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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203

    Watching Fast & Loud and they bought a 1984 Seville. They all trashed talked it during the show and just dumped it on the internet but I kind if like that quirky style. Their's was blue but looked like this:

    http://images.freerevs.com/gallery/56703513.jpg

    Sure it wasn't anything special, even in it's day but I like the weird look.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287

    The only TV drama or comedy show I watch is Blue Bloods. The rest is live sports, news, and the occasional documentary. Oh, and America's Test Kitchen when PBS doesn't pre-empt it for some fundraising every 3rd week.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2014
    @ab348 said:

    "The only TV drama or comedy show I watch is Blue Bloods. "

    I watch Blue Bloods, too. I really enjoy "Suits" on USA network and I have been following "Murd er In The First" and "Major Crimes" on TNT. But those shows don't seem to get nominated.

    I watch "Wheeler Dealers" and "Chasing Classic Cars" on the Velocity Channel all the time.

    Of course there's ESPN, Fox Sports, and I get a kick out of the simulcast of. "Imus In The Morning" on Fox Business Channel at 6:00 AM - 9:00 AM.

    But all these shows being nominated and winning Emmy's are almost all foreign to me.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited August 2014

    @abacomike said:
    I GUESS I HAVE NO TASTE OR SENSE OF HUMOR
    I don't watch any of those shows nor any of the networks. "The New Black Is Orange"? "Mom"? "Veep"? It's like I've been in a coma for 10 years and just woke up and this is all that's on TV.

    Good grief!

    Some of it it because they are on HBO. Mom is in CBS, I don't watch it, but saw trailers. But in general, cable productions, whether premium, or AMC/FX/USA/TNT took over Emmys some five years ago. There is hardly anything from networks. I don't have HBO, but I do watch more cable shows than networks overall lately. Whether it's drama, comedy, or even light entertainment, I prefer them over highly predictable and formulaec shows on networks that are made to not offend anyone. Last really good network drama that I cared about, was House.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @dino001‌ said:

    "Last really good network drama that I cared about, was House."

    Yes, I agree - I still watch the reruns. I do have HBO and have tried to get "into" Game of Thrones, but no dice. Cannot watch that show for some reason. Plot seems so thick and involved.

    TNT, USA, A&E, etc, get most of my attention including Pawn Stars on the History Channel.

    I just received an email from the series ICE PILOTS NWT. They just finished filming season 4 and is supposed to begin airing again this winter. I enjoy that series (reality) about a Canadian airline on the Northwest Territories that flies DC3's, DC4's, ELECTRAS, etcetera. Really great series about pilots, their planes and the trials and tribulations of flying in the NWT winters.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @explorerx4 said:
    We had a Tim Horton's in the next town over, here in central CT. It did pretty well, but I think there was an overall problem.

    One problem was getting goods to stores that were sparsely situated. Some did well, some not so well, but supplying the good stores was a problem.

    Slowly, we are getting some Tim's in Florida. Part of the problem I think is the name...Tim Horton was a pretty good hockey player who died when his Corvette went off the road when he was returning from a game in Buffalo. He always had little businesses on the side that never worked out. When he opened the first Tims right where I live people thought he was crazy. It took off and we have 1 Tim's for every 10,000 Canadians, probably the densest fast food chain in the world.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @stever said:
    I usually drink Starbuck's Italian roast and it's a bit milder than the French roast. Guess that's why I like Tims, with two on the side.

    I find with my Kuregs Italian Roast is quite strong. I haven't tried a French roast blend, but, I assumed French would have to be milder than my Italian roast sample. Maybe too much racial profiling. :'(

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @cdnpinhead said:
    The way I've heard it, the Burger King/Tim Horton's situation is being set up to take advantage of the more favourable Canadian tax rates for corporations; the new conglomerate will be headquartered in Canada.

    Tax law drives behaviour. Go figure.

    They have to hope a very liberal or even worse our socialist New Democratic Party never comes into power or they will have to move head office back to the US. The stockholders will love more profit through lower taxes. It is probably a great deal for both of them, not too much downside but lots of potential.

