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snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

..........it lasted for 11 years! - not very long for an LED.

. One primary feature of the LED is its long life expectancy: it’s often tipped as having a potential lifespan of up to 10 years per bulb. Problem is: real-world tests have shown almost 30% of the bulbs (66 of 230 bulbs) actually failed long before this.
So, how long do LED light bulbs really last?
Unfortunately, there is no simple answer to this question.
The lifespan of LED light bulbs depends on several key factors, but generally speaking the range is anywhere between 10,000-50,000 hours.
That’s a big range, but it means that your LED bulb could last up to 10 years, depending on how extensively it’s used and the conditions it’s used in.
While we can’t definitively say how long a bulb will last for, LED bulbs are still much longer-lasting than their traditional counterparts, as seen in the table below

They tend to detiorate....so time is a big factor. If you are really bored you can read in even more detail;
https://www.hyperikon.com/blog/how-long-do-led-lights-really-last/

driver100

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

To me, a hammer is a hammer....how much technology do you need to pound the c--p out of something?

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

roadburner

So I was looking at an F-Type at the dealer where an old friend from BMW is now working. About the same time I was clearing out some of my older car magazines. One issue of Automobile had a long term wrap-up of an M235i. One writer referred to it as the modern iteration of the E46 M3. Another said that from a standpoint of fun, performance, and everyday usability it was a better choice than the F-Type, 4C, and GT-R. While I think that’s quite a bit of hyperbole, it does reinforce my decision to be very careful what I decide to choose as a replacement for the 2er. I definitely want a coupe and there are few cars that I think I might like better than the 2er- M2C, Cayman, and the 6 cylinder Supra are about it.
FWIW, Automobile was much less enamored with the M550i, preferring the Stinger GT instead. And I’d definitely concur.

explorerx4

@driver100,
We all know roadburner doesn't use the brakes, so give me a break!

isellhondas

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

isellhondas said:

roadburner said:

isellhondas said:

roadburner said:

Rooney the Wonder Dog has dispatched at least six raccoons to that great garbage can in the sky.

What kind of a dog? A lot of dogs are smart enough not take on a raccoon. A cornered raccoon can inflect a lot of damage! They are quick and they are MEAN! Sounds like this dog is up to the task! Does it kill cats too?

He's a "Border Collie/Shepherd mix" according to the Kentucky Humane Society, where we adopted him. He has never shown the slightest bit of aggression to a human, but everything else(save our one cat) is a potential target. One night he killed a raccoon and left it on the side porch then went on to whack a groundhog and leave it on the front porch. He's also killed numerous snakes and chased off a coyote. One day he caught a woodpecker- don't ask me how. I managed to get it away from him and it flew off- apparently unhurt.


And here is proof that he-reluctantly-tolerates our cat:

Sounds like a great dog!

You must have really slow email service....that was from 3 days ago.

Maybe he, unlike us, has a life and cant get here as often,

This is true. I just don't get on as often. I'll try to do better.

isellhondas

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

Wait a minute....You didn't get your check from Nigeria yet either?

jmonroe1

isellhondas said:

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

Wait a minute....You didn't get your check from Nigeria yet either?

Ever since @Sandman6472 retired nobody has gotten those checks.☹️

jmonroe

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

I take it you already have received the money from that foreign sweepstakes.

I’ve received exactly what I expected from both sources - NADA!!!😜🤪🤓

abacomike

Whenever I get those emails from so-called legal representatives of a long lost royal family or a Nigerian entrepreneur, the grammar and spelling is so putrid only dummies would respond - which is exactly what their objective is! 😜🤪🤓

suydam

I’d send that email alert right to the spam folder.

oldfarmer50

isellhondas said:

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

Wait a minute....You didn't get your check from Nigeria yet either?

Didn’t your state give Nigeria $500 million in UI money? They should be able to spare you $26 million.🤑🤑🤑

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

Yeh but we know the truth

driver100

isellhondas said: Wait a minute....You didn't get your check from Nigeria yet either?

oldfarmer50" didn’t your state give Nigeria $500 million in UI money? They should be able to spare you $26 million.

Isell will get back to you in January 2021.

driver100

suydam said:

I’d send that email alert right to the spam folder.

That is what I did.....when in doubt....send to Trash!

roadburner

isellhondas said:

Wait a minute....You didn't get your check from Nigeria yet either?

