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imidazol97

The City of Springboro, south of Dayton, has modified their electronic welcome sign

roadburner

I was the executor of my Aunt's estate; my cousin, her two sons, my son and I were the only beneficiaries. Not terribly hard although the KY Department of Revenue gave me grief for not listing the accounts that were POD, and therefore not part of her estate- even though they weren't taxable.
Since there were no attorney or executor fees I was rehabilitated in the eyes of that side of the family(I had been in the doghouse for some time prior because I skipped my cousin's wedding in order to attend the UL-UK basketball game).
You have to have priorities.

ab348

henryn said:

All in all, I’ve had a bit of a rough day. This morning the Cardiologist implanted a monitoring device under the skin of my chest. It will call home and rat me out if I suffer any atrial fibrillation. I had a heart ablation procedure a few months back, which fixed the atrial flutter, but they’re afraid I might develop atrial fibrillation now, so they want to monitor for that.

Then this afternoon I wound up getting 4 stitches in my hand, at the base of my left thumb. I paid a couple of handymen types to fix a leak in the roof of my storage shed, and they were arguing about how much of the radiant shield needed to be cut out and replaced. I climbed up on the ladder to check for myself, and when coming down my foot caught and I fell. I have sworn off ladders before, and I should have remembered that. Next time I’ll just call a professional.

Getting old sucks. 10 years ago, I would have fixed that roof myself, and done a better job, in less time. I guess I’m just going to have to get used to paying someone else to do it. I should be grateful that I have the money to pay the professional.

I’m in that same boat on your last point. I was never an avid home DIYer but could manage lots of things. With my string of health problems the last few years I think those days are gone.

I have always been skittish around ladders but with my arthritic knees now they are even more challenging. Not just ladders - yesterday the smoke detector in the hall started it’s “change battery” chirping. It’s mounted on the wall up close to the ceiling and since there was no convenient ladder I used a kitchen chair to get up to it. Even that spooked me a little because my knees protested on the way up. The detector is hard wired but still requires a battery which seems to rather defeat the purpose.

I have become very sceptical about cardiologists after my experience lately. It occurred to me recently that I have been seeing mine for 15 years, did everything he recommended, and am far worse now despite that. I had afib develop while under his care and and he seemed unconcerned for the longest time. Then it proved resistant to everything he tried. Grrr.

jmonroe1

@henryn, good to hear that you got away with just a few stitches. It could have been worse. If I don’t stop climbing ladders I’m going to pay the price for being stubborn. I don’t climb to the top of a 40 footer anymore but I have done almost half of that a couple times this past Summer while working on the flip. Now that I’m thinking about this it’s time to call it quits.

jmonroe

Michaell

@jmonroe1 - I had no idea how old you are. I was born in 1963

@ab348 - you might not even be here if not for your cardiologist

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

@jmonroe1 - I had no idea how old you are. I was born in 1963

@ab348 - you might not even be here if not for your cardiologist

Like I’ve said before, “if I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself”.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

qbrozen said:

@snakeweasel said:

It's really no different than you putting the money in a bank and getting interest on it or investing the money in stock. It's income and therefore taxable.

It is quite different. I gave money to the gov in taxes. They said, “no, no, no, that’s too much. Here is some back along with a little something for your trouble.” And now say, “now WE gave YOU extra, so you gotta give us a little somethin for our trouble.” It is just dumb.

Nope it's the same. The government has your money and when they return it they pay you rent on that money, also called interest, just like any place else. Since it is interest it is taxable just like any other interest outside of state and municipal bonds.

stickguy

random odd sighting today. A Subaru Crosstrek. that was normal. the odd part, it had running boards on it (and no, it was not lifted at all). And not small ones. Giant chrome skids that looked like they came off a fire truck, and stuck out as far as the mirror tips at least. And a few inches thick.

it was behind a giant Ram PU, which had more compact boards.

I can't even imagine what the logic is.

mjfloyd1

Big feet

tjc78

Michaell said:

@jmonroe1 - I had no idea how old you are. I was born in 1963

@ab348 - you might not even be here if not for your cardiologist

J may be up in years, but can wax a grey car like a much younger guy!

qbrozen

@snakeweasel said:
Nope it's the same. The government has your money and when they return it they pay you rent on that money, also called interest, just like any place else. Since it is interest it is taxable just like any other interest outside of state and municipal bonds.