    Tims is more than coffee and donuts. Excellent sandwiches, wraps, soups, bagels, etc, and all at low prices, good quality. Not too bad as far as fast food goes.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited August 2014

    I used to prefer French roast but in a Peet's. Until recent years Starbucks just had burnt overtones to me. Then I had no choice in the UP other than mailorder and the Italian roast turned out to be quite good and I was finding the darker roasts too dark.

    Should qualify that by saying that I usually add a spoonful of chicory to every pot.

    Interesting that Tim Horton died in a car wreck. Wiki says it was a De Tomaso Pantera though. Wiki also says that he owned a Studebaker auto dealership in Toronto. Funny the car connections people have.

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    I contacted Edmunds to bring to their attention the errors they have incorporated into building the new E 400.

    The guy I spoke to took all my info down like standard leather, not optional; standard Lane Tracking Pkg, not optional; standard AMG wheels, not optional.

    About an hour later I got a call back from him telling me they had checked out my info and found it to be correct and that they were going to change the info on their site to match standard and optional equipment.

    They said they were most appreciative for bringing the errors to their attention.

    I was impressed with the speed at which they responded.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481

    Thanks for posting that. I was going to use that info while helping my friend buy his new Benz in the next two weeks. Right now he's agonizing between a new C400 sedan or E400 sedan or going with a '14 E350 coupe because he likes coupes. I'm trying not to interfere but I'm not keen on a coupe for him. Best thing with a friend is to mention it once and then let them go their own way on a purchase.

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331

    @abacomike said:
    ab348 said:

    "The only TV drama or comedy show I watch is Blue Bloods. "

    We watch the NCIS duo(soon to be trio), Person of Interest, The Mentalist, Suits, and usually whatever is on Masterpiece- although we also watch more that a few of the British mysteries on Amazon Prime and Netflix. And Doctor Who, of course. The good Doctor, Person of Interest, The Mentalist, and Suits are my "can't miss" shows...

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203

    @abacomike said:
    I GUESS I HAVE NO TASTE OR SENSE OF HUMOR

    I have been watching the Emmy's on TV and it would appear that the nominees and the winners of the first 8 or 9 Emmy awards are as foreign to me as an Alfa Romeo is to the car enthusiast.

    I don't watch any of those shows nor any of the networks. "The New Black Is Orange"? "Mom"? "Veep"? It's like I've been in a coma for 10 years and just woke up and this is all that's on TV.

    Good grief!

    My wife and I like to joke that any show we start to like will be immediately cancelled while the most boring shows will go on and on.

    Face it, we are the wrong demographic.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @stever said:
    Interesting that Tim Horton died in a car wreck. Wiki says it was a De Tomaso Pantera though. Wiki also says that he owned a Studebaker auto dealership in Toronto. Funny the car connections people have.

    All that sounds correct, it was a Pantera, I said Corvette as part of a GM conspiracy to blame them. B)

    Tim Horton was over 2X the legal limit for drinking. His partner Ron Joyce offered Tim's widow $1million for the business. Ron Joyce became a billionaire, he has a yacht worth $20 million which he is trying to sell. Bio said he dropped out of school in grade 9.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @Mr_Shiftright said:
    Thanks for posting that. I was going to use that info while helping my friend buy his new Benz in the next two weeks. Right now he's agonizing between a new C400 sedan or E400 sedan or going with a '14 E350 coupe because he likes coupes. I'm trying not to interfere but I'm not keen on a coupe for him. Best thing with a friend is to mention it once and then let them go their own way on a purchase.

    Difficult choices. He will have to try a C and an E to see which he really likes. I agree, he has to make the final choice and not much use trying to steer him towards one. I'd be interested in hearing what his thoughts are.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Face it, we are the wrong demographic.

    Exactly. People of a more mature age enjoy procedural dramas like Blue Bloods, CSI, et al. They always have and CBS is still the king of those. But most of you don't spend money like the 18-35 or even 35-55 demographics. Those demos like edgy dramas and comedies hence the success of shows like Orange Is The New Black, House of Cards, Breaking Bad, Veep, Modern Family, Game of Thrones.

