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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Yes, Lincoln had a bustleback and so did Chrysler...I am not sure why!

    This was interesting from curbsideclassic.com

    There were innumerable milestones in GM’s terminal decline , but the Cadillac Seville makes for a very convenient set of markers. In its four incarnations as GM’s most expensive car, the Seville almost perfectly marks the trajectory of its parent company; from the haughty over-reach and cynical pricing of the first one in 1975, when GM’s market share was still around 45%, to the misguided attempts to create a world-class sports sedan of the last. But it was the second generation that really marked the turning point: the 1980′s were GM’s worst decade ever in terms of market share loss; and the Seville (along with that other DS, the Citation) kicked off that decade from hell in grand style: a near-perfect synthesis of wretched design and ruinous engineering. The halo car was now the devil’s pitchfork car.

    1980-cadillac-seville-gms-deadly-sin-no-17-from-halo-to-pitchfork/

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @driver100 said:

    "Yes, Lincoln had a bustleback and so did Chrysler...I am not sure why!"

    To compete with, what that thought to be, a "killer" style for the future. I must admit that I hated its looks and the ride was horrendous. My assistant superintendent drove a silver Seville and I had many opportunities to sit inside the car. It was rough running and was not a particularly comfortable.

    It never was popular - but pricing limited it's popularity IIRC.

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited August 2014

    @bwia said: Sounds like a similar feud going on between two billionaire cousins at Market Basket. Don't know much about the company but the CEO was fired and in solidarity the employees and customers went on strike and will not return until their beloved CEO is rehired or is allowed to buy out the other family members.

    @robr2 said:

    >

    Two cousins, Arthur T and Arthur S Demoulas, each head a side of the family.

    T has been the CEO for a number of years and is beloved by the vast majority of the employees. Pay is good (cashiers can make $40K/year), health insurance is 100% paid, pension plan (yep a pension plan) is fully company funded, everyone (even part time clerks) get quarterly bonuses and the executives under T all started as baggers or stockers. Some employees have been there 50 years and many retire with 7 figure pensions.

    In 2013, the angered widow switched loyalties to S to give him control of a majority. With that majority, he could get the board to distribute a special dividend to the family. T was opposed because retained earnings is what he uses to grow the company. Shortly thereafter, the board of directors approved a $350 million dollar dividend to be divided among 9 the 9 shareholders on top of the $100 million in dividends it usually pays annually. In retaliation, T instituted an extra 4% discount at the chain for all of 2014 which pissed off S.

    In June of 2014, the board fired T and two other executives. When that happened, the 25,000 Market Basket employees started to walk off the job and picket - first at headquarters and the distribution centers and then at the stores. The stores were still open and selling whatever they had but most employees spent their time putting up protest signs in the store, asking for signatures on petitions and picketing out front - some while on the clock.

    Sorry for the long story. I love business dramas.

    What a saga. I didn't realize you were following the story so closely. Thanks for that. As Mike mentioned it would make for a good movie script but meanwhile it will be the subject for an interesting case study in business schools.

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    edited August 2014

    @bwia said:
    What a saga. I didn't realize you were following the story so closely. Thanks for that. As Mike mentioned it would make for a good movie script but meanwhile it will be the subject for an interesting case study in business schools.

    I've been following it as there are 6 Market Baskets within a 15 minute drive of my house. It's where I shop and I've wasted so much time wandering around Shaw's trying to do the weekly grocery run.

    As a business case, it will be a great one. One doesn't often hear about employees walking off the job in support of a fired CEO. In the long run though, it will be interesting to see how T manages to deal with $1+ billion in debt while maintaining low prices and high pay.

    A contingency plan should the sale fall through was announced by the company. They would close 61 of the 71 stores in order to reduce costs. I presume at that point they would consider selling real estate and then the smaller chain.

    One business expert said that the tax liability on the sale is about $400 million tax liability. He felt that the sellers may be having second thoughts due to that.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349

    @jayrider said:
    Didn't Lincoln have a car with a similar profile in the 1980's ?

