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tjc78

What a game. I lean toward KC because of Andy… but I’ll be rooting for Cincy in the bowl. I’m not a big fan of either team on the NFC side.

qbrozen

We like the Rams. My son follows several of their players. So fingers crossed. Just tied up. But, talk about questionable coaching... I'm baffled why you'd challenge with your last time out when your opponent is set to punt to you.

explorerx4

Bengals D played great, didn't let Mahomes scramble.
Niner's finally succeeded in giving the game away after trying week after week.

stickguy

that was a good finish too. Lots of exciting games the last 2 weeks.

qbrozen

@explorerx4 said:
Bengals D played great, didn't let Mahomes scramble.
Niner's finally succeeded in giving the game away after trying week after week.

IMHO, Mahomes had all the time in the world and just failed to do anything with it. A couple of times he scrambled for what seemed like forever.

venture

qbrozen said:

@explorerx4 said:

Bengals D played great, didn't let Mahomes scramble.

Niner's finally succeeded in giving the game away after trying week after week.

IMHO, Mahomes had all the time in the world and just failed to do anything with it. A couple of times he scrambled for what seemed like forever.

Mahomes didn't play as well as he usually does and made some bad decisions, but the ball hit Hill right in the hands on the deflected interception.

That would have put the ball on about the 40 so who knows what would have happened after that.

tjc78

Let’s all not forget the huge screw up at halftime. Chiefs should have kicked a field goal, but instead wasted the chance.

venture

tjc78 said:

Let’s all not forget the huge screw up at halftime. Chiefs should have kicked a field goal, but instead wasted the chance.

Yes. Mahomes was supposed to throw quickly or ground it if nobody was open so they could kick the field goal. He got greedy.

explorerx4

Bengals D kept Mahomes behind the line of scrimmage. No scrambling for big yards or first downs.

graphicguy

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

Only in Florida....Road rage incident, guy shoots other car right through his own windows: 1 min 18 sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saQ72NZtrS0

Talk about poor control of your weapon. He’s lucky he didn’t shoot himself. Ignoring the illegality of his actions I can’t imagine trying to get your car wrecked by slamming on the brakes or shooting it up.

Once at work our chase driver pulled out a little to close to an oncoming car and the guy followed us onto the highway and did a brake check on us. He was driving a new Jaguar with MD plates. I wouldn’t be taking medical advice from somebody like that.

Stupid people with guns. Scary! Surprised he didn’t shoot himself.

stickguy

Doing that through window.

You’ll shoot your eye out.

graphicguy

jmonroe1 said:

Congrats to the Bengals fans.

Where is @graphicguy? Is he biking back to Cincy or is he on his second bottle of Woodford?

jmonroe

LOL! Yeah….we had a “wing-ding”. Gotta admit, all the people who were at the party thought it was over…..until that stop at the end of the 1st half. We all kind of looked at each other and said….”uh…oh, if we get the stop at the beginning of the 2nd half, we’ll win this game”. I should open up a tarot card reading business.

Woodford? No. Jefferson’s Reserve? Most definitely….along with Montgomery Inn ribs.

FL…nothing against those who reside there, but traveling there when I was still working, in the Spring, Summer and Fall, did not suit me…in the least. Now, if I were able to move to Maui? I could take that year round! But, I’d need @jmonroe1 money to do that!

graphicguy

qbrozen said:

@explorerx4 said:

Bengals D played great, didn't let Mahomes scramble.

Niner's finally succeeded in giving the game away after trying week after week.

IMHO, Mahomes had all the time in the world and just failed to do anything with it. A couple of times he scrambled for what seemed like forever.

We mentioned it watching the game, Bengals adjusted at half time. The reason Mahomes had all day to scramble is because the Bengals were rushing 3 and dropping 8 into coverage. Mahomes couldn’t find an open receiver. Eventually, the front 3 would shed the blocks and pressure Mahomes.