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @robr2 said:

    "Exactly. People of a more mature age enjoy procedural dramas like Blue Bloods, CSI, et al."

    I still get a kick out of the re-runs of Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, Seinfeld, CSI, House, Law And Order, etc. I guess I'm just "over the hill" so to speak.

    At least they still air Blue Bloods, Suits, Muder In The First, Pawn Stars, etc.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287
    edited August 2014

    @driver100 said:
    Tim Horton was a pretty good hockey player who died when his Corvette went off the road when he was returning from a game in Buffalo.

    Actually, it was a Pantera, and he was driving from Toronto to Buffalo. He was drunk, with the autopsy report indicating his BAC was twice the legal limit.

    Ron Joyce is a bit of a local legend around here as he took his fortune when he sold the Hortons chain to Wendys and built an exclusive golf resort up on the Northumberland shore. I have only driven past it but apparently many celebrities and potentates have been there. He is/was a bit of a rough character apparently - some say he is not a nice guy - but shines up OK. He is in his early 80s now and I hear he has had some health issues that are slowing him down.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @abacomike said:
    robr2 said:

    "Exactly. People of a more mature age enjoy procedural dramas like Blue Bloods, CSI, et al."

    I still get a kick out of the re-runs of Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, Seinfeld, CSI, House, Law And Order, etc. I guess I'm just "over the hill" so to speak.

    In the eyes of advertisers, you are. You don't spend money on most consumer goods. When most of those shows were popular 20-25 years ago, you were a prime spender.

    @abacomike said:
    At least they still air Blue Bloods, Suits, Muder In The First, Pawn Stars, etc.

    I've given up on shows like Pawn Stars, Ice Road Truckers, Deadliest Catch - it's the same thing over and over. Pawn Stars - "I've got a buddy". Ice Road Truckers - the same graphic of a truck falling through the ice. Show me an actual fall and I'll watch again. Deadliest Catch - good haul, bad haul, swearing and family strife. Yawn to all of them.

    I've been catching up on Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Game of Thrones. All dramas but not wrapped up neatly in 60 minutes.

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676

    In the eyes of advertisers, you are. You don't spend money on most consumer goods. When most of those shows were popular 20-25 years ago, you were a prime spender.

    It's easy to tell shows for the older demographics by the Depends and Hurrycane ads along with the fake Medicare fraud devices that they call belts that will fix all your aching joints without surgery.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287

    @robr2 said:
    I've given up on shows like Pawn Stars, Ice Road Truckers, Deadliest Catch - it's the same thing over and over. Pawn Stars - "I've got a buddy". Ice Road Truckers - the same graphic of a truck falling through the ice. Show me an actual fall and I'll watch again. Deadliest Catch - good haul, bad haul, swearing and family strife. Yawn to all of them.

    Yes, I agree. They are all scripted and try to make them look like they are not. All seem to rely on the same fake drama and stretching a given situation out to fill the hour by repeating segments over and over. I got tired of them quite quickly, and find a lot of the characters unlikeable and tiresome.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited August 2014

    @ab348 said:
    Yes, I agree. They are all scripted and try to make them look like they are not. All seem to rely on the same fake drama and stretching a given situation out to fill the hour by repeating segments over and over. I got tired of them quite quickly, and find a lot of the characters unlikeable and tiresome.

    Amen to that. But some people watch certain of these religiously. I think it's the antagonist attraction that makes some people want to watch just to see what happens with the characters that they don't like.

    I occasionally watch Flipping Out just to see how outrageous they get with the guy and his remodeling houses for the rich and famous, supposedly.

    Another show I liked to observe was Big World, Little People. Of course with the divorce (real life divorce) they're not filming right now.

    But my favorite even now, originals and reruns, are the Golden Girls. Talk about actresses with a superb sense of timing for the comedy lines! I have all but one year on DVD copies. They are the best since Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. I had the pleasure of seeing Vivian Vance in summer theater in the round outdoors in Indianapolis back in, oh maybe 1966.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454

    @imidazol97 said:
    It's easy to tell shows for the older demographics by the Depends and Hurrycane ads along with the fake Medicare fraud devices that they call belts that will fix all your aching joints without surgery.