    1982 Continental " Bustle Back " The thief that ran a local gym I belonged to had one.

    Yes they did. Not as extreme as the Seville.

    http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Lincoln-Continental-fox.jpg

    Chrysler's:

    http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3278/3221/33194110001_original.jpg

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,399
    edited August 2014

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    1982 Continental " Bustle Back " The thief that ran a local gym I belonged to had one.

    Yes they did. Not as extreme as the Seville.

    http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Lincoln-Continental-fox.jpg

    A guy who lives down the street from me owns one of these, mint. I think he was having problems with the air suspension last year as it was sitting funny, but that seems fixed now. I never liked these, even worse-looking than the Seville.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Thanks for those, brought a smile to my face, those long forgotten models. The Lincoln is kind of nice, holds it's looks not too badly. The Imperial seems a little extreme, but, Chrysler takes more risks than most....some work (K Cars and mini vans) and some, hmmm, not so much (teardrop, some of those 1960 Dodges).

    Does this design make any sense?

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913

    @robr2 said:

    >

    A contingency plan should the sale fall through was announced by the company. They would close 61 of the 71 stores in order to reduce costs. I presume at that point they would consider selling real estate and then the smaller chain.

    One business expert said that the tax liability on the sale is about $400 million tax liability. He felt that the sellers may be having second thoughts due to that.

    In seems as though the buyout deal is going to through, perhaps by the end of the day.

    According to the Boston Globe, ...."If a deal is finally struck, Arthur S., his three sisters, and sister-in-law Rafaela Evans will get more than $1.5 billion for their ownership stake in Demoulas Super Markets Inc., the formal name of the business.

    Arthur T. will own the company where he has worked all his life."

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @bwia said:"If a deal is finally struck, Arthur S., his three sisters, and sister-in-law Rafaela Evans will get more than $1.5 billion

    What a rip off, that's like only about $300million each. :'(

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  • ray80ray80 Member Posts: 1,655

    @houdini1 said:

    I don't watch much entertainment TV but I really like Westerns. My wife always tapes "Longmire", and "Hell on Wheels" for me. Through Amazon Prime I am watching all the back episodes of "Deadwood". Good stuff.

    Seems our taste in television is almost as diverse as our taste in vehicles (nothing useful to add to any conversations today :) )

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349
    edited August 2014

    @driver100 said:
    does this design make any sense?

    No but the more extreme the style the more interesting it is 50 years later.

    BTW, I like that 82 Chrysler Imperial too. Someone in my area had a low mile one for sale on CL for over a year with no takers. It was a 'Frank Sinatra' edition and came with several unopened bottles of champagne. It had under 80k miles and he only wanted $2500 last time I saw it. Needed a paint job which basically made it worthless.

    Looked like this:

    http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/01/SIA-1982Imperial_lede.jpg

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    That is nice looking and the champaigne alone would be worth the $2500 bucks.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    My friend who bought the 2014 white Audi SR4 asked about clear plastic protection for the front of his car. The Acura dealer we go to to have it put on told him not to bother with it - which was nice of them. They said on a white car it will yellow a bit and it will be noticeable. Also, some stones will penetrate it and you have to get the car painted anyway.

    My Mercedes dealer wanted to put it on for $600. I called Acura and they will charge $300. But, I noticed a stone has penetrated the plastic and chipped the paint. This time I think I will do what the Acura dealer told my friend and not bother, if I get stone chips I'll just have it touched up.

    There is a website drbeasleys.com who says the best thing to do is to wax the front of the car frequently, that will protect it just as much and won't discolor the finish.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,158

    @driver100 said:

    Driver....I actually like both of those Chryslers. Good looking cars IMHO. Not sure how they stacked up in their generation of cars, but like the looks.

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  • @driver100 said:
    They said on a white car it will yellow a bit and it will be noticeable. Also, some stones will penetrate it and you have to get the car painted anyway.

