It's all an illusion anyway. The total carbon footprint of a gas-sipping "regular" ICE or diesel, vs. a full electric vs. a hybrid (total footprint incorporating the energy to build it and/or mine and manufacturer batteries, and the energy to provide electricity through coal or natural gas, and the cost to scrap these vehicles) ...well, from all that I've read, the carbon footprint is more or less the same. There is a small advantage in total carbon tonnage for the EV, over the life of the vehicle, but it isn't very significant--worth about $35 in carbon offsets at todays rates (which are historically rather low).
fuel: gas title status: clean transmission: automatic
Very clean and well cared for, one owner Outback. This is a superb vehicle loaded with just about every option possible. Adult driven by a very meticulous individual. Here are the stats:
Keyless entry, remote start, power moonroof, power front seats, 440-watt nine-speaker Harmon/Kardon premium audio system, auto-dimming rearview mirror, XM/Serius Satellite radio, Bluetooth hands-free phone and streaming audio connectivity, AM/FM stereo with one-CD player, back up camera, auxiliary audio USB/iPod port, leather interior, Subaru all weather floor mats, rubber cargo area mat, exterior "puddle lights", heated seats, heated side view mirrors, all scheduled maintenance done at Valley Subaru. 96,000 miles.
There's no need to label people "idiots" who care about the environment.
No, I am calling people idiots for screwing up traffic. You know those that start off real slow and stay slow making on lane of traffic go much slower than the next one, where those in the faster lane merge into the other lane once they pass the slow car and fill up the area in front of them making the slower car even slower. Then the cars stuck behind the slow poke try to merge to the faster lane as traffic is going by faster increasing the risk of an accident.
Now caring about the environment is one thing but causing a dozen or so vehicles to sit through one or more extra stop lights idling is going to more than undo all the good hypermiling in your Prius does.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
There's no need to label people "idiots" who care about the environment.
I think he was saying....they were idiots for hypermiling, I assume following transport trucks closely to save a bit of fuel.....and that is the part that is idiotic........whether it is a battery power car or a gasser.
No I mean the people who when there is a large backup approaching a stop light where they won't make the light when it turns green will go slowly so they can stay in battery power. They do this even though the cars in front of them move much faster leaving a large gap between the hypermiler and the car in front of them. Now in theory this works out because the hypermiler would eventually catch up to the car in front of them while they are waiting for the light to turn green again. In reality the cars in the next lane seeing the huge gap in front of the hypermiler merge into that gap after passing the hypermiler. This means that when the hypermiler stops again there are an extra two, three or more cars in front of them slowing the whole lane down.
So on a two lane road you get one lane going much slower than the other lane.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I have yet to experience that treat, but my hope springs eternal. Maybe it's just me fooling myself by "selective validation"---that is, I think Prius drivers are slugs, so I only notice the slow ones, not the speedy ones?
In any event, I have this gut level reaction, perhaps irrational, to immediately get ahead of any Prius in front of me before I'm trapped on a two lane, double yellow line road. I used to have this same reaction behind VW buses.
On freeways, not so much, because if you park in the left lane, peer pressure will annihilate you in short order in California.
Not having a commute, I never see that stuff. When I usually notice a Prius, it's blowing by me on the Interstate at 85 mph.
Yea, the "commute" downstairs doens't have many Prius drivers on it.
Most of my driving during the week is just around town here, so getting stuck behind a hypermiler is not too common. It happens, but a lot of them do seem to zip around like the rest of us.
There's no need to label people "idiots" who care about the environment.
The amount of domino effect one person going too slow causes outweights any gas savings by at least a hundred-fold in wasted fuel, emissions, brake pads, and stress; not to mention wasted time (time is money).
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Not having a commute, I never see that stuff. When I usually notice a Prius, it's blowing by me on the Interstate at 85 mph.
95% of the Priusssesses I see on the road are speeding like mad. I admire anyone who has a commitment to the environment big enough to spend an extra $5000. What I don't admire is someone who wants to punish others who don't share their commitment.
gas update: avon ohio (west of cleveland) Costc0 RUG 123; PUG 153; temp 25 F when i test drove - 2014 audi a4 with 19 inch summer tires with temp ~40 f; light rain; traction not great and sales guy says lets get back to store before snow winter tires a must here: 17 inch so more sidewall so more forgiving tom
gas update: avon ohio (west of cleveland)
Costc0 RUG 123; PUG 153; temp 25 F
when i test drove - 2014 audi a4 with 19 inch summer tires with temp ~40 f; light rain; traction not great and sales guy says lets get back to store before snow
winter tires a must here: 17 inch so more sidewall so more forgiving
tom
At least "All-Season" tires - but there is no doubt that high performance summer tires have limitations in colder environs.