    Ever flip through the ads in the back of most car mags? All that and more (mostly ED stuff). Sheesh. This condo we're renting for the next three months has a TV and I'm wondering if I'll get hooked after not watching for 13 years. Do like the BritComs.

    Sounds like one of Ron Joyce's sons married one of Tim's daughters, so at least that generation reconcilled a bit.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287

    Tim Hortons is a very rough and tumble place from what I can tell. This was an interesting read:

    http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/dark-rich-and-bitter/

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @ab348 said:
    Tim Hortons is a very rough and tumble place from what I can tell. This was an interesting read:

    http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/dark-rich-and-bitter/

    It's a huge business - very few large companies are like the endings to fairy tales.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203

    @stever said:
    Ever flip through the ads in the back of most car mags? All that and more (mostly ED stuff). Sheesh

    Well, what are you going to do when the girls actually get in your hot car? B)

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Watching Fast & Loud and they bought a 1984 Seville. They all trashed talked it during the show and just dumped it on the internet but I kind if like that quirky style. Their's was blue but looked like this:

    http://images.freerevs.com/gallery/56703513.jpg

    Sure it wasn't anything special, even in it's day but I like the weird look.

    I watched that episode too.

    When those Sevilles first came out, a friend said that from the rear, they looked like a garbage truck and they do!

    They came with that miserable HT 4100 engine that was pure junk! that lousy engine cost Cadillac a lot of loyal customers.

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    Great - now a number of firms of working on class action suits against GM saying that by delaying the recent recalls that shareholder value had been reduced.

    Bunch of ambulance chasers. Yes if one were to have purchased GM stock in the past year or so, some equity has been lost but if the recalls started 3 years ago, the same equity would have been lost.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,338

    TV - there are a couple of good, character driven shows that the wife and I have been watching this summer:

    Tyrant (FX - season 1) - about a US Citizen and his family who return to his native (fictional) middle eastern country for a wedding then get caught up in the politics (think Arab Spring). The title is quite interesting because you don't really know who the tyrant is.

    Rectify (Sundance - season 2) - a story about a man who was on death row for 19 years and then has his sentence vacated due to DNA evidence; he returns home and the impact that has on his family and community. Lots of subplots and back story about the real killer and the relationships of all the main characters to one another. Well written, superbly acted.

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913

    @ab348 said:

    >

    Tim Hortons is a very rough and tumble place from what I can tell. This was an interesting read:

    http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/dark-rich-and-bitter/

    Sounds like a similar feud going on between two billionaire cousins at Market Basket. Don't know much about the company but the CEO was fired and in solidarity the employees and customers went on strike and will not return until their beloved CEO is rehired or is allowed to buy out the other family members.

    The story is gaining national attention as two governors got involved to help resolve the feud between the fighting cousins but without success.

    Perhaps Rob2, a Market Basket customer, can shed more light on the subject.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287
    edited August 2014

    @robr2 said:
    Great - now a number of firms of working on class action suits against GM saying that by delaying the recent recalls that shareholder value had been reduced.

    Bunch of ambulance chasers. Yes if one were to have purchased GM stock in the past year or so, some equity has been lost but if the recalls started 3 years ago, the same equity would have been lost.

    Wouldn't their bringing the lawsuits also reduce shareholder value? If I am a GM stockholder, couldn't I bring suit against these plaintiffs for the same thing?

    In the end, the only people that make anything on these kind of actions are the lawyers.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @ab348 said:

    "In the end, the only people that make anything on these kind of actions are the lawyers"

    In the end, no matter what kinds of actions are initiated, the layers always make money. In one class action lawsuit a few years back, a legal firm was awarded 32 milllion dollars for successfully representing thousands of plaintiffs. And that's just a drop in the bucket considering the tobacco industry lawsuits and the asbestos lawsuits.

    I've met a few doctors who were more middle class - agency doctors not in private practice, but I've never met a poor or middle class lawyer. They all do quite well, no matter what their specialty.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @bwia said:
    Sounds like a similar feud going on between two billionaire cousins at Market Basket. Don't know much about the company but the CEO was fired and in solidarity the employees and customers went on strike and will not return until their beloved CEO is rehired or is allowed to buy out the other family members.