    Research Xpel ultimate or Suntek films and you may be a bit surprised. They self heal from scratches, which I didn't believe until I saw it for myself, and they can take a punch. Plus they come in different widths, so if you want to cover an entire panel, you can. I've never had a modern film yellow on me, but have seen other brands do just that...cough3Mcough.

    MB has great paint, though, and you live in Canada, so film probably isn't as necessary. Here in Colorado we're home to boulders, and I'm not talking about the city, but rather what road crews drop on the road. Clear films equate to survival for paint around here. Even my Venture Shield film was pierced, so I'll be installing Suntek or Xpel Ultimate on the new Outback after correcting the paint and applying a paint coating.

  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855

    Just got my Consumer Reports today. (I know, many here don't like it). They proclaimed the new Mustang a hit, but also said it had a lower roofline and was a few inches wider. I was thinking about trading for a 2015 convertible, but that's out now as I only have 6 inches on each side going into the garage and am at max bending getting in/out as is. Thanks Ford for always thinking about the younger generation that can't afford a $40k car.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,878

    @mako1a, The 2015 Mustang is only 2 inches wider than the 2014. If you are considering a convertible, do what I do. Put the top down, install the tonneau cover, and only drive it when the weather is nice. :)

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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,878

    My Mustang is Oxford White and my Fusion is Deep Impact Blue. Not sure if black is the only convertible top color.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454

    @tyguy, camping along the Rincon/Arkansas tonight, and I could use some film for the rain clouds. Interesting drive seeing all the "real" SUVs crusing along.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @mako1a said:

    No more "Lime Green"?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @tyguy said:Research Xpel ultimate or Suntek films and you may be a bit surprised. They self heal from scratches,

    Thanks for the information Ty. I think I was lucky with the 535, the plastic film hasn't yellowed but you can see the line where it starts. I have never had film before and I am just going to take my chances.

    If I lived in the North country or in a rural area, or in Colorado I would consider it for sure. I don't get that much gravel.......but, I thought maybe the bugs would come off the plastic easier. I don't think so. I like the idea of just waxing the front end more often, I can even put a layer of wax on the plastic parts.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,399

    Those colors are sort of meh. Two grays? I like the orange but the yellow looks too saturated. I don't see any color that makes me want to select it.

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  • Bugs have stuck to my clear film, too, and I even had a little acid etching from them before my last paint correction work. There are so many great waxes and sealants today that it's hard to choose. First I was a Klasse guy, then I switched to Zaino, and both delivered fantastic results. More recently I finished off my Zaino supplies and moved to another product, a coating that is harder than clear coat. No more waxing. You wipe it on and it forms a permanent bond that only polishing can remove. I'm amazed at the advancements the manufacturers are making in ease of application, durability, and gloss. Good stuff.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349
    edited August 2014

    @mako1a said:

    Funny how I totally dismiss CR car ratings until they give a good review of I car I want. :p

    Put me down for a ruby red or triple yellow.

    BTW, we were discussing Mustang trim levels a while back. mako1a mentioned items I'd miss with the base GT.

    If I'm reading the Ford site correctly, all trim levels come with SYNC, rear camera and limited slip dif. That and the IRS explain the $1400 bump from the 14.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @tyguy said:There are so many great waxes and sealants today that it's hard to choose. First I was a Klasse guy, then I switched to Zaino, and both delivered fantastic results.

    I have been reading several articles about the plastic shield......most people aren't thrilled with it, a few like it. My current 535 is the only car I have used it on, but, I think I am going to go without it. Too many people getting swirls, cloudy affects, orange peel (which I suppose are little bumps), yellowing, and a line where the wax builds up.