Obviously, the difference is 2 parties vs 3 parties. The bank isn’t asking for some of their own interest back. Gov should either pay less or no interest and save some of the dance. You’ll disagree, and that’s fine. Agree to disagree, as they say.

snakeweasel

@qbrozen said:

@snakeweasel said:
Nope it's the same. The government has your money and when they return it they pay you rent on that money, also called interest, just like any place else. Since it is interest it is taxable just like any other interest outside of state and municipal bonds.

Obviously, the difference is 2 parties vs 3 parties. The bank isn’t asking for some of their own interest back. Gov should either pay less or no interest and save some of the dance. You’ll disagree, and that’s fine. Agree to disagree, as they say.

So by your logic people who work for the government shouldn't pay income taxes.

ab348

Michaell said:

@ab348 - you might not even be here if not for your cardiologist

And if I had a more attentive or thoughtful cardiologist I might not have had to endure the last decade of decline. But who knows.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

laurasdada said:

Here's the kicker, interest was paid during that gap time, which I sent to son as a gross amount.

I don't think I mentioned this here. Want to hear a real zinger? I got a 1099-INT for the interest the Federal Government paid on my parents' delayed tax refund on their estate. Yeah, the GOVERNMENT paid me interest because they took so incredibly long to send a TAX REFUND and now they want me to pay TAX ON THE TAX REFUND INTEREST. WTH?!

My mother had dementia issues. When I took over her stuff in 2006, she hadn't paid taxes since 2002.
After speaking to an IRS agent, they waived all penalties AND interest, due to her condition.

Took me four months to get the tax returns all completed and filed. Didn't get the Social Security straightened out until 2011 (she died in 2010). In the end, they screwed her (me) out of $5K, but that was $20K better than where they started.

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

Problems today with getting skin wash for wife's upcoming
surgery. Headed out to the nearby pharmacy only to
be tailgated by a lady in an old Plymout Chryslter minivan
who felt I shouldn't have turned out of my road in the 300 feet
in front of her at 35 mph speed limit. She rode my bumper.
If I'd been ready for a new car, I'd have brake-checked her in
front of the cameras at the local city facilities.

Had to wait at the pharmacy for 20 minutes. But they had
what Kroger said would take them 3 days to get!!!

Later saw this doing touch and go landings at the local
runway.

Is that AF 1?

I frequently see touch and go practice at airports I work. Usually C130s and rarely a big tanker version of the L-1011.

My favorite though is when the F-35s take off or land in groups out of Burlington.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

laurasdada said:

Here's the kicker, interest was paid during that gap time, which I sent to son as a gross amount.

I don't think I mentioned this here. Want to hear a real zinger? I got a 1099-INT for the interest the Federal Government paid on my parents' delayed tax refund on their estate. Yeah, the GOVERNMENT paid me interest because they took so incredibly long to send a TAX REFUND and now they want me to pay TAX ON THE TAX REFUND INTEREST. WTH?!

I think my son got one of those for delayed stimulus checks.

explorerx4

Grandchild #2 expected shortly. Don't know if boy or girl yet or the name. Some nice drama.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

I went to a friend's graduation from the Naval Academy back in the Regan days.
The Commencement speaker was George H. W. Bush.
2 AFO type planes flew over the ceremony.

I think my favorite aircraft sighting was in the early 2000s when I was at my farmer’s market and I looked up to see a B2 bomber making a low pass over RPI. Evidently someone speaking at their commencement had enough juice to divert it from an air show in Washington. It did a run up the east coast, buzzed the commencement and the flew back to DC.

kyfdx

@imidazol97

Was that at DAY or Wright-Patt?

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

@henryn, good to hear that you got away with just a few stitches. It could have been worse. If I don’t stop climbing ladders I’m going to pay the price for being stubborn. I don’t climb to the top of a 40 footer anymore but I have done almost half of that a couple times this past Summer while working on the flip. Now that I’m thinking about this it’s time to call it quits.

jmonroe

I panicked my son last summer by climbing up to the second story roof to trim overhanging branches. He stood worrying while I worked. I asked him if I fell would he try to catch me and how did he think that would work out.

graphicguy

kyfdx said:

@imidazol97

Was that at DAY or Wright-Patt?

I would have to think that has to be WPAFB. I don’t think they’d let U.S. Gov’t planes use a commercial airport like DAY for training.

imidazol97

kyfdx said:

@imidazol97

Was that at DAY or Wright-Patt?

WPAFB

Occasionally when I drive by the perimeter highway there's an E4 sitting
far away next to the hangar.

