olive green and one harvest gold like some people would do.





Once when we were looking for a new house about 20 years ago this one home had a rec room with wood paneling in the basement....that really thin stuff. He put a fridge on the other side of the wall and then he cut out a hole where the fridge door was.....kind of looked like an bad attempt to have a Sub-Zero fridge.

How do you bear the shame of having those horribly mismatched appliances?☹️ White and off white, what were you thinking? How do you show your face in the neighborhood? Get the guy in there right away to throw a blanket or something over them!😡

When I replaced my washer I brought a color wheel with me to insure that the white shade matched the white of the dryer AND my cargo van.

One must keep up appearances, mustn’t one.🧐

Says the man who has a cargo van.

lol........a rusted out one at that

Yeah, but the parts part that still have has paint match my washer and dryer.🥳

There it's fixed.

graphicguy

@driver100 ...maybe I missed it, or you didn’t mention it, but have you traveled back to FL? Or, is crossing borders an issue for Canadians moving back and forth?

Appliances....yeah, I know. We go down in the rabbit hole talking about them. Still, until the Holidays, we’re left with other mechanical devices to chat about.

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

We all have those brands we won’t buy again because of poor customer service. Mine are obvious in the automotive world. Y’all know the entire story and the brand in question.

Whirlpool has put me through appliances hell over the years and continues to do so. I’ve had issues with just about every appliance I’ve ever bought from them over the last decade. The last vestige of Whirlpool in my home is a counter oven. I don’t cook like I used to given my son no longer lives in my house, and the GF is only around on weekends. So, it’s rare that I use my stove.

I found one of those nice counter ovens that cooks, dehydrates, air fries, all sorts of stuff. It heats up easily and is easy to clean. A couple of years ago, there were a slew of these “smart” ovens that hit the market....June, Anova, Breville, etc. Whirlpool has one called WLabs....allegedly the best they can make.

After a “dance” I went around with them over a Microwave that would only stay on for 11 seconds, they issued me a “Whirlpool credit” for any of their products. I’d been sitting on it for a couple of years until I finally found something from them I might want.

Enter this beast.... https://wlabsinnovations.com/pages/smart-oven

It started out as a $500 smart counter oven. Wouldn’t be worth it to me as the credit I had was for $200. They recently lowered the price of the counter oven to $200. I jumped on it.

Not one to turn a mountain out of a molehill, Whirlpool disappointed yet again last week. There’s a temp probe that it uses to tell you when your food is done. It’s never worked. I went around and around with Whirlpool to just send me a new temp probe, as the one it came with didn’t work. It’s maybe a $1 part.

Nope...they want to send out a repair person (on my dime) to see what’s wrong. If it’s the temp probe, they’ll reimburse me for the service call. No...No...NO!

Give them the chance to disappoint, and they’ll pass with flying colors.

I can still use the oven as a toaster oven, but not as a “smart oven”.

snakeweasel

graphicguy said:

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

In reality how often do you see some ones washer and dryer when you visit their house? In most houses you would have to be snooping to see them.

graphicguy

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

In reality how often do you see some ones washer and dryer when you visit their house? In most houses you would have to be snooping to see them.

Good point. But, I think the GF is thinking more about when I put my house on the market and begin to show it. Mentioned a few months ago, I wanted to downsize. Covid hit and those plans were put on hold. I won’t have any problems selling my house. I just haven’t found anything I want to buy.

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

suydam said:

stickguy said:

I agree with the GF About getting a matching set if you are planning to sell. It really can make a big difference. Because people are weird!

As long as they are the same color and look similar, who cares? Especially if they're hidden in a laundry room. In my very small kitchen I have an LG stove and microwave, Samsung refrigerator and a Bosch dishwasher. They are all stainless and they all look great. The days of matching appliance sets are long gone. I have Whirlpool washer and dryer, not that thrilled with them but they were the only ones that fit in our space. Most new ones are just too big these days.

I just disagree on this. In our old home right before we moved out the over the stove microwave went. We had all matching Kenmore stainless in the kitchen that were about ten years old. I replaced the microwave with a bottom barrel Samsung from Lowe’s. It had a different handle, and display color from the stove below it. If I was still living there it would drive me nuts.