Tales of two 30 minute periods. First 30 minutes, Burrow was out played and Taylor was out coached. Just the opposite in the 2nd half. Mahomes was out played and Andy was out coached. OT, well…as they say, that’s why you draft a kicker.

All week, heard it all….KC is too loud, Chiefs homefield advantage is huge. No way Bengals can win against Mahomes. Well…..they beat the Chiefs not once, but twice this season. And, one of the wins was at Arrowhead.

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

The Mahomes QB play reminded me of Grossman playing for the Bears (vs Colts). It was like he was playing for the Colts.

And, we thank him for it!

imidazol97

WKRP in Cincinnati
Howard Hesseman has left the building.
81
He was allowed to say "booger" in the new rock format
with the new manager. That set the tone for the program!

explorerx4

This comment made me laugh. I guess an Eagles fan.

"andy Reid losing a championship game. i feel 25 again. and 26. and 27. and 30".

28firefighter

I was going to say. That game was quintessential Andy Reid play calling.

imidazol97

For those interested:

Howard Hesseman in 2014
still looks like Dr. Fever to me.

houdini1

explorerx4 said:

Bengals D kept Mahomes behind the line of scrimmage. No scrambling for big yards or first downs.

The linemen quit chasing him and stayed in their lanes in second half to prevent him from running. Smart.

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

Congrats to the Bengals fans.

Where is @graphicguy? Is he biking back to Cincy or is he on his second bottle of Woodford?

jmonroe

LOL! Yeah….we had a “wing-ding”. Gotta admit, all the people who were at the party thought it was over…..until that stop at the end of the 1st half. We all kind of looked at each other and said….”uh…oh, if we get the stop at the beginning of the 2nd half, we’ll win this game”. I should open up a tarot card reading business.

Woodford? No. Jefferson’s Reserve? Most definitely….along with Montgomery Inn ribs.

FL…nothing against those who reside there, but traveling there when I was still working, in the Spring, Summer and Fall, did not suit me…in the least. Now, if I were able to move to Maui? I could take that year round! But, I’d need @jmonroe1 money to do that!

You said, “No Jefferson’s Reserve?” Note the question mark. Anyone who doesn’t know what they’re drink is having a hellava good time.

As for needing @jmonroe money to move to Maui, let me finish my taxes. I’ll let you know after that.

I hope you get to party one more time for this season.

jmonroe

tjc78

@28firefighter said:
I was going to say. That game was quintessential Andy Reid play calling.

It so was… I kept thinking of all the botched championship games with the Birds

abacomike

Before the KC/Cinci game, I was neutral as to which team I would be rooting for because I am a fan of Mahomes and Burrow. Once the game got started, I changed my position from neutral to Cinci because I felt that Mahomes was too nonchalant in his approach to the game - sort of like “…what, me worry about these underdogs…”! I saw in Joe Burrow’s play a hungry quarterback who wanted to win this game with all his heart.

Just my honest opinion as I watched the opening first quarter and it was reinforced as the game progressed. I am rooting for the Bengals for Super Bowl and for Joe Burrow to lead them to victory. I must admit, though, I am in the minority as regards my friends who will be watching the game with our families.

imidazol97

I thought the videography during the Bengal's game was not as
good as during the Ram's game on a different network. The pictures
and zooming, even during the replays weren't as clear and as
well done on that network.

Am I the only one who thinks that? If so, was it a problem with
camera location due to the stadium design or just poor setup
on the part of the video team?

explorerx4

KC is an outside stadium which limits some of the camera views.

ab348

I didn't notice too much different in terms of camera shots versus the typical CBS vs Fox national game. Fox seems to always have more/different shots. I noticed more of a difference with the announce teams. Jim Nantz did his usual good job for CBS but I thought Tony Romo had maybe the worst game I ever heard him call, going off the deep end near the finish by shouting "The Bengals are going to the Super Bowl!" like an excited teenager, with almost 2 minutes still left to play. Anything could have gone wrong in that time. Meanwhile I like Buck and Aikman on Fox most of the time and they did a nice job yesterday.

imidazol97

I suspect some of the talkers who do the hypothesizing on these
analysis bits had to rewrite their preplanned end-of-game talking
points when the Bengals took possession in the overtime
and had a good chance to score.