Occasionally we'll see the C-17 or other AF planes using the
long runway at DAY for touch-and-go practice.
There are periods of the day when traffic at DAY is very
light or nonexistent. Long times between flights since many of the
flights are feeders to and from major hubs. Most is early morning
or later afternoon and evening.

henryn

ab348 said:

I have become very sceptical about cardiologists after my experience lately. It occurred to me recently that I have been seeing mine for 15 years, did everything he recommended, and am far worse now despite that. I had afib develop while under his care and and he seemed unconcerned for the longest time. Then it proved resistant to everything he tried. Grrr.

If you don't like him, replace him. When I was first diagnosed with heart problems about 6 years ago, I went through 2 cardiologists in a short while. I finally asked an acquaintance who teaches nursing here in the Houston Medical Center for a recommendation, and I have been very pleased with the one she recommended.

henryn

stickguy said:

random odd sighting today. A Subaru Crosstrek. that was normal. the odd part, it had running boards on it (and no, it was not lifted at all). And not small ones. Giant chrome skids that looked like they came off a fire truck, and stuck out as far as the mirror tips at least. And a few inches thick.

it was behind a giant Ram PU, which had more compact boards.

I can't even imagine what the logic is.

I have noticed running boards on a number of small SUVs around here, Honda CR-Vs and the like. I assume it's just an appearance thing.

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

@qbrozen said:

@snakeweasel said:

Nope it's the same. The government has your money and when they return it they pay you rent on that money, also called interest, just like any place else. Since it is interest it is taxable just like any other interest outside of state and municipal bonds.

Obviously, the difference is 2 parties vs 3 parties. The bank isn’t asking for some of their own interest back. Gov should either pay less or no interest and save some of the dance. You’ll disagree, and that’s fine. Agree to disagree, as they say.

So by your logic people who work for the government shouldn't pay income taxes.

That sure would save me from a LOT of cheating.

jmonroe

abacomike

@ab348 said:
I’m in that same boat on your last point. I was never an avid home DIYer but could manage lots of things. With my string of health problems the last few years I think those days are gone.

I have always been skittish around ladders but with my arthritic knees now they are even more challenging. Not just ladders - yesterday the smoke detector in the hall started it’s “change battery” chirping. It’s mounted on the wall up close to the ceiling and since there was no convenient ladder I used a kitchen chair to get up to it. Even that spooked me a little because my knees protested on the way up. The detector is hard wired but still requires a battery which seems to rather defeat the purpose.

I have become very sceptical about cardiologists after my experience lately. It occurred to me recently that I have been seeing mine for 15 years, did everything he recommended, and am far worse now despite that. I had afib develop while under his care and and he seemed unconcerned for the longest time. Then it proved resistant to everything he tried. Grrr.

Feel better, my friend! I pray you will get through this setback and come out the other side even stronger! 🤓

abacomike

@henryn said:
If you don't like him, replace him. When I was first diagnosed with heart problems about 6 years ago, I went through 2 cardiologists in a short while. I finally asked an acquaintance who teaches nursing here in the Houston Medical Center for a recommendation, and I have been very pleased with the one she recommended.

I too have had heart problems - stent placed in my right coronary artery about 5 years ago after a heart attack. Luckily they got me right up to the cath lab.

Back in June of last year, my cardiologist (he’s an interventionist cardiologist) performed an angiogram to determine if I have any blockages over 49% - thank the Lord they were all below that level and the stent is performing as designed.

My blockage was caused by diabetes, not cholesterol. The contents of the blockage was gravelly which is common in diabetics - been a diabetic since I was 26 years old.

graphicguy

ronsteve said:

@graphicguy said:

Speaking of wax/shine products, it’s been a very long time since I’ve heard or seen any dealerships pushing “mop and glo” services. Wonder how those vehicles who have those products are holding up? IIRC, some of them promised a life time of shine. Wonder how they look 10 years later?

Come on down to Louisville… one dealer group applies something called Permaplate to everything they sell, for a cool $599. And I forget the name of the stuff that the dealer really wanted to put on my RDX for 895, but that group tries really hard to sell it.

Hmmmmm…I could start a mobile wax LLC.

Truth is, I bought into one of those ceramic products the YouTubers all like. I’ll assume they were paid for their endorsements. Frankly, it was no better or worse than any other wax/synthetic I’ve ever used. Plus, it cost $60 for a bottle that maybe provided 2 coatings (at least, that’s all I was able to eek out).

Thinking this through, if I had a couple of buckets, some wash/wax chemicals, a power buffer, some microfiber towels, all in say $200 worth of supplies, I could probably do a complete wash/wax/detail in 120 minutes. Charge $500 per vehicle knock out 4-5 vehicles/day. That would undercut the $1,000/vehicle detailer.