Washers and dryers... like mentioned. If I’m a finished laundry room they must match, unfinished basement not as big an issue. One thing to note. If you buy a new HE washer with the large tub it may hold way more clothing than the older dryer can handle.

I’m noticing the same thing. The new W/D hold a whole lot more than the old ones did. Not that I need it. But, It’ll probably cut laundry time in ½ for me.

ab348

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

washers and dryers are just different, since they are a set and park right next to each other. Also depends on how visible they are (hidden in the corner of the basement, less of an issue than if the laundry room is very noticeable).

both new, and very similar, is not a big deal. The issue is more like JMonroe and is antique green one with some random different generation model.

While at our first two houses that color combo sat in the basement. The only time it was seen was when you washed clothes or used the deep sink. Still had those appliances when we moved to SC but in that house the laundry room was off of the kitchen but that room had a door. Still no problem. When we moved back to the Burch in 1997 we sold that mis-matched color set to the guy I hired to pack the H-Hauls. That was the only dryer we had since we built our first home in 1969 and it still worked when the guy bought it. It was an electric dryer and I had to repair it a few times because of wires that burnt off at the “fast-on” terminals in a few places.

FWIW, we got that avacodo green dryer to match the avacodo green washer that was purchased at Penney’s a few months earlier (couldn’t afford both at the same time and we weren’t going to put it on a charge card). So, you can see we were color conscious at one time but grew out of it as the years past. Just in case anyone is interested, that dryer was made by GE. I know that because when I did the repairs I just mentioned, I could see many GE inspection stamps in various places.

jmonroe

dino001

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I can confirm that - wet fingers, splash from boiling water, sometimes even liquefied steam from the kettle can either lock it or sometimes trigger changes. I thought it was cool at first, now it is just annoying. I'd take regular rotary knobs every day. Same with oven buttons - regular sealed press buttons are much better than those touch capacitors. But well, the rest is great, so I just deal with it. Have to wipe it dry and tolerate cacophony of chimes when doing so. Once it's dry and my fingers are dry, it works.

driver100

graphicguy said:

@driver100 ...maybe I missed it, or you didn’t mention it, but have you traveled back to FL? Or, is crossing borders an issue for Canadians moving back and forth?
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GG, First, I think your girlfriend makes an excellent point about mismatched appliances. It tells you something about the people in the house and possibly the way they care for the house. And, those things become a slippery slope for homes and cars, let one thing go, then the next, then the next, pretty soon there is too much to fix and your home or car become junk...too much to fix. Like most things, whether you or others can see it or not....there is an element of pride in what you own.....or no pride. If it is an affordability factor that is different, but you should do what you can.

We are still at home in Canada. Technically, there is no recreational travel permitted between Canada and the U.S. There is a loophole though, if you fly there is no problem. Since we fly now we could go. Although we would love to be in the sunshine we have a lot more activities we can do at home, plus our hospitals and medical plans make it safer to be here........and family and friends.
I was reading in todays newspaper a guy will fly you to Buffalo in a helicopter, and he will transport your car on a truck across the border....he flies you across and you get into your car and drive the 1200 miles to Florida from there....for about $2500 total flights and car across the border. Lots of people still want to be in Florida, especially if they have arthritis or an ailment where the sun helps.

I don't feel like putting snow tires on the car for the 4 or 5 snowfalls we will get....hope the AWD will be enough.

venture

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

In reality how often do you see some ones washer and dryer when you visit their house? In most houses you would have to be snooping to see them.

I don't care if anyone else can see them. I can see them. They have to match.

When I re-did our kitchen we got all Whirlpool appliances (except the microwave). That meant replacing the Samsung refrigerator that we bought about 2 or 3 years prior.

andres3

I remember doing a rattle can fix to a poorly black power-coated patio canopy set from Home Depot that probably used cheap Chinese steel and was rusting after just a few years. Sold the Condo that way; looked good and didn't need the "man" though I did have to get a couple cans since most gets into the air.

driver100

andres3 said:

looked good and didn't need the "man" though I did have to get a couple cans since most gets into the air.

I think you mean "The Guy".