    I am really surprised that the garage where the film is put on told my friend not to put it on. That was nice of them...although he gets a fair amount of other work done there.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349

    @tyguy said:
    Bugs have stuck to my clear film, too, and I even had a little acid etching from them before my last paint correction work. There are so many great waxes and sealants today that it's hard to choose. First I was a Klasse guy, then I switched to Zaino, and both delivered fantastic results. More recently I finished off my Zaino supplies and moved to another product, a coating that is harder than clear coat. No more waxing. You wipe it on and it forms a permanent bond that only polishing can remove. I'm amazed at the advancements the manufacturers are making in ease of application, durability, and gloss. Good stuff.

    Sounds like amazing stuff. What's it's name? Is it available in stores or do you have to join a cult like Zaino?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,786

    I'm a fan of orange. But I see no more Grabber Blue. Kind of glad for that. :)

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,158

    I used to be a Zaino fanatic. But, there stuff got to be a bit too expensive for car wax/sealer/polish, whatever they want to call it these days.

    Then, I went to Colinite. Again, good stuff, lasted a long time....finicky to use, though. Plus, it's not so easy to find.

    I now use Klasse. It's easy to find. Relatively easy to use. Shines my car nicely. It lasts a long time. It checks all my requirements. I honestly don't see much, if any difference, using Klasse 2-3 times/year vs using Zaino once a month (or more).

    That XPell stuff sounds interesting, though.

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  • No> @oldfarmer50 said:

    Sounds like amazing stuff. What's it's name? Is it available in stores or do you have to join a cult like Zaino?

    Ha,ha. No cult, but you do have to be quick. The manufacturer just moved it to a pro-only product and released a more consumer version with less durability. I immediately ordered a couple of tubes for my Outback and family's cars. The stuff is called Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0. One 20cc tube will cover two vehicles. The new stuff is called Gloss-Coat, but I can't recommend it since it's brand new, untested, and less durable than the product it replaces. If you can't find Opti-Guard 2.0 since supplies will be dwindling fast, then the next best product will probably be CarPro Cquartz.

    One thing about these new coatings: they lock in both imperfect paint and perfect paint. Before you apply the coating, make sure you're happy with the paint condition. Clay bar, Iron X, and blemish removal should be completed first. The last thing you'll do before applying the coating is to spray and wipe down the entire vehicle with a 15% isopropyl alcohol solution to remove all waxes, oils, and fillers so the coating can bond with the paint.

  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited August 2014

    @graphicguy said:

    >

    I used to be a Zaino fanatic. But, there stuff got to be a bit too expensive for car wax/sealer/polish, whatever they want to call it these days.

    Speaking of Zaino, I am looking for a fuel stabilizer. My SUV has arrived from Japan and since it will be garaged in St. Lucia for long periods of time (six months or more) I want to make sure the engine does Not seize up.

    Don't know if being in the tropics makes a difference but sometimes there are periods of high humidity which may have a negative impact on a parked vehicle. Also, would you guys recommend disconnecting the battery while the vehicle is in deep sleep?

    I can probably get someone to drive the vehicle every two weeks or so but I don't want that to be a Carte Blanche for driving my SUV into the ground. Wish me luck.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,786

    6 mos really isn't an issue as far as the engine or even gas is concerned. I've had cars sit for much longer with no ill effects. Is there an outlet you can use? A battery tender would be ideal.

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  • ray80ray80 Member Posts: 1,655

    @bwia said:
    I am looking for a fuel stabilizer. My SUV has arrived from Japan and since it will be garaged in St. Lucia for long periods of time (six months or more) I want to make sure the engine does seize up.

    Perhaps one of the Sta-bil products would work. Battery disconnect would be good also

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,399

    I use Sta-bil every winter in my Cutlass and it seems good. No issues.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349

    @bwia said:
    I can probably get someone to drive the vehicle every two weeks or so but I don't want that to be a Carte Blanche for driving my SUV into the ground. Wish me luck.

    My mechanic recommended the marine version of Stabil gas treatment but I just used the regular when I stored the Corvette and it worked fine.