Profit about $2K/day. Maybe add to the volume of vehicles by hiring a $15/hour grunt/gopher to help.

Not a bad little business.

sda

@ab348 Within nationalized medical coverage, do you have the ability to choose a doctor or are you just assigned one?

kyfdx

@imidazol97
The coolest thing about being close to Wright-Patt is seeing big planes do maneuvers that they don't do anywhere else. C-130 cargo planes making 90 degree banks, with the wings almost vertical.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

I went to a friend's graduation from the Naval Academy back in the Regan days.
The Commencement speaker was George H. W. Bush.
2 AFO type planes flew over the ceremony.

I think my favorite aircraft sighting was in the early 2000s when I was at my farmer’s market and I looked up to see a B2 bomber making a low pass over RPI. Evidently someone speaking at their commencement had enough juice to divert it from an air show in Washington. It did a run up the east coast, buzzed the commencement and the flew back to DC.

That’s a boomerang.

jmonroe

ronsteve

jmonroe1 said:

@imidazol97 said:

Later saw this doing touch and go landings at the local

runway.

I think I may have mention this before but since you brought it up, well:

When I was in the Navy (got out in 1963) I was stationed at Patuxent River Naval Air Test Center (known as Pax) which is around 60 miles south of DC in Maryland. Because of the crowded air space in DC, even before Dulles was built, when President Kennedy’s 707 came out of various maintenance checks his plane often used Pax for touch and goes. At the time, Pax had a runway that was even longer than Andrews AFB in DC which is where Air Force One resides.

I’m not positive about this but I seem to remember the main runway at Pax was just under 12K feet. It was not a rarity to see Air Force One using our base for touch and goes and one time I was on a flight coming back to Pax after being gone for a few days and we had to wait to land because Air Force One was doing touch and goes. We had to circle for about a half hour until Air Force One finished their prescribed number of touch and goes. Then we were allowed to land. Believe me, when that plane wants air space it gets it even without the President being aboard. Everyone else just gets in line and waits their turn…PERIOD, NO DISCUSSION.

I lived in Wilmington NC for almost 11 years, and that was a favorite spot for that unit to do touch-and-go with the 757s. The longer of the two runways was only 8000 feet, so not favorable for the 747s.

Being a civilian field, those birds shared the pattern with whatever traffic there was. Not that there was much. Also the 757 doesn't generate the wake turbulence of the 747, and therefore needs less spacing. (Until they do their Driving Miss Daisy landings... the UPS 757s are a pet peeve of the controllers at SDF!)

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

ronsteve said:

@graphicguy said:

Speaking of wax/shine products, it’s been a very long time since I’ve heard or seen any dealerships pushing “mop and glo” services. Wonder how those vehicles who have those products are holding up? IIRC, some of them promised a life time of shine. Wonder how they look 10 years later?

Come on down to Louisville… one dealer group applies something called Permaplate to everything they sell, for a cool $599. And I forget the name of the stuff that the dealer really wanted to put on my RDX for 895, but that group tries really hard to sell it.

Hmmmmm…I could start a mobile wax LLC.

Truth is, I bought into one of those ceramic products the YouTubers all like. I’ll assume they were paid for their endorsements. Frankly, it was no better or worse than any other wax/synthetic I’ve ever used. Plus, it cost $60 for a bottle that maybe provided 2 coatings (at least, that’s all I was able to eek out).

Thinking this through, if I had a couple of buckets, some wash/wax chemicals, a power buffer, some microfiber towels, all in say $200 worth of supplies, I could probably do a complete wash/wax/detail in 120 minutes. Charge $500 per vehicle knock out 4-5 vehicles/day. That would undercut the $1,000/vehicle detailer.

Profit about $2K/day. Maybe add to the volume of vehicles by hiring a $15/hour grunt/gopher to help.

Not a bad little business.


Thanks for the idea. I have 2 buffers, a few pounds of micro fiber rags and a pretty good wax so I can start right away. You just better not try to horn into my area. :@

jmonroe

explorerx4

It's a healthy boy! 9lbs 12+oz.
First one was 4lbs 4oz but healthy, too.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

I went to a friend's graduation from the Naval Academy back in the Regan days.
The Commencement speaker was George H. W. Bush.
2 AFO type planes flew over the ceremony.