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I trust a dial or a button a lot more than a circuit board.

driver100

venture said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

In reality how often do you see some ones washer and dryer when you visit their house? In most houses you would have to be snooping to see them.

I don't care if anyone else can see them. I can see them. They have to match.

When I re-did our kitchen we got all Whirlpool appliances (except the microwave). That meant replacing the Samsung refrigerator that we bought about 2 or 3 years prior.

I just checked our black appliances...Kenmore microwave, GE drop in stove, Whirlpool refrigerator, Bosch dishwasher, you would never know the appliances were all different makes. The builder is a top quality builder, but he buys whatever appliances he can get at the lowest possible price. Some people would only buy one brand of appliance so they would all match. We would like to escape black but it isn't worth it to change everything so we'll stay the course...as long as they all don't go at once.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I trust a dial or a button a lot more than a circuit board.

The digital works can breakdown much easier, especially spilled water or steam getting into them. That is one reason appliances need to be replaced more often these days.

Speaking about warranties......our new Maytag dishwasher in Florida had a 5 year warranty on the grinder blades. What are the odds they are going to break because of a manufacturing defect? When you call the guy to repair it he'll find another thing wrong to add to the repair cost. Besides, probably the blades might get replaced but no recovery for the labor. But, Maytag puts in large letters a sticker on the door that says 5 Year warranty...and in small letter, on the grinder blades.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

venture said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

In reality how often do you see some ones washer and dryer when you visit their house? In most houses you would have to be snooping to see them.

I don't care if anyone else can see them. I can see them. They have to match.

When I re-did our kitchen we got all Whirlpool appliances (except the microwave). That meant replacing the Samsung refrigerator that we bought about 2 or 3 years prior.

I just checked our black appliances...Kenmore microwave, GE drop in stove, Whirlpool refrigerator, Bosch dishwasher, you would never know the appliances were all different makes. The builder is a top quality builder, but he buys whatever appliances he can get at the lowest possible price. Some people would only buy one brand of appliance so they would all match. We would like to escape black but it isn't worth it to change everything so we'll stay the course...as long as they all don't go at once.

It’s a good thing you live in Canada. Having all black kitchen appliances is viewed as being a racist here in the states. The only PC color for kitchen appliances here is stainless steel plus the beer stays colder longer with stainless, win win.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I trust a dial or a button a lot more than a circuit board.

The digital works can breakdown much easier, especially spilled water or steam getting into them. That is one reason appliances need to be replaced more often these days.

Speaking about warranties......our new Maytag dishwasher in Florida had a 5 year warranty on the grinder blades. What are the odds they are going to break because of a manufacturing defect? When you call the guy to repair it he'll find another thing wrong to add to the repair cost. Besides, probably the blades might get replaced but no recovery for the labor. But, Maytag puts in large letters a sticker on the door that says 5 Year warranty...and in small letter, on the grinder blades.

Like the man said, “the BIG print gives it to you but the little print takes it away”. Some things never change.

jmonroe

dino001

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I trust a dial or a button a lot more than a circuit board.

Traditional dials or buttons are simply efficient and not sensitive stupid wet hands, but these “analog” interfaces are processed digitally before the command is executed. So it’s not a matter of a circuit board, but rather the actual effectiveness of the user interface.

ab348

Speaking of smart things that aren't so smart... some years back I bought a CTEK smart battery charger. It is a Swedish company (though the device is made in China of course) and I've used it as a battery tender on the Cutlass over the winter. This is the same device that Porsche and perhaps other high-end manufacturers sell under their own branding.

Today I went to connect it and while the power LED turned on nothing else would work. It has a single pushbutton that you use to select the mode. After several attempts I went inside to check on what was online about the issue. Quickly I found it. The only analog item in the whole gizmo, the mode selection switch, is the common failure point. There are videos of someone wiring in an external switch, while another simply used contact cleaner on it once the case was opened up to access the internals. Unfortunately there is a tamperproof screw on the back of the case that seems like it might be difficult to defeat.