I love the guys who have the ingenuity and free time to scam the scammers.

tjc78

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

ab348

I think the former Nigerian royalty email scammers have moved on to telephone scamming in recent years.

Sandman6472

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

Sandman6472

In October, was 10 years since I've been gone from Uncle Sam!

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Organizing is for people who can't remember where they put stuff.

tjc78

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

I’d find a retail store going out of business and get it dirt cheap. I also have lots of contacts at store fixture places, so I’d pay wholesale. It’s about $55-60 a 4x8 sheet.

mjfloyd1

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

I remember when people used to talk to pass the time...

stickguy

tomorrow's chore here is finally getting the new shed organized and everything put away, and the last of the crap out of the garage. I bought a new shelf unit at Lowes, now just have to decide where those go and clean up the boxes and other crap. Once that is done, probably getting a piece of pegboard for the end wall so I can hang up the yard tools like the edger and weedwhacker.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

I’d find a retail store going out of business and get it dirt cheap. I also have lots of contacts at store fixture places, so I’d pay wholesale. It’s about $55-60 a sheet.

That still sounds pricey to me. A 4 x 8 sheet of peg board costs just under 20 bucks at Home Depot and that’s before my 10% veterans discount. I’m not sure how close you can get tools to hang on slat board but I doubt you can get it packed as closely as peg board.

As it is, my tools are hanging nose to toe above my 16 foot tool bench. Plus, I have one side wall of the garage packed with other stuff on peg board. Spacing any further apart and I’d have to get a larger garage.

jmonroe

venture

explorerx4 said:

Organizing is for people who can't remember where they put stuff.

That would be me,,,except I didn't organize either.

venture

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

I have an air nailer for the big stuff, but use a battery powered one for trim. I have a tack hammer too.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

We use either use a 12 passenger Chevy van or a Chrysler Pacifica. The crews are either 2 or 3 drivers plus a chase. Sometime the boss will send all the drivers to make deliveries and arrange a similar number to return thus eliminating the need for a chase vehicle.

I’m hoping when this vaccine gets rolling we’re can go back to 6 packs in a mini van and they’ll relax the restrictions, particularly the staggered start times. This has to be costing the company a fortune. Last week we had 6 cars to deliver to a dealer 100 miles away. Previously we could have done most of it with one trip but this time it took 3.

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

I remember when people used to talk to pass the time...

Or sleep.😴😴😴

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

snakeweasel said:

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

I take it you already have received the money from that foreign sweepstakes.

I’ve received exactly what I expected from both sources - NADA!!!😜🤪🤓

You received the National Automotive Dealers Association?

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

I keep my tools in a tool chest. That way people can't see how many hammers I have and ask to borrow one since I have so many.

snakeweasel

mjfloyd1 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

I remember when people used to talk to pass the time...

People still do, it's just that we do it now on social media with people we don't really know who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away.

driver100

This is a good way to see the world from your own home while in lockdown. You go on the site, and you can choose from 50 cities you would want to drive around in. I particularly liked London, Amsterdam, Moscow and New York. Seems they have local radio stations on too. The list of cities is in the upper right corner;
https://driveandlisten.herokuapp.com/

***The snow in Stockholm is fun to see.

sb55

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

I keep getting voicemails on my cell phone from a NYC area code in Chinese. I can only hope they have some money for me as well.

Me too. About 2-3 per day. Mostly 646 area codes but sometimes 212 also.

driver100

mjfloyd1 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

I remember when people used to talk to pass the time...

Now a couple go to a restaurant and pull out their cell phones and talk or text to their friends. Or a family of 4 is at a table each doing something on their tablets.

ab348

sb55 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

omarman said:

driver100 said:

Here is something for youze guys to think about. I got an obit notice in my email that a fellow I supposedly know died. It is from an outfit called Legacy.com, out of Chicago.
I don't know of anyone by this name. There was an interior decorator shop in town (population 25000) and that is the only person I know who has that name. That store has been gone for about 5 years.
Is it possible, they check to see who dies, they notify people in the same town, that way they can target you for more stuff?

That email alert sounds like you have an account with legacy.com. Have you searched or posted to that site?

I’m still waiting for my $26 million from Nigeria! 😜🤪. I also am still waiting for my inheritance from a long lost and forgotten great uncle who lived in Hong Kong! 🤓

I keep getting voicemails on my cell phone from a NYC area code in Chinese. I can only hope they have some money for me as well.

Me too. About 2-3 per day. Mostly 646 area codes but sometimes 212 also.