    First Market Basket is a family owned grocery store in Massachusetts, NH and southern Maine. Their prices are about 10-20% below the competition. They don't do double coupons. They didn't have a website until recently. They don't have loyalty cards. They don't have any debt and they have been expanding/remodeling stores recently. They did about $4.5 billion in sales last year and have a net margin of between 8% and 10%. A typical grocery chain is somewhere in the 1% to 2% range. The stores are mobbed and the deli line is at least 20 minutes - no matter the store or time of day.

    Two cousins, Arthur T and Arthur S Demoulas, each head a side of the family.

    T has been the CEO for a number of years and is beloved by the vast majority of the employees. Pay is good (cashiers can make $40K/year), health insurance is 100% paid, pension plan (yep a pension plan) is fully company funded, everyone (even part time clerks) get quarterly bonuses and the executives under T all started as baggers or stockers. Some employees have been there 50 years and many retire with 7 figure pensions.

    T's side of the family holds 49.5% of the stock. S's side holds 50.5%. But the widow and daughter of S's late brother threw their support behind T because the widow was mad at S for something he said about the daughter's acting career years ago. Keep in mind, this is a Greek family :)

    In 2013, the angered widow switched loyalties to S to give him control of a majority. With that majority, he could get the board to distribute a special dividend to the family. T was opposed because retained earnings is what he uses to grow the company. Shortly thereafter, the board of directors approved a $350 million dollar dividend to be divided among 9 the 9 shareholders on top of the $100 million in dividends it usually pays annually. In retaliation, T instituted an extra 4% discount at the chain for all of 2014 which pissed off S.

    In June of 2014, the board fired T and two other executives. When that happened, the 25,000 Market Basket employees started to walk off the job and picket - first at headquarters and the distribution centers and then at the stores. The stores were still open and selling whatever they had but most employees spent their time putting up protest signs in the store, asking for signatures on petitions and picketing out front - some while on the clock.

    In the past few weeks many employees have given up pay, the part time staff has been let go, the full time staff has been notified multiple times to report back to work and if they don't MB will consider them to have abandoned their jobs (precluding them from collecting unemployment), competing chains can't keep up with the demand with some bringing staff in from western MA, CT, ME, NY, some vendors have started to publicly call out the new management and S is looking to sell the company - which IMHO was his ultimate goal. T has made a bid of $1.5 billion for the S family 50.5% and supposedly it's been accepted but that was Saturday and not a peep from anyone.

    Why do these two hate each so much? When their fathers (T=Mike and S=George) bought the single family grocery store from their parents, they vowed to take care of each other's families should anything happen. Well George died in 1971 and over the years, Mike managed to siphon off almost 90% of George's share. S sued his uncle in 1990 and the judge sided with him giving his side of the family 50.5% and a $205 million payback from Uncle Mike. At the time, T was active in the business and was found to have known what was going on. Further, T owns much of the real estate that MB pays rent to, he is accused of selling property to the company at inflated prices and two of his brothers-in-law head up the development company MB uses to build the stores.

    What it comes down to is:

    T and S hate each other and have for years
    T is the only family member involved in the business and he has a bit of a "see what I do" attitude
    S and rest of his family want out as they can't sell their stock to anyone else and they see T spending "their" money on new stores and employee pay and benefits
    The employees are afraid if S sells the company to anyone but T, their pay and benefits will be reduced
    The customers are stuck in the middle and although many claim to be boycotting, I think they would come right back to MB even if T wasn't in charge as long as the prices stayed close to where they are now.

    Sorry for the long story. I love business dramas.

  • Do you hate or love a particular car brand? Interesting survey summary here:

    http://marketwatch.com/story/the-most-hated-car-company-in-america-is-2014-08-26?siteid=yhoof2

    I happen to own a brand near the top and a brand near the bottom, Subaru and Dodge, respectively, and I have to agree with the results. In another 6 weeks I should be able to state I own two Subarus, and a few weeks after that, no Dodges.