I decided to just cycle the switch many times and occasionally give the case a whack on my palm to see if whatever is preventing the switch from making contact from working might go away. After some time I plugged it in and holy cow, the switch cycled through the modes normally... about 3 times. Then it froze up. Damn. Further treatment did not seem to do any good. I might have to open the thing up after all.

nyccarguy

Speaking of "the guy," my wife's Pilot is at the mechanic today getting an oil (Mobil 1 0W20) change, new (OEM Honda) oil filter, new (OEM Honda) rear differential fluid, & new (OEM Honda) Brake Fluid.

snakeweasel

andres3 said:

I remember doing a rattle can fix to a poorly black power-coated patio canopy set from Home Depot that probably used cheap Chinese steel and was rusting after just a few years. Sold the Condo that way; looked good and didn't need the "man" though I did have to get a couple cans since most gets into the air.

I did the same thing this last summer to a patio set we have that was showing it's age. I few cans of spray paint and they look as good as new.

andres3

The other thing rattle cans work amazing at is painting old diffuser/registers/mechanical HVAC grilles into a modern white. Look as good as new. The trickiest one was the air return, because in someone's infinite wisdom, they nailed that one into the structure, so instead of calling the "guy" or turning it into a bigger project, I painted that one "in-place" by creating a tunnel of plastic up into the air return (ceiling-mounted).

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

Speaking of smart things that aren't so smart... some years back I bought a CTEK smart battery charger. It is a Swedish company (though the device is made in China of course) and I've used it as a battery tender on the Cutlass over the winter. This is the same device that Porsche and perhaps other high-end manufacturers sell under their own branding.

Today I went to connect it and while the power LED turned on nothing else would work. It has a single pushbutton that you use to select the mode. After several attempts I went inside to check on what was online about the issue. Quickly I found it. The only analog item in the whole gizmo, the mode selection switch, is the common failure point. There are videos of someone wiring in an external switch, while another simply used contact cleaner on it once the case was opened up to access the internals. Unfortunately there is a tamperproof screw on the back of the case that seems like it might be difficult to defeat.

I decided to just cycle the switch many times and occasionally give the case a whack on my palm to see if whatever is preventing the switch from making contact from working might go away. After some time I plugged it in and holy cow, the switch cycled through the modes normally... about 3 times. Then it froze up. Damn. Further treatment did not seem to do any good. I might have to open the thing up after all.

I hope you’re not going to tell us they stopped selling can openers and pry bars in Canada.😳

jmonroe

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

venture said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

GF’s theory about matching appliances...if they are mismatched, it gives a vibe surrounding the homeowner’s lack of caring about their abode. Not sure I’d go that far. But, I do think she has a point. If I were to visit someone’s home, and they had one white washer and one grey dryer, I’d probably think they were more focused on money than properly upkeeping their home. Would it make a difference? Dunno. She’s smarter than me, though.

In reality how often do you see some ones washer and dryer when you visit their house? In most houses you would have to be snooping to see them.

I don't care if anyone else can see them. I can see them. They have to match.

When I re-did our kitchen we got all Whirlpool appliances (except the microwave). That meant replacing the Samsung refrigerator that we bought about 2 or 3 years prior.

I just checked our black appliances...Kenmore microwave, GE drop in stove, Whirlpool refrigerator, Bosch dishwasher, you would never know the appliances were all different makes. The builder is a top quality builder, but he buys whatever appliances he can get at the lowest possible price. Some people would only buy one brand of appliance so they would all match. We would like to escape black but it isn't worth it to change everything so we'll stay the course...as long as they all don't go at once.

We are pretty much the same way, three different makes of appliances in the kitchen (D/W & Fridge are Maytag, Stove is LG and M/W is Kenmore) all stainless steel all bought at different times and they all look like they belong together.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I trust a dial or a button a lot more than a circuit board.

The digital works can breakdown much easier, especially spilled water or steam getting into them. That is one reason appliances need to be replaced more often these days.

Speaking about warranties......our new Maytag dishwasher in Florida had a 5 year warranty on the grinder blades. What are the odds they are going to break because of a manufacturing defect? When you call the guy to repair it he'll find another thing wrong to add to the repair cost. Besides, probably the blades might get replaced but no recovery for the labor. But, Maytag puts in large letters a sticker on the door that says 5 Year warranty...and in small letter, on the grinder blades.