I think my favorite aircraft sighting was in the early 2000s when I was at my farmer’s market and I looked up to see a B2 bomber making a low pass over RPI. Evidently someone speaking at their commencement had enough juice to divert it from an air show in Washington. It did a run up the east coast, buzzed the commencement and the flew back to DC.

That’s a boomerang.

jmonroe

Of the Batplane maybe?

henryn

jmonroe1 said:

graphicguy said:

ronsteve said:

@graphicguy said:

Speaking of wax/shine products, it’s been a very long time since I’ve heard or seen any dealerships pushing “mop and glo” services. Wonder how those vehicles who have those products are holding up? IIRC, some of them promised a life time of shine. Wonder how they look 10 years later?

Come on down to Louisville… one dealer group applies something called Permaplate to everything they sell, for a cool $599. And I forget the name of the stuff that the dealer really wanted to put on my RDX for 895, but that group tries really hard to sell it.

Hmmmmm…I could start a mobile wax LLC.

Truth is, I bought into one of those ceramic products the YouTubers all like. I’ll assume they were paid for their endorsements. Frankly, it was no better or worse than any other wax/synthetic I’ve ever used. Plus, it cost $60 for a bottle that maybe provided 2 coatings (at least, that’s all I was able to eek out).

Thinking this through, if I had a couple of buckets, some wash/wax chemicals, a power buffer, some microfiber towels, all in say $200 worth of supplies, I could probably do a complete wash/wax/detail in 120 minutes. Charge $500 per vehicle knock out 4-5 vehicles/day. That would undercut the $1,000/vehicle detailer.

Profit about $2K/day. Maybe add to the volume of vehicles by hiring a $15/hour grunt/gopher to help.

Not a bad little business.

Thanks for the idea. I have 2 buffers, a few pounds of micro fiber rags and a pretty good wax so I can start right away. You just better not try to horn into my area. :@

jmonroe

Fairly hard physical work. Not something I would have wanted to do for a living, even when I was younger.

roadburner

I've told this before, but one of my dad's friends was a B-25 Mitchell pilot during WWII. He was flying a practice mission along the blacked-out East Coast when #1 engine started to overheat. The closest airfield was located at a Navy base. He requested clearance to land and was told that the runway lights would be illuminated once he was in sight. The lights came on and Dad's friend said that it was the shortest runway he had ever seen. He dropped onto the tarmac as soon as he crossed the fence, reversed the props, and leaned on the brakes- but there was no way he was going to stop. Just as he reached the end of the runway more lights came on- indicating that the runway was actually much longer. The Navy guys in the tower had-intentionally-activated the carrier training pattern in order to mess with the Army Air Force. The controllers had to barricade the door to keep the pilot from breaking in and killing them...

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

I've told this before, but one of my dad's friends was a B-25 Mitchell pilot during WWII. He was flying a practice mission along the blacked-out East Coast when #1 engine started to overheat. The closest airfield was located at a Navy base. He requested clearance to land and was told that the runway lights would be illuminated once he was in sight. The lights came on and Dad's friend said that it was the shortest runway he had ever seen. He dropped onto the tarmac as soon as he crossed the fence, reversed the props, and leaned on the brakes- but there was no way he was going to stop. Just as he reached the end of the runway more lights came on- indicating that the runway was actually much longer. The Navy guys in the tower had-intentionally-activated the carrier training pattern in order to mess with the Army Air Force. The controllers had to barricade the door to keep the pilot from breaking in and killing them...

When I was in the Navy stationed at Pax, since that base was a training center I got to see a few times aircraft pilots being shot off the runway via catapults and landing grabbing the cable. As amazing as it is to see planes being shot off the ground via catapults it’s even more amazing to hear planes screaming as they are about to grab the wire. They have to come in at takeoff speed so if they miss the wire they have enough air speed to take off rather than going into the drink. And that is why Navy aircraft pilots are the best you can get. I’m not saying that Air Force pilots couldn’t land on a carrier but it takes a lot of practice to get it right and their early practice is not done from a carrier deck. If that were the case our taxes would be even higher. Plains ain’t cheap and lost lives are even worse. Practice, practice, practice.

jmonroe

ab348

sda said:

@ab348 Within nationalized medical coverage, do you have the ability to choose a doctor or are you just assigned one?

Not easy to change docs because if you tell one you don't want to see them any longer word gets around in the local medical clan and others treat you differently, or so I hear. Plus most are so overbooked you can wait forever for the first consult.