Today, we were in the mid 70's and my tire pressures were at 36 psi on the Turnpike. Pressures were at 32 psi early this morning. Car handled much better in the warmer temperatures.
Heh... mid 70's... it's cold enough here that it takes 2-3 miles before the frozen flat spots on the tires stop thumping
I had that "flat-spot-thumping" yesterday morning when we were at 39 degrees down here. The thumping dissipated after a few blocks of driving but these summer tires sure are the wrong tires for temps below 45 degrees.
I got everything but on form from Vanguard. That was really late last year. Holds me up because I have to do the FASFA too with a kid in college.
In the past I was able to "reverse engineer" the one form for the stock funds. I think I took the prior year and looked at the annual statement and figured out where the tax #s came from, then calculated my own for the current year. Came out right too! I was just hoping they would have what I need available by now.
Then it's not a true hypermiler. They're the ones who coast ever....so....slowly....up to a red light so that they don't have to come to a stop.
Then there is the guy who floors it away from a light, cuts in front of the guy beside him, and then jams on his brakes and skids to a stop at the next light. Close call, but all in all, I prefer the hypermiler.
Heh... mid 70's... it's cold enough here that it takes 2-3 miles before the frozen flat spots on the tires stop thumping
Back about 5 years ago, I checked out a used F150. It had been left in a storage lot for about 6 years, and this older gentleman bought it at auction and resurrected it to sell on Craigslist. Kind of a hobby for him, to generate a little extra income. Nice guy really, and seemed to do decent work. But the point of my story, this F150 had a really nice set of Michelin tires. They must have been brand new, or nearly brand new when the truck was abandoned.
At any rate, the tires had seriously "flat spotted" after 6 years or so. Which made the truck rather terrible to test drive. The guy who was resurrecting it had hopes that the flat spots were going to "work themselves out", but I really had my doubts. Replacing those Michelins would have run nearly $1,000, and that made the difference on whether or not I would buy the truck (I didn't).
Then it's not a true hypermiler. They're the ones who coast ever....so....slowly....up to a red light so that they don't have to come to a stop.
Then there is the guy who floors it away from a light, cuts in front of the guy beside him, and then jams on his brakes and skids to a stop at the next light. Close call, but all in all, I prefer the hypermiler.
+1 to that. In downtown Houston, where I work, they have crazy parking rules. One block will have street parking, the next block doesn't. Inevitably when you come to a block with no parking, there will be some jerk who will whip over in that lane, floor it to pass 5 or 6 cars, and then try to force his way back into the regular traffic stream.
I really think it should be legal to shoot at them. After all, this is Texas, and everybody has a gun anyway, so might as well get some use out of them, right?
Was in Sunnyvale, CA for work. Always enjoy going to Bay Area. Not exactly sure what I did to my travel bookers, but they had a Mustang waiting for me at the Avis lot. Sweet....beats a Cruise, Corolla, some sort of Kia, etc.....
Obviously not a GT, but a pretty spry 6 cyl. Ford has done a yeoman's job of refining the Mustang since I last owned one ('05 GT). Inside's are better. Nice lighting. High resolution screen in the middle. Handled nicely. A little firmer ride than I remember, but that could be a "mis-rememberance". Or, it could be my derriere has become used to the TLs, CTSs, 335i that have graced the GG estate in recent years.
Only real downfalls....I love hearing the motors at work. This 6 banger does not sound good. It has a tractor sound to it. It's quick, just not very sonorous. 2nd, I know sacrifices are made for the sake of style, but I kept banging my head getting into the car.
Still, a good representation of the American sports car.
Didn't attempt to drive into San Francisco. I did take Uber from Santa Clara to Fisherman's Wharf....flat $40 one way. Beats fighting traffic and paying outrageous parking fees. Left Cincinnati, with snow on the ground. Got to Santa Clara, 75º.
CTS is turning into the kind of car I truly enjoy driving. I didn't realize how much it does well until I drive something else.
Left Cincinnati, with snow on the ground. Got to Santa Clara, 75º.blockquote> Enough! Enough! It was 3 deg F last night. We're in a cold flash. Of course, knowing the cold is reaching into Florida gives me a sense of poetic justice, although I don't wish the severe cold on anyone. But sharing?...
CTS is turning into the kind of car I truly enjoy driving. I didn't realize how much it does well until I drive something else.
Good to hear. This is what I'm finding with my Malibu. Despite the haters who try to resurrect negatives, my Malibu has a longer rear legroom than its equivalent year Sonata/Optima. But the one independent video review (out of two that were favorable and somewhat unbiased from the start) said it does everything well in handling various road surfaces and problems, if not excellent in any one type of driving. It's a pleasure to drive with its handling heritage in the chassis that was modified for it. Buick it's not. I also understand why when I test drove a Regal when they were first imported from Germany I found the ride too brisk and taut, even though they're distant relatives.