    Acura's last-place result surprised me. I have a feeling Cadillac is dropping as they distance themselves from their past customer base and focus more on performance-oriented vehicles. One thing to keep in mind is the scale of the results. There seems to be little spread in the results with 77/100 for the worst and 86/100 for the best.

  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242

    TV suggestion, for you old farts like me:
    We think "Vikings" on the History Channel is excellent. It's one you have to watch from episode 1 to really follow, and there are now 2 seasons (with the third scheduled to start in January).

    Network TV - we still like "The Blacklist," but then again, I think James Spader is pretty good in whatever he's in. Mostly the same type of character - very smug - but really good.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,338

    @Kirstie_H said:
    TV suggestion, for you old farts like me:
    We think "Vikings" on the History Channel is excellent. It's one you have to watch from episode 1 to really follow, and there are now 2 seasons (with the third scheduled to start in January).

    The wife and daughter watch "Vikings" - and a whole bunch of other stuff.

    Network TV - we still like "The Blacklist," but then again, I think James Spader is pretty good in whatever he's in. Mostly the same type of character - very smug - but really good.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676

    @tyguy said:

    I happen to own a brand near the top and a brand near the bottom, Subaru and Dodge, respectively, and I have to agree with the results. In another 6 weeks I should be able to state I own two Subarus, and a few weeks after that, no Dodges.

    Well, I own the two brands mentioned as having improved the most, Buick and Chevrolet.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    edited August 2014

    Good article Ty.

    Well, my friend with the Maserati, who traded in his Fiat for a Genesis has traded in the Genesis after 6 months...I think he is beating Mike's record...3 cars within a year.

    I met him for coffee today and he says "ah, I got tired of the Genesis so I traded it in" . I say what did you get......he says a 2014 Audi SR...white with black interior and the black in the Audi looks sensational, with the aluminum accents. He said the Genesis was competent, but just not fun. He said the Audi carries 4, it has lots of power, is as close to feeling like a sports car like his Maserati as possible.

    He got a deal on the Genesis at $35K. But, the salesman said it was a 2013, and it was, but the 2015s came out in June, so it really became 2 years old quickly. The first dealer offered him $20K as a trade-in for an SR. He went to another dealer and got $25K. He got about $4K off on the Audi so it was $60 Cdn (about $52K in the US), so he did great. The Audi has everything on it and it is beautiful. I would have done that myself...the Audi will be a great car for him. My wife wants us to have a larger car for the Florida trip, but my friend has an MB SUV for longer trips.

    There's that rule again: Buy right the first time, it is false economy to try to save money and not get exactly what you want.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @robr2‌ said:

    "Sorry for the long story. I love business dramas."

    How interesting! Art often imitates life brings to mind a suggestion - why not take this story - write a book and get the movie rights to it - had to be a best seller as well as a situation comedy on TV. You could make millions!

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @abacomike said:

    How interesting! Art often imitates life brings to mind a suggestion - why not take this story - write a book and get the movie rights to it - had to be a best seller as well as a situation comedy on TV. You could make millions!

    Never - S would sue me in a heartbeat and T would find a way to siphon off the money.

    One funny part of the saga. The company owns a country club. Two days after the firing of T, two board directors went to the club with an off-duty cop and a locksmith to fire the entire staff and change the locks. The staff were loyal to T. There was a standoff for five hours.

    The two new co-CEO's had to come over and diffuse the situation. The country club director and employees were told nothing was changing and their jobs were safe. The country club wasn't part of the fight. S just wanted to piss off T by locking him out of the club.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203

    @isellhondas said:
    ....lousy HT 4100 engine...

    Never heard anything particularly bad about that motor except it was a real wimp (135hp?) Caddy had enough bad motors in the 80s, diesel, 8-6-4 etc. to annoy almost everyone.

    My son's Deville has the much better 4.9L which IMO was the best of the old technology motors they produced.

    Anyway, you said the 84 Seville looked like a garbage truck and it suddenly hit me, that's exactly what it looks like.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @robr2‌ said:

    "One funny part of the saga. The company owns a country club. Two days after the firing of T, two board directors went to the club with an off-duty cop and a locksmith to fire the entire staff and change the locks. The staff were loyal to T. There was a standoff for five hours."