My guy is competent but is also the head of the department and thus pulled in a bunch of different directions, so I feel like I get short shrift a lot of the time. My family doctor badgered him to see me for over a year with no result once the arrhythmia started.

snakeweasel

@oldfarmer50 said:
I think my son got one of those for delayed stimulus checks.

They have been sending them out to people who got the third stimulus payment. This is because if you didn't get it or it was the wrong amount you can get it corrected on your tax return.

snakeweasel

@oldfarmer50 said:
I think my favorite aircraft sighting was in the early 2000s when I was at my farmer’s market and I looked up to see a B2 bomber making a low pass over RPI. Evidently someone speaking at their commencement had enough juice to divert it from an air show in Washington. It did a run up the east coast, buzzed the commencement and the flew back to DC.

Our local small airport has a yearly airshow and had one do a fly over. That darn thing flew over my house.

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

I think my favorite aircraft sighting was in the early 2000s when I was at my farmer’s market and I looked up to see a B2 bomber making a low pass over RPI. Evidently someone speaking at their commencement had enough juice to divert it from an air show in Washington. It did a run up the east coast, buzzed the commencement and the flew back to DC.

Our local small airport has a yearly airshow and had one do a fly over. That darn thing flew over my house.

The IRS called for that just to keep you on your toes.

jmonroe

henryn

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, during the four day “no fly” period, I had a close encounter with an airplane. At that time, I was living out in the country, about 40 miles west of Houston. I was outside working in the yard when a small private jet passed overhead. And when I say “overhead”, I do mean literally just over my head. That thing must have been at some extremely low altitude, it shook the ground when it passed over. And immediately behind it, close on it’s tail, was what looked to my untrained eyes to be a military fighter jet.

I often wondered if that private jet was shot down, but I never saw anything in the news about it, one way or another.

imidazol97

kyfdx said:

@imidazol97
The coolest thing about being close to Wright-Patt is seeing big planes do maneuvers that they don't do anywhere else. C-130 cargo planes making 90 degree banks, with the wings almost vertical.

WPAFB used to have B52's in the 1980. C141's later on before C-17's (I hope I've got the right number
on the current cargo planes).

I've seen the E4 version of the 747 doing touch and go at the DAY airport, along with C141 and C-17 planes. I recall a few times a Presidential plane came in and out for various campaign stops.

I've seen the Concord coming in for a landing. A group of real estate folks went to Europe and chartered a Concord for the return trip. It did a flyby of the airport low and then turned to do the landing.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

@imidazol97
The coolest thing about being close to Wright-Patt is seeing big planes do maneuvers that they don't do anywhere else. C-130 cargo planes making 90 degree banks, with the wings almost vertical.

WPAFB used to have B52's in the 1980. C141's later on before C-17's (I hope I've got the right number
on the current cargo planes).

I've seen the E4 version of the 747 doing touch and go at the DAY airport, along with C141 and C-17 planes. I recall a few times a Presidential plane came in and out for various campaign stops.

I've seen the Concord coming in for a landing. A group of real estate folks went to Europe and chartered a Concord for the return trip. It did a flyby of the airport low and then turned to do the landing.

Here is an interesting story about a flyby of a airport tower.

https://youtu.be/xTJYNq4GQAE

roadburner

I think this was one of the greatest buzz jobs ever- and in a B-36 Peacemaker no less...

british_rover

That peacemaker must have been incredibly loud assuming they were turning and burning.

roadburner

british_rover said:

That peacemaker must have been incredibly loud assuming they were turning and burning.

The B-36 was before my time, but I have heard that when a squadron flew over the ground would actually vibrate. Convair built the YB-60, an all-jet powered swept-wing version of the B-36, but the Boeing B-52 won out.

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

british_rover said:

That peacemaker must have been incredibly loud assuming they were turning and burning.

The B-36 was before my time, but I have heard that when a squadron flew over the ground would actually vibrate. Convair built the YB-60, an all-jet powered swept-wing version of the B-36, but the Boeing B-52 won out.

Convair, now that’s a name out of my past. The Navy squadron I was in had 6 planes built by Convair. The Navy designation for the ones we had was R4Y. It was a smallish 2 engine prop job. That’s the plane I cut my teeth on as a crew member. Then I was assigned as a crew member on the much larger C-130 before I was discharged.

FWIW, our transport squadron also had a few R6D’s known as the DC-6 to the civilian world.

Thanks for bringing up the name Convair.

jmonroe

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Convair also built the B-58 back in the '50s and I was around to appreciate it and add it to my model collection. The first mach2 bomber, maybe the last, come to that. I guess the F-4 might qualify.