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Very clean and well cared for, one owner Outback. This is a superb vehicle loaded with just about every option possible. Adult driven by a very meticulous individual. Here are the stats:
Drivetrain: 3.6-liter H4; 4WD, continuously variable transmission
Output: 173 hp @ 5,600 rpm, 174 lb-ft @ 4,100 rpm
Curb Weight: 3,538 lb
Fuel Economy (EPA City/Highway/Combined): 24/30/26 mpg
Keyless entry, remote start, power moonroof, power front seats, 440-watt nine-speaker Harmon/Kardon premium audio system, auto-dimming rearview mirror, XM/Serius Satellite radio, Bluetooth hands-free phone and streaming audio connectivity, AM/FM stereo with one-CD player, back up camera, auxiliary audio USB/iPod port, leather interior, Subaru all weather floor mats, rubber cargo area mat, exterior "puddle lights", heated seats, heated side view mirrors, all scheduled maintenance done at Valley Subaru. 96,000 miles.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Now caring about the environment is one thing but causing a dozen or so vehicles to sit through one or more extra stop lights idling is going to more than undo all the good hypermiling in your Prius does.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
So on a two lane road you get one lane going much slower than the other lane.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
In any event, I have this gut level reaction, perhaps irrational, to immediately get ahead of any Prius in front of me before I'm trapped on a two lane, double yellow line road. I used to have this same reaction behind VW buses.
On freeways, not so much, because if you park in the left lane, peer pressure will annihilate you in short order in California.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
Most of my driving during the week is just around town here, so getting stuck behind a hypermiler is not too common. It happens, but a lot of them do seem to zip around like the rest of us.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Costc0 RUG 123; PUG 153; temp 25 F
when i test drove - 2014 audi a4 with 19 inch summer tires with temp ~40 f; light rain; traction not great and sales guy says lets get back to store before snow
winter tires a must here: 17 inch so more sidewall so more forgiving
tom
Today, we were in the mid 70's and my tire pressures were at 36 psi on the Turnpike. Pressures were at 32 psi early this morning. Car handled much better in the warmer temperatures.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
I miss having a road bike.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
In the past I was able to "reverse engineer" the one form for the stock funds. I think I took the prior year and looked at the annual statement and figured out where the tax #s came from, then calculated my own for the current year. Came out right too! I was just hoping they would have what I need available by now.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Scored a tank of gas tonight for $1.37 a gallon.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
MS 1099's are being mailed on the 15th. I think you can get them online now
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
At any rate, the tires had seriously "flat spotted" after 6 years or so. Which made the truck rather terrible to test drive. The guy who was resurrecting it had hopes that the flat spots were going to "work themselves out", but I really had my doubts. Replacing those Michelins would have run nearly $1,000, and that made the difference on whether or not I would buy the truck (I didn't).
+1 to that. In downtown Houston, where I work, they have crazy parking rules. One block will have street parking, the next block doesn't. Inevitably when you come to a block with no parking, there will be some jerk who will whip over in that lane, floor it to pass 5 or 6 cars, and then try to force his way back into the regular traffic stream.
I really think it should be legal to shoot at them. After all, this is Texas, and everybody has a gun anyway, so might as well get some use out of them, right?
Was in Sunnyvale, CA for work. Always enjoy going to Bay Area. Not exactly sure what I did to my travel bookers, but they had a Mustang waiting for me at the Avis lot. Sweet....beats a Cruise, Corolla, some sort of Kia, etc.....
Obviously not a GT, but a pretty spry 6 cyl. Ford has done a yeoman's job of refining the Mustang since I last owned one ('05 GT). Inside's are better. Nice lighting. High resolution screen in the middle. Handled nicely. A little firmer ride than I remember, but that could be a "mis-rememberance". Or, it could be my derriere has become used to the TLs, CTSs, 335i that have graced the GG estate in recent years.
Only real downfalls....I love hearing the motors at work. This 6 banger does not sound good. It has a tractor sound to it. It's quick, just not very sonorous. 2nd, I know sacrifices are made for the sake of style, but I kept banging my head getting into the car.
Still, a good representation of the American sports car.
Didn't attempt to drive into San Francisco. I did take Uber from Santa Clara to Fisherman's Wharf....flat $40 one way. Beats fighting traffic and paying outrageous parking fees. Left Cincinnati, with snow on the ground. Got to Santa Clara, 75º.
CTS is turning into the kind of car I truly enjoy driving. I didn't realize how much it does well until I drive something else.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
If you go paperless can't you get all your tax statements pretty early? All of mine were available by the end of January.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
I am still waiting for my on line reports from Scottrade.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D