    And you think "Dallas" is (was) an exciting family drama? No way - not compared to this saga about the two wings of the family.

    I'm telling you - this is true "fodder" for a screenwriter - I am not kidding. I'd watch a show like this and not miss an episode. I can visualize the stand off at the country club winning an Emmy instead of the crapola that was honored last night at the Emmy's.

    Rob, I'm telling you - you have the makings of an award-winning TV series here!

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    edited August 2014

    @robr2 said:
    I've been catching up on Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Game of Thrones. All dramas but not wrapped up neatly in 60 minutes.

    robr2...same taste as us. Wife is having True Blood withdrawal since they just finished up that series, right on top of Mad Men.

    WE both like Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire. I like Ray Donovan, which she says is too testosterone fueled. I claim that Mad Men was too estrogen fueled. So, there's the compromise.

    Boradwalk is in its last season, too.

    We just started binge watching Masters of Sex (about Masters and Johnson trying to get their taboo research published). It's a little too "Psycho analytical" and "Freudish" for me. But, I do find the business part of getting $$$$$$$$$ for hospital research to be intriguing.

    Good luck finding any quality programming on CBS, ABC, or NBC these days (sports excepted).

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,338

    @graphicguy said:
    Good luck finding any quality programming on CBS, ABC, or NBC these days (sports excepted).

    About the only thing we watch on network TV is reality shows (Survivor, Big Brother, Bachelor / Bachelorette)

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  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    edited August 2014

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    Didn't Lincoln have a car with a similar profile in the 1980's ?

    1982 Continental " Bustle Back " The thief that ran a local gym I belonged to had one.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    @isellhondas said: ....lousy HT 4100 engine...

    Never heard anything particularly bad about that motor except it was a real wimp (135hp?) Caddy had enough bad motors in the 80s, diesel, 8-6-4 etc. to annoy almost everyone.

    No, the 4100 was a terrible engine. Lots of issues with it that they slowly improved as it morphed into the 4900. Then they dropped it for the Northstar, which had its own share of issues.

    Sad that GM seemingly forgot how to engineer and design good engines in the 80s and early 90s, when in the past the Buick, Olds and Cadillac engines were often the best around.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    The 4.1 Cadillac engines weren't any good and I believe it wasn't until 1988 that the MUCH better 4.5's replaced them.

    The early Northstars were a disaster too for several different reasons.

    A lot of hard core, loyal Cadillac buyers got burned and bought elsewhere.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited August 2014

    @tyguy, I don't miss my '97 Outback I sold a few months back. Can't say I love the '09 Grand Caravan we got around the same time, but I'd take another Dodge over another Subaru (although I like my sister's '05 Forester fine, and liked the '14 one I test drove - just aren't quite "right" to me, and I'm still not convinced about the boxer engine).

    Interesting link, be fun to see the rest of the brands, although as the story mentions, they all do better than lots of other companies (like your local cable guy).

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351

    @graphicguy said:
    Good luck finding any quality programming on CBS, ABC, or NBC these days (sports excepted).

    I don't watch much entertainment TV but I really like Westerns. My wife always tapes "Longmire", and "Hell on Wheels" for me. Through Amazon Prime I am watching all the back episodes of "Deadwood". Good stuff.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @abacomike said:
    robr2‌ said:

    "Sorry for the long story. I love business dramas."

    I do too. One day I want to write a book about how my SIL with an MBA ruined a company doing over $3million a year in sales, within 5 years. We ended up with about 90% of what was owed...mainly because I had to close every loop hole I could and watch him like a hawk for 5 years...it was exhausting.

    Then I saw a Dr Phil talking about a woman and daughter who went into a business together which just caused huge family problems. Dr Phil said, a family business or loan has 14X the chance of falling apart...I wish I had watched that program before OR my lawyer should have said don't do it....although he probably knew this would happen and he made a lot more because of it.

    I would like to write my book one day too. It will be called "How to Run a Business into the Ground, and Why Shouldn't Sell Your Business to a Relative".

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