On our D/W it also includes Racks and Stainless Steel Tub on the sticker. Plus it's for 10 years,

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

I'm not sure I want any "smart" appliances. I was reading a review yesterday about a GE Smart Range, that has all the functions controlled by a touch screen. The reviewer hated it (as would myself, just on general principles) because as he noted, if your fingers are wet or messy from food prep, it doesn't work correctly, so you can't set things as accurately as you could with a knob.

I trust a dial or a button a lot more than a circuit board.

The digital works can breakdown much easier, especially spilled water or steam getting into them. That is one reason appliances need to be replaced more often these days.

Speaking about warranties......our new Maytag dishwasher in Florida had a 5 year warranty on the grinder blades. What are the odds they are going to break because of a manufacturing defect? When you call the guy to repair it he'll find another thing wrong to add to the repair cost. Besides, probably the blades might get replaced but no recovery for the labor. But, Maytag puts in large letters a sticker on the door that says 5 Year warranty...and in small letter, on the grinder blades.

Like the man said, “the BIG print gives it to you but the little print takes it away”. Some things never change.

jmonroe

For you Star Trek fans the Ferengi say "Small print leads to large risk".

ab348

Yesterday around this time of day I had just finished raking and mulching up the leaves that were in this area. I was quite pleased with the results. Here is what it looks like 24 hours later after the city’s maple tree developed a bad case of the mange overnight.

ab348

jmonroe1 said:

I hope you’re not going to tell us they stopped selling can openers and pry bars in Canada.😳

jmonroe

I couldn't find any tool here that would work on what seemed to be a tamperproof screw head, so I went with the brute force method and just worked on removing the back with 3 of 4 screws removed by twisting and prying. It finally broke free and I discovered it was actually a red plastic plug placed over the screw, so I was able to get the back off. I had a spray can of Deoxit here that I used on stereo receiver switches, which is just fabulous stuff. Long story short, after a few douses with that and copious cycling of the switch, it is now functional! Even better, somehow I didn't actually break anything with my brute force method and the back is safely reattached with all 4 screws. It is now hooked to the Cutlass battery for the winter's sleep. Proud of myself!

stickguy

Our Samsung range and LG fridge match almost identically. Plus are on opposite sides of the room so don’t really see together.

DW doesn’t matter, since that was panel ready so looks like a cabinet. Though if it dies, getting replaced with stainless.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

jmonroe1 said:

I hope you’re not going to tell us they stopped selling can openers and pry bars in Canada.😳

jmonroe

I couldn't find any tool here that would work on what seemed to be a tamperproof screw head, so I went with the brute force method and just worked on removing the back with 3 of 4 screws removed by twisting and prying. It finally broke free and I discovered it was actually a red plastic plug placed over the screw, so I was able to get the back off. I had a spray can of Deoxit here that I used on stereo receiver switches, which is just fabulous stuff. Long story short, after a few douses with that and copious cycling of the switch, it is now functional! Even better, somehow I didn't actually break anything with my brute force method and the back is safely reattached with all 4 screws. It is now hooked to the Cutlass battery for the winter's sleep. Proud of myself!

Good for you.

One of the first things a DIYer learns is that, “where there is a will, there is a way”. The next lesson is that you can’t do everything with a hammer, screw driver and a pair if vice grips. You gotta invest in some tools.

Like I’ve mentioned before we built our first house but just because it was new didn’t mean it had everything. In addition to a tool box of hand tools the only power tools I had was a drill and a circular saw. Those tools weren’t enough to do everything Mrs. j had in mind, so I usually had to buy some kind of a tool to do the job to my satisfaction. After a while she was wise to me and after saying what she would like, she immediately followed that up with, “and what special tool will you need for this job”? Now that she was onto me, it wasn’t as much fun anymore.😫

jmonroe

snakeweasel

Well it looks like I became the hero of the local American Legion. There was a restaurant chain that was giving vouchers to veterans for a free meal once our dear leader here in Illinois opened up restaurants again. So when I picked up mine I asked if I could bring some extra back to the legion. They let me have extras to bring to the local post
Oh were they happy.