Phone scammers have mastered the art of spoofing call display numbers. So many of the numbers you see are complete fiction. One would hope the phone carriers would find a way to fix that.

tjc78

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

I’d find a retail store going out of business and get it dirt cheap. I also have lots of contacts at store fixture places, so I’d pay wholesale. It’s about $55-60 a sheet.

That still sounds pricey to me. A 4 x 8 sheet of peg board costs just under 20 bucks at Home Depot and that’s before my 10% veterans discount. I’m not sure how close you can get tools to hang on slat board but I doubt you can get it packed as closely as peg board.

As it is, my tools are hanging nose to toe above my 16 foot tool bench. Plus, I have one side wall of the garage packed with other stuff on peg board. Spacing any further apart and I’d have to get a larger garage.

jmonroe

It’s stronger than pegboard so if you had a sheet running high you could hang a spreader or other heavy items. You can also buy knife brackets and place shelving anywhere you want.

Yes, pegboard with 1” on center holes is more flexible for hanging small items than the 3” on center slots.

mjfloyd1

snakeweasel said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

I remember when people used to talk to pass the time...

People still do, it's just that we do it now on social media with people we don't really know who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away.

No, I mean talk as in moving your lips and making sounds. People nearby hear those sounds with their ears and respond with words...you know, old fashioned talking.

mjfloyd1

oldfarmer50 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

We use either use a 12 passenger Chevy van or a Chrysler Pacifica. The crews are either 2 or 3 drivers plus a chase. Sometime the boss will send all the drivers to make deliveries and arrange a similar number to return thus eliminating the need for a chase vehicle.

I’m hoping when this vaccine gets rolling we’re can go back to 6 packs in a mini van and they’ll relax the restrictions, particularly the staggered start times. This has to be costing the company a fortune. Last week we had 6 cars to deliver to a dealer 100 miles away. Previously we could have done most of it with one trip but this time it took 3.

I’m signed up for vaccine on 12/21 at 8 am.

driver100

mjfloyd1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

We use either use a 12 passenger Chevy van or a Chrysler Pacifica. The crews are either 2 or 3 drivers plus a chase. Sometime the boss will send all the drivers to make deliveries and arrange a similar number to return thus eliminating the need for a chase vehicle.

I’m hoping when this vaccine gets rolling we’re can go back to 6 packs in a mini van and they’ll relax the restrictions, particularly the staggered start times. This has to be costing the company a fortune. Last week we had 6 cars to deliver to a dealer 100 miles away. Previously we could have done most of it with one trip but this time it took 3.

I’m signed up for vaccine on 12/21 at 8 am.

I want one too!

ab348

mjfloyd1 said:

I’m signed up for vaccine on 12/21 at 8 am.

How's that process working down there? Up here it is being very tightly controlled by govt, with the first doses to arrive going to health care workers, the next allotment going to people 80+ yrs of age, then other groups deemed vulnerable until eventually sometime next year it gets to the rest of us poor slobs. I understand that most types will require 2 shots with the second 3-4 weeks after the first, which should slow the process.

mjfloyd1

Indiana University health is one of the systems to provide vaccinations. Due to my job, I was in the first group to be offered a vaccination. Also helpful due to my own health (or lack thereof) history.

First round goes to healthcare workers and nursing homes as I understand it.

Pfizer second shot 21 days later. Moderna is 28 days

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

snakeweasel said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

I remember when people used to talk to pass the time...

People still do, it's just that we do it now on social media with people we don't really know who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away.

No, I mean talk as in moving your lips and making sounds. People nearby hear those sounds with their ears and respond with words...you know, old fashioned talking.

We chit chat in the van but it’s more like middle school banter and teasing so sometimes it’s better to sleep.

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, I know when I'm in our chase vehicle and I'm not driving it then, am usually on my smart phone surfing the web. We have a family plan with 3 lines with 20 gigs of data/month with rollover. As a group, we never go over 5gigs, so have plenty to play with each month. After awhile, it can get boring just looking out the windows so having our cells does make the day much calmer.
We're still at 3 drivers/vehicle and not sure when that number will increase. It's either a Ford transit or Chevy 15 pack. A minivan would work just as well but we do not have a choice. What does Enterprise do in your area?

We use either use a 12 passenger Chevy van or a Chrysler Pacifica. The crews are either 2 or 3 drivers plus a chase. Sometime the boss will send all the drivers to make deliveries and arrange a similar number to return thus eliminating the need for a chase vehicle.