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  • +1 on the marine version. I use Sta-BIL marine in my watercraft for storage about 7 months a year and have found no fuel issues.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,585

    As far as car care products, I'm a huge fan of Griot's Garage. EVERY single product I've ever used from them works as advertised. The wheel cleaners, polish, wax, clay bar, leather conditioning spray, orbital, spray on wax, & speed shine (5 minute detail) are fantastic products.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,316

    @nyccarguy said:
    As far as car care products, I'm a huge fan of Griot's Garage. EVERY single product I've ever used from them works as advertised. The wheel cleaners, polish, wax, clay bar, leather conditioning spray, orbital, spray on wax, & speed shine (5 minute detail) are fantastic products.

    Thanks for the endorsement - I've got their latest catalog here on my desk and I've been contemplating ordering a few things from it.

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  • Michaell, one other option to consider is Adam's. You happen to live very close to their facility and could drop in to their plant store front.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,399

    I find myself wondering if I am a fool for wanting a more expensive car, never having had one that was priced above $35K Cdn. I find myself daydreaming about a Mercedes E-class, maybe a coupe, maybe a sedan, and maybe even a 550. But I've never owned a car that expensive and I wonder about the issues:

    1. I won't be able to garage it. It will have to live outside in the driveway. Not good.
    2. I always look for the parking spot in lots that is closest to where I need to go. Will I now be that guy all by himself at the far end of the lot?
    3. Would having an obviously expensive vehicle attract vandalism from those so inclined?
    4. I know maintenance and any repairs out of warranty will be more expensive. Will that drive me nuts?
    5. Will I be afraid to drive it and have fun using it? Will the prospect of a stone chip be too much to bear?

    Any insights?

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349

    @mako1a said:
    Just got my Consumer Reports today. (I know, many here don't like it). They proclaimed the new Mustang a hit, but also said it had a lower roofline and was a few inches wider. I was thinking about trading for a 2015 convertible, but that's out now as I only have 6 inches on each side going into the garage and am at max bending getting in/out as is. Thanks Ford for always thinking about the younger generation that can't afford a $40k car.

    Which issue of CR? I just saw the September issue in the market and nothing about Mustangs? :(

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712

    This looks Great! The emblem in the middle of the grill is the
    same as my '67 Mustang had. The horizontal accents really
    make it look retro.

    http://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/ford/mustang/2015/ns/2015_ford_mustang_det_ns_82814_600.jpg

    The "older" new Mustangs don't show their age as much as
    other cars when the changes from year-to-year happen. I
    was at a Chick-Fil-A in West Chester today and a black GT
    from several years back was burbling it's way around and to the
    drive throughs. Really got my attention. Maybe I need to
    get a Mustang to bring back my youth...

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  • BWIA,

    Regarding your vehicle storage, here's how I store my watercraft during winter:
    1. Add fuel stabilizer and run the motor so the stabilizer mixes through the entire fuel system. That's typically my last ride for the year.
    2. Fog the motor with Sta-bil fogging oil. I spray some in the air intake with the filter removed while idling and just before shutting down the motor for the last time.
    3. Remove each spark plug and spray fogging oil into the chamber, then add a little anti-seize to the threads and re-torque each plug to factory specs.
    4. Spray some anti-corrosion film onto the metal motor components.
    5. Fill the trailer tires to near max inflation to prevent flat spots.
    6. Remove the battery and place it on a battery tender.
    7. Open up all the compartments to dry them out and prevent humidity building up anywhere.
    8. Store it in the garage.
    9. Lubricate the linkages.
    10. Seal the fiberglass and plastic. This year I'll be adding the paint coating instead.