The Bengals were the underdog team for many of those guys and ladies
who do the analysis.

I equate the talkers to weathermen doing the forecasts. LOL

henryn

sda said:

I just read another mid-size sedan is no longer. The last VW Passat was produced on 1/25. The production capacity from the Passat will be given to the EV VW I.D.4. Bow our heads in a moment of silence.

I'm with you on that one. I owned a total of 3 Passats, not bad cars, not at all.

driver100

I liked our Passat, except it needed more power. Well built and nice to drive....Euro handling!
Anyone interested in a BMW that can change colors....notice the wheels can flash too? 1 min 15 secs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKyUe14MUDA

tjc78

We were just talking utilities the other day. A buddy asked me if my natural gas bills were much higher this year. So I looked back and this January was $50 higher for nearly the same usage. Come to realize that the per therm charge went up 119% from last year! Crazy.

graphicguy

jmonroe1 said:

graphicguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

Congrats to the Bengals fans.

Where is @graphicguy? Is he biking back to Cincy or is he on his second bottle of Woodford?

jmonroe

LOL! Yeah….we had a “wing-ding”. Gotta admit, all the people who were at the party thought it was over…..until that stop at the end of the 1st half. We all kind of looked at each other and said….”uh…oh, if we get the stop at the beginning of the 2nd half, we’ll win this game”. I should open up a tarot card reading business.

Woodford? No. Jefferson’s Reserve? Most definitely….along with Montgomery Inn ribs.

FL…nothing against those who reside there, but traveling there when I was still working, in the Spring, Summer and Fall, did not suit me…in the least. Now, if I were able to move to Maui? I could take that year round! But, I’d need @jmonroe1 money to do that!

You said, “No Jefferson’s Reserve?” Note the question mark. Anyone who doesn’t know what they’re drink is having a hellava good time.

As for needing @jmonroe money to move to Maui, let me finish my taxes. I’ll let you know after that.

I hope you get to party one more time for this season.

jmonroe

This is why punctuation is important.

What I typed was…

“Woodford? No. Jefferson’s Reserve? Most definitely…..”

J/K! Just messing with you.

Let me know how that tax situation works out. I’ll need a loan for my Maui Beachfront Resort.

Hoping for one more win. This city needs it. The team needs it. Hell, I need it!

graphicguy

imidazol97 said:

I thought the videography during the Bengal's game was not as
good as during the Ram's game on a different network. The pictures
and zooming, even during the replays weren't as clear and as
well done on that network.

Am I the only one who thinks that? If so, was it a problem with
camera location due to the stadium design or just poor setup
on the part of the video team?

We were talking about that while watching. Not sure who the producer was, but his camera people seemed more interested in showing video of the stands and immobile coaches watching the plays/game, than the game action itself.

Not to mention, the half time fiasco setting up the announcers RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SPEAKERS blaring the half time show. Esiason even said on camera, he couldn’t hear one thing anyone was saying. We certainly could barely hear what they were broadcasting.

Someone should have lost their job(s) over that.

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

We were just talking utilities the other day. A buddy asked me if my natural gas bills were much higher this year. So I looked back and this January was $50 higher for nearly the same usage. Come to realize that the per therm charge went up 119% from last year! Crazy.

Not sure if it makes a difference, but we have DUKE ENERGY. They’ve been quite reasonable. But, it seems like every week I’m getting an offer from some unheard of company offering me a “deal” to get cheaper gas and electricity. So, seems competition is pretty fierce.

Insult to injury, DUKE still has to bill at the lower rates of the cheaper alternatives as the meters belong to them. Weird situation.

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

graphicguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

Congrats to the Bengals fans.