I’m hoping when this vaccine gets rolling we’re can go back to 6 packs in a mini van and they’ll relax the restrictions, particularly the staggered start times. This has to be costing the company a fortune. Last week we had 6 cars to deliver to a dealer 100 miles away. Previously we could have done most of it with one trip but this time it took 3.

I’m signed up for vaccine on 12/21 at 8 am.

My nephew who lives in NYC just came down with covid as did all his room mates in his shared apartment. He’s in his 20s so it’s barely slowing him down but he can’t work for 2 weeks. His sister who works in a nursing home tested positive one day and negative the next. I’m pretty sure I had it back in July but never got tested since I was on lay off at the time and hadn’t gone anywhere for weeks except for my annual check up (where I’m convinced I caught it).

jmonroe1

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

I have an air nailer for the big stuff, but use a battery powered one for trim. I have a tack hammer too.

Bragger. ☹️

jmonroe

venture

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

I have an air nailer for the big stuff, but use a battery powered one for trim. I have a tack hammer too.

Bragger. ☹️

jmonroe

I'll let you use the tack hammer if you want to.

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

I keep my tools in a tool chest. That way people can't see how many hammers I have and ask to borrow one since I have so many.

Good idea.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

I installed the new CHMSL on the Clubman today. It was a very easy fix- I didn't even break out the fire extinguisher. Just remove 8 T20 screws, unplug and snap out the old led panel, and as the Brits sat, installation is the reverse of removal. Another day dancing on the ragged edge of danger...

Oh man you had to use a fancy Torx driver. You got skilz.

Yep, nothing like having the right tool/s when you’re doing a job. I’ll bet he has both a claw hammer and a ripping hammer too and knows the difference without running to Google to look it up.

jmonroe

Not sure why you would have both but what they hey. I'll bet that most people would think they are the same.

You’re right most people don’t know the difference BUT if you’ve done any rough carpentry you know the difference. To save me time trying to explain it, go to Google. AND, hammers have different weights for ease of driving different size nails. It makes no sense to use a 22 ounce hammer to drive carpet tacks. Of course today with air nailers that is my choice and there are different sizes of those too but it saves having to swing a hammer when you got lots of hammering to do. I’d be willing to bet that most young carpenters today look at a traditional hammer as a tool that only takes up space in their tool box and should be avoided unless forced to use it.

jmonroe

Yeah I know there is a difference if you're a professional carpenter. But the average Joe doing DIY work wont really see a difference between the two and would easily get by with one, actually in that situation getting both is a waste of money.

Call me a spendthrift. On top of that it makes my garage peg board look like I know what I’m doing. At least that is what several neighbors have said in each of the 4 houses I have owned. 😀

jmonroe

I have to get some pegboard up in my garage. Either that or slat wall. People always laugh at my pegboard because it’s so well laid out. I can’t help it... all those years micro space planning !

I just looked at the prices of that slat wall stuff, pretty pricey if you ask me. If I bought that slat wall stuff I couldn’t afford the tools to hang them up. I’ve always used peg board and painted it white with a roller to reflect light. Peg board has always worked for me and both of my sons also use it.

Maybe that slat stuff is better suited for yuppy hoods that have the “open concept” style in the main living areas.

jmonroe

I’d find a retail store going out of business and get it dirt cheap. I also have lots of contacts at store fixture places, so I’d pay wholesale. It’s about $55-60 a sheet.

That still sounds pricey to me. A 4 x 8 sheet of peg board costs just under 20 bucks at Home Depot and that’s before my 10% veterans discount. I’m not sure how close you can get tools to hang on slat board but I doubt you can get it packed as closely as peg board.

As it is, my tools are hanging nose to toe above my 16 foot tool bench. Plus, I have one side wall of the garage packed with other stuff on peg board. Spacing any further apart and I’d have to get a larger garage.

jmonroe

It’s stronger than pegboard so if you had a sheet running high you could hang a spreader or other heavy items. You can also buy knife brackets and place shelving anywhere you want.

Yes, pegboard with 1” on center holes is more flexible for hanging small items than the 3” on center slots.

Now you’re seeing things my way. But I agree that the slat wall thingy is better for the heavy stuff but in those cases, I just use concrete block wall anchors.

I think I’d be afraid to use the slat wall system because people might start thinking I’m a designer rather than a doer.

jmonroe