    Perhaps there are a few things that could carry over to storing a car in a humid environment for half a year. Good luck!
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,349

    @ab348 said:
    I find myself wondering if I am a fool for wanting a more expensive car, never having had one that was priced above $35K Cdn. I find myself daydreaming about a Mercedes E-class, maybe a coupe, maybe a sedan, and maybe even a 550. But I've never owned a car that expensive and I wonder about the issues:

    1. I won't be able to garage it. It will have to live outside in the driveway. Not good.
    2. I always look for the parking spot in lots that is closest to where I need to go. Will I now be that guy all by himself at the far end of the lot?
    3. Would having an obviously expensive vehicle attract vandalism from those so inclined?
    4. I know maintenance and any repairs out of warranty will be more expensive. Will that drive me nuts?
    5. Will I be afraid to drive it and have fun using it? Will the prospect of a stone chip be too much to bear?

    Any insights?

    Yes to all those questions but go get it anyway. You can't fit much money inside a coffin.

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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855

    Dings, dents and parking in the south forty depend on where you live and your neighbors. When I lived in Virginia Beach, dings were common. Especially if you parked next to a van full of kids. Here in a small town after 10 years I have zero dings/dents to show for parking close in. Parents actually teach their children to respect property of others and stop them from pushing the door open fully with full force. Thank you Wytheville parents.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @ab348‌ said:

    "I find myself daydreaming about a Mercedes E-class, maybe a coupe, maybe a sedan, and maybe even a 550. But I've never owned a car that expensive and I wonder about the issues:"

    Every issue you brought up is something I have thought about time-and-time-again. It is a realistic approach to determining whether or not to buy an expensive luxury car.

    One option is to lease one - a 2014 leases very nicely right now due to incentives from Mercedes Benz - but I do not know how they are leasing in Canada. Right now, they are advertising an E350 sedan for $479 a month with $3500 down.

    With leasing, you have limited liability - scratches and dents merely have to be repaired prior to turning the car in.

    Also, there are maintenance plans for 1, 2, and 3 years and longer for much less than the actual costs without the plans. Also, there are extended warranty plans for up to 7 years through Mercedes Benz.

    But you still have to replace brake pads, wiper blades and the like.

    One thing that always bothers me are ping dents from other parked cars. I have a negligible ping on my right rear door at the body crease - only noticeable if looked at closely. But my dealer said it will not affect the trade value because it was so insignificant.

    I have not had problems with vandalism in all the years I've owned BMW's and Mercedes Benz vehicles. As far as parking in lots, I do park as far away from other cars as I can - but I have handicap tags - so I usually park in wider spaces due to the tags.

    I never worry about driving the car anywhere. If I owned a Rolls or a Bentley, I would have real problems driving many places and parking - but not with the E Class Mercedes.

    Eventually, after owning a luxury car, your inhibitions eventually dissipate as you drive the car.

    You only need regular maintenance on the Mercedes once a year - or every 10-12 thousand miles. There are 2 different services - the A service at 10-12 thousand miles and the B service at 20-24 thousand miles. All would be covered with a maintenance agreement which you might be able to negotiate with the purchase - throw a 3-year maintenance agreement in with the deal.

    I certainly don't lose sleep over owning and driving a Mercedes Benz, and you won't either.

    Whatever your decision, good luck!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,878

    I like Adams quick detailer and just bought some of their Super V(inly)R(ubber)T(ire). Too bad I recently bought a big jug of car wash. I saw some Simple Green car wash and would like to try that.
    When I put the Mustang away for the long winter, usually October to June, I wash it, change the oil, fill it with gas, put on the cover. That's it. Usually start and run it once during that period.

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,878

    In this link you can see some Mustangs going down the assembly line and get a good idea of some of the colors. Interesting that there are a mix of Mustangs and Fusions.

    finance.yahoo.com/video/ford-mustang-rolls-off-assembly-133113765.html

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,425

    @imidazol97 said:
    Really got my attention. Maybe I need to
    get a Mustang to bring back my youth...

    I drove a new 2013 GT with a six speed manual(mainly to get a $25 Visa card from Ford). My wife was terrified that I'd buy it all the spot. For some reason I was completely underwhelmed. A friend of mine at R&T opined that the only Mustang that could hold my interest would be a Boss 302, and I think that he is probably correct.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

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