Where is @graphicguy? Is he biking back to Cincy or is he on his second bottle of Woodford?

jmonroe

LOL! Yeah….we had a “wing-ding”. Gotta admit, all the people who were at the party thought it was over…..until that stop at the end of the 1st half. We all kind of looked at each other and said….”uh…oh, if we get the stop at the beginning of the 2nd half, we’ll win this game”. I should open up a tarot card reading business.

Woodford? No. Jefferson’s Reserve? Most definitely….along with Montgomery Inn ribs.

FL…nothing against those who reside there, but traveling there when I was still working, in the Spring, Summer and Fall, did not suit me…in the least. Now, if I were able to move to Maui? I could take that year round! But, I’d need @jmonroe1 money to do that!

You said, “No Jefferson’s Reserve?” Note the question mark. Anyone who doesn’t know what they’re drink is having a hellava good time.

As for needing @jmonroe money to move to Maui, let me finish my taxes. I’ll let you know after that.

I hope you get to party one more time for this season.

jmonroe

This is why punctuation is important.

What I typed was…

“Woodford? No. Jefferson’s Reserve? Most definitely…..”

J/K! Just messing with you.

Let me know how that tax situation works out. I’ll need a loan for my Maui Beachfront Resort.

Hoping for one more win. This city needs it. The team needs it. Hell, I need it!

Hell, if all you need is a loan, I can do that now. I thought you wanted a hand out.

Still wishing you good luck in the Super Bowl.

jmonroe

andres3

driver100 said:

Only in Florida....Road rage incident, guy shoots other car right through his own windows: 1 min 18 sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saQ72NZtrS0

I always equate brake checking to attempted murder, so he's just continuing the same actions from earlier and repeating them by shooting wildly.

Not so funny, his actions from brake checking and from shooting wildly can both affect innocent bystanders and victims.

Also, throwing a water bottle is a big NO NO; just as flipping people off is. Both are forms of road rage; and escalating things helps no one (see above about innocent victims).

andres3

explorerx4 said:

The guy with the gun was already aiming it at the car passing on the right before the water bottle hit.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that found his "claim" to be BS given the above fact.

mjfloyd1

Well, it is 55 degrees F and I’m waiting for snowmageddon/ snowpocalypse starting tomorrow night
.Hopefully not too much ice…. Daughter 40 miles away may get a foot of snow. Weird

stickguy

question for all you expert DIYers. Finally got plates for my car (only had to drive on an expired temp tag for a couple of days!) so I went to install them today. Opened up the front bracket kit they gave me (PA dealer, and since they have no front tag they don't automatically install on every car).

I knew I should have made them put it on, but I was ready to go and figured I would just do it myself. Turns out, not a good call. For some reason known only to Ford, instead of screws they included plastic rivets to mount the front plate holder. Per the instructions you drill 1/4" holes then mount it using the rivets. However, they seem to be normal ones that require some sort of tool (not included of course, and not something I have or intend to buy).

anyway, the question is, anybody see any reason to not just use self tapping screws designed for that type of application? I had to install the one on my Sonata and that is all it came with and they held fine. Not sure if the rivets are supposed to be stronger than just drilling into the plastic. But I just want to make sure it doesn't fall off (and there will be 4 screws holding it on.

something like these:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z3VM934/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

don't need 25 but I assume I can pop over to autozone and get a smaller package of the same thing (probably for the same price of course),

so, any opinions? And yes, I know that most of you probably think it is a crime against nature to drill into the front bumper and you would run without the front plate but I prefer not to. Plus I need to go get an inspections sticker, and I am almost positive they won't put that on if the plate it not on the car.

does not seem any riskier to me than drilling a 1/4" hole x4 into the bumper than getting the silly rivets installed (if anything, that is more likely to mess something up). Worst comes to worse, I take the screw out and have the rivet holes started!

explorerx4

I would call the dealer and ask if they can install the bracket for you.

qbrozen

@stickguy , zip tie it to your lower bumper inlet. Fat zip ties, not chintzy thin ones. I've done this on several cars now without issue and without complaint at the inspection line.

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

Well, it is 55 degrees F and I’m waiting for snowmageddon/ snowpocalypse starting tomorrow night

.Hopefully not too much ice…. Daughter 40 miles away may get a foot of snow. Weird

I got in my car in the garage, opened the door, and headed out. About 2 minutes later, the guy on the radio says, "It's 62 degrees!". I had no idea.. I took a friend to the airport, this morning, and it was 28 F.

tjc78

I did the front plate bracket on my Mom’s RAV that was bought in PA. There were actually two dimples from the factory for placement. Drilled the holes and used screws very similar to what you linked.

stickguy

Yeah, there are 2 dimples to locate the bottom holes. Supposed to install them and just drill through the holes to do the top ones. I had the same issues with my sonata, where it was in the trunk but that came with screws and I put it on.

Explorer, I would but don’t feel like driving 45 minutes each way to philly and paying a bridge toll.

Q, I’ll look at it but don’t want to cover up a lot of grill like that. I’m fine with the mount on the bumper. Also not sure how much curve there is on the grill.

jmonroe1

@stickguy said:
question for all you expert DIYers. Finally got plates for my car (only had to drive on an expired temp tag for a couple of days!) so I went to install them today. Opened up the front bracket kit they gave me (PA dealer, and since they have no front tag they don't automatically install on every car).

I knew I should have made them put it on, but I was ready to go and figured I would just do it myself. Turns out, not a good call. For some reason known only to Ford, instead of screws they included plastic rivets to mount the front plate holder. Per the instructions you drill 1/4" holes then mount it using the rivets. However, they seem to be normal ones that require some sort of tool (not included of course, and not something I have or intend to buy).

anyway, the question is, anybody see any reason to not just use self tapping screws designed for that type of application? I had to install the one on my Sonata and that is all it came with and they held fine. Not sure if the rivets are supposed to be stronger than just drilling into the plastic. But I just want to make sure it doesn't fall off (and there will be 4 screws holding it on.

something like these:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z3VM934/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

don't need 25 but I assume I can pop over to autozone and get a smaller package of the same thing (probably for the same price of course),

so, any opinions? And yes, I know that most of you probably think it is a crime against nature to drill into the front bumper and you would run without the front plate but I prefer not to. Plus I need to go get an inspections sticker, and I am almost positive they won't put that on if the plate it not on the car.

does not seem any riskier to me than drilling a 1/4" hole x4 into the bumper than getting the silly rivets installed (if anything, that is more likely to mess something up). Worst comes to worse, I take the screw out and have the rivet holes started!

The 1/4 inch rivets (probably pop rivets) that were provided are pretty damn big for mounting a plate. You could almost attach a toe hook if you used 4 of those. I’d get a few self tapping screws and go that way and I would only use 2 screws unless Jersey plates are HEAVY. Of course @qbrozen’s idea ain’t bad either.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

Well, it is 55 degrees F and I’m waiting for snowmageddon/ snowpocalypse starting tomorrow night

.Hopefully not too much ice…. Daughter 40 miles away may get a foot of snow. Weird

We may have run out of luck here. Predicting 4-8 inches Thursday night. Not much historically but the most we’ve had this winter.

sda

Are they strict in your state about insisting that you have a front plate? If not, do without and beg forgiveness.

stickguy

I don't know how strongly they enforce it, but I really don't feel like getting stopped for it. Plus I have the plate already.

explorerx4

@stickguy,
I didn't realize the dealer was that far away. Never mind.

ab348

Can you get 4 double-sided peel and stick pads? Look for 3M VHB tape.

mjfloyd1

@stickguy said:
I don't know how strongly they enforce it, but I really don't feel like getting stopped for it. Plus I have the plate already.

If you do drill it, watch out for the radiator

kyfdx

I think it's crazy that you have to drill a hole through the bumper cover to